Re: First Visit with Endocrinologist

[Guest guest]

write it all down as you think of your questions

-Ali

On Aug 27, 2008, at 12:30 PM, Janelle Seymour wrote:

> I'll be going on September 15th to see an endocrinologist in my health

> insurance plan. I can't afford to go to my holistic MD who first

> diagnosed

> me. I found this endo on http://www.thyroid-info.com/topdrs/

> through the

> STTM website (Dr. Al-Zubaidi), but I find myself getting more and more

> nervous as my appointment approaches. What do I ask? What do I say?

> I'm

> so worried about whether or not this doctor recognizes hypothyroid

> not based

> on the TSH and I don't want to go through doctor after doctor

> trying to find

> one who will.

>

> I figure I'll take the Dear Doctor letter from STTM in with me and

> ask her

> to read it before discussion my situation. My brain is so foggy I

> wouldn't

> be able to remember everything to tell her. Any suggestions?

>

> Janelle

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Janelle ~

Take a deep breath in... exhale slowly.... and relax.

1. Do you have your labs (with ranges)? If so, you can post them here and

on the STTM forum for feedback. This will prepare you for when you

walk in to your endo's office.

2. Are you currently taking thyroid meds? If so, what kind and in what

dosage?

3. If you aren't currently taking thyroid meds, do you have a preference

(i.e. Armour, T4 only?). If so, why? (This is to prepare yourself in

discussion with your endo, not to convince me - or anyone else - of your

preferred treatment.)

4. Have you had a complete set of labs? This includes TSH, Free T3, Free

T4, Reverse T3, Ferritin, B-12. There is a list of recommended labs on the

STTM website. This is for your own information. The more you know the more

you can discuss with your doctor.

5. Start writing down questions to ask. Take this with you.

6. Consider taking another person with you for your visit. There is a

great article on www.about.thyroid.com about doing so ~ by a doctor who

herself recommends patients bring an advocate with them.

take care,

~

-----Original Message-----

I'll be going on September 15th to see an endocrinologist in my health

insurance plan. I can't afford to go to my holistic MD who first diagnosed

me. I found this endo on http://www.thyroid-info.com/topdrs/ through the

STTM website (Dr. Al-Zubaidi), but I find myself getting more and more

nervous as my appointment approaches. What do I ask? What do I say? I'm

so worried about whether or not this doctor recognizes hypothyroid not based

on the TSH and I don't want to go through doctor after doctor trying to find

one who will.

I figure I'll take the Dear Doctor letter from STTM in with me and ask her

to read it before discussion my situation. My brain is so foggy I wouldn't

be able to remember everything to tell her. Any suggestions?

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I managed to gather some labs going 4 years back from an old doctor. They

had suspected a thyroid issue with me for about 10 years now:

11/19/04

Free T4 - 0.98 (range .8 - 1.8)

Free T3 - 328 (range 230 - 420)

TSH - 2 (range .4 - 5.5)

2/4/08

Free T4 - 1.05 (range .8 - 1.8)

Free T3 - 266 (range 230 - 420)

TSH - 2 (range .4 - 4.5)

5/20/08

Free T4 - 1 (range .6 - 1.8)

Free T3 - 337 (range 230 - 420)

TSH - 0.859 (range .35 - 5.5)

Also run on 2/4/08:

Iron - 46

Ferritin - 36

B12 - 656

Folate - >24.0

ESR, Westergren - 27

Thyroid Peroxidase AB - 17

Anti-Nuclear AB W-RFX - Negative

They also ran a full metabolic panel and CBC on 11/19/04 and 2/4/08 if any

numbers are needed from that. I called the doctor I'm going to see in a

couple of weeks to request orders for the labs to get done before I go in.

I am taking Armour 90mg, once in the morning. I've tried taking it under

the tongue but I don't like the taste (it makes me gag). I take my prenatal

and chelated iron supplement 4 hours later at lunchtime (I'm nursing right

now).

I tried to go to that link but the website didn't exist?

Thank you for your help!

Janelle

On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 7:32 AM, liebs8181 <liebs8181@...> wrote:

> Hi Janelle ~

>

> Take a deep breath in... exhale slowly.... and relax.

>

> 1. Do you have your labs (with ranges)? If so, you can post them here and

> on the STTM forum for feedback. This will prepare you for when you

> walk in to your endo's office.

> 2. Are you currently taking thyroid meds? If so, what kind and in what

> dosage?

> 3. If you aren't currently taking thyroid meds, do you have a preference

> (i.e. Armour, T4 only?). If so, why? (This is to prepare yourself in

> discussion with your endo, not to convince me - or anyone else - of your

> preferred treatment.)

> 4. Have you had a complete set of labs? This includes TSH, Free T3, Free

> T4, Reverse T3, Ferritin, B-12. There is a list of recommended labs on the

> STTM website. This is for your own information. The more you know the

> more

> you can discuss with your doctor.

> 5. Start writing down questions to ask. Take this with you.

> 6. Consider taking another person with you for your visit. There is a

> great article on www.about.thyroid.com about doing so ~ by a doctor who

> herself recommends patients bring an advocate with them.

>

> take care,

> ~

>

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

>

> I'll be going on September 15th to see an endocrinologist in my health

> insurance plan. I can't afford to go to my holistic MD who first diagnosed

> me. I found this endo on http://www.thyroid-info.com/topdrs/ through the

> STTM website (Dr. Al-Zubaidi), but I find myself getting more and more

> nervous as my appointment approaches. What do I ask? What do I say? I'm

> so worried about whether or not this doctor recognizes hypothyroid not

> based

> on the TSH and I don't want to go through doctor after doctor trying to

> find

> one who will.

>

> I figure I'll take the Dear Doctor letter from STTM in with me and ask her

> to read it before discussion my situation. My brain is so foggy I wouldn't

> be able to remember everything to tell her. Any suggestions?

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Janelle,

That looks more like an RT3 or adrenal problem to me. Or, it may be the

usual post-partum thyroid drop. Did you have hypoT symptoms prior to the

pregnancy? Is that why they suspected your thyroid for 10 years?

Chuck

You wrote:

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> I managed to gather some labs going 4 years back from an old doctor. They

> had suspected a thyroid issue with me for about 10 years now:

>

> 11/19/04

> Free T4 - 0.98 (range .8 - 1.8)

> Free T3 - 328 (range 230 - 420)

> TSH - 2 (range .4 - 5.5)

>

> 2/4/08

> Free T4 - 1.05 (range .8 - 1.8)

> Free T3 - 266 (range 230 - 420)

> TSH - 2 (range .4 - 4.5)

>

> 5/20/08

> Free T4 - 1 (range .6 - 1.8)

> Free T3 - 337 (range 230 - 420)

> TSH - 0.859 (range .35 - 5.5)

>

> Also run on 2/4/08:

>

> Iron - 46

> Ferritin - 36

> B12 - 656

> Folate - >24.0

> ESR, Westergren - 27

> Thyroid Peroxidase AB - 17

> Anti-Nuclear AB W-RFX - Negative

>

> They also ran a full metabolic panel and CBC on 11/19/04 and 2/4/08 if any

> numbers are needed from that. I called the doctor I'm going to see in a

> couple of weeks to request orders for the labs to get done before I go in.

>

> I am taking Armour 90mg, once in the morning. I've tried taking it under

> the tongue but I don't like the taste (it makes me gag). I take my prenatal

> and chelated iron supplement 4 hours later at lunchtime (I'm nursing right

> now).

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, just ask, plead, beg -- anything -- for the doctor to give you what's

called a " Subclinical " dose of thyroid hormone. In 2.5, 5.0, and 7.5 mcg,

they can just about dispense it like water, and wait to SEE if you respond.

There IS NO HARM in taking this subclinical does and waiting to see how you

fare.

DO NOT LET THE DR make you leave without a scrip for the subclinical dose of

his/her/your choice.

drdan4health.com

On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Janelle Seymour <torena@...> wrote:

> I'll be going on September 15th to see an endocrinologist in my health

> insurance plan. I can't afford to go to my holistic MD who first diagnosed

> me. I found this endo on http://www.thyroid-info.com/topdrs/ through the

> STTM website (Dr. Al-Zubaidi), but I find myself getting more and more

> nervous as my appointment approaches. What do I ask? What do I say? I'm

> so worried about whether or not this doctor recognizes hypothyroid not

> based

> on the TSH and I don't want to go through doctor after doctor trying to

> find

> one who will.

>

> I figure I'll take the Dear Doctor letter from STTM in with me and ask her

> to read it before discussion my situation. My brain is so foggy I wouldn't

> be able to remember everything to tell her. Any suggestions?

>

> Janelle

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Chuck,

I have the box from Canary Club here for a saliva test but just can't get

the $100 together for it quite yet. How long does the post-partum thyroid

drop typically last? My dd is 15 months old. I did have hypoT symptoms

before pregnancy, going back to around 1999 (and maybe before that, this is

just what I can recall). I experienced a variety of mental health,

gastrointestinal issues, dry skin, breaking hair, acne (in 2002 is when it

started in my hair and has still not gone away), exhaustion, lack of

motivation, etc.

Janelle

On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote:

> Janelle,

>

> That looks more like an RT3 or adrenal problem to me. Or, it may be the

> usual post-partum thyroid drop. Did you have hypoT symptoms prior to the

> pregnancy? Is that why they suspected your thyroid for 10 years?

>

> Chuck

>

>

> You wrote:

> >

> >

> > Hi ,

> >

> > I managed to gather some labs going 4 years back from an old doctor. They

> > had suspected a thyroid issue with me for about 10 years now:

> >

> > 11/19/04

> > Free T4 - 0.98 (range .8 - 1.8)

> > Free T3 - 328 (range 230 - 420)

> > TSH - 2 (range .4 - 5.5)

> >

> > 2/4/08

> > Free T4 - 1.05 (range .8 - 1.8)

> > Free T3 - 266 (range 230 - 420)

> > TSH - 2 (range .4 - 4.5)

> >

> > 5/20/08

> > Free T4 - 1 (range .6 - 1.8)

> > Free T3 - 337 (range 230 - 420)

> > TSH - 0.859 (range .35 - 5.5)

> >

> > Also run on 2/4/08:

> >

> > Iron - 46

> > Ferritin - 36

> > B12 - 656

> > Folate - >24.0

> > ESR, Westergren - 27

> > Thyroid Peroxidase AB - 17

> > Anti-Nuclear AB W-RFX - Negative

> >

> > They also ran a full metabolic panel and CBC on 11/19/04 and 2/4/08 if

> any

> > numbers are needed from that. I called the doctor I'm going to see in a

> > couple of weeks to request orders for the labs to get done before I go

> in.

> >

> > I am taking Armour 90mg, once in the morning. I've tried taking it under

> > the tongue but I don't like the taste (it makes me gag). I take my

> prenatal

> > and chelated iron supplement 4 hours later at lunchtime (I'm nursing

> right

> > now).

> >

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Subclinical dose of what? I'm already on 90 mg of Armour..

Janelle

On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Dan Kukulka <enemaguy@...> wrote:

> Yes, just ask, plead, beg -- anything -- for the doctor to give you what's

> called a " Subclinical " dose of thyroid hormone. In 2.5, 5.0, and 7.5 mcg,

> they can just about dispense it like water, and wait to SEE if you respond.

>

> There IS NO HARM in taking this subclinical does and waiting to see how you

> fare.

>

> DO NOT LET THE DR make you leave without a scrip for the subclinical dose

> of

> his/her/your choice.

>

> drdan4health.com

>

>

>

> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Janelle Seymour <torena@...> wrote:

>

> > I'll be going on September 15th to see an endocrinologist in my health

> > insurance plan. I can't afford to go to my holistic MD who first

> diagnosed

> > me. I found this endo on http://www.thyroid-info.com/topdrs/ through the

> > STTM website (Dr. Al-Zubaidi), but I find myself getting more and more

> > nervous as my appointment approaches. What do I ask? What do I say? I'm

> > so worried about whether or not this doctor recognizes hypothyroid not

> > based

> > on the TSH and I don't want to go through doctor after doctor trying to

> > find

> > one who will.

> >

> > I figure I'll take the Dear Doctor letter from STTM in with me and ask

> her

> > to read it before discussion my situation. My brain is so foggy I

> wouldn't

> > be able to remember everything to tell her. Any suggestions?

> >

> > Janelle

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Janelle Seymour wrote:

>

> I have the box from Canary Club here for a saliva test but just can't get

> the $100 together for it quite yet. How long does the post-partum thyroid

> drop typically last?...

It can be permanent, but usually is just a few months. It is a

contributor to the conditions that cause post-partum depression. If you

are still hypoT 15 months later, that looks like it is going to stay.

However, your blood levels are consistent with the reference ranges.

That's why I suggested looking for the more subtle issues, particularly

the RT3.

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Hi Janelle ~

I'm glad Chuck was able to make some comments regarding your labs. I'm

dealing with a Reverse T3 and adrenals issues myself. The cortisol saliva

test is really important to see your levels during the day, which will show

your phase of adrenal fatigue (if any). The proper adrenals support can

make a huge difference. Additionally, adrenal stress can create a RT3

issue. Ask your new endo to run both Free T3 and Reverse T3. Once these

are run, the ratio between the two will let you know if there is RT3

Dominance.

Generally, 90 mgs of Armour is a fairly small dose. You do want your Free

T3 at or near the top of the range, where yours is in the middle. Your Free

T4 is on the low end; most people on Armour report feeling best with FT4 at

1.4. This may be solely from not enough Armour, or it may be RT3 and/or

adrenals, as per Chuck.

Your Ferritin is very low, which can cause the same issues with getting T3

to the cells as low cortisol. Ferritin needs to be at 50 to be able to

tolerate more Armour, and optimally be between 70-90. You can read about

Ferritin here: http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ferritin/.

take care,

~

-----Original Message-----

Hi ,

I managed to gather some labs going 4 years back from an old doctor. They

had suspected a thyroid issue with me for about 10 years now:

11/19/04

Free T4 - 0.98 (range .8 - 1.8)

Free T3 - 328 (range 230 - 420)

TSH - 2 (range .4 - 5.5)

2/4/0

Free T4 - 1.05 (range .8 - 1.8)

Free T3 - 266 (range 230 - 420)

TSH - 2 (range .4 - 4.5)

5/20/08

Free T4 - 1 (range .6 - 1.8)

Free T3 - 337 (range 230 - 420)

TSH - 0.859 (range .35 - 5.5)

Also run on 2/4/08:

Iron - 46

Ferritin - 36

B12 - 656

Folate - >24.0

ESR, Westergren - 27

Thyroid Peroxidase AB - 17

Anti-Nuclear AB W-RFX - Negative

They also ran a full metabolic panel and CBC on 11/19/04 and 2/4/08 if any

numbers are needed from that. I called the doctor I'm going to see in a

couple of weeks to request orders for the labs to get done before I go in.

I am taking Armour 90mg, once in the morning. I've tried taking it under

the tongue but I don't like the taste (it makes me gag). I take my prenatal

and chelated iron supplement 4 hours later at lunchtime (I'm nursing right

now).

I tried to go to that link but the website didn't exist?

Thank you for your help!

Janelle

[Guest guest]

Hi Janelle-

How long has it been since you delivered your baby? The reason I ask is that

during your post partum period your thyroid level can shift dramatically.

You are on a low dose of Armour and most likely do much better on a higher

dose- but I am concerned that if you increase your dose too high , too fast

that they may impact your infant since you are still breast feeding. What

ever you take- the baby is also taking.

With my new moms- I always work closely with the provider who is treating

the thyroid [ if I am not the one] and with the pediatrician. You might

have to take it slow as long as you are breast feeding.

I would also get the free T3 and 4, total T3 and 4 and a RT3.

Congrats on your new little one!

Nancie

-- RE: First Visit with Endocrinologist

Hi Janelle ~

I'm glad Chuck was able to make some comments regarding your labs. I'm

dealing with a Reverse T3 and adrenals issues myself. The cortisol saliva

test is really important to see your levels during the day, which will show

your phase of adrenal fatigue (if any). The proper adrenals support can

make a huge difference. Additionally, adrenal stress can create a RT3

issue. Ask your new endo to run both Free T3 and Reverse T3. Once these

are run, the ratio between the two will let you know if there is RT3

Dominance.

Generally, 90 mgs of Armour is a fairly small dose. You do want your Free

T3 at or near the top of the range, where yours is in the middle. Your Free

T4 is on the low end; most people on Armour report feeling best with FT4 at

1.4. This may be solely from not enough Armour, or it may be RT3 and/or

adrenals, as per Chuck.

Your Ferritin is very low, which can cause the same issues with getting T3

to the cells as low cortisol. Ferritin needs to be at 50 to be able to

tolerate more Armour, and optimally be between 70-90. You can read about

Ferritin here: http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ferritin/.

take care,

~

-----Original Message-----

Hi ,

I managed to gather some labs going 4 years back from an old doctor. They

had suspected a thyroid issue with me for about 10 years now:

11/19/04

Free T4 - 0.98 (range .8 - 1.8)

Free T3 - 328 (range 230 - 420)

TSH - 2 (range .4 - 5.5)

2/4/0

Free T4 - 1.05 (range .8 - 1.8)

Free T3 - 266 (range 230 - 420)

TSH - 2 (range .4 - 4.5)

5/20/08

Free T4 - 1 (range .6 - 1.8)

Free T3 - 337 (range 230 - 420)

TSH - 0.859 (range .35 - 5.5)

Also run on 2/4/08:

Iron - 46

Ferritin - 36

B12 - 656

Folate - >24.0

ESR, Westergren - 27

Thyroid Peroxidase AB - 17

Anti-Nuclear AB W-RFX - Negative

They also ran a full metabolic panel and CBC on 11/19/04 and 2/4/08 if any

numbers are needed from that. I called the doctor I'm going to see in a

couple of weeks to request orders for the labs to get done before I go in.

I am taking Armour 90mg, once in the morning. I've tried taking it under

the tongue but I don't like the taste (it makes me gag). I take my prenatal

and chelated iron supplement 4 hours later at lunchtime (I'm nursing right

now).

I tried to go to that link but the website didn't exist?

Thank you for your help!

Janelle

[Guest guest]

Hi Nancie,

DD is 15 months old. I've been on Armour for 4 or 5 months now. Just an

FYI, Dr. Hale has confirmed that thyroxin does not pass through mother's

milk (http://66.230.33.248/discus/messages/72/347.html and

http://66.230.33.248/discus/messages/53/34230.html). If you don't have a

copy of his book, it's an awesome resource and I highly recommend it.

Janelle

On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 12:49 AM, Nancie Barnett <

deifspirit@...> wrote:

> Hi Janelle-

> How long has it been since you delivered your baby? The reason I ask is

> that

> during your post partum period your thyroid level can shift dramatically.

> You are on a low dose of Armour and most likely do much better on a higher

> dose- but I am concerned that if you increase your dose too high , too fast

> that they may impact your infant since you are still breast feeding. What

> ever you take- the baby is also taking.

> With my new moms- I always work closely with the provider who is treating

> the thyroid [ if I am not the one] and with the pediatrician. You might

> have to take it slow as long as you are breast feeding.

> I would also get the free T3 and 4, total T3 and 4 and a RT3.

>

> Congrats on your new little one!

> Nancie

>

> -- RE: First Visit with Endocrinologist

>

> Hi Janelle ~

>

> I'm glad Chuck was able to make some comments regarding your labs. I'm

> dealing with a Reverse T3 and adrenals issues myself. The cortisol saliva

> test is really important to see your levels during the day, which will show

> your phase of adrenal fatigue (if any). The proper adrenals support can

> make a huge difference. Additionally, adrenal stress can create a RT3

> issue. Ask your new endo to run both Free T3 and Reverse T3. Once these

> are run, the ratio between the two will let you know if there is RT3

> Dominance.

>

> Generally, 90 mgs of Armour is a fairly small dose. You do want your Free

> T3 at or near the top of the range, where yours is in the middle. Your Free

> T4 is on the low end; most people on Armour report feeling best with FT4 at

> 1.4. This may be solely from not enough Armour, or it may be RT3 and/or

> adrenals, as per Chuck.

>

> Your Ferritin is very low, which can cause the same issues with getting T3

> to the cells as low cortisol. Ferritin needs to be at 50 to be able to

> tolerate more Armour, and optimally be between 70-90. You can read about

> Ferritin here: http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ferritin/.

>

> take care,

> ~

>

> -----Original Message-----

>

> Hi ,

>

> I managed to gather some labs going 4 years back from an old doctor. They

> had suspected a thyroid issue with me for about 10 years now:

>

> 11/19/04

> Free T4 - 0.98 (range .8 - 1.8)

> Free T3 - 328 (range 230 - 420)

> TSH - 2 (range .4 - 5.5)

>

> 2/4/0

> Free T4 - 1.05 (range .8 - 1.8)

> Free T3 - 266 (range 230 - 420)

> TSH - 2 (range .4 - 4.5)

>

> 5/20/08

> Free T4 - 1 (range .6 - 1.8)

> Free T3 - 337 (range 230 - 420)

> TSH - 0.859 (range .35 - 5.5)

>

> Also run on 2/4/08:

>

> Iron - 46

> Ferritin - 36

> B12 - 656

> Folate - >24.0

> ESR, Westergren - 27

> Thyroid Peroxidase AB - 17

> Anti-Nuclear AB W-RFX - Negative

>

> They also ran a full metabolic panel and CBC on 11/19/04 and 2/4/08 if any

> numbers are needed from that. I called the doctor I'm going to see in a

> couple of weeks to request orders for the labs to get done before I go in.

>

> I am taking Armour 90mg, once in the morning. I've tried taking it under

> the tongue but I don't like the taste (it makes me gag). I take my prenatal

> and chelated iron supplement 4 hours later at lunchtime (I'm nursing right

> now).

>

> I tried to go to that link but the website didn't exist?

>

> Thank you for your help!

>

> Janelle

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hmm, well my experience is that if the mom takes too much thyroid

replacement in a short time period and becomes hyper then that does affect

the infant. I looked up the literature and the cautions are is that it is

USUALLY safe but it is not an absolute. That tom hale should know that. He

also does not seem to be very knowledgeable about Armour or other natural

thyroid hormone meds.

-- RE: First Visit with Endocrinologist

>

> Hi Janelle ~

>

> I'm glad Chuck was able to make some comments regarding your labs. I'm

> dealing with a Reverse T3 and adrenals issues myself. The cortisol saliva

> test is really important to see your levels during the day, which will

show

> your phase of adrenal fatigue (if any). The proper adrenals support can

> make a huge difference. Additionally, adrenal stress can create a RT3

> issue. Ask your new endo to run both Free T3 and Reverse T3. Once these

> are run, the ratio between the two will let you know if there is RT3

> Dominance.

>

> Generally, 90 mgs of Armour is a fairly small dose. You do want your Free

> T3 at or near the top of the range, where yours is in the middle. Your

Free

> T4 is on the low end; most people on Armour report feeling best with FT4

at

> 1.4. This may be solely from not enough Armour, or it may be RT3 and/or

> adrenals, as per Chuck.

>

> Your Ferritin is very low, which can cause the same issues with getting T3

> to the cells as low cortisol. Ferritin needs to be at 50 to be able to

> tolerate more Armour, and optimally be between 70-90. You can read about

> Ferritin here: http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/ferritin/.

>

> take care,

> ~

>

> -----Original Message-----

>

> Hi ,

>

> I managed to gather some labs going 4 years back from an old doctor. They

> had suspected a thyroid issue with me for about 10 years now:

>

> 11/19/04

> Free T4 - 0.98 (range .8 - 1.8)

> Free T3 - 328 (range 230 - 420)

> TSH - 2 (range .4 - 5.5)

>

> 2/4/0

> Free T4 - 1.05 (range .8 - 1.8)

> Free T3 - 266 (range 230 - 420)

> TSH - 2 (range .4 - 4.5)

>

> 5/20/08

> Free T4 - 1 (range .6 - 1.8)

> Free T3 - 337 (range 230 - 420)

> TSH - 0.859 (range .35 - 5.5)

>

> Also run on 2/4/08:

>

> Iron - 46

> Ferritin - 36

> B12 - 656

> Folate - >24.0

> ESR, Westergren - 27

> Thyroid Peroxidase AB - 17

> Anti-Nuclear AB W-RFX - Negative

>

> They also ran a full metabolic panel and CBC on 11/19/04 and 2/4/08 if any

> numbers are needed from that. I called the doctor I'm going to see in a

> couple of weeks to request orders for the labs to get done before I go in.

>

> I am taking Armour 90mg, once in the morning. I've tried taking it under

> the tongue but I don't like the taste (it makes me gag). I take my

prenatal

> and chelated iron supplement 4 hours later at lunchtime (I'm nursing right

> now).

>

> I tried to go to that link but the website didn't exist?

>

> Thank you for your help!

>

> Janelle

>

>

>

>

>

>

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On Thu, 04 Nov 2010 19:24:51 -0000, you wrote:

>

>So this is where I am at right now, next step a scan to see what is causing my

abdominal fat which looks like an eight months pregnancy and wears me out

dragging it round with me all day! :-(

>

>Will keep you informed.

Some progress then, sounds like she is not up to date with her

symptoms list thought

if you Google " air hunger " thyroid you will see a lot of hits, it's a

known thyroid symptom

http://www.drlowe.com/jcl/comentry/breathingproblems.htm

Nick