Guest guest Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 no I don't have a pill splitter. i didn't get a response sooner so I jumped to 1 1/2 grains today & felt like my head was going to explode all day. gradually around 4pm it began to subside. actually this may sound weird but it really helped. i searched my brain for a way to effect my hormones in a positive way & i thought of two things: sex & chocolate so i did both and felt a lot better. tomorrow I return to 1 & 1/4 (my quarters I cut with a knife & are uneven but better than nothing. when you say small, how frequent should I up another quarter? thank you. ali On Dec 4, 2008, at 3:30 PM, Chuck B wrote: > Ali, > > If you are feeling that good now, your incremental increases should be > small. You do not want to risk more than a hint of hyperT. > > Do you have a pill splitter? > > Chuck > > > > I just read " Stop the thyroid etc " > > > And it sounds like 60mg or 1 grain of Armour is the > > > same as 60mg or 1 grain of NatureThroid. > > > Cool. So how gradually do I increase the dose? > > > (Since I only have 60mg tablets.) > > > Is it safe to take 1/2 more grain every 2 weeks up to 3 to 5 > grains > > > max? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 I think it would work better to first get enough iodine (50mg) and then add Armoru as needed. Gracia no I don't have a pill splitter. i didn't get a response sooner so I jumped to 1 1/2 grains today & felt like my head was going to explode all day. gradually around 4pm it began to subside. actually this may sound weird but it really helped. i searched my brain for a way to effect my hormones in a positive way & i thought of two things: sex & chocolate so i did both and felt a lot better. tomorrow I return to 1 & 1/4 (my quarters I cut with a knife & are uneven but better than nothing. when you say small, how frequent should I up another quarter? thank you. ali Recent Activity a.. 5New Members Visit Your Group Health Early Detection Know the symptoms of breast cancer. Meditation and Lovingkindness A Group to share and learn. Share Photos Put your favorite photos and more online. . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.14/1829 - Release Date: 12/4/2008 2:59 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Ok. I'll hold for now at 1 1/4 grains on Naturethroid & ad more iodoral. I'll move from 2 to 3 today. Thank you. Blessings Ali On Dec 5, 2008, at 7:34 AM, Gracia wrote: > > I think it would work better to first get enough iodine (50mg) and > then add Armoru as needed. > Gracia > > no I don't have a pill splitter. i didn't get a response sooner so I > jumped to 1 1/2 grains today > & felt like my head was going to explode all day. gradually around > 4pm it began to subside. > actually this may sound weird but it really helped. > i searched my brain for a way to effect my hormones in a > positive way & i thought of two things: sex & chocolate > so i did both and felt a lot better. > tomorrow I return to 1 & 1/4 (my quarters I cut with a knife > & are uneven but better than nothing. > when you say small, how frequent should I up another quarter? > thank you. > ali > > Recent Activity > a.. 5New Members > Visit Your Group > Health > Early Detection > > Know the symptoms > > of breast cancer. > > Meditation and > Lovingkindness > > A Group > > to share and learn. > > Share Photos > Put your favorite > > photos and > > more online. > . > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.14/1829 - Release Date: > 12/4/2008 2:59 PM > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Ali, You wrote: > ... jumped to 1 1/2 grains today > & felt like my head was going to explode all day. ... > when you say small, how frequent should I up another quarter? If you have thyroid function left, your feed back loops can react to sudden changes in dosage, sometimes causing paradoxical " oscillations. " For example, you might have experienced a momentary _drop_ in T3 levels after increasing your intake. It takes several weeks for such effects to go away from T4 changes. T3 effects are typically just a few days at the most. I would suggest at least a week, more if you are close to feeling well or hyperT. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Ok. I have a hard time committing the technical stuff to memory, so what I take what you are saying to mean is.... I should be gentle with my body & after a month or so then move up 1/4 grain. (I do have thyroid function left, because since I started iodine my temperature has been increasing a little each month.) Thank you so much Chuck Ali On Dec 5, 2008, at 10:10 AM, <gumboyaya@...> wrote: > Ali, > > You wrote: > > ... jumped to 1 1/2 grains today > > & felt like my head was going to explode all day. ... > > when you say small, how frequent should I up another quarter? > > If you have thyroid function left, your feed back loops can react > to sudden changes in dosage, sometimes causing paradoxical > " oscillations. " For example, you might have experienced a momentary > _drop_ in T3 levels after increasing your intake. > > It takes several weeks for such effects to go away from T4 changes. > T3 effects are typically just a few days at the most. I would > suggest at least a week, more if you are close to feeling well or > hyperT. > > Chuck > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Ali, the best and safest way to dose desiccated thyroid would be to " dose by symptoms " , always waiting at least a week or more between increases. Typical increase sizes are 30mg (1/2 grain), and for some reason 15mg (1/4 grain). However, it may be a very very wise idea to get your adrenals " properly " tested/treated. Here are some articles: http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info/faq http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/aldosterone http://www.tuberose.com/Adrenal_Glands.html <---also pay attention to the aldosterone info near the bottom of the article. There's also an article on the stopthethyroidmadness site about the mistakes patients make...that's a good one to read. Sam (thyroidless since 1990) > > > ... jumped to 1 1/2 grains today > > > & felt like my head was going to explode all day. ... > > > when you say small, how frequent should I up another quarter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Hey, you should write a book! [ggg] .. .. > > Posted by: " Alison Trotta-Marshall " rubyrain11@... > <mailto:rubyrain11@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20NatureThroid%20Quesions%2Fse\ x%20%26%20chocolate> > gypsy1jig <gypsy1jig> > > > Thu Dec 4, 2008 10:10 pm (PST) > > ... i searched my brain for a way to effect my hormones in a > positive way & i thought of two things: sex & chocolate > so i did both and felt a lot better. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 Ali, Keep in mind, if you have Hashi's, your optimum dose is probably going to go up and down at least a couple of times before it stabilizes. Chuck > ...I should be gentle with my body & after a month or so then > move up 1/4 grain. (I do have thyroid function left, because since > I started iodine my temperature has been increasing a little each > month.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2008 Report Share Posted December 5, 2008 not if she gets enough iodine into her. http://www.drbrownstein.com Gracia Ali, Keep in mind, if you have Hashi's, your optimum dose is probably going to go up and down at least a couple of times before it stabilizes. Chuck > ...I should be gentle with my body & after a month or so then > move up 1/4 grain. (I do have thyroid function left, because since > I started iodine my temperature has been increasing a little each > month.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.14/1832 - Release Date: 12/5/2008 9:57 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 I don't have Hashi's but thanks. I need all the useful info. I can get. Ali On Dec 5, 2008, at 4:41 PM, Chuck B wrote: > Ali, > > Keep in mind, if you have Hashi's, your optimum dose is probably going > to go up and down at least a couple of times before it stabilizes. > > Chuck > > > ...I should be gentle with my body & after a month or so then > > move up 1/4 grain. (I do have thyroid function left, because since > > I started iodine my temperature has been increasing a little each > > month.) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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