Jump to content
RemedySpot.com

Kelp

Rate this topic


Guest guest

Recommended Posts

I think our bodies can tell us more than any doctor or nutritionalist. The

important thing is to listen to our bodies. My body gets hyper symptoms

when I eat large quantities of shellfish or seaweed. So I have to be

careful about how much I ingest. Pay attention to your body. Everyone's

body is different is some ways and similar in others.

Most doctors do recommend that people with hyperthyroidism stay away from

kelp or seaweed, but I also know that some Chinese doctors prescribe it for

hyperthyroidism. Who knows??

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 years later...
Guest guest

I remember reading that a good dosage for O is 2 kelp tablettes a day, but

can anybody confirm the recommended daily dosage in milligrams.

Many thanks

Lise

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 4 years later...

April

Yes i agree

So you were taking kelp. When you said one or two grains. were you

talking about the kelp. How much iodine were you actually taking.

I'm not sure whether i buy into all this saturation dosage of

iodoral etc that some are taking. It would worry me taking so much.

I'm only taking kelp in mcg not mg. I am not on meds and don't want

to go to doctors to get thyroid checked because don't want to take

meds. I have had some success with coconut oil getting temperature

up but some days it is still fairly low. It is all about getting

temps up i'm sure to kick start thyroid in some people. cayenne is

good for metabolism as well. I was wondering whether to get thyroid

checked privately because soon as G.P involved i might get coerced

down that route. Were you definately lacking in iodine. Did you do

a patch test orginally and what were the results. I'm just trying

to establish how long it will take to get levels up and whether it

can be done on fairly low dose. Some people on forum seem to think

you have to take megadoses to achieve results.

Sal

> I started taking a kelp preparation about two months ago, and I

have been able

> to quit taking Armour with no ill effect. Granted I was only

taking a half

> to a full

> grain, which isn't much...but the goal has always been to get my

own

> production

> back where it needs to be so I could stop taking hormones.

> A deficiency somewhere, created the problem..so it would only make

sense

> that putting it back, would help correct it. ( for the majority

of us anyway

> )

>

> Considering that our cells remain " receptive " to hormones well

into our old

> age...

> theres no reason to believe that we lose the ability to make them,

so long as

> our

> equipment is intact, and we have the proper materials.

>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Sally - If you are looking for non-hormonal support of the thyroid,

check into guggul, ashwagandha, coleus forskolii, triphala & maca.

They are all herbals/adaptogens that are used to improve thyroid

function.

> April

Yes i agree

> So you were taking kelp. When you said one or two grains. were

you talking about the kelp. How much iodine were you actually

taking. I'm not sure whether i buy into all this saturation dosage

of iodoral etc that some are taking. It would worry me taking so

much. I'm only taking kelp in mcg not mg. I am not on meds and

don't want to go to doctors to get thyroid checked because don't

want to take meds. I have had some success with coconut oil getting

temperature up but some days it is still fairly low. It is all

about getting temps up i'm sure to kick start thyroid in some

people. cayenne is good for metabolism as well. I was wondering

whether to get thyroid checked privately because soon as G.P

involved i might get coerced down that route. Were you definately

lacking in iodine. Did you do a patch test orginally and what were

the results. I'm just trying to establish how long it will take to

get levels up and whether it can be done on fairly low dose. Some

people on forum seem to think you have to take megadoses to achieve

results.

> Sal

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 1 month later...

The tablets *are* raw kelp, usually. Kelp comes in a powder, and theyjust put it in tabs. Which is easy if you don't want to deal withthe powder, but the plain powder is WAY cheaper. I'm not sure what

effect cooking has on the alginate, but it seems to survive boilingjust fine (it's used as a thickener in a lot of commercial products).You can also buy " alginate " tabs, which are good for various

things and are purified seaweed alginate. Those don't have someof the other benefits, like iodine, but you get more alginate.Too much alginate can give some people gas, but it doesn't seemto cause problems otherwise.

-- On 1/16/07, <slyan2007@...> wrote:

--- In iodine , "

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 1 year later...
Guest guest

Gracia,

You wrote:

>

> kelp is not going to give you too much iodine!

It has been documented to give you enough to trigger Hashi's antibodies. In

fact, the Canadian government required a warning label to that effect fairly

recently.

Here is a May 15 bulletin from the Canada Vigilance Program

of the Marketed Health Products Directorate:

OTTAWA, ONTARIO--(Marketwire - May 15, 2008) - Health Canada is warning

consumers not to use the natural health product Trophic Kelp & Glutamic Acid HCl

due to the health risk posed by exposure to high levels of iodine. Women who are

pregnant or breastfeeding, and individuals with thyroid disease such as Graves'

disease are particularly at risk.

Excessive iodine exposure can result in an enlarged thyroid and may cause either

hypothyroidism (underactive thyroid disease) or hyperthyroidism (overactive

thyroid disease) in susceptible individuals. Symptoms of hypothyroidism include

weight gain, joint or muscle pain, fatigue, weakness, depression, increased

sensitivity to cold, and abnormal menstrual cycles. Over time, untreated

hypothyroidism may lead to infertility and heart disease. Hyperthyroidism

symptoms include sudden weight loss, rapid or irregular heartbeat, increased

sensitivity to heat, sweating, nervousness or irritability. Stroke is one of the

most serious complications of hyperthyroidism.

Unborn babies are very sensitive to high levels of iodine and may be born with

an enlarged thyroid. Significant swelling of the thyroid could compress the

baby's windpipe and interfere with breathing. As well, high levels of iodine in

individuals with thyroid disease such as Graves' disease may reduce the

effectiveness of antithyroid medications.

Health Canada cautions consumers, especially women who are pregnant or

breastfeeding, individuals with thyroid disease such as Graves' disease or

individuals with previous iodine deficiencies, to be aware that kelp products

contain iodine, and advises them to consult their health care practitioners

prior to taking these products.

Here is the earlier warning from 2003 which involved the recall of two kelp

products:

Health Alert

Health Canada advises against use of Seavite products containing iodine

May 9, 2003

Health Canada is advising consumers not to use Seavite Premium Atlantic Kelp

Blend and Seavite Premium Atlantic Kelp Tablets.

These products, when consumed according to the instructions on the label, can

provide 25 times the recommended daily allowance (RDA) per day of iodine for

adults, and could lead to serious health consequences. These consequences are

particularly noted in individuals with disorders of the thyroid gland, for

pregnant women themselves as well as for their fetus, for the newborn of

breastfeeding women, and for children of all ages.

There have been three reports of serious adverse events, one of which required

hospitalization, that have been attributed to the use of these two Seavite

products.

Both products have been recalled by the manufacturer, Newfoundland Aqua Products

Inc.

While iodine is necessary to ensure the healthy functioning of the thyroid

gland, excessive iodine intake can lead to thyroid disorders, which can lead to

heart problems. Excess iodine intake can manifest itself as either an under - or

over-active thyroid. Consumers who have concerns should consult their health

care provider.

Individuals especially sensitive to the toxic effects of excess iodine are

children of all ages, pregnant women and those who have been, or are, under a

doctor's supervision for thyroid disease, have had previous iodine deficiency

and have nodular goiter.

In addition, pregnant and breast feeding women need to exercise caution as the

fetus and nursing newborns are also highly susceptible to the adverse effects of

excess iodine.

Individuals taking amiodarone, a prescription drug for treating disorders of

heart rhythm as well as those exposed to iodine containing radiocontrast agents,

may also be at increased risk if they ingest these two Seavite products

concurrently.

The recommended daily allowance for iodine ranges from 90 micrograms (0.09

milligrams) per day for children aged 1-8 years to 150 micrograms (0.15

milligrams) per day for adults.

Chuck

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

Chuck, this is yet another example of crying " Wolff-Chaikoff " .

....if you were dying and inorganic iodine would save your life, I

wonder what you would choose to do...

Sam

> >

> > kelp is not going to give you too much iodine!

>

> It has been documented to give you enough to trigger Hashi's

antibodies. In fact, the Canadian government required a warning label

to that effect fairly recently.

>

> Here is a May 15 bulletin from the Canada Vigilance Program

> of the Marketed Health Products Directorate:

>

> OTTAWA, ONTARIO--(Marketwire - May 15, 2008) - Health Canada is

warning consumers not to use the natural health product Trophic Kelp

& Glutamic Acid HCl due to the health risk posed by exposure to high

levels of iodine. Women who are pregnant or breastfeeding, and

individuals with thyroid disease such as Graves' disease are

particularly at risk.

>

> Excessive iodine exposure can result in an enlarged thyroid and may

cause either hypothyroidism (underactive thyroid disease) or

hyperthyroidism (overactive thyroid disease) in susceptible

individuals. Symptoms of hypothyroidism include weight gain, joint or

muscle pain, fatigue, weakness, depression, increased sensitivity to

cold, and abnormal menstrual cycles. Over time, untreated

hypothyroidism may lead to infertility and heart disease.

Hyperthyroidism symptoms include sudden weight loss, rapid or

irregular heartbeat, increased sensitivity to heat, sweating,

nervousness or irritability. Stroke is one of the most serious

complications of hyperthyroidism.

>

> Unborn babies are very sensitive to high levels of iodine and may

be born with an enlarged thyroid. Significant swelling of the thyroid

could compress the baby's windpipe and interfere with breathing. As

well, high levels of iodine in individuals with thyroid disease such

as Graves' disease may reduce the effectiveness of antithyroid

medications.

>

> Health Canada cautions consumers, especially women who are pregnant

or breastfeeding, individuals with thyroid disease such as Graves'

disease or individuals with previous iodine deficiencies, to be aware

that kelp products contain iodine, and advises them to consult their

health care practitioners prior to taking these products.

>

> Here is the earlier warning from 2003 which involved the recall of

two kelp products:

>

> Health Alert

> Health Canada advises against use of Seavite products containing

iodine

> May 9, 2003

>

> Health Canada is advising consumers not to use Seavite Premium

Atlantic Kelp Blend and Seavite Premium Atlantic Kelp Tablets.

>

> These products, when consumed according to the instructions on the

label, can provide 25 times the recommended daily allowance (RDA) per

day of iodine for adults, and could lead to serious health

consequences. These consequences are particularly noted in

individuals with disorders of the thyroid gland, for pregnant women

themselves as well as for their fetus, for the newborn of

breastfeeding women, and for children of all ages.

>

> There have been three reports of serious adverse events, one of

which required hospitalization, that have been attributed to the use

of these two Seavite products.

>

> Both products have been recalled by the manufacturer, Newfoundland

Aqua Products Inc.

>

> While iodine is necessary to ensure the healthy functioning of the

thyroid gland, excessive iodine intake can lead to thyroid disorders,

which can lead to heart problems. Excess iodine intake can manifest

itself as either an under - or over-active thyroid. Consumers who

have concerns should consult their health care provider.

>

> Individuals especially sensitive to the toxic effects of excess

iodine are children of all ages, pregnant women and those who have

been, or are, under a doctor's supervision for thyroid disease, have

had previous iodine deficiency and have nodular goiter.

>

> In addition, pregnant and breast feeding women need to exercise

caution as the fetus and nursing newborns are also highly susceptible

to the adverse effects of excess iodine.

>

> Individuals taking amiodarone, a prescription drug for treating

disorders of heart rhythm as well as those exposed to iodine

containing radiocontrast agents, may also be at increased risk if

they ingest these two Seavite products concurrently.

>

> The recommended daily allowance for iodine ranges from 90

micrograms (0.09 milligrams) per day for children aged 1-8 years to

150 micrograms (0.15 milligrams) per day for adults.

>

> Chuck

>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

Sam,

You wrote:

> Chuck, this is yet another example of crying " Wolff-Chaikoff " .

>

That was not at all the issue. Gracia said there wasn't enough iodine in kelp to

either help or harm. However, some of those products contain up to 8 mg per GRAM

of supplement. That means you can get comparable doses to Optimox, for good or

ill.

Chuck

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

Actually, Chuck, the issue was your sending of that Canadian alert

about iodine. Interestingly enough, I can purchase Lugol's Solution

over the counter in Canada without any warnings or alarm bells going

off.

The bottle of kelp extract I have says " may contain " and there is a

list of possible trace amounts of a number of things including arsenic.

I don't believe Lugol's Solution or Iodoral can make that claim.

Sam

>

> > Chuck, this is yet another example of crying " Wolff-Chaikoff " .

> >

>

> That was not at all the issue. Gracia said there wasn't enough iodine

in kelp to either help or harm. However, some of those products contain

up to 8 mg per GRAM of supplement. That means you can get comparable

doses to Optimox, for good or ill.

>

> Chuck

>

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest guest

thanks for posting this. I think it is dangerous misinformation, although low

doses in iodine deficient ppl can cause probs. the solution is not to throw the

baby out with the bath water, but to treat the deficiency correctly. think of

Albert Szent-Gyorgy!

Gracia

Gracia,

You wrote:

>

> kelp is not going to give you too much iodine!

It has been documented to give you enough to trigger Hashi's antibodies. In

fact, the Canadian government required a warning label to that effect fairly

recently.

Here is a May 15 bulletin from the Canada Vigilance Program

of the Marketed Health Products Directorate:

OTTAWA, ONTARIO--(Marketwire - May 15, 2008) - Health Canada is warning

consumers not to use the natural health product Trophic Kelp & Glutamic Acid HCl

due to the health risk posed by exposure to high levels of iodine. Women who are

pregnant or breastfeeding, and individuals with thyroid disease such as Graves'

disease are particularly at risk.

Excessive iodine exposure can result in an enlarged thyroid and may cause

either hypothyroidism (underactive thyroid disease) or hyperthyroidism

(overactive thyroid disease) in susceptible individuals. Symptoms of

hypothyroidism include weight gain, joint or muscle pain, fatigue, weakness,

depression, increased sensitivity to cold, and abnormal menstrual cycles. Over

time, untreated hypothyroidism may lead to infertility and heart disease.

Hyperthyroidism symptoms include sudden weight loss, rapid or irregular

heartbeat, increased sensitivity to heat, sweating, nervousness or irritability.

Stroke is one of the most serious complications of hyperthyroidism.

Unborn babies are very sensitive to high levels of iodine and may be born with

an enlarged thyroid. Significant swelling of the thyroid could compress the

baby's windpipe and interfere with breathing. As well, high levels of iodine in

individuals with thyroid disease such as Graves' disease may reduce the

effectiveness of antithyroid medications.

Health Canada cautions consumers, especially women who are pregnant or

breastfeeding, individuals with thyroid disease such as Graves' disease or

individuals with previous iodine deficiencies, to be aware that kelp products

contain iodine, and advises them to consult their health care practitioners

prior to taking these products.

Here is the earlier warning from 2003 which involved the recall of two kelp

products:

Health Alert

Health Canada advises against use of Seavite products containing iodine

May 9, 2003

Health Canada is advising consumers not to use Seavite Premium Atlantic Kelp

Blend and Seavite Premium Atlantic Kelp Tablets.

These products, when consumed according to the instructions on the label, can

provide 25 times the recommended daily allowance (RDA) per day of iodine for

adults, and could lead to serious health consequences. These consequences are

particularly noted in individuals with disorders of the thyroid gland, for

pregnant women themselves as well as for their fetus, for the newborn of

breastfeeding women, and for children of all ages.

There have been three reports of serious adverse events, one of which required

hospitalization, that have been attributed to the use of these two Seavite

products.

Both products have been recalled by the manufacturer, Newfoundland Aqua

Products Inc.

While iodine is necessary to ensure the healthy functioning of the thyroid

gland, excessive iodine intake can lead to thyroid disorders, which can lead to

heart problems. Excess iodine intake can manifest itself as either an under - or

over-active thyroid. Consumers who have concerns should consult their health

care provider.

Individuals especially sensitive to the toxic effects of excess iodine are

children of all ages, pregnant women and those who have been, or are, under a

doctor's supervision for thyroid disease, have had previous iodine deficiency

and have nodular goiter.

In addition, pregnant and breast feeding women need to exercise caution as the

fetus and nursing newborns are also highly susceptible to the adverse effects of

excess iodine.

Individuals taking amiodarone, a prescription drug for treating disorders of

heart rhythm as well as those exposed to iodine containing radiocontrast agents,

may also be at increased risk if they ingest these two Seavite products

concurrently.

The recommended daily allowance for iodine ranges from 90 micrograms (0.09

milligrams) per day for children aged 1-8 years to 150 micrograms (0.15

milligrams) per day for adults.

Chuck

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
×
  • Create New...