Re: hey guys need ur help

[Guest guest]

Ask for Armour. You have to study www.stopthethyroidmadness.com to know

about Armour and dosing. You will start off slow and work your way up so be

ready to get better, but slowly. You may also be experiencing adrenal

fatigue (which you can also read about on STTM). You'll need a saliva test

for that (blood isn't reliable). AFAIK there is no virus that causes hypo.

Hashimoto is autoimmune which explains your hot/cold cycles. With hashi's,

your body attacks your thyroid and eventually destroys it. I believe a

renewed mind will help your thyroid. Keep us updated

CW

-- hey guys need ur help

Hi i'm new to the list and new to the thyroid thing. I had a bunch of

testing done and haven't gotten it back yet. All i know is 1st round

of testing showed low thyroid and hyshimoto was normal. He wanted to

put me on synthroid (75) after my testing was done. I started it last

week so i've been on it for about a week. I think my symptoms have

gotten worse... I feel like my neck is swollen, glands are swollen,

face is swollen, tongue is swollen, dusty dry eyes, I haven't slept

(total insomnia) ALL WEEK, used 2b hot all the time now i'm cold all

the time, crying all the time particularly after taking the med, and

my ovaries and bones hurt. I called the doc today to tell him about

it and wanted to know what my test results showed. He told me he'd

only talk to me in the office (which is 3 weeks from now) and continue

the med, and the thyroid ultrasound showed a goiter. I told the nurse

that called me back he can stick his synthroid up his you know what

I'm not taking it for 3 weeks and going through more of this. I

almost passed out at the store tonight. I didn't think i was being

unreasonable by asking for a different thyroid med?? Do you?? I'm

gonna call next week and b more of a PITA ... any ideas which thyroid

med I should ask for?? I also have lyme with a weak liver and don't do

real well with pharmasuticals. I'm real sensitive. I have a rife

machine and have been using some numbers. Any ideas what the name of

the virus is that causes the hypo??? is it that surpa? If I know what

it is i know how to kill it.

Thanks in advance.

Carol

[Guest guest]

Carol,

You wrote:

> He wanted to

> put me on synthroid (75) after my testing was done. I started it last

> week so i've been on it for about a week. I think my symptoms have

> gotten worse...

That is a common reaction during titration called an oscillation. Basically you

don't have a large enough dose yet to stop your symptoms, and it takes several

weeks for the levels to build in your system. I do think you have enough

symptoms to request an early test for the next step in the titration, if you can

get the doctor to let you in. Your heart needs to be in good shape to do that,

otherwise he would not have started you at 75 mcg.

The T4 in your medication will not affect your liver.

> ... Any ideas what the name of

> the virus is that causes the hypo???

HypoT is not caused by a virus.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

So if I have a goiter which affects my thyroid,and the family or

organizms that cause the goiter is called a struma, then what is a

struma if it's not a virus?? Is it a bacteria?? Or a parasite?? What

exactly is it?? Anyone know??

Carol

Struma (family of organisms that can infect the thyroid causing

goiter. Use

kelp internally. Use Struma cystica, nodosa, and parenchyme

freqs.)

Struma cystica - 5311, 531, 756, 361

Struma nodosa - 105, 122, 321, 517, 532, 651, 714

Struma parenchyme - 121, 576

>>... Any ideas what the name of

>>the virus is that causes the hypo???

>>

>>

>

>HypoT is not caused by a virus.

>

>Chuck

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I've wondered why anyone who has no problem converting T4 to T3 would

need Armour; especially since only a small percentage have this

problem. What's the reason?

Thanks,

> Posted by: " Crystal " sweetnwright@...

>

<mailto:sweetnwright@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20hey%20guys%20need%20ur%20help>

> sweetenloe1 <sweetenloe1>

>

>

> Wed Sep 3, 2008 10:45 am (PDT)

>

> Ask for Armour. You have to study www.stopthethyroidm

> adness.com to know

> about Armour and dosing. You will start off slow and work your way up

> so be

> ready to get better, but slowly. You may also be experiencing adrenal

> fatigue (which you can also read about on STTM). You'll need a saliva test

> for that (blood isn't reliable). AFAIK there is no virus that causes

> hypo.

> Hashimoto is autoimmune which explains your hot/cold cycles. With hashi's,

> your body attacks your thyroid and eventually destroys it. I believe a

> renewed mind will help your thyroid. Keep us updated

> CW

[Guest guest]

Carol,

You wrote:

>

> So if I have a goiter which affects my thyroid,and the family or

> organizms that cause the goiter is called a struma, then what is a

> struma if it's not a virus?? Is it a bacteria?? Or a parasite??

Struma is a neoplasm, another name for goiter. No bacteria or virus is

involved.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Thanks Chuck. There are so many fun things that can live in our body

aren't there??

Carol

> >

> > So if I have a goiter which affects my thyroid,and the family or

> > organizms that cause the goiter is called a struma, then what is a

> > struma if it's not a virus?? Is it a bacteria?? Or a parasite??

>

> Struma is a neoplasm, another name for goiter. No bacteria or virus is

> involved.

>

> Chuck

>

[Guest guest]

can you post your FT3?

Gracia

I've wondered why anyone who has no problem converting T4 to T3 would

need Armour; especially since only a small percentage have this

problem. What's the reason?

Thanks,

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LOL how many of us have wanted to tell a doc to shove his_____ up his ____.

do the rife machine and also try Iodoral

http://www.drbrownstein.com

http://www.optimox.com

Gracia

Hi i'm new to the list and new to the thyroid thing. I had a bunch of

testing done and haven't gotten it back yet. All i know is 1st round

of testing showed low thyroid and hyshimoto was normal. He wanted to

put me on synthroid (75) after my testing was done. I started it last

week so i've been on it for about a week. I think my symptoms have

gotten worse... I feel like my neck is swollen, glands are swollen,

face is swollen, tongue is swollen, dusty dry eyes, I haven't slept

(total insomnia) ALL WEEK, used 2b hot all the time now i'm cold all

the time, crying all the time particularly after taking the med, and

my ovaries and bones hurt. I called the doc today to tell him about

it and wanted to know what my test results showed. He told me he'd

only talk to me in the office (which is 3 weeks from now) and continue

the med, and the thyroid ultrasound showed a goiter. I told the nurse

that called me back he can stick his synthroid up his you know what

I'm not taking it for 3 weeks and going through more of this. I

almost passed out at the store tonight. I didn't think i was being

unreasonable by asking for a different thyroid med?? Do you?? I'm

gonna call next week and b more of a PITA ... any ideas which thyroid

med I should ask for?? I also have lyme with a weak liver and don't do

real well with pharmasuticals. I'm real sensitive. I have a rife

machine and have been using some numbers. Any ideas what the name of

the virus is that causes the hypo??? is it that surpa? If I know what

it is i know how to kill it.

Thanks in advance.

Carol

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Hi Carol,

You don't happen to be in New Zealand do you? Your list of reactions sounds like

what a lot of people over there are experiencing from a new synthetic version of

T4 which is produced by some sort of genetic modification. The drug company says

there's no problem with it - it works fine in their laboratory - all the people

getting sicker, losing their jobs and having accidents are apparently not

relevant...

Gail.

PS Thanks for the information on Iodine Gracia - it's making a difference to me

- but not at the doses you seem to be able to use.

hypothyroidism@...: circe@...: Mon, 8 Sep 2008

00:08:46 -0400Subject: Re: hey guys need ur help

LOL how many of us have wanted to tell a doc to shove his_____ up his ____.do

the rife machine and also try Iodoralhttp://www.drbrownstein.com

http://www.optimox.com GraciaHi i'm new to the list and new to the thyroid

thing. I had a bunch oftesting done and haven't gotten it back yet. All i know

is 1st roundof testing showed low thyroid and hyshimoto was normal. He wanted

toput me on synthroid (75) after my testing was done. I started it lastweek so

i've been on it for about a week. I think my symptoms havegotten worse... I feel

like my neck is swollen, glands are swollen,face is swollen, tongue is swollen,

dusty dry eyes, I haven't slept(total insomnia) ALL WEEK, used 2b hot all the

time now i'm cold allthe time, crying all the time particularly after taking the

med, andmy ovaries and bones hurt. I called the doc today to tell him aboutit

and wanted to know what my test results showed. He told me he'donly talk to me

in the office (which is 3 weeks from now) and continuethe med, and the thyroid

ultrasound showed a goiter. I told the nursethat called me back he can stick his

synthroid up his you know whatI'm not taking it for 3 weeks and going through

more of this. Ialmost passed out at the store tonight. I didn't think i was

beingunreasonable by asking for a different thyroid med?? Do you?? I'mgonna call

next week and b more of a PITA ... any ideas which thyroidmed I should ask for??

I also have lyme with a weak liver and don't doreal well with pharmasuticals.

I'm real sensitive. I have a rifemachine and have been using some numbers. Any

ideas what the name ofthe virus is that causes the hypo??? is it that surpa? If

I know whatit is i know how to kill it.Thanks in

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I thought you don't believe in labs?

-- Re: Re: hey guys need ur help

can you post your FT3?

Gracia

I've wondered why anyone who has no problem converting T4 to T3 would

need Armour; especially since only a small percentage have this

problem. What's the reason?

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Good Morning, ~

Besides the additional benefit of Armour's additional ingredients of T3, T2,

T1, and calcitonin, many people simply prefer a non-synthetic product.

No different than choosing a vitamin supplement made from organic, raw

processed vegetables vs. synthetic vitamins.

Organic butter vs. margarine.

Whole grain sprouted bread vs. Wonder Bread.

Grass-fed beef vs. a Big Mac.

Non-GMO foods vs. GMO.

Dessicated thyroid vs. synthetic thyroid.

Which do you think your body would prefer?

take care,

~

I've wondered why anyone who has no problem converting T4 to T3 would need

Armour; especially since only a small percentage have this problem. What's

the reason?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

it's also a myth that most peeps do fine on T4 alone. you have to know what

to look for however.

Gracia

Good Morning, ~

Besides the additional benefit of Armour's additional ingredients of T3, T2,

T1, and calcitonin, many people simply prefer a non-synthetic product.

No different than choosing a vitamin supplement made from organic, raw

processed vegetables vs. synthetic vitamins.

Organic butter vs. margarine.

Whole grain sprouted bread vs. Wonder Bread.

Grass-fed beef vs. a Big Mac.

Non-GMO foods vs. GMO.

Dessicated thyroid vs. synthetic thyroid.

Which do you think your body would prefer?

take care,

~

I've wondered why anyone who has no problem converting T4 to T3 would need

Armour; especially since only a small percentage have this problem. What's

the reason?

Thanks,

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no I don't " believe in " labs except as an initial/early evaluation tool, but

FT3 andFT4 have more relevance than TSH. I just wondered what his FT3 level

was considering he is on T4 med and thinks that is all he needs.

Gracia

I thought you don't believe in labs?

-- Re: Re: hey guys need ur help

can you post your FT3?

Gracia

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need Armour; especially since only a small percentage have this

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,

That is a solid case for ³natural² but you have to admit natural does NOT

always mean healthy.

I am a HUGE advocate of organic, non GMO foods but not all natural = the

best:

Poison ivy vs silk flowers to have in your house

Stepping on a sting ray in the ocean vs a plastic bottle

A dog bite from a rabid dog vs a paper cut

Pig thryoid vs Bioidentical hormone ‹ not just a personal choice. People

react badly to pig thryoid hormone. I know I do.

There¹s so many natural things our bodies do not accept, like or react well

to.

That awareness alone is worth the existence of any of these boards.

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On 9/8/08 7:06 AM, " liebs8181 " <liebs8181@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> Good Morning, ~

>

> Besides the additional benefit of Armour's additional ingredients of T3, T2,

> T1, and calcitonin, many people simply prefer a non-synthetic product.

>

> No different than choosing a vitamin supplement made from organic, raw

> processed vegetables vs. synthetic vitamins.

> Organic butter vs. margarine.

> Whole grain sprouted bread vs. Wonder Bread.

> Grass-fed beef vs. a Big Mac.

> Non-GMO foods vs. GMO.

>

> Dessicated thyroid vs. synthetic thyroid.

>

> Which do you think your body would prefer?

>

> take care,

> ~

[Guest guest]

If the so called peeps feel absolutely fine (your advice is to treat by

symptoms) then how can it be a " myth " that they are doing fine on T4 alone?

This is such contradictory posting.??? BTW Chuck tells us that Synthroid

is also 'natural'..... though it would be impossible for me to repeat it in

an intelligible form!!!

DS

Re: Re: hey guys need ur help

it's also a myth that most peeps do fine on T4 alone. you have to know

what to look for however.

Gracia

snip snip snip snip

[Guest guest]

I don't know if I even have it. Since I'm symptom free I don't know if

it's even been ordered...

..

..

>

> Posted by: " Gracia " circe@...

>

<mailto:circe@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20hey%20guys%20need%20ur%20help>

> graciabee <graciabee>

>

>

> Sun Sep 7, 2008 8:01 pm (PDT)

>

>

> can you post your FT3?

> Gracia

>

> I've wondered why anyone who has no problem converting T4 to T3 would

> need Armour; especially since only a small percentage have this

> problem. What's the reason?

>

> Thanks,

>

[Guest guest]

My understanding [i believe from Chuck] is that the molecule from

Synthroid is bioidentical to that produced by the thyroid gland, and to

that found in Armour. If so your body cannot tell the difference

between the molecule from Synthroid and any other bioidentical one. And

basically AFAIK T1 and T2 are waste products with no known benefit.

That leaves T3 and calcitonin, and I don't know much if anything about

calcitonin; but unless it's a major benefit then the major benefit would

seem to be T3.

But T3 is easily converted from T4 by [as I understand it] a very large

majority of patients. So I'm having a hard time understanding why

someone would want to take T3 as well as T4 if all they need is T4.

As for " natural " I think it's very much misunderstood. The natural

thing to do if you cannot produce T4 is to go into Myxedema coma and die

a very lingering, painful death. Not exactly preferred by most people I

suspect...

I suspect my body does fine with Synthroid, as I have no symptoms. I

think it's what Chuck and his relatives all take [and maybe his dog] but

I'm not sure. Any any event if the things you don't like were fatal I

doubt I'd have lived to 67! [ggg]

..

..

>

> Posted by: " liebs8181 " liebs8181@...

>

<mailto:liebs8181@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20hey%20guys%20need%20ur%20help>

> rcll8181 <rcll8181>

>

>

> Mon Sep 8, 2008 5:06 am (PDT)

>

> Good Morning, ~

>

> Besides the additional benefit of Armour's additional ingredients of

> T3, T2,

> T1, and calcitonin, many people simply prefer a non-synthetic product.

>

> No different than choosing a vitamin supplement made from organic, raw

> processed vegetables vs. synthetic vitamins.

> Organic butter vs. margarine.

> Whole grain sprouted bread vs. Wonder Bread.

> Grass-fed beef vs. a Big Mac.

> Non-GMO foods vs. GMO.

>

> Dessicated thyroid vs. synthetic thyroid.

>

> Which do you think your body would prefer?

>

> take care,

> ~

>

> I've wondered why anyone who has no problem converting T4 to T3 would need

> Armour; especially since only a small percentage have this problem. What's

> the reason?

>

> Thanks,

>

[Guest guest]

Hogwash. If you only take Synthroid because you cannot produce T4 then

ALL of the T3 in your body after a short time has been converted by your

body from T4. And that is very easy to measure. I'd like to see a

CREDIBLE number of the percentage of patients who cannot produce T3 from T4.

There are some patients who have binding problems and maybe RT3

problems, which I really don't understand. Or maybe they need

Calcitonin; I don't know???

..

..

>

> Posted by: " Gracia " circe@...

>

<mailto:circe@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20hey%20guys%20need%20ur%20help>

> graciabee <graciabee>

>

>

> Mon Sep 8, 2008 6:49 am (PDT)

>

>

> it's also a myth that most peeps do fine on T4 alone. you have to know

> what to look for however.

> Gracia

[Guest guest]

you are just repeating what Chuck says. a good doc can identify symptoms as

well as test the Frees. what is your FT3?

holistic docs always use Armour or it's equivelent. and that is what Stopt

the Thyroid madness website and book are all about.

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com

Gracia

Hogwash. If you only take Synthroid because you cannot produce T4 then

ALL of the T3 in your body after a short time has been converted by your

body from T4. And that is very easy to measure. I'd like to see a

CREDIBLE number of the percentage of patients who cannot produce T3 from T4.

There are some patients who have binding problems and maybe RT3

problems, which I really don't understand. Or maybe they need

Calcitonin; I don't know???

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there are many symptoms of low T3--big ones are weight and mood, exercise

intolerance.

Gracia

I don't know if I even have it. Since I'm symptom free I don't know if

it's even been ordered...

.

.

>

> Posted by: " Gracia " circe@...

>

<mailto:circe@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20hey%20guys%20need%20ur%20help>

> graciabee <graciabee>

>

>

> Sun Sep 7, 2008 8:01 pm (PDT)

>

>

> can you post your FT3?

> Gracia

>

> I've wondered why anyone who has no problem converting T4 to T3 would

> need Armour; especially since only a small percentage have this

> problem. What's the reason?

>

> Thanks,

>

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Hmmmm.... " always " ????? My cousins holistic doc has her on Synthroid and

Cytomel and she's doing just fine.

DS

Re: Re: hey guys need ur help

you are just repeating what Chuck says. a good doc can identify symptoms

as well as test the Frees. what is your FT3?

holistic docs always use Armour or it's equivelent. and that is what

Stopt the Thyroid madness website and book are all about.

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com

Gracia

Hogwash. If you only take Synthroid because you cannot produce T4 then

ALL of the T3 in your body after a short time has been converted by your

body from T4. And that is very easy to measure. I'd like to see a

CREDIBLE number of the percentage of patients who cannot produce T3 from

T4.

There are some patients who have binding problems and maybe RT3

problems, which I really don't understand. Or maybe they need

Calcitonin; I don't know???

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I take levo/cyto and my goiter shunk and my thyroid is doing fine.

It¹s my adrenals now I need to address.

sue

On 9/8/08 4:18 PM, " Dusty " <dusty@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> Hmmmm.... " always " ????? My cousins holistic doc has her on Synthroid and

> Cytomel and she's doing just fine.

>

> DS

>

> Re: Re: hey guys need ur help

>

> you are just repeating what Chuck says. a good doc can identify symptoms

> as well as test the Frees. what is your FT3?

> holistic docs always use Armour or it's equivelent. and that is what

> Stopt the Thyroid madness website and book are all about.

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com

> Gracia

>

[Guest guest]

According to someone I know I should treat to symptoms. Since what I'm

doing leaves me symptom free according to that expert I don't need

anything else! [ggg]

You can find a lot of the same material posted by Chuck on a lot of

sites. Just not the ones recommended by the iodine docs...

..

..

>

> Posted by: " Gracia " circe@...

>

<mailto:circe@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20hey%20guys%20need%20ur%20help>

> graciabee <graciabee>

>

>

> Mon Sep 8, 2008 10:56 am (PDT)

>

>

> you are just repeating what Chuck says. a good doc can identify

> symptoms as well as test the Frees. what is your FT3?

> holistic docs always use Armour or it's equivelent. and that is what

> Stopt the Thyroid madness website and book are all about.

> http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com

> <http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com>

> Gracia

>

> Hogwash. If you only take Synthroid because you cannot produce T4 then

> ALL of the T3 in your body after a short time has been converted by your

> body from T4. And that is very easy to measure. I'd like to see a

> CREDIBLE number of the percentage of patients who cannot produce T3

> from T4.

>

> There are some patients who have binding problems and maybe RT3

> problems, which I really don't understand. Or maybe they need

> Calcitonin; I don't know???

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sure. And about 10,000 other ailments.

..

..

>

> Posted by: " Gracia " circe@...

>

<mailto:circe@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20hey%20guys%20need%20ur%20help>

> graciabee <graciabee>

>

>

> Mon Sep 8, 2008 11:00 am (PDT)

>

>

> there are many symptoms of low T3--big ones are weight and mood,

> exercise intolerance.

> Gracia

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

> " And basically AFAIK T1 and T2 are waste products with no known

benefit. "

Just like you - many endocrinologists also believe there is little (or

no) known benefit or information about the other thyroid hormones 3,

5-diiodo-l-thyronine (T2) and monoiodothyronine (T1). This is not the

case and because I appreciate your need for references, here are some.

The manufacturers of Armour (Forest Pharmaceuticals) have done no

studies into the specific amount of T2, T1, calcitonin or any other

`T' hormones that are naturally occurring in the desiccated

thyroid. Nothing has been removed in the processing. Because no studies

have been done, this does not mean that T3,T1 and calcitonin are not

active.

There may be advantages to using Armour that are not related to its T3

content. Broda observed some patients treated with syntheticT4/T3

combination continued to experience residual symptoms, particularly dry

skin and oedema. Both symptoms resolved in 1-2 months when the treatment

was changed to Armour. (1) This observation suggests a third active

substance is secreted by the thyroid gland. The most likely candidate is

diiodotyrosine(T2). Although little was known about the function of this

compound in humans, the widely held assumption that it is metabolically

inert may be incorrect. In a study of guinea pigs, oral administration

of T2 prevented alterations in thyroid and pituitary function induced by

oophorectom (2). Administration of T2 also accelerated the metamorphosis

of tadpoles and enhanced the growth of the protozoan Tetrahymena. (3, 4)

Whole thyroid extracts contain T4 and T3, and also T2 and T1, which also

have hormonal activity.(5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17)

As seen already, T2 is very active in its metabolic effects.(5)

T2 has been shown to increase hepatic oxygen consumption by about 30%.

The authors of the study discovered that out of T4, T3 and T2, only T2

was active in stimulating rapid hepatic oxygen consumption. They

concluded that it acts rapidly and directly through activation of the

mitochondria.(6)

In another study, T3 and T2 were compared in terms of Resting Metabolism

(RM) and on the oxidative capacity of tissues that are metabolically

active (liver, muscle tissue, brown adipose tissue or BAT, and heart).

What they found was that T2 had a dose-dependent effect, which increased

RM and oxidative capacity. They found the greatest response to T2 was in

the liver and in BAT. The effects again occurred rapidly and

independently of protein synthesis. They stated that their results

suggested isomers like T2 could be direct mediators of thyroid hormone

regulation on energy metabolism.(7, 8) A further study found increased

hepatic oxidative capacity and thought this was due to a direct action

upon the mitochondria by T2.(9) Other studies had similar findings.(10,

11)

Yet another study showed the same thing: increased oxidative capacity

and energy expenditure, causing the authors to suggest that T2 and T3

displayed similar effects.(12) T2 was also shown to have a similar

effect to that of T3 on lipid metabolism with T2 actually doing a little

better in some tissue.(13)

Although there is little research in humans, some does exist. In one

study, using human mononuclear blood cells, it was found that T2

increased the rate of respiration significantly.(15) So, the efficacy

appears to have been established. Can it significantly inhibit TSH like

T3 and T4? The studies are conflicting, but one thing seems to be

prevalent amongst them all - TSH inhibition isn't nearly as severe

with T2 as it is with T3.(14)

One study showed that T2 is 13% less inhibitory on TSH levels, as

compared to T3.(15)

In yet another study, T3 and T2 suppressed TSH to similar levels;

however, it took 15 mcg/100g body weight per day of T3 to accomplish

this, while it took 200 mcg/100g body weight per day of T2 to accomplish

the same thing. This means it took about 13 times more T2 to exert the

same effect on TSH as T3.(16)

When researchers in another study administered 100 ug/kg of T3 and

800-1600 ug/kg of T2 the following occurred: T3 rapidly decreased serum

TSH levels to within minimal levels after 24 hours. Seventy-two hours

after application, TSH levels were still significantly lower than

control levels. As far as the T2, TSH levels were transiently reduced

and reached their lowest point at 24 hours and increased afterwards.

Basal levels were reached 72 hours after an application. What they found

after analysing the data was that there seemed to be a trend for a

dose-dependent suppression of TSH by T2, which did not reach statistical

significance. Furthermore, it appears as though it took 100 times more

T2 than T3 to finally exert the same amount of TSH inhibition. Even

using 400 times more T2 than T3, it appears that T3 only allows TSH to

be inhibited to just a slight degree less than T2.(17)

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