temperature

[Guest guest]

Vegetable fermentation like kimchi are better in cold temperature.

Let the nature work for you. Above 18 degreeC may spoil your kimchi.

Slow and cold fermentation will lead you to success.

Below 10 degreeC is preffered,I think.

Korea is pretty cold in autumn and winter.

[Guest guest]

Below 10 degrees?! Wow. I will need to put it in cold water in a shady

place. Or else buy myslf a peltier. Hmmm.

Thanks for the tip

Dirk

On 5/29/06, Isao Haraguchi <dw1@...> wrote:

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> Vegetable fermentation like kimchi are better in cold temperature.

> Let the nature work for you. Above 18 degreeC may spoil your kimchi.

> Slow and cold fermentation will lead you to success.

> Below 10 degreeC is preffered,I think.

> Korea is pretty cold in autumn and winter.

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[Guest guest]

Dirk Coetsee wrote:

>How fussy do I need to be about temperature when making kraut/kimchi?

>Some people say the temp must be between about 21 and 25 degrees c. I was

>going to build regulated environment, but now it seems like I would be

>wasting my time. Lots of people make the stuff without strictly controlling

>temperature. Any ideas?

Generally, sauerkraut is best fermented at " room temperature " for about

a week and then cooler (under 15°C, preferably under 10°C) after that.

However, that's the ideal situation, and you can easily get away with

other conditions.

Kimchi is generally fermented at " room temperature " or a bit cooler, for

only a few days (even just one day!) and stored in a cool place.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_temperature

Don't get too concerned about it - just make sure you keep it in an

environment with a stable temperature, not too hot or too cold during

the first week, and reasonably cool after that.

--

Ross McKay, Toronto, NSW Australia

" Let the laddie play wi the knife - he'll learn "

- The Wee Book of Calvin

[Guest guest]

Ok,

Thanks! This sure explains why my other batches went so bad. I was

fermenting at 25 to 32 degrees C...

On 5/29/06, Ross McKay <rosko@...> wrote:

>

> Dirk Coetsee wrote:

>

> >How fussy do I need to be about temperature when making kraut/kimchi?

> >Some people say the temp must be between about 21 and 25 degrees c. I was

> >going to build regulated environment, but now it seems like I would be

> >wasting my time. Lots of people make the stuff without strictly

> controlling

> >temperature. Any ideas?

>

> Generally, sauerkraut is best fermented at " room temperature " for about

> a week and then cooler (under 15°C, preferably under 10°C) after that.

> However, that's the ideal situation, and you can easily get away with

> other conditions.

>

> Kimchi is generally fermented at " room temperature " or a bit cooler, for

> only a few days (even just one day!) and stored in a cool place.

>

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_temperature

>

> Don't get too concerned about it - just make sure you keep it in an

> environment with a stable temperature, not too hot or too cold during

> the first week, and reasonably cool after that.

> --

> Ross McKay, Toronto, NSW Australia

> " Let the laddie play wi the knife - he'll learn "

> - The Wee Book of Calvin

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Have you travelled out of the country or to Florida? I have trouble with

temperature regulation from being hypothyroid and due to a head injury....but

not what you describe. You are describing frank chills. Do they come at regular

intervals? If so, how many hours apart. What other symptoms do these colds have?

Any muscle cramping?

Change docs! ! ! ! ! ! In my professional opinion hearing this little, I would

look for something other than a cold.

You said 21 days of this? Please tell me more...I am suspecting something, but

I need to know more, and have you traveled anywhere and in what general area do

you live? Florida, south Texas,maybe?

jamye

Re: Temperature

If you are a women over 40 you could be going through menopause. First I would

check the immune system. Some people when they have an infection run low grade

fevers. I have had a low grade temperature all my life and the doctor says it is

normal for me 97.6. My husband had a normal temperature of 99. Lots of people

with Hypothyroidism are always cold that is one of the first things my doctor

asked me. Other things to check is Heart, Glands, hormones. Hope you feel better

D999

Dusty <dusty@...> wrote:

Quick question:

I've been ill with back to back " cold's " which developed into bacterial

infection in throat, ears and one eye. Quite warm and then chills - having

to cover up.

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26537/stime=1167785033/nc1=3848650/nc2=3848445/nc3=4025377> Finally went

to docs yesterday after 21 days of this. In location where doc is, my bank

is also located - as is my drugstore. I was late so I was rushing 'round -

drugstore first to drop off refill, then bank for a deposit and then to

docs. They pretty much took me right in and because of my cough and the

fact that I actually had sweat on my brow ,took my temp . It was 97!

During the last several months I've had severe chill attacks during sleep.

We keep a window open two rooms away - which blows a bit of fresh air in our

room. On cooler nights I (and my husband) are awakened by the severity of

my chills - which cause the bed to shake and me to shudder severely and

involuntarily enough so as to bite my lips and insides of my cheeks. It

takes quite a while and LOTS of 'stuff' to warm me up - i.e. - t-shirt w/

flannel pajamas, a terry robe over that, the sheet, and a feather comforter

. It takes quite a bit of time to warm up enough to stop the shakes.

Is this my thyroid or should I be looking at some other disorder?

Tks for any responses.

[Guest guest]

hi BJ

the Lugols is absolutely wonderful but you will need to take it consistently

for 3 months, I think 8 drops =50mg iodine/iodide. I have been on Iodoral 50mg

for almost a year now and still need it. Look at Hormone Solutions by Thierry

Hertoghe MD

http://www.helpmythyroid.com

http://www.womensinternational.com

Gracia

Hi,

I am a 51 yr old female with hypothyroidism. I've had all the symptoms for

about 2 or 3 years now. I have only been to a medical doctor one time in order

to do the blood work and find out what was really going on with my body. I was

exhausted all the time and started gaining weight for no reason (I have always

been very physically active and slim). I noticed that when I sat at my office

desk and was still that my head seemed to be spinning. I began to experience a

coldness that would not go away unless I had several layers of clothes on. I

also was loosing handfuls of hair when I combed it. The Dr. told me I was only

sub-clinical and didn't need to be put on medication at the time. I couldn't

even get up a 1/2 flight of stairs without having to stop and rest. I knew that

I needed to take action. I started calling several natureopathic doctors and

nothing seemed to work in the beginning. I was told that coconut oil, 1 large

tablespoons 3 or 4 times a day would be

sufficient to help the thyroid do it's work. It has helped tremendously, but I

seem to forget to take it since my memory is affected sometimes throughout the

day as well. Fogginess is a constant companion these days.

Anyway, I just recently stumbled upon a man who is a licensed pharmicist and

has sold his business to sell only natural products. He told me the reason my

hair was falling out was because my iodine levels were way down and I needed to

get them up. I started with 20 drops of Iodine/Iodide solution (Lugol's) taking

10 drops twice a day, I was starting to feel warmer and noticed a difference

immediately. My hair stopped falling out immediately. After a few days, then my

hair began to fall out some, but not as much as before, as I believe my body was

getting used to the dosage. He told me to stay on it about 2 weeks and then

start checking my Iodine levels with the drug store tinture. Then after about 3

weeks I noticed a difference in the way my body was responding to sleep and so I

told him. He asked me if I had been monitoring my Iodine levels by putting some

Iodine tinture from the drug store on my wrist... I forgot!. He told me I needed

to put this on the inside

of my wrist or any other place on my body and then check it after 24 hours. It

should still be there if I had enough iodine in my system. I did that and the

Iodine disappeared after about 8 hours. I obviously didn't have enough. However,

I noticed that my throat was really scratchy and I was very hoarse. I looked up

the symptoms for possible iodine poisoning and it seemed that I didn't have any

symptoms but the hoarseness. I was also having trouble falling asleep which has

never been a problem since I've had this. I could fall asleep standing up (so to

speak) before. I lowered my dosage to about 10 drops a day and it seems to be a

great help so far. The scratchiness and pain in my throat has been reduced

considerably. I realized I must have a cold as well. My Iodine levels are still

very low according to the wrist test, but I was told that eventually, once my

body tissues began to hold the iodine, I could cut it back to probably 3 or 4

drops a day, and then

maybe even one, depending how my body responded.

I still take my Thyroid Helper from wellnessresources.com with my largest meal

which makes a big difference in the way my body responds to digesting foods and

I take virgin cold extracted coconut oil as well.

I ordered recently some stinging nettle as I have read all sorts of good

things about how it boosts the thyroid hormone production. I also take some

amino acids and a high quality B Complex Vitamin which has helped tremendously.

I believe that some of us have low hormone production and some of us have

trouble converting what is produced into T4 which the body is able to use, I

hope I have that right. Anyway, the Wellness Resources sight is a lifesaver if

you have trouble loosing weight. They have a product called Leptislim that

helped me to loose weight and keep it controlled.

I was told that Lemon Balm () is a great help to low thyroid sufferers,

but haven't taken this consistently as yet. I should, as I had several plants

this year and dried the leaves. This is a 24/7 pace to keep up in trying to find

help, as the allopathic system seems to just give you a pill and tell you to

come back in 6 months so they can monitor. In the meantime, you freak out

because nothing is working and you can't function anymore. I've read so many sad

stories of women with my same problem, my sister for one, who have hit bottom,

because they trusted the Dr. and didn't do the research themselves.

Hope this might help someone and if anyone has some suggestions that might

help me, I would be most grateful. Menopause hasn't helped the situation any at

all, I'm taking some herbs for that and hanging in there.

Take care, all ..... I appreciate this sight.

Blessings!

BJ

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[Guest guest]

BJ,

You wrote:

> ... He asked me if I had been

> monitoring my Iodine levels by putting some Iodine tinture from the drug

> store on my wrist... I forgot!. ...

This " test " is quite bogus. Only a tiny fraction of iodine in any medium

is absorbed through the skin. You are mainly measuring how rapidly the

chemical evaporates, which is more a function of humidity and air

temperature than anything physiological.

Two papers studied this question in 1932, but you still find people

recommending the test as if it indicated something significant:

Nyiri,W., Jannitti,M.. About the fate of free iodine upon application to

the unbroken animal skin. J Pharmacol Exp Ther 45:85-107, 1932.

Biskind,M.S. Penetration through tissue of iodine in different solvents.

Proc Soc Exp Biol Med 30:35-37, 1932.

Dr. Derry, who is actually an iodine advocate also discredits this test:

http://thyroid.about.com/library/derry/bl2a.htm

Chuck

[Guest guest]

Chuck, I'm glad you added that. I thought I remembered that you had

posted that before, but wasn't 100 % sure.

Another thing I would add to BJ: If your advisor is using a bogus test

method for part of his advice, how can you depend upon any of it? This

information has been available for about 75 years.

Re: Temperature

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gumbo482001 <gumbo482001>

Sun Jan 7, 2007 3:43 pm (PST)

BJ,

You wrote:

> ... He asked me if I had been

> monitoring my Iodine levels by putting some Iodine tinture from the drug

> store on my wrist... I forgot!. ...

This " test " is quite bogus. Only a tiny fraction of iodine in any medium

is absorbed through the skin. You are mainly measuring how rapidly the

chemical evaporates, which is more a function of humidity and air

temperature than anything physiological.

Two papers studied this question in 1932, but you still find people

recommending the test as if it indicated something significant:

Nyiri,W., Jannitti,M.. About the fate of free iodine upon application to

the unbroken animal skin. J Pharmacol Exp Ther 45:85-107, 1932.

Biskind,M.S. Penetration through tissue of iodine in different solvents.

Proc Soc Exp Biol Med 30:35-37, 1932.

Dr. Derry, who is actually an iodine advocate also discredits this test:

http://thyroid.about.com/library/derry/bl2a.htm

<http://thyroid.about.com/library/derry/bl2a.htm>

Chuck

[Guest guest]

I am new and trying to figure out what is going on with me. I was told by a

friend to take my temperature for several days using a basal thermometer, I

cannot find one will another type work?