Guest guest Posted March 4, 2004 Report Share Posted March 4, 2004 Dear Group, Most of the recent conversation involves MS, and luckily I don't have it, so I hope you don't mind me putting in my 2 cents worth. I have read posts where sleep was mentioned. Specifically that MS causes lack of good sleep and that with LDN sleep quality is improved as well as duration of sleep. LDN causes increase of endorphins. Right? I think endorphins allow one to experience restful sleep. With my own erythema nodosum, I sleep about 9 hours a day--and very restful with great dreams--quite entertaining ones. I have read Norman Cousins' book--Anatomy of an Illness. He used laughter to treat his akalosis spondilitis (sp). The more he laughed the better he felt--less pain. It is known that laughter increases endorphins, right? Could the LDN be working as the laughter to allow the body to rest enough to recover? I treat my EN with lots of rest and laughter. Compared to many on my EN group I have probably got the mildest case---less severe than in my younger days for sure. I still have flare-ups--but mild ones. Maybe the LDN will induce MS into a tentative remission where you know it is there, but not a major problem. I read that no claims of cure are made with LDN--just stopping the progression. I am impressed that no cures are claimed. Those snake oil remedies that cure everything never sit right with me. Anyway, these are just my thoughts. Wishing you all a pain-free and Happy Day! Love, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2004 Report Share Posted March 4, 2004 Nice Post ...Thank you for the uplifting positive words. Hugs for you SallyC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2004 Report Share Posted March 4, 2004 Hi Guys--- Tomorrow marks three weeks on LDN............I'm sleeping like a baby at night, but have also experienced feeling " exhausted " still, the following morning---this was one of them. I slept from 10-6, and then got up got my hubby and myself breakfast, then slept from 7:30 to 9:30........when I woke up the second time I felt " rested " . I am getting the feeling that my body is requiring more sleep for more repair work---is this possible, or has anyone else felt the same? Also, have been really down for the past two days---feeling somewhat overwhelmed, which partially is natural, because with the LDN, we just don't know what is really going on----had previous to LDN been on 37.5 of Effexor, but about once a week needed a boost ; doubled the amount to get me out of my black moods. Haven't experienced this since I was on the LDN , and wondered if there was any feedback on moods. I do notice if I take LDN at 9:30 PM I find myself more slluggish in the morning, but if I take it at 10 or 10:30, I seem to get up feeling very agitated and anxious; this takes about an hour to pass. Anything on this from anyone out there? <S> Pam _________________________________________________________________ One-click access to Hotmail from any Web page – download MSN Toolbar now! http://clk.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2004 Report Share Posted March 4, 2004 I hear ya on the time thing it seems to me that there are very few people that are as time sensitive as I am, so keep experimenting with it you will soon find your optimum time. I believe (just my theory mind you) that each person uses and expels ldn at a different rate, some faster than others and some slower. So that is what I believe to be one of the major drawbacks at this time to ldn use, sure it will work for most people and to some extent wonderfully taken ay any time before sleeping(for the night). For those of us that have a different make up than others we have to have the patience to play around with it! At least this is what I figure as I have bad results so quick when I take it too late or too early by just one hour. I have to carry my pill for the day in a pill bottle like you use when swimming if I go out during the day as you never know when you will be home again! You are only a month on ldn. and there should be a little more regulating happen in the future. Reg. -------Original Message------- From: low dose naltrexone Date: 03/04/04 13:08:09 low dose naltrexone ; enderw12@... Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] Good night sleep Hi Guys--- Tomorrow marks three weeks on LDN............I'm sleeping like a baby at night, but have also experienced feeling "exhausted" still, the following morning---this was one of them. I slept from 10-6, and then got up got my hubby and myself breakfast, then slept from 7:30 to 9:30........when I woke up the second time I felt "rested". I am getting the feeling that my body is requiring more sleep for more repair work---is this possible, or has anyone else felt the same? Also, have been really down for the past two days---feeling somewhat overwhelmed, which partially is natural, because with the LDN, we just don't know what is really going on----had previous to LDN been on 37.5 of Effexor, but about once a week needed a boost ; doubled the amount to get me out of my black moods. Haven't experienced this since I was on the LDN , and wondered if there was any feedback on moods. I do notice if I take LDN at 9:30 PM I find myself more slluggish in the morning, but if I take it at 10 or 10:30, I seem to get up feeling very agitated and anxious; this takes about an hour to pass. Anything on this from anyone out there? <S> Pam _________________________________________________________________ One-click access to Hotmail from any Web page – download MSN Toolbar now! http://clk.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 Hi Pam ( & all!) Was moved to reply by partially similar experience: Just 1 week on LDN - " flickering " results so far, but rather expected that! Suspect possible candida in the system & also likely flu type hangovers may still be around. I`m waiting a while to see if I have to figure how to deal with these possible complications or whether things will resolve of themselves in a while!!! Responded because I too am experiencing increasing fatigue during the day,though not the deep sleep, (little or no delta for some years,probably) am inclined to think that the current increasing weariness could be because the body may be intensifying it`s repair work? -I certainly hope so! On a fairly subtle level, I seem to be experiencing many quietly different sensations compared to pre-LDN & I am hopeful that there are important things going on! Anyway, early days, time will tell....! -Diagnosed with MS 13 years ago,-prednisone then as I didn`t know any better! No drugs since. Have had pleasing results with dietary modifications & supplements (ref. Judy Graham, Pagler, Swank, Embrey, D`Adamo-blood group diet-etc.) Plus yoga, much deep breathing, mindfulness meditation,chi kung exercise & , recently, rebounding(VG-start very gently,holding on to something!e.g.doorframe)-only tiny,briefest sessions of the physically demanding ones if energy low- Much helped by these,feel a lot better, but still gently deteriorating! -Now secondary progressive! Hence very excited about LDN....... Very grateful to this LDN site(esp. to Noland & now Larry J.Frieders),I have been haunting it obsessively every day since January! Best Wishes to All , Gerald P.S. I am inclined to think that almost certainly MS people who sort out their diet ,supplements & food sensitivities thoroughly & do physio at an appropiate level & avoid the heavy CRABS drugs, have an easier, more pleasant, less painful time of it,even if, as in my case(pre.LDN),they haven`t managed to halt the progression entirely. My apologies to any one who strongly disagrees with this, but I believe it`s true!(If inconvenient!) ----- Original Message ----- From: " Pam Ridge " <pamridge49@...> <low dose naltrexone >; <enderw12@...> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 8:05 PM Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] Good night sleep > > > > Hi Guys--- > > Tomorrow marks three weeks on LDN............I'm sleeping like a baby at > night, but have also experienced feeling " exhausted " still, the following > morning---this was one of them. I slept from 10-6, and then got up got my > hubby and myself breakfast, then slept from 7:30 to 9:30........when I woke > up the second time I felt " rested " . I am getting the feeling that my body > is requiring more sleep for more repair work---is this possible, or has > anyone else felt the same? > > Also, have been really down for the past two days---feeling somewhat > overwhelmed, which partially is natural, because with the LDN, we just don't > know what is really going on----had previous to LDN been on 37.5 of Effexor, > but about once a week needed a boost ; doubled the amount to get me out of > my black moods. Haven't experienced this since I was on the LDN , and > wondered if there was any feedback on moods. > > I do notice if I take LDN at 9:30 PM I find myself more slluggish in the > morning, but if I take it at 10 or 10:30, I seem to get up feeling very > agitated and anxious; this takes about an hour to pass. > > Anything on this from anyone out there? <S> > > Pam > > _________________________________________________________________ > One-click access to Hotmail from any Web page - download MSN Toolbar now! > http://clk.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2009 Report Share Posted August 25, 2009 Now if you could only train the doctors here in America to think like you..... I love you for your honor. Patty > > > From: Erwin T. Tan, MD <docbry@myjourneytob eauty.com> > Subject: [breastImplantSurvi vorNetwork] The way to happiness... > , BreastImplantSurviv orNetwork@ groups. com > Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 1:48 PM > > > > > > > Allow me to speak about my observations in my practice: > > When I was starting out with my cosmetic surgery practice, I thought that all patients knew what would really make them happy... well, after seeing hundreds of patients, I learned that that was wrong. > > Some patients who come to us don't really know what would make them happy, they merely come to us to have something done which would make their husband happy... their partners... their family... or even the guys that stare at them whenever they look good. It turns out, they just know what would make others happy, and not themselves. > > Then when they get something done, they still want more... more... more... that is their insatiable hunger for what they think would make them happy until they end up losing all their money, but still, haven't found a tiny morsel of happiness. > > Through the years, I have learned through observation that sometimes they come to us because they are confused, and they only echo what others want for them thinking that would make them happy. And so, I have learned to ask the right questions, I usually start by asking them, " What would make you happy? " , (as oppose to other surgeons asking " what do you hate about yourself? " ). .. then if for example they say, " big boobs " , I make sure that it's them that want it and not other people. If it turns out that they really want " bigger breasts " , that's the time that we discuss the safer > alternatives. And should they turn > out as merely echoing what others tell them, then I advise them to maybe go on a vacation, or try a spa treatment (which we also have)... or even just stay in their house and do a craft which they might find interesting. > > You might be wondering, if I still ever do get patients, well, yes, I do... but since the patients I get are the ones that are realistic with their expectations, and they know what would make them happy, they end up being " improved' versions of themselves. > > As they keep telling us during our training, " If you get a patient that doesn't know what would make them happy in the first place, then whatever you do won't make them happy. " And those are the patients that end up being headaches for us, because they'll keep complaining why it wasn't > as > they expected, etc etc... > > It is a wn-win situation because we make sure first that the patient really knows what they are doing and whether it would make them happy, if not, then I personally help them look for alternatives to what can help them find happiness. > > True happiness is " contentment " ... even if you live in a shoebox and yet you are content, then you are far better off than the sultan that lives in a palace who can't find what would make him happy. > > Happiness is a state of mind... an intersection of acceptance, contentment, and profound appreciation of what was given to you. > > Of course you have to balance contentment and aspiration-to- achieve, like why stop at being " good enough grooming " when you can comb your hair and you would look better. Cosmetic surgery (the safe alternatives) is just like make-up that can enhance you, but it is still up to you whether you will be happy after or end up finding that elusive state of happiness. > > Well, if you can never be happy now, you will never be happier after... but only if you can find that spark of happiness inside of you NOW, that you can find that blaze after cosmetic surgery. > > Bottomline, , search your heart... ask yourself, is having bigger breasts really what would make you happy, won't other things in life serve as alternatives, like good health, > happy > kids... great friends? If you still want them, then do your homework, research, find the safe alternatives and look for people who have underwent the procedures. Read the stories of the women on this list, they are a treasure of warnings to everyone considering saline implants. > > At the end of the day... your friends won't be with you... your partner might leave you (hopefully not)... your kids will eventually grow up and leave... and you would realize that what is important is yourself. When you are old and gray, you won't remember the whistles of guys on your figure... you won't remember the compliments you got on your wardrobe... everything fades... and you search your heart and ask yourself, " Did I live a happy life? " > > Believe me, you will only answer > yes to > that question if you have contentment. > > PS: I have been so busy the past weeks with the construction of my new clinic / medical center, but last Sunday, after a tiring day with the family, instead of going straight home, I decided to pass by a park... it was around 10pm already, but when we arrived at the park, the wind was blowing gently, the moon was hiding halfway on the clouds... the birds were asleep... and the surroundings had an aroma of mixed flowers. I sat on a bench, looked at the sky... the surrounding field... and then looked at the grass below me. You know what, for that brief moment, I had peace and contentment. .. I was happy. I looked at my family... they were happy, we were healthy... and God's presence was evident with His wonderful creation surrounding me. That is happiness... because I was content. > > Let's all try to find a " pocket of happiness " in our day... even if you are busy throughout the day, look for a place that would make you happy... if you can't go far, listen to a song that brings back good and happy memories... if you have the time and resources, then go to a place where you have never gone before and seek happiness along the way. > > For most people, they might end up singing the song, " Never been to me " ... and realize that everything they need to be happy is with them afterall, it's just a matter of identifying them. > > When I have time, I drive down to the beach, it's around a 30-minute drive from our house.... I go at night, I just walk on the beach and listen to the > waves... and then > everything just goes back to basic happiness and contentment. .. again ready to face the busy and tiring days ahead of me. > > ... I pray that you would find happiness, in whatever form... be it in cosmetic surgery or not, as long as you are happy and healthy. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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