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Hey Doug,

Just a quick response, Bee often talks about someone who had diarrhea

for 8 months straight (here's a quote from a past post). If they

could have it that long, I think having it for a month or two couldn't

be too bad, as long as you are replacing your fluids and taking Bee's

recommended electrolyte drink.

" Diarrhea is caused by toxins that the body is trying to get rid

off... One lady in my Candida Support Group in 1987 had diarrhea for

over 8 years when she started on the program. She kept calling me

discouraged that even though she was following the diet and taking the

supplements it still hadn't stopped. I encouraged her to stick to the

program, and that because she had it for 8 years it would take 8

months (1 month for every year). 8 months to the day she called me and

said her diarrhea had finally stopped. "

The best advice on when to do antifungals is what bee puts in her

getting started article. " Antifungals ... can be started when your

" die-off " symptoms have diminished after being on the diet... You

will know whether you are ready for a strong antifungal when you try

it. If your " die-off " symptoms are intolerable you should stop taking

the antifungal and stay on the diet longer. "

Since everyones die off reaction is different for someone they need to

wait until they no longer have diarrhea, for others its when they no

longer have headaches. I would just wait until you get up to the 6

tablespoons of VCO and if you still feel good try an antifungal, if

its knocks you on your butt, then stick to just the diet and

supplements for a little while longer and then try it again. From

what I have seen, its just a matter of trial and error to find out

what pace works best for your body.

As for your immune system, it may be very weak, or you may not have

canidda as bad, so there is less to deal with. You have said that you

had been on other anticandida diets, not that they got rid of the

problem completely, but that may have given you some insulation from

some of the more problematic health issues that develope from a

prlonged candida problem. Since everyone is different, the only way

to find out is as you progress on the diet, keep monitoring your

reactions to make sure you pace yoruself in a way that helps you heal

with out pushing too fast (as I think you know already).

As for canned tomato products, I have no idea about the calcium

chloride and stuff, but I did want to say that, whenever possible, I

always prefer fresh. Canned goods, even organic, often use rejects

from fresh produce sales. What this means is that spotted and briused

produce are usually what gets canned as those issues are not as

readily apparent after the canning process is completed. Now, even

though bruising isn't bad, spotting and other cosmetic issues, may

point to an unhealthy spoilage or mold issue. Since you can not tell

the appearance of the item after it's been canned, its hard to

guarantee that the canned produce is devoid of any mycotoxins. I

don't mean to alarm you. Canned items could be okay, and for some,

they may not have issues with it. Since I have had enough issues with

canned produce, I steer clear when ever possible. I guess I would

simply say approach it with caution. If you do fine with them, than

maybe you found a good brand, or the small amount of mycotoxins in the

canned produce is not an issue for you. Just something to think about.

Well, I guess that was more than just a quick response. Oops. I seem

to be pretty chatty lately. " )

Jecca

--- " Doug " <organyze@...> wrote:

....My first question is, is the diarrhea detrimental or a bad thing??

Or is it simply part of this whole thing in the early stages? I'm

having it on and off myself, but nothing horrible. I'm probably up

to 4-5 T of VCO and lots of butter...

....My 2nd question is, will I know to start antifungals when I can

eat 6 T of VCO per day and have normal stools, instead of loose as

they always are now? Are there any other " die-off " symptoms that

will subside, and I will know it's time for antifungals? I'm not

pushing to go too fast or anything... I'm intentionally not eating

much garlic at this point...

....Another similar question is if I'm not having bad die-off

reactions, that could mean that my immune system is too weak to fight

much, right??? Then I should just stay on the diet and wait, I guess.

Are the stools the only barometer for me to go by...

....MY Third question is about canned organic tomato products. I

found some Muir Glen certified organic diced tomatoes (Ingredients:

organic tomatoes, organic tomato juice, calcium chloride, naturally

derived citric acid). Also, Organic Tomato Sauce (Water, org tomato

paste, sea salt, org onion powder, or garlic powder, nat citric

acid). And Organic Tomato Paste (Ingredients Organic Tomatoes

only). All 3 cans say they are certified organic...

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Thanks... good advice on the canned tomatoes... I hadn't considered the

mold/mycotoxin issue. Perhaps I'll just use them rarely.

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