RE: Prednisone & menstruation??

[Guest guest]

annette... i was dx in 03/2002...my bilis were 55 my kidneys shut down and 34 blood sugar needless to say i ended up in the hospital 3 times ...i am currently on 15 pred and 100 immuran also take prevacid ,cele...,toprol,norvasc,zanflex and soon vioxx.. my periods stopped for awhile then it started to reappear for days at a time my blood does not clot properly and the dr feels this is what is now occurring....my arms tend to bleed alot easier for 2 weeks of each month.....take care karen

[Guest guest]

Annette,

There's a good book to read by Dr. Palmer that explains a lot about

AIH. So many books don't do much more than mention it even if that. In Dr.

Palmer's book it mentions that periods can stop at an early age and with no

reason. This happened to me. Years before being diagnosed with AIH my

periods slowed down to nothing and then stopped. I wasn't to worried about

it as I had a Norplant inserted about that time and one of the side effects

of this is either heavy bleeding or spotty to no bleeding. I just thought

(and so did my doctor) that this was the explanation. Hind sight being what

it is it was probably an indication of the AIH.

Get Dr. Palmers book and read it. It's great. Hope this info helps. As

always, mention this to your doctors.

P.S. Welcome to the group.

[Guest guest]

Annette,

I have had 2 different stretched of time that my period stopped for no

apparent reason, one was for 6 months and one for 9 months (no baby)... Both

times I was under a tremendous amount of physical stress with my AIH related

problems. It came back and I never had any weird stuff happen.

I can't even imagine a bilirubin of 25! The highest I ever got was 10 and I

was ready to rip my skin off. Twenty five, they would have to put me in a

straight jacket! Glad you found a smart Dr. in SF!

Thakes care. Patty

[ ] Prednisone & menstruation??

I'm new to the world of high, long-term doses of Prednisone and was

wondering if anyone knows anything about possible effects on one's

menstrual cycle? I'm all too familiar with low, short-term tx of

prednisone due to life-long asthma. After being dx with AIH in June,

I was put on 30mg of Pred & 50mg of Imuran and now 4 wks later am

down to 15mg Pred & 75mg Imuran. Does this stuff mess with your

period at all? Or could it just be the trauma that my liver has

experienced that is messing with me?

The AIH was discovered after I starting experiencing liver failure

out of nowhere with no apparent cause. After my billirubin levels got

to around 25 and my enzymes surpassed 2000, they started the work-up

for a liver transplant. Fortunately I was transferred to an excellent

hospital in San Francisco and diagnosed within days. As soon as they

put me on my meds, my numbers started coming down. After 4 weeks I am

down to a billirubin of 5 and enzymes in the 100s & 200s. What a

close call!

This is all new to me and seems so complicated. I had never even

heard of AIH before this (nor had my mom who is a nurse). I am glad I

found this group because all of you seem to have a lot of insight

into this and other related diseases.

Annette

[Guest guest]

Hello to all . . .

It's been a while since I posted but this topic caught my attention . . . At

the height of my first bout with liver failure I my billi count was 26. I

had doctors coming in to look at me because they'd never seen a person with

such high levels . . . I was sedated for practically a month because the

itching was so INCREDIBLY HORRIBLE it was driving me insane!! Anyway, when I

started out on prednisillone I was on 40 MG a day . . . after three months at

this level I stopped having my period completely. I skipped three months . .

.. then after dropping the dosage I started normal cycles again--well . . .

for two months anyway--till I got pregnant! I know--a very risky thing to

let happen--medically speaking . . . but a great result in the end. Guess my

two cents worth is---don't take anything for granted!! My best to all !!

Gaye

AIH 1997

[Guest guest]

Annette,

I just picked up my pred refill from my new pharmacy... the monograph

that the pharmacy provides with the scrip says that among the other

side effects of pred it can affect menstruation...it just doesnt

explain how. I can't answer from personal experience cause I had

already had a hysterectomy before the AIH came along.

nne

> I'm new to the world of high, long-term doses of Prednisone and was

> wondering if anyone knows anything about possible effects on one's

> menstrual cycle? I'm all too familiar with low, short-term tx of

> prednisone due to life-long asthma. After being dx with AIH in June,

> I was put on 30mg of Pred & 50mg of Imuran and now 4 wks later am

> down to 15mg Pred & 75mg Imuran. Does this stuff mess with your

> period at all? Or could it just be the trauma that my liver has

> experienced that is messing with me?

>

> The AIH was discovered after I starting experiencing liver failure

> out of nowhere with no apparent cause. After my billirubin levels got

> to around 25 and my enzymes surpassed 2000, they started the work-up

> for a liver transplant. Fortunately I was transferred to an excellent

> hospital in San Francisco and diagnosed within days. As soon as they

> put me on my meds, my numbers started coming down. After 4 weeks I am

> down to a billirubin of 5 and enzymes in the 100s & 200s. What a

> close call!

>

> This is all new to me and seems so complicated. I had never even

> heard of AIH before this (nor had my mom who is a nurse). I am glad I

> found this group because all of you seem to have a lot of insight

> into this and other related diseases.

>

> Annette

[Guest guest]

Dear Annette,

You must have been severely jaundiced?

[ ] Prednisone &

menstruation??

I'm new to the world of high, long-term doses of

Prednisone and was

wondering if anyone knows anything about possible

effects on one's

menstrual cycle? I'm all too familiar with low,

short-term tx of

prednisone due to life-long asthma. After being dx

with AIH in June,

I was put on 30mg of Pred & 50mg of Imuran and

now 4 wks later am

down to 15mg Pred & 75mg Imuran. Does this

stuff mess with your

period at all? Or could it just be the trauma that

my liver has

experienced that is messing with me?

The AIH was discovered after I starting

experiencing liver failure

out of nowhere with no apparent cause. After my

billirubin levels got

to around 25 and my enzymes surpassed 2000, they

started the work-up

for a liver transplant. Fortunately I was

transferred to an excellent

hospital in San Francisco and diagnosed within

days. As soon as they

put me on my meds, my numbers started coming down.

After 4 weeks I am

down to a billirubin of 5 and enzymes in the 100s

& 200s. What a

close call!

This is all new to me and seems so complicated. I

had never even

heard of AIH before this (nor had my mom who is a

nurse). I am glad I

found this group because all of you seem to have a

lot of insight

into this and other related diseases.

Annette

[Guest guest]

I am thinking that the billarubin levels have something to do with

the changes in menstration. I have been on 80-50mg of

prednisone over the past few months and have had absolutely

no changes in my periods. My billarubin levels have been

completely normal throughout all of my enzyme checks.

Billarubin has never been high for me. Maybe there is some

correlation...just a thought.

Jenna

-- In @y..., " lisa m skowron " <lsmaxfax@s...>

wrote:

> Dear Annette,

>

> You must have been severely jaundiced?

>

>

>

> [ ] Prednisone & menstruation??

>

>

> I'm new to the world of high, long-term doses of Prednisone

and was

> wondering if anyone knows anything about possible effects on

one's

> menstrual cycle? I'm all too familiar with low, short-term tx of

> prednisone due to life-long asthma. After being dx with AIH in

June,

> I was put on 30mg of Pred & 50mg of Imuran and now 4 wks

later am

> down to 15mg Pred & 75mg Imuran. Does this stuff mess with

your

> period at all? Or could it just be the trauma that my liver has

> experienced that is messing with me?

>

> The AIH was discovered after I starting experiencing liver

failure

> out of nowhere with no apparent cause. After my billirubin

levels got

> to around 25 and my enzymes surpassed 2000, they started

the work-up

> for a liver transplant. Fortunately I was transferred to an

excellent

> hospital in San Francisco and diagnosed within days. As soon

as they

> put me on my meds, my numbers started coming down. After 4

weeks I am

> down to a billirubin of 5 and enzymes in the 100s & 200s. What

a

> close call!

>

> This is all new to me and seems so complicated. I had never

even

> heard of AIH before this (nor had my mom who is a nurse). I

am glad I

> found this group because all of you seem to have a lot of

insight

> into this and other related diseases.

>

> Annette

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Jaundiced Yes. I was glowing in the dark. Still 10 is nothing compared to some of the levels others report here. I cringe thinking about it!

Patty

Note: Sorry I just saw you were talking to Annette, Annette, I too am curious about your experience.

Patty

-----Original Message-----From: lisa m skowron [mailto:lsmaxfax@...]Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 9:19 PM Subject: RE: [ ] Prednisone & menstruation??

Dear Annette,

You must have been severely jaundiced?

-----Original Message-----From: J. [mailto:scott_p@...] Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 3:31 PM Subject: RE: [ ] Prednisone & menstruation??

Annette,I have had 2 different stretched of time that my period stopped for noapparent reason, one was for 6 months and one for 9 months (no baby)... Bothtimes I was under a tremendous amount of physical stress with my AIH relatedproblems. It came back and I never had any weird stuff happen.I can't even imagine a bilirubin of 25! The highest I ever got was 10 and Iwas ready to rip my skin off. Twenty five, they would have to put me in astraight jacket! Glad you found a smart Dr. in SF!Thakes care. Patty-----Original Message-----From: amarilla33 [mailto:joelanet@...]Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 2:05 PM Subject: [ ] Prednisone & menstruation??I'm new to the world of high, long-term doses of Prednisone and waswondering if anyone knows anything about possible effects on one'smenstrual cycle? I'm all too familiar with low, short-term tx ofprednisone due to life-long asthma. After being dx with AIH in June,I was put on 30mg of Pred & 50mg of Imuran and now 4 wks later amdown to 15mg Pred & 75mg Imuran. Does this stuff mess with yourperiod at all? Or could it just be the trauma that my liver hasexperienced that is messing with me?The AIH was discovered after I starting experiencing liver failureout of nowhere with no apparent cause. After my billirubin levels gotto around 25 and my enzymes surpassed 2000, they started the work-upfor a liver transplant. Fortunately I was transferred to an excellenthospital in San Francisco and diagnosed within days. As soon as theyput me on my meds, my numbers started coming down. After 4 weeks I amdown to a billirubin of 5 and enzymes in the 100s & 200s. What aclose call!This is all new to me and seems so complicated. I had never evenheard of AIH before this (nor had my mom who is a nurse). I am glad Ifound this group because all of you seem to have a lot of insightinto this and other related diseases.Annette

[Guest guest]

Dear Patty,

Are you normal in color now?

[ ] Prednisone &

menstruation??

I'm new to the world of high, long-term doses of

Prednisone and was

wondering if anyone knows anything about possible

effects on one's

menstrual cycle? I'm all too familiar with low,

short-term tx of

prednisone due to life-long asthma. After being dx

with AIH in June,

I was put on 30mg of Pred & 50mg of Imuran and

now 4 wks later am

down to 15mg Pred & 75mg Imuran. Does this

stuff mess with your

period at all? Or could it just be the trauma that

my liver has

experienced that is messing with me?

The AIH was discovered after I starting

experiencing liver failure

out of nowhere with no apparent cause. After my

billirubin levels got

to around 25 and my enzymes surpassed 2000, they

started the work-up

for a liver transplant. Fortunately I was

transferred to an excellent

hospital in San Francisco and diagnosed within days.

As soon as they

put me on my meds, my numbers started coming down.

After 4 weeks I am

down to a billirubin of 5 and enzymes in the 100s

& 200s. What a

close call!

This is all new to me and seems so complicated. I

had never even

heard of AIH before this (nor had my mom who is a

nurse). I am glad I

found this group because all of you seem to have a

lot of insight

into this and other related diseases.

Annette

[Guest guest]

Patty:

I have been recession since Jan 2000 and I only take the Imuran, 100 mg a day. I haven't had a period since I first got sick in the summer of 1997.

Sue/WI

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

About the book. Please keep in mind that book is getting old. So many things in the medical field has changed. Be careful and try not to depend on the book because it may not give the answers for each individual. Depend on new information and listen to your doctors. When the docs don't give advice ask them questions until you feel comfortable. I call all of my docs when I need questions clarified.

My period all my life has been horrible, awful backaches, cramps, and have also made me sick. I am now trying to get a hysterectomy, I hate this sick feeling all the time from it. I bleed so heavily I am now anemic and take Iron pills. I do believe that having any liver disease causes more problems.

gayle/trans.6-99

galye@... @`

\I/

[Guest guest]

Yep. Remember I have been transplanted so I have not had problems with my AIH in 4.5 years. My problems are now different but I have not been on Prednisone since the day before the transplant and took Medrol (another steriod, similar to prednisone) for six months after transplant. Now my immunosuppressant is Prograf which is an anti-rejection drug but it controls my AIH also.

Patty

-----Original Message-----From: lisa m skowron [mailto:lsmaxfax@...]Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 8:36 AM Subject: RE: [ ] Prednisone & menstruation??

Dear Patty,

Are you normal in color now?

-----Original Message-----From: J. [mailto:scott_p@...] Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 9:16 PM Subject: RE: [ ] Prednisone & menstruation??

Jaundiced Yes. I was glowing in the dark. Still 10 is nothing compared to some of the levels others report here. I cringe thinking about it!

Patty

Note: Sorry I just saw you were talking to Annette, Annette, I too am curious about your experience.

Patty

-----Original Message-----From: lisa m skowron [mailto:lsmaxfax@...]Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 9:19 PM Subject: RE: [ ] Prednisone & menstruation??

Dear Annette,

You must have been severely jaundiced?

-----Original Message-----From: J. [mailto:scott_p@...] Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 3:31 PM Subject: RE: [ ] Prednisone & menstruation??

Annette,I have had 2 different stretched of time that my period stopped for noapparent reason, one was for 6 months and one for 9 months (no baby)... Bothtimes I was under a tremendous amount of physical stress with my AIH relatedproblems. It came back and I never had any weird stuff happen.I can't even imagine a bilirubin of 25! The highest I ever got was 10 and Iwas ready to rip my skin off. Twenty five, they would have to put me in astraight jacket! Glad you found a smart Dr. in SF!Thakes care. Patty-----Original Message-----From: amarilla33 [mailto:joelanet@...]Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 2:05 PM Subject: [ ] Prednisone & menstruation??I'm new to the world of high, long-term doses of Prednisone and waswondering if anyone knows anything about possible effects on one'smenstrual cycle? I'm all too familiar with low, short-term tx ofprednisone due to life-long asthma. After being dx with AIH in June,I was put on 30mg of Pred & 50mg of Imuran and now 4 wks later amdown to 15mg Pred & 75mg Imuran. Does this stuff mess with yourperiod at all? Or could it just be the trauma that my liver hasexperienced that is messing with me?The AIH was discovered after I starting experiencing liver failureout of nowhere with no apparent cause. After my billirubin levels gotto around 25 and my enzymes surpassed 2000, they started the work-upfor a liver transplant. Fortunately I was transferred to an excellenthospital in San Francisco and diagnosed within days. As soon as theyput me on my meds, my numbers started coming down. After 4 weeks I amdown to a billirubin of 5 and enzymes in the 100s & 200s. What aclose call!This is all new to me and seems so complicated. I had never evenheard of AIH before this (nor had my mom who is a nurse). I am glad Ifound this group because all of you seem to have a lot of insightinto this and other related diseases.Annette

[Guest guest]

Sue, Five years...Thats a long time. How old are you? Does you GYN worry about this???

Patty

-----Original Message-----From: ROSELLE50@... [mailto:ROSELLE50@...]Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Prednisone & menstruation??Patty:I have been recession since Jan 2000 and I only take the Imuran, 100 mg a day. I haven't had a period since I first got sick in the summer of 1997.Sue/WI

[Guest guest]

Hi Annette! Welcome to this group. It's a great resource. AIH messes with

the menstrual cycle, as does prednisone. Lesser of evils. Cathie

>From: " amarilla33 " <joelanet@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: [ ] Prednisone & menstruation??

>Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 18:05:08 -0000

>

>I'm new to the world of high, long-term doses of Prednisone and was

>wondering if anyone knows anything about possible effects on one's

>menstrual cycle? I'm all too familiar with low, short-term tx of

>prednisone due to life-long asthma. After being dx with AIH in June,

>I was put on 30mg of Pred & 50mg of Imuran and now 4 wks later am

>down to 15mg Pred & 75mg Imuran. Does this stuff mess with your

>period at all? Or could it just be the trauma that my liver has

>experienced that is messing with me?

>

>The AIH was discovered after I starting experiencing liver failure

>out of nowhere with no apparent cause. After my billirubin levels got

>to around 25 and my enzymes surpassed 2000, they started the work-up

>for a liver transplant. Fortunately I was transferred to an excellent

>hospital in San Francisco and diagnosed within days. As soon as they

>put me on my meds, my numbers started coming down. After 4 weeks I am

>down to a billirubin of 5 and enzymes in the 100s & 200s. What a

>close call!

>

>This is all new to me and seems so complicated. I had never even

>heard of AIH before this (nor had my mom who is a nurse). I am glad I

>found this group because all of you seem to have a lot of insight

>into this and other related diseases.

>

>Annette

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Patty:

I am 52 years old and he thinks and also the Mayo Clinic thinks it is due to the AIH and the medications.

I don' t miss it at all. I have my one daughter that is 18 and she is enough. I take Prempro daily.

Sue/WI

[Guest guest]

Yes! Extremely jaundiced. I was very close to getting a new liver,

but they diagnosed me promptly and got me on meds right away that

brought down the numbers by about 2-3 points every day. Somebody had

mentioned a bilirubin of 40 or 50...that is frightening!

Annette

> Dear Annette,

>

> You must have been severely jaundiced?

>

>

>

> [ ] Prednisone & menstruation??

>

>

> I'm new to the world of high, long-term doses of Prednisone and was

> wondering if anyone knows anything about possible effects on one's

> menstrual cycle? I'm all too familiar with low, short-term tx of

> prednisone due to life-long asthma. After being dx with AIH in June,

> I was put on 30mg of Pred & 50mg of Imuran and now 4 wks later am

> down to 15mg Pred & 75mg Imuran. Does this stuff mess with your

> period at all? Or could it just be the trauma that my liver has

> experienced that is messing with me?

>

> The AIH was discovered after I starting experiencing liver failure

> out of nowhere with no apparent cause. After my billirubin levels

got

> to around 25 and my enzymes surpassed 2000, they started the work-up

> for a liver transplant. Fortunately I was transferred to an

excellent

> hospital in San Francisco and diagnosed within days. As soon as they

> put me on my meds, my numbers started coming down. After 4 weeks I

am

> down to a billirubin of 5 and enzymes in the 100s & 200s. What a

> close call!

>

> This is all new to me and seems so complicated. I had never even

> heard of AIH before this (nor had my mom who is a nurse). I am glad

I

> found this group because all of you seem to have a lot of insight

> into this and other related diseases.

>

> Annette

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you all for the helpful info about your experiences. I

mentioned it to the hepatologist and she said it could just be the

stress on the body due to the liver problems. It's interesting that

someone said effects on menstruation was listed on their medication

as a possible side effect, because the most recent edition of the

drug handbook that my mother uses doesn't even mention it. From what

all of you have said, it sounds pretty normal to have messed up

periods with AIH for whatever reason, so I won't worry about it. My

main worry is just that I will become pregnant and not know it. I

tend to be extremely fertile and have read that Imuran should not be

used during pregnancy.

> Annette,

> I have had 2 different stretched of time that my period stopped for

no

> apparent reason, one was for 6 months and one for 9 months (no

baby)... Both

> times I was under a tremendous amount of physical stress with my

AIH related

> problems. It came back and I never had any weird stuff happen.

>

> I can't even imagine a bilirubin of 25! The highest I ever got was

10 and I

> was ready to rip my skin off. Twenty five, they would have to put

me in a

> straight jacket! Glad you found a smart Dr. in SF!

> Thakes care. Patty

>

> [ ] Prednisone & menstruation??

>

>

> I'm new to the world of high, long-term doses of Prednisone and was

> wondering if anyone knows anything about possible effects on one's

> menstrual cycle? I'm all too familiar with low, short-term tx of

> prednisone due to life-long asthma. After being dx with AIH in June,

> I was put on 30mg of Pred & 50mg of Imuran and now 4 wks later am

> down to 15mg Pred & 75mg Imuran. Does this stuff mess with your

> period at all? Or could it just be the trauma that my liver has

> experienced that is messing with me?

>

> The AIH was discovered after I starting experiencing liver failure

> out of nowhere with no apparent cause. After my billirubin levels

got

> to around 25 and my enzymes surpassed 2000, they started the work-up

> for a liver transplant. Fortunately I was transferred to an

excellent

> hospital in San Francisco and diagnosed within days. As soon as they

> put me on my meds, my numbers started coming down. After 4 weeks I

am

> down to a billirubin of 5 and enzymes in the 100s & 200s. What a

> close call!

>

> This is all new to me and seems so complicated. I had never even

> heard of AIH before this (nor had my mom who is a nurse). I am glad

I

> found this group because all of you seem to have a lot of insight

> into this and other related diseases.

>

> Annette

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Annette,

Wow, they were able to bring you back like

that. And you were so close to having a transplant. That is an extraordinarily

high bilirubin level. Now you are doing alright?

Thank Goodness!

[ ] Prednisone &

menstruation??

>

>

> I'm new to the world of high, long-term doses

of Prednisone and was

> wondering if anyone knows anything about

possible effects on one's

> menstrual cycle? I'm all too familiar with

low, short-term tx of

> prednisone due to life-long asthma. After

being dx with AIH in June,

> I was put on 30mg of Pred & 50mg of

Imuran and now 4 wks later am

> down to 15mg Pred & 75mg Imuran. Does

this stuff mess with your

> period at all? Or could it just be the trauma

that my liver has

> experienced that is messing with me?

>

> The AIH was discovered after I starting

experiencing liver failure

> out of nowhere with no apparent cause. After

my billirubin levels

got

> to around 25 and my enzymes surpassed 2000,

they started the work-up

> for a liver transplant. Fortunately I was

transferred to an

excellent

> hospital in San Francisco and diagnosed

within days. As soon as they

> put me on my meds, my numbers started coming

down. After 4 weeks I

am

> down to a billirubin of 5 and enzymes in the

100s & 200s. What a

> close call!

>

> This is all new to me and seems so

complicated. I had never even

> heard of AIH before this (nor had my mom who

is a nurse). I am glad

I

> found this group because all of you seem to

have a lot of insight

> into this and other related diseases.

>

> Annette

>

>

>

>

>

>