Re: Overbearing need to be right/Ilanar

August 25, 2008

OK I AM SICK OF THESE STUPID ARGUING POSTS. Can't be good for feeling better!

BURY IT ALL AND MOVE FORWARD PEOPLE!

Out of all the Thyroid groups I belong to this is def the worst with members

bickering!

Peace out!

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August 25, 2008

Betty,

I assume you are referring to me. If you know me AT ALL, and have

read my posts throughout this past year or so, I rarely get involved

in the arguing that goes on, I don't like it. This last time, I got

involved because some things were said that were wrong. You can be

SURE I will not get involved ever again. I have no problem with you

naming names rather than you referring to me as another on the group

that feels she knows it all. If you are NOT referring to me, I

apologize. I think the regulars in this group know me enough to

understand where I was coming from and KNOW I don't usually interfer.

You do not know me. I am the last person who feels she knows

everything.....ONCE AGAIN I WAS GIVING MY OPINION. This is really a shame.

Venizia

>

> You must not have read all the messages or you would not be blaming

Sue for

> everything. There is another on the group that feels she knows it

all and

> that is what started these posts.

>

> Betty

>

> Re: Overbearing need to be right

>

> Dear Sue,

>

> I don't comment much on this list. I read. I evaluate. I think about

> what people have said, and I learn.

> BUT your constant haranguing these past few days speaks more about

> your need to be right than the issues. You've already heard the

> suggestions. Let it go.

> Move on.

>

> STOP.

>

> Because whatever point you may have been trying to make you probably

> made, and all you are doing now is identifying yourself as

> " righteous " ... Let it go.

>

> Ilana

>

August 25, 2008

it is not you.

Betty

Re: Overbearing need to be right

>>

>> Dear Sue,

>>

>> I don't comment much on this list. I read. I evaluate. I think about

>> what people have said, and I learn.

>> BUT your constant haranguing these past few days speaks more about

>> your need to be right than the issues. You've already heard the

>> suggestions. Let it go.

>> Move on.

>>

>> STOP.

>>

>> Because whatever point you may have been trying to make you probably

>> made, and all you are doing now is identifying yourself as

>> " righteous " ... Let it go.

>>

>> Ilana

>>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

August 25, 2008

Thank you. I apologize.

Venizia

-- In hypothyroidism , " Betty " <bjshamrock@...> wrote:

>

> it is not you.

>

> Betty

>

> Re: Overbearing need to be right

> >>

> >> Dear Sue,

> >>

> >> I don't comment much on this list. I read. I evaluate. I think about

> >> what people have said, and I learn.

> >> BUT your constant haranguing these past few days speaks more about

> >> your need to be right than the issues. You've already heard the

> >> suggestions. Let it go.

> >> Move on.

> >>

> >> STOP.

> >>

> >> Because whatever point you may have been trying to make you probably

> >> made, and all you are doing now is identifying yourself as

> >> " righteous " ... Let it go.

> >>

> >> Ilana

> >>

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

August 25, 2008

HI Betty,

Exacty.

There is another group, person, etc. that has been TOTALLY OVERBEARING on

this group.

It¹s offensive and harmful.

Enough is enough.

Sue

On 8/25/08 4:59 AM, " Betty " <bjshamrock@...> wrote:

>

> You must not have read all the messages or you would not be blaming Sue for

> everything. There is another on the group that feels she knows it all and

> that is what started these posts.

>

> Betty

>

-

August 25, 2008

My vote:

There is a great temptation on groups, for the mommy-minded (no names,

no genders, and absolutely no hints as to who would fit that

epithet)to bring out managing behaviour JUST because other people are

arguing points instead of always opting for huggy-feely communions.

Arguing has more relevant and intellectually wholesome meanings in the

dictionary than the simplistic notion of ROWING.

I say the sort of attitude that no one should be allowed to raise

their voice in-case-it-disturbs the sensibilities of some other

individuals is unhealthy, and I note it has done a great dis-service

to the grown-up mentalities in many groups, whose capacity and choice

to handle the bare brunt of truths and make an intelligent, and

intelligible, way through their fields of interest with others of

mature mind, is hampered or killed off at the roots by expulsions to

appease those of more flimsy emotion.

The thing is surely tetchiness and bickering are the very signs of

being ill. Illness which is so often hidden, or in its initial phases

is not obvious, has a way of letting other mammals in its group

understand that something is wrong.

No one who posts here does so as a casual voyeur. And personally I

welcome the atmosphere of adult engagement which continues in this

group. Long may it do so.

I only dislike emotional blackmailers, which behaviour ought to have

no place amongst grown up and educated adults plying their empassioned

points of view.

Long may those capable of speaking their minds have a mind to speak them.

>

> OK I AM SICK OF THESE STUPID ARGUING POSTS. Can't be good for

feeling better!

>

> BURY IT ALL AND MOVE FORWARD PEOPLE!

>

> Out of all the Thyroid groups I belong to this is def the worst with

members

> bickering!

>

> Peace out!

>

> **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find

your travel

> deal here.

> (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

>

August 25, 2008

Who let Dr. Phil in our group?

CW

PS I was just kidding

-- Re: Overbearing need to be right/Ilanar

My vote:

There is a great temptation on groups, for the mommy-minded (no names,

no genders, and absolutely no hints as to who would fit that

epithet)to bring out managing behaviour JUST because other people are

arguing points instead of always opting for huggy-feely communions.

Arguing has more relevant and intellectually wholesome meanings in the

dictionary than the simplistic notion of ROWING.

I say the sort of attitude that no one should be allowed to raise

their voice in-case-it-disturbs the sensibilities of some other

individuals is unhealthy, and I note it has done a great dis-service

to the grown-up mentalities in many groups, whose capacity and choice

to handle the bare brunt of truths and make an intelligent, and

intelligible, way through their fields of interest with others of

mature mind, is hampered or killed off at the roots by expulsions to

appease those of more flimsy emotion.

The thing is surely tetchiness and bickering are the very signs of

being ill. Illness which is so often hidden, or in its initial phases

is not obvious, has a way of letting other mammals in its group

understand that something is wrong.

No one who posts here does so as a casual voyeur. And personally I

welcome the atmosphere of adult engagement which continues in this

group. Long may it do so.

I only dislike emotional blackmailers, which behaviour ought to have

no place amongst grown up and educated adults plying their empassioned

points of view.

Long may those capable of speaking their minds have a mind to speak them.

>

> OK I AM SICK OF THESE STUPID ARGUING POSTS. Can't be good for

feeling better!

>

> BURY IT ALL AND MOVE FORWARD PEOPLE!

>

> Out of all the Thyroid groups I belong to this is def the worst with

members

> bickering!

>

> Peace out!

>

> **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find

your travel

> deal here.

> (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

>

August 25, 2008

Laughter is good thanks for the joking.

Sue

On 8/25/08 11:13 AM, " Crystal " <sweetnwright@...> wrote:

>

> Who let Dr. Phil in our group?

> CW

>

> PS I was just kidding

> -- Re: Overbearing need to be right/Ilanar

>

August 25, 2008

Shame our doctors don't tickle us mercilessly when we go for our

consultations.

>

> >

> > Who let Dr. Phil in our group?

> > CW

> >

> > PS I was just kidding

> > -- Re: Overbearing need to be right/Ilanar

> >

>

August 25, 2008

LOL

that's what I think too. I think the bitchiness is a sign of illness but god

forbid I should say that.

I wish there had been someone like me to help me way back when

gracia

Who let Dr. Phil in our group?

CW

PS I was just kidding

-- Re: Overbearing need to be right/Ilanar

My vote:

There is a great temptation on groups, for the mommy-minded (no names,

no genders, and absolutely no hints as to who would fit that

epithet)to bring out managing behaviour JUST because other people are

arguing points instead of always opting for huggy-feely communions.

Arguing has more relevant and intellectually wholesome meanings in the

dictionary than the simplistic notion of ROWING.

I say the sort of attitude that no one should be allowed to raise

their voice in-case-it-disturbs the sensibilities of some other

individuals is unhealthy, and I note it has done a great dis-service

to the grown-up mentalities in many groups, whose capacity and choice

to handle the bare brunt of truths and make an intelligent, and

intelligible, way through their fields of interest with others of

mature mind, is hampered or killed off at the roots by expulsions to

appease those of more flimsy emotion.

The thing is surely tetchiness and bickering are the very signs of

being ill. Illness which is so often hidden, or in its initial phases

is not obvious, has a way of letting other mammals in its group

understand that something is wrong.

No one who posts here does so as a casual voyeur. And personally I

welcome the atmosphere of adult engagement which continues in this

group. Long may it do so.

I only dislike emotional blackmailers, which behaviour ought to have

no place amongst grown up and educated adults plying their empassioned

points of view.

Long may those capable of speaking their minds have a mind to speak them.

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August 25, 2008

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On 8/25/08 11:45 AM, " lmneedham " <lmneedham@...> wrote:

>

> Shame our doctors don't tickle us mercilessly when we go for our

> consultations.

>

August 25, 2008

No one rational would read your post and refer to you as a " know it

all " . Quite the opposite.

I think the poster had reference to the practice of " prescribing " the

every person on earth take the same thing that works for one's self.

Not a good idea IMHO.

>

> Posted by: " venizia1948 " nelsonck@...

>

<mailto:nelsonck@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Overbearing%20need%20to%20be%2\

0right%2FIlanar>

> venizia1948 <venizia1948>

>

> Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:15 am (PDT)

>

> Betty,

>

> I assume you are referring to me. If you know me AT ALL, and have

> read my posts throughout this past year or so, I rarely get involved

> in the arguing that goes on, I don't like it. This last time, I got

> involved because some things were said that were wrong. You can be

> SURE I will not get involved ever again. I have no problem with you

> naming names rather than you referring to me as another on the group

> that feels she knows it all. If you are NOT referring to me, I

> apologize. I think the regulars in this group know me enough to

> understand where I was coming from and KNOW I don't usually interfer.

> You do not know me. I am the last person who feels she knows

> everything..

> ...ONCE AGAIN I WAS GIVING MY OPINION. This is really a shame.

>

> Venizia

August 25, 2008

Gosh, I think you just dissed me.

Venizia

>

> No one rational would read your post and refer to you as a " know it

> all " . Quite the opposite.

>

> I think the poster had reference to the practice of " prescribing " the

> every person on earth take the same thing that works for one's self.

> Not a good idea IMHO.

>

> >

> > Posted by: " venizia1948 " nelsonck@...

> >

<mailto:nelsonck@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Overbearing%20need%20to%20be%20right%2FI\

lanar>

> > venizia1948 <venizia1948>

> >

> > Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:15 am (PDT)

> >

> > Betty,

> >

> > I assume you are referring to me. If you know me AT ALL, and have

> > read my posts throughout this past year or so, I rarely get involved

> > in the arguing that goes on, I don't like it. This last time, I got

> > involved because some things were said that were wrong. You can be

> > SURE I will not get involved ever again. I have no problem with you

> > naming names rather than you referring to me as another on the group

> > that feels she knows it all. If you are NOT referring to me, I

> > apologize. I think the regulars in this group know me enough to

> > understand where I was coming from and KNOW I don't usually interfer.

> > You do not know me. I am the last person who feels she knows

> > everything..

> > ...ONCE AGAIN I WAS GIVING MY OPINION. This is really a shame.

> >

> > Venizia

>

August 25, 2008

Now that's more like it!! Thanks for bringing this group back to where

we usually are. Not taking ourselves TOO seriously yet wanting to be

helpful!

Venizia

> >

> > OK I AM SICK OF THESE STUPID ARGUING POSTS. Can't be good for

> feeling better!

> >

> > BURY IT ALL AND MOVE FORWARD PEOPLE!

> >

> > Out of all the Thyroid groups I belong to this is def the worst with

> members

> > bickering!

> >

> > Peace out!

> >

> > **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find

> your travel

> > deal here.

> > (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

> >

August 25, 2008

Which is what my very first " Bickering " post was all about. Finally

someone gets it. Thanks now on to business....

Venizia

>

> OK I AM SICK OF THESE STUPID ARGUING POSTS. Can't be good for

feeling better!

>

> BURY IT ALL AND MOVE FORWARD PEOPLE!

>

> Out of all the Thyroid groups I belong to this is def the worst with

members

> bickering!

>

> Peace out!

>

> **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find

your travel

> deal here.

> (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

>

August 25, 2008

Now that was a little offensive, now take that back your your going to time

out AGAIN!

CW

-- Re: Overbearing need to be right/Ilanar

No one rational would read your post and refer to you as a " know it

all " . Quite the opposite.

I think the poster had reference to the practice of " prescribing " the

every person on earth take the same thing that works for one's self.

Not a good idea IMHO.

>

> Posted by: " venizia1948 " nelsonck@...

> <mailto:nelsonck@sbcglobal

net?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Overbearing%20need%20to%20be%20right%2FIlanar>