Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Nancie, You wrote: > > excuse me but my MD told me that she is an expert in thyroid diseases > and she uses armour! she- prudence Hall told me that the new upper limit > is now back to 5.0 for the TSH.... I have not seen any new papers suggesting an increase in the TSH limit, just more data confirming the drop to 3.0 (or lower for T3 meds), although the labs seem to continue to report the older limits. You might want to ask her about those recommendations of the American Society of Endocrinologists and the National Academy of Clinical Biochemists from 2003. It is obvious their conclusions are contrary to those of the American Thyroid Association. http://www.nacb.org/lmpg/thyroid_lmpg_pub.stm http://thyroid.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ & sdn=thyroid & zu=http%3A%2\ F%2Fwww.nacb.org%2Flmpg%2Fthyroid_LMPG_PDF.stm With the associated research references: http://www.altsupportthyroid.org/tsh/tshmedrefs4.php#supp http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/osteoporosis.htm Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Nancie, You wrote: > > just am fyi ; those links are dead. OOPS! Thanks. They must have taken them down recently. I'll have to take those out of the FAQ, also. Must be the brain fog. Here is an article citing them: http://thyroid.about.com/cs/testsforthyroid/a/newrange.htm The original documents: Demers, ce M.; Carole A. Spencer (2002). LMPG: Laboratory Support for the Diagnosis and Monitoring of Thyroid Disease. National Academy of Clinical Biochemistry (USA). Section 2.: Pre-analytic factors; Section 3.C.: Thyrotropin/ Thyroid Stimulating Hormone (TSH) measurement AACE Medical Guidelines for Clinical Practice for the Evaluation and Treatment of Hyperthyroidism and Hypothyroidism, Endocrine Practice, Vol. 8, No. 6, Nov/Dec 2002. Sources: Fatourechi V, Klee GG, Grebe SK, et al. Effects of reducing the upper limit of normal TSH values. JAMA. 2003;290:3195-3196. http://www.clinchem.org/cgi/content/abstract/51/8/1480?maxtoshow= & HITS= & hits= & RE\ SULTFORMAT= & author1=Kratzsch & andorexactfulltext=and & searchid=1 & FIRSTINDEX=10 & res\ ourcetype=HWCIT Some excerpts: American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists: doctors should " consider treatment for patients who test outside the boundaries of a narrower margin based on a target TSH level of 0.3 to 3.0. " National Academy of Clinical Biochemistry, part of the Academy of the American Association for Clinical Chemistry (AACC), and presented in their Laboratory Medicine Practice Guidelines for the Diagnosis and Monitoring of Thyroid Disease: " It is likely that the current upper limit of the population reference range is skewed by the inclusion of persons with occult thyroid dysfunction. " " In the future, it is likely that the upper limit of the serum TSH euthyroid reference range will be reduced to 2.5 mIU/L because >95% of rigorously screened normal euthyroid volunteers have serum TSH values between 0.4 and 2.5 mIU/L. " " A serum TSH result between 0.5 and 2.0 mIU/L is generally considered the therapeutic target for a standard L-T4 replacement dose for primary hypothyroidism. " " Thyroxine requirements increase during pregnancy. Thyroid status should be checked with TSH + FT4 during each trimester of pregnancy. The L-T4 dose should be increased (usually by 50 micrograms/day) to maintain a serum TSH between 0.5 and 2.0 mIU/L and a serum FT4 in the upper third of the normal reference interval. " Curiously my TSH today reached 5.27! My doctor is going to look at the frees and total T4 before he ups my T4 and gives me some T3. I feel fine, though. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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