Re: Stress (Relapse while on LDN)

[Guest guest]

Dear Nikko,

So so sorry for your stress and strife, at this time. To answer

your question about " stress " . I believe that stress playa a big

part in bringing our MS sx to the surface. I think MS is caused by

some virus that lays dormant in our bodies for years, and then we

are overcome by a physical or mental stress situation, and is

followed by an MS exacerbation. This is what happened in my

experience.

I have had MS for 40 yrs and every exacerbation, including my first

one, has followed an extremely stressful situation in my life. The

stress that you are under right now is horrible. Keep taking your

LDN. It will help get you through this. And when you are stronger,

kick the " B " out...lol

My Dear Husband of 34 years just passed away in January, and LDN is

helping me through, without an exacerbation. It has been a very

stressful time for me, but this has been the proof for me, that LDN

is working.

I will pray that your situation gets better and that your stress

eases soon.

Love, SallyC.

" Rabbit " wrote:

> Hi all,

This is kinda both a response to _627 and a question to all

who would

> be kind enough to respond. Please, finally, for the record, just

how true is

> the suggestion that stress can effect our condition.

[Guest guest]

Nikko,

I've been there, done that! I believe the 'stress' factor is true. I also believe it can be the most difficult thing to deal with! Especially when the people doing the controlling are vital people in your life. Proverbs 17:22 says: A merry heart doeth good like a medicine, but a broken spirit drieth the bones. I know this is true. I just don't know how to break away from the cycle when I am so dependant on these vicious people. If I could walk it might help!! Just hang in there! I know that sounds trite, but what else can we do?

Marcie

n a message dated 2/20/2004 1:22:09 AM Central Standard Time, rtype@... writes:

Subj:[low dose naltrexone] Stress (Relapse while on LDN)

Date:2/20/2004 1:22:09 AM Central Standard Time

From: rtype@... (Rabbit)

Reply-to: low dose naltrexone

low dose naltrexone

Hi all,

This is kinda both a response to _627 and a question to all who would

be kind enough to respond. I've had MS (R/R) it seems for a long time, many

years, but wasn't diagnosed until Sep of 2002. I've been on LDN since

November, same year. My 2nd true attack (what led to diagnosis) left a lot

of damage, particuarly in my hands, mainly the left. (My first, after 6

months, had healed, on its own, I would say close to 95%.)

Dr Bihari also told me it would heal about 3 month of damage; unfortunately,

that didn't happen. It healed a lot, but the last 3 months damage is still

alive and well. The spasticity in both hands did stop, and I did regain

control over my limbs. To be more specific, whether it was natural helaing

or that and the LDN, I can feed myself again, can type again, etc. Until

now, I've been a firm believer in this drug, have spread the word to more

people than I can count, and had gone from suicidal back to, "well, this I

can live with, I guess, as long as I don't get any worse." Understand, my

life is my hands, so, yeah, I was devestated, not feeling life was worth it

without the few things I love to do.

Anyway, onto my question. Please, finally, for the record, just how true is

the suggestion that stress can effect our condition. Yes, ok, I'm a skeptic,

but it's hard for me not to be. After all, stress is the first thing people

will blurt out as a cause, and it's also the easiest, leaving the person a

little less afraid of the worst case scenario. Yes, also freely admitted, I

do worst case things, but I've had good reason to develop the habit.

Thanks to bloodsucking doctors who care more about the almighty $ than a

human life, I am now flat broke, and am forced to live with a (even though I

hate using the word, it applies clinically) psychotic just to stay alive,

just to prevent losing my home, which is all I have left to my name. He is

not so much physicallly abusive as he is mentally, but let me assure you, he

is indescribably so. To prevent boring you with years of grisly details and

horror stories, I will sum it up by saying, he likes me sick; I'm easier to

control that way (I just don't make as good a servant). Firstly, telling me

I need to get farrrr away, I *know* this, so honestly, I would if I could.

SSI would allow me to do so, but are doing everythng they can not to help

me.

Anyway (I'm good at rambling) obviously I am under more stress than I've

been in my life, even in the time I've been with this guy. Yes, I've had

episodes of "ghost symptoms" many times, always assured by Dr B "it's not an

attack, it's the stress". As much as I'd like to believe it this time, I

find it difficult. All my symptoms are back in force, (no, no new ones that

I notice) and I'm right back to where I was in 2002, terrified my life is

over, back on the anxiety drugs, and just flat out desperate. Please, dear

group, will you give me your honest thoughts on stress? Or perhaps your own

experiences with it?

TIA from a very scared bunny, and best hopes for all,

Nikko

[Guest guest]

I would have to concurr with Dr. B. about stress contributing to our relapses. I was stable for twelve years or so until a car dislocated both knees and talk about stress then! One day I was running the next on my back for a month I never healed up good from that and during the down time I went into secondary progressive M.S. Before the wreck I had the world by the tail and M.S. was the farthest thing from my mind.

As you can imagine the stress then accumulates and compounds just like your credit card interest and that adds to the problem.Look at how stressed I am just talking about this I can hardly type allready ( Reg.

-------Original Message-------

From: low dose naltrexone

Date: 02/20/04 00:21:09

low dose naltrexone

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Stress (Relapse while on LDN)

Hi all,This is kinda both a response to _627 and a question to all who wouldbe kind enough to respond. I've had MS (R/R) it seems for a long time, manyyears, but wasn't diagnosed until Sep of 2002. I've been on LDN sinceNovember, same year. My 2nd true attack (what led to diagnosis) left a lotof damage, particuarly in my hands, mainly the left. (My first, after 6months, had healed, on its own, I would say close to 95%.)Dr Bihari also told me it would heal about 3 month of damage; unfortunately,that didn't happen. It healed a lot, but the last 3 months damage is stillalive and well. The spasticity in both hands did stop, and I did regaincontrol over my limbs. To be more specific, whether it was natural helaingor that and the LDN, I can feed myself again, can type again, etc. Untilnow, I've been a firm believer in this drug, have spread the word to morepeople than I can count, and had gone from suicidal back to, "well, this Ican live with, I guess, as long as I don't get any worse." Understand, mylife is my hands, so, yeah, I was devestated, not feeling life was worth itwithout the few things I love to do.Anyway, onto my question. Please, finally, for the record, just how true isthe suggestion that stress can effect our condition. Yes, ok, I'm a skeptic,but it's hard for me not to be. After all, stress is the first thing peoplewill blurt out as a cause, and it's also the easiest, leaving the person alittle less afraid of the worst case scenario. Yes, also freely admitted, Ido worst case things, but I've had good reason to develop the habit.Thanks to bloodsucking doctors who care more about the almighty $ than ahuman life, I am now flat broke, and am forced to live with a (even though Ihate using the word, it applies clinically) psychotic just to stay alive,just to prevent losing my home, which is all I have left to my name. He isnot so much physicallly abusive as he is mentally, but let me assure you, heis indescribably so. To prevent boring you with years of grisly details andhorror stories, I will sum it up by saying, he likes me sick; I'm easier tocontrol that way (I just don't make as good a servant). Firstly, telling meI need to get farrrr away, I *know* this, so honestly, I would if I could.SSI would allow me to do so, but are doing everythng they can not to helpme.Anyway (I'm good at rambling) obviously I am under more stress than I'vebeen in my life, even in the time I've been with this guy. Yes, I've hadepisodes of "ghost symptoms" many times, always assured by Dr B "it's not anattack, it's the stress". As much as I'd like to believe it this time, Ifind it difficult. All my symptoms are back in force, (no, no new ones thatI notice) and I'm right back to where I was in 2002, terrified my life isover, back on the anxiety drugs, and just flat out desperate. Please, deargroup, will you give me your honest thoughts on stress? Or perhaps your ownexperiences with it?TIA from a very scared bunny, and best hopes for all,Nikko

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[Guest guest]

Nikko,

I am sorry about your circumstances, however, there is absolutely no doubt that stress does in fact cause ms trouble. You will be in our prayers to get out of your situation.

Regards,

Tom

[Guest guest]

Hi Nikko sorry life is such a bitch to you but hopefully your SSI comes through soon so you can ge away from this guy. Yes stress does get your MS going and you are definetly in a stressful situation. Stress can bring on an attack. Also a fever, cold or other illness can bring back old symptoms. So try to figure out if you picked up a bug of some kind and get it taken care of. I hope this helps you.

FlashyKathy

----- Original Message -----

From: Rabbit

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 2:21 AM

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Stress (Relapse while on LDN)

Hi all,This is kinda both a response to _627 and a question to all who wouldbe kind enough to respond. I've had MS (R/R) it seems for a long time, manyyears, but wasn't diagnosed until Sep of 2002. I've been on LDN sinceNovember, same year. My 2nd true attack (what led to diagnosis) left a lotof damage, particuarly in my hands, mainly the left. (My first, after 6months, had healed, on its own, I would say close to 95%.)Dr Bihari also told me it would heal about 3 month of damage; unfortunately,that didn't happen. It healed a lot, but the last 3 months damage is stillalive and well. The spasticity in both hands did stop, and I did regaincontrol over my limbs. To be more specific, whether it was natural helaingor that and the LDN, I can feed myself again, can type again, etc. Untilnow, I've been a firm believer in this drug, have spread the word to morepeople than I can count, and had gone from suicidal back to, "well, this Ican live with, I guess, as long as I don't get any worse." Understand, mylife is my hands, so, yeah, I was devestated, not feeling life was worth itwithout the few things I love to do.Anyway, onto my question. Please, finally, for the record, just how true isthe suggestion that stress can effect our condition. Yes, ok, I'm a skeptic,but it's hard for me not to be. After all, stress is the first thing peoplewill blurt out as a cause, and it's also the easiest, leaving the person alittle less afraid of the worst case scenario. Yes, also freely admitted, Ido worst case things, but I've had good reason to develop the habit.Thanks to bloodsucking doctors who care more about the almighty $ than ahuman life, I am now flat broke, and am forced to live with a (even though Ihate using the word, it applies clinically) psychotic just to stay alive,just to prevent losing my home, which is all I have left to my name. He isnot so much physicallly abusive as he is mentally, but let me assure you, heis indescribably so. To prevent boring you with years of grisly details andhorror stories, I will sum it up by saying, he likes me sick; I'm easier tocontrol that way (I just don't make as good a servant). Firstly, telling meI need to get farrrr away, I *know* this, so honestly, I would if I could.SSI would allow me to do so, but are doing everythng they can not to helpme.Anyway (I'm good at rambling) obviously I am under more stress than I'vebeen in my life, even in the time I've been with this guy. Yes, I've hadepisodes of "ghost symptoms" many times, always assured by Dr B "it's not anattack, it's the stress". As much as I'd like to believe it this time, Ifind it difficult. All my symptoms are back in force, (no, no new ones thatI notice) and I'm right back to where I was in 2002, terrified my life isover, back on the anxiety drugs, and just flat out desperate. Please, deargroup, will you give me your honest thoughts on stress? Or perhaps your ownexperiences with it?TIA from a very scared bunny, and best hopes for all,Nikko

[Guest guest]

Hi Nikko ... There are numerous studies in this area ...it is a given

This is one ..

http://www.ivanhoe.com/channels/p_channelstory.cfm?storyid=7023

All the Best

> Hi Nikko sorry life is such a bitch to you but hopefully your SSI

comes through soon so you can ge away from this guy. Yes stress does

get your MS going and you are definetly in a stressful situation.

Stress can bring on an attack. Also a fever, cold or other illness

can bring back old symptoms. So try to figure out if you picked up a

bug of some kind and get it taken care of. I hope this helps you.

>

> FlashyKathy

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Rabbit

> low dose naltrexone

> Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 2:21 AM

> Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Stress (Relapse while on LDN)

>

>

> Hi all,

>

> This is kinda both a response to _627 and a question to all

who would

> be kind enough to respond. I've had MS (R/R) it seems for a long

time, many

> years, but wasn't diagnosed until Sep of 2002. I've been on LDN

since

> November, same year. My 2nd true attack (what led to diagnosis)

left a lot

> of damage, particuarly in my hands, mainly the left. (My first,

after 6

> months, had healed, on its own, I would say close to 95%.)

>

> Dr Bihari also told me it would heal about 3 month of damage;

unfortunately,

> that didn't happen. It healed a lot, but the last 3 months damage

is still

> alive and well. The spasticity in both hands did stop, and I did

regain

> control over my limbs. To be more specific, whether it was

natural helaing

> or that and the LDN, I can feed myself again, can type again,

etc. Until

> now, I've been a firm believer in this drug, have spread the word

to more

> people than I can count, and had gone from suicidal back

to, " well, this I

> can live with, I guess, as long as I don't get any worse. "

Understand, my

> life is my hands, so, yeah, I was devestated, not feeling life

was worth it

> without the few things I love to do.

> Anyway, onto my question. Please, finally, for the record, just

how true is

> the suggestion that stress can effect our condition. Yes, ok, I'm

a skeptic,

> but it's hard for me not to be. After all, stress is the first

thing people

> will blurt out as a cause, and it's also the easiest, leaving the

person a

> little less afraid of the worst case scenario. Yes, also freely

admitted, I

> do worst case things, but I've had good reason to develop the

habit.

> Thanks to bloodsucking doctors who care more about the almighty $

than a

> human life, I am now flat broke, and am forced to live with a

(even though I

> hate using the word, it applies clinically) psychotic just to

stay alive,

> just to prevent losing my home, which is all I have left to my

name. He is

> not so much physicallly abusive as he is mentally, but let me

assure you, he

> is indescribably so. To prevent boring you with years of grisly

details and

> horror stories, I will sum it up by saying, he likes me sick; I'm

easier to

> control that way (I just don't make as good a servant). Firstly,

telling me

> I need to get farrrr away, I *know* this, so honestly, I would if

I could.

> SSI would allow me to do so, but are doing everythng they can not

to help

> me.

> Anyway (I'm good at rambling) obviously I am under more stress

than I've

> been in my life, even in the time I've been with this guy. Yes,

I've had

> episodes of " ghost symptoms " many times, always assured by Dr

B " it's not an

> attack, it's the stress " . As much as I'd like to believe it this

time, I

> find it difficult. All my symptoms are back in force, (no, no

new ones that

> I notice) and I'm right back to where I was in 2002, terrified my

life is

> over, back on the anxiety drugs, and just flat out desperate.

Please, dear

> group, will you give me your honest thoughts on stress? Or

perhaps your own

> experiences with it?

>

> TIA from a very scared bunny, and best hopes for all,

>

> Nikko

[Guest guest]

Hi Nikko,

My experience with stress has been like being hit with a lightning rod. You see I used to work with the mentally handicapped for years and as much as I loved my job, it was really stressing. I believe all this stress had something to do with the break down of my body defenses. I have read documentary's concerning stress and it shows how this can literary awaken things that are dormant in our bodies. I'm sorry you are having a difficult time and it would be very easy for me to say don't stress it, but I'm going to advise you to refocus. Regardless of this disease you are still the same person you used to be. Search deep inside yourself. Don't let anything or anyone make you feel less about yourself. Don't let anyone or anything dictate what you should be. You are unique. There will never be anyone like you. Last of all, do not let anything effect you, let go, and give it over to God. "A flame that is not fanned will not grow". It takes two to tango. Don't feed into the negative, always refocus on the positive, always. Do it for your own good. Ask God to find you your place of blessing, He will, you see He did it for me too. You are in my prayers Nikko. Take care.

God Bless

Yolanda

----- Original Message -----

From: Rabbit

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 2:21 AM

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Stress (Relapse while on LDN)

Hi all,This is kinda both a response to _627 and a question to all who wouldbe kind enough to respond. I've had MS (R/R) it seems for a long time, manyyears, but wasn't diagnosed until Sep of 2002. I've been on LDN sinceNovember, same year. My 2nd true attack (what led to diagnosis) left a lotof damage, particuarly in my hands, mainly the left. (My first, after 6months, had healed, on its own, I would say close to 95%.)Dr Bihari also told me it would heal about 3 month of damage; unfortunately,that didn't happen. It healed a lot, but the last 3 months damage is stillalive and well. The spasticity in both hands did stop, and I did regaincontrol over my limbs. To be more specific, whether it was natural helaingor that and the LDN, I can feed myself again, can type again, etc. Untilnow, I've been a firm believer in this drug, have spread the word to morepeople than I can count, and had gone from suicidal back to, "well, this Ican live with, I guess, as long as I don't get any worse." Understand, mylife is my hands, so, yeah, I was devestated, not feeling life was worth itwithout the few things I love to do.Anyway, onto my question. Please, finally, for the record, just how true isthe suggestion that stress can effect our condition. Yes, ok, I'm a skeptic,but it's hard for me not to be. After all, stress is the first thing peoplewill blurt out as a cause, and it's also the easiest, leaving the person alittle less afraid of the worst case scenario. Yes, also freely admitted, Ido worst case things, but I've had good reason to develop the habit.Thanks to bloodsucking doctors who care more about the almighty $ than ahuman life, I am now flat broke, and am forced to live with a (even though Ihate using the word, it applies clinically) psychotic just to stay alive,just to prevent losing my home, which is all I have left to my name. He isnot so much physicallly abusive as he is mentally, but let me assure you, heis indescribably so. To prevent boring you with years of grisly details andhorror stories, I will sum it up by saying, he likes me sick; I'm easier tocontrol that way (I just don't make as good a servant). Firstly, telling meI need to get farrrr away, I *know* this, so honestly, I would if I could.SSI would allow me to do so, but are doing everythng they can not to helpme.Anyway (I'm good at rambling) obviously I am under more stress than I'vebeen in my life, even in the time I've been with this guy. Yes, I've hadepisodes of "ghost symptoms" many times, always assured by Dr B "it's not anattack, it's the stress". As much as I'd like to believe it this time, Ifind it difficult. All my symptoms are back in force, (no, no new ones thatI notice) and I'm right back to where I was in 2002, terrified my life isover, back on the anxiety drugs, and just flat out desperate. Please, deargroup, will you give me your honest thoughts on stress? Or perhaps your ownexperiences with it?TIA from a very scared bunny, and best hopes for all,Nikko