Guest guest Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 I said patentABLE. Synthetic T4 drugs are MAN MADE in a lab, not made in a thyroid gland. Natural substances are created by nature and therefore not patentable, at least according to information at uspto.gov. Fake T4 is " similar " to the T4 created by a thyroid gland, but is not " exactly " the same because a component has been altered. It's still FAKEY t4!!!!!!! > > > > ... And YES, it's FAKEY fake fake T4...it's NOT what a real thyroid gland > > would make, it had an altered molecule to make it patentable. > > Synthroid and its generics have never been patented. No one ever applied > for a patent on any of them anywhere in the world. is correct, the > molecule is EXACTLY the same as what your gland once produced. > > Your credibility is approaching an all time low. > > Chuck > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 No; the molecules are identical. It is impossible to tell where they're made; there's no difference in them. The T4 in Synthroid was not changed to make it patentable; it was not changed AT ALL. A pig thyroid gland and a human thyroid gland and the Synthroid lab all produce identical molecules of T4. You keep on with the fake/modified BS; how about providing a bit of credible support for your position? Aren't you about as tired of this I said/you said foolishness as I am??? I _am not_ addressing what seems to me to be your basic premise: That Synthroid is ineffective for a smaller or larger number of hypothyroid patients. Whether that is valid or invalid is another matter entirely. All I am asking is that you quit providing false information to the group. And if you believe your assertion is valid please provide credible evidence. My challenge to you is: You can't. .. .. > > Posted by: " Sam " k9gang@... > <mailto:k9gang@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20T4%20Patents> > stealthwind <stealthwind> > > > Fri Dec 5, 2008 7:24 pm (PST) > > I said patentABLE. > Synthetic T4 drugs are MAN MADE in a lab, not made in a thyroid > gland. > > Natural substances are created by nature and therefore not > patentable, at least according to information at uspto.gov. > Fake T4 is " similar " to the T4 created by a thyroid gland, but is > not " exactly " the same because a component has been altered. > > It's still FAKEY t4!!!!!!! > > > > > > > > ... And YES, it's FAKEY fake fake T4...it's NOT what a real > thyroid gland > > > would make, it had an altered molecule to make it patentable. > > > > Synthroid and its generics have never been patented. No one ever > applied > > for a patent on any of them anywhere in the world. is > correct, the > > molecule is EXACTLY the same as what your gland once produced. > > > > Your credibility is approaching an all time low. > > > > Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 You seem to have a great handle on it. One minor quibble: Although Synthroid was originally grandfathered in it did eventually get FDA approval in 2002. See this quote: .. > The FDA findings resulted in the refusal to grant GRAS/E standing to > Synthroid. As a result, Knoll was forced to begin the NDA process and > conduct clinical trials. It should be noted that the FDA response to > Knoll's request, while implying that Synthroid had production > problems, did not label Synthroid as a dangerous drug (in which case > it would have been removed from the market), but simply required Knoll > to undergo the same NDA process as its competitors. After much debate, > the manufacturer of Synthroid acquiesced, filed an NDA, and received > FDA approval in July 2002. .. You can find the complete article here: <http://mediwire.skyscape.com/main/Default.aspx?p=Content & ArticleID=177010> .. .. You may have to wait as sometimes the page loads very slowly. Much of it sounds like a hatchet job on the makers of Synthroid but I'm convinced some of it is factual. Now, for your final exam you have to convince Sam! [ggg] Regards, .. .. > Posted by: " Steve " dudescholar4@... > <mailto:dudescholar4@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20T4%20Patents> > dudescholar <dudescholar> > > > Sat Dec 6, 2008 12:42 am (PST) > > T4 is T4 is T4 regardless of source - there are no additions or > deletions. It is also a GRAS drug (generally recognized as safe) > meaning it didn't ever have to go through FDA testing of any kind; it > was grandfathered in. > > The T4 your doctor prescribes, be it Armour or some other T4 only > source, is identical. One could also assemble a concoction of T4, T3, > T2, and T1 FROM ANY SOURCE and get identical results to using Armour. > > Steve > > Sam wrote: > > I said patentABLE. > > Synthetic T4 drugs are MAN MADE in a lab, not made in a thyroid > > gland. > > > > Natural substances are created by nature and therefore not > > patentable, at least according to information at uspto.gov. > > Fake T4 is " similar " to the T4 created by a thyroid gland, but is > > not " exactly " the same because a component has been altered. > > > > It's still FAKEY t4!!!!!!! > > > > > > > >>> > >>> ... And YES, it's FAKEY fake fake T4...it's NOT what a real > > thyroid gland > >>> would make, it had an altered molecule to make it patentable. > >> Synthroid and its generics have never been patented. No one ever > > applied > >> for a patent on any of them anywhere in the world. is > > correct, the > >> molecule is EXACTLY the same as what your gland once produced. > >> > >> Your credibility is approaching an all time low. > >> > >> Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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