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We are using Myoplex Carbsense mixed berry for a clear supplement. We also use

isopure and for tube feedings we use pivot 1.5 by ross. All products are

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Protein supplement

Hello all,

Currently at the hospital that I am employed, there is no specific

protein supplement on the formulary specialized for post op bariatric

surgery patients. We do carry a " sugar free " shake, however it is

calorically dense and not nearly high enough in protein to meet the

needs of our patients, thus is not an appropriate choice. We also

have protein powder but is not very well recepted in the quantity

that a post sx patient would require.

We are in the process of evaluating the " need " for a more

specialized supplement to add to the formulary for post op bariatric

surgery patients such as Optisource.

I am writing to inquire how many facilities are indeed using a

bariatric specific protein supplement? If so, which one? How is it

working out?

Thanks in advance!

Lacasse, RD, CD-N

Saint Francis Hospital & Medical Center

Hartford, CT

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We use Optisource from Novartis. Most patients seem to like it very well.

Anyone who is on a full liquid or greater gets one TID.

J. Sams MS RD/LD

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>

>Subject: Protein supplement

>Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 13:01:07 -0000

>

>

>Hello all,

> Currently at the hospital that I am employed, there is no specific

>protein supplement on the formulary specialized for post op bariatric

>surgery patients. We do carry a " sugar free " shake, however it is

>calorically dense and not nearly high enough in protein to meet the

>needs of our patients, thus is not an appropriate choice. We also

>have protein powder but is not very well recepted in the quantity

>that a post sx patient would require.

> We are in the process of evaluating the " need " for a more

>specialized supplement to add to the formulary for post op bariatric

>surgery patients such as Optisource.

> I am writing to inquire how many facilities are indeed using a

>bariatric specific protein supplement? If so, which one? How is it

>working out?

>

>

>Thanks in advance!

>

> Lacasse, RD, CD-N

>Saint Francis Hospital & Medical Center

>Hartford, CT

>

>

>

>

>

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I thought they were not making it anymore? Our rep said the company that boxed

it went out of business. I love it!

Gardache MPH LDN RD

West Jefferson Medical Center

1101 Medical Center Blvd

Marrero, LA 70076

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From: Sams [mailto:jenniferjsams@...]

Sent: Tue 12/28/2004 11:30 AM

Subject: RE: Protein supplement

We use Optisource from Novartis. Most patients seem to like it very well.

Anyone who is on a full liquid or greater gets one TID.

J. Sams MS RD/LD

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>Subject: Protein supplement

>Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 13:01:07 -0000

>

>

>Hello all,

> Currently at the hospital that I am employed, there is no specific

>protein supplement on the formulary specialized for post op bariatric

>surgery patients. We do carry a " sugar free " shake, however it is

>calorically dense and not nearly high enough in protein to meet the

>needs of our patients, thus is not an appropriate choice. We also

>have protein powder but is not very well recepted in the quantity

>that a post sx patient would require.

> We are in the process of evaluating the " need " for a more

>specialized supplement to add to the formulary for post op bariatric

>surgery patients such as Optisource.

> I am writing to inquire how many facilities are indeed using a

>bariatric specific protein supplement? If so, which one? How is it

>working out?

>

>

>Thanks in advance!

>

> Lacasse, RD, CD-N

>Saint Francis Hospital & Medical Center

>Hartford, CT

>

>

>

>

>

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We use unjury. Web site is unjury.com.

Three flavors vanilla, chocolate and unflavored. Can add the unflavored to full

liquid soups to avoid the taste fatigue with having just the vanilla or chocolate.

Thanks

Leanne Littrell, MS,

RD, LD

Director of Nutrition

Services

Bon Secours St. ph

Hospital

Port Charlotte, FL

941-766-4228

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Protein supplement

>Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 13:01:07 -0000

>

>

>Hello all,

> Currently at the hospital

that I am employed, there is no specific

>protein supplement on the formulary

specialized for post op bariatric

>surgery patients. We do carry a

" sugar free " shake, however it is

>calorically dense and not nearly high enough

in protein to meet the

>needs of our patients, thus is not an

appropriate choice. We also

>have protein powder but is not very well

recepted in the quantity

>that a post sx patient would require.

> We are in the process of

evaluating the " need " for a more

>specialized supplement to add to the formulary

for post op bariatric

>surgery patients such as Optisource.

> I am writing to

inquire how many facilities are indeed using a

>bariatric specific protein supplement?

If so, which one? How is it

>working out?

>

>

>Thanks in advance!

>

> Lacasse, RD, CD-N

>Saint Francis Hospital & Medical Center

>Hartford, CT

>

>

>

>

>

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Is Optisource back on the market?

Protein supplement>Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 13:01:07 -0000>>>Hello all,> Currently at the hospital that I am employed, there is no specific>protein supplement on the formulary specialized for post op bariatric>surgery patients. We do carry a "sugar free" shake, however it is>calorically dense and not nearly high enough in protein to meet the>needs of our patients, thus is not an appropriate choice. We also>have protein powder but is not very well recepted in the quantity>that a post sx patient would require.> We are in the process of evaluating the "need" for a more>specialized supplement to add to the formulary for post op bariatric>surgery patients such as Optisource.> I am writing to inquire how many facilities are indeed using a>bariatric specific protein supplement? If so, which one? How is it>working out?>>>Thanks in advance!>> Lacasse, RD, CD-N>Saint Francis Hospital & Medical Center>Hartford, CT>>>>>

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I don’t know if it is back on the

market but I just found out that Novartis and Bariatric Advantage just joined

companies.

Beth Whelan, MS,RD,LD

Outpatient Dietitian

Harbin Clinic

office: (706) 378-8163

fax: (706) 238-8037

Protein supplement

>Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 13:01:07 -0000

>

>

>Hello all,

> Currently at the hospital

that I am employed, there is no specific

>protein supplement on the formulary

specialized for post op bariatric

>surgery patients. We do carry a

" sugar free " shake, however it is

>calorically dense and not nearly high enough

in protein to meet the

>needs of our patients, thus is not an appropriate

choice. We also

>have protein powder but is not very well

recepted in the quantity

>that a post sx patient would require.

> We are in the process of

evaluating the " need " for a more

>specialized supplement to add to the formulary

for post op bariatric

>surgery patients such as Optisource.

> I am writing to

inquire how many facilities are indeed using a

>bariatric specific protein supplement?

If so, which one? How is it

>working out?

>

>

>Thanks in advance!

>

> Lacasse, RD, CD-N

>Saint Francis Hospital & Medical Center

>Hartford, CT

>

>

>

>

>

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Hello!

I had asked if anyone had a reference for how much protein can be absorbed in

one sitting. - because there are several protein supplements that claim to have

upwards of 25 g of protein per serving. I had learned that the general

guideline was 30 g in one sitting, but haven't been able to find a reputable

source for this and I never got a response when I posted the question a few

weeks ago.

So I'm still interested if anyone has a good reference for how much protein can

be absorbed in one sitting.

Thank you!

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protein supplement

Hello!

I was recently asked by a patient regarding a favorite

protein powder supplement and also my opinion of the

liquid protein supplements that are now available.

Any favorite powdered protein supplements that

you/patients have used?

I remember on the listserve there being a question of

how much protein you can absorb at once as some of

these liquid protein powders are 42 grams of protein

in less than 3 oz servings.

Thanks for your responses!

LRD

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> >>> steelesmiley@ <mailto:steelesmiley%40> 8/23/2007

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Most sources say that humans can absorb only 30 g/time; athletes

and body builders can absorb more. How that applies to RNY pts.,

however, is undocumented from what I've been able to tell. We

recommend no more than 30 g HYDROLIZED WHEY protein per shake.

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Thank you, Steve for the protein absorption answer!

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Re: protein supplement

Most sources say that humans can absorb only 30 g/time; athletes

and body builders can absorb more. How that applies to RNY pts.,

however, is undocumented from what I've been able to tell. We

recommend no more than 30 g HYDROLIZED WHEY protein per shake.

Steve Huntington,PhD, RD, LD

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> > Here is a handout, but it is just a collection of

> > recipes I found on the

> > internet, not info on protein supplements.

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> > give to patients?

> > I hate to reinvent the wheel. Thanks for your help

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I have also heard about 3-4 oz. meat (21-28 gm protein) is the most absorbed at

one time (No good reference to back it up- this is just what I learned in

school.) As far as the liquid drinks, most of my patients consume them over the

course of a day, so even if the supplement has 40 gm of protein, I believe it is

consumed slowly enough to be absorbed. Just my 2 cents- Cheryl

>>> <danaeswilley@...> 9/6/2007 6:02 pm >>>

Hello!

I had asked if anyone had a reference for how much protein can be absorbed in

one sitting. - because there are several protein supplements that claim to have

upwards of 25 g of protein per serving. I had learned that the general

guideline was 30 g in one sitting, but haven't been able to find a reputable

source for this and I never got a response when I posted the question a few

weeks ago.

So I'm still interested if anyone has a good reference for how much protein can

be absorbed in one sitting.

Thank you!

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protein supplement

Hello!

I was recently asked by a patient regarding a favorite

protein powder supplement and also my opinion of the

liquid protein supplements that are now available.

Any favorite powdered protein supplements that

you/patients have used?

I remember on the listserve there being a question of

how much protein you can absorb at once as some of

these liquid protein powders are 42 grams of protein

in less than 3 oz servings.

Thanks for your responses!

LRD

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12:04:25 PM >>>

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Please supply research to support this

position. The average diet contains more total protein than what is suggested.

I find nothing in any of my nutrition and metabolism books that suggest

this is true. In fact they state, " almost all protein is absorbed

by the time it reaches the end of the jejunum, and only 1% of ingested

protein is found in the feces. " We are called to practice research

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Dear Rita,

May I please have the citation for the book you mention. I am covering

this very topic in my Thesis Study: Patient Knowledge of Nutrition

Care After Gastric Bypass (www.nutritionknowledgesurvey.com)

The research and data I have regarding the topic is very interesting.

I would like to add that reference citation and quote as it is in line

with my findings. I would share what I have found, but I am not sure

if I can do that until after my thesis is submitted. I'll ask my

thesis advisor.

Thank you for you help

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> > Hello!

> > I had asked if anyone had a reference for how much protein can be

> absorbed in one sitting. - because there are several protein

> supplements that claim to have upwards of 25 g of protein per

> serving. I had learned that the general guideline was 30 g in one

> sitting, but haven't been able to find a reputable source for this

> and I never got a response when I posted the question a few weeks

> ago.

> > So I'm still interested if anyone has a good reference for how

> much protein can be absorbed in one sitting.

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Perhaps " absorption " is a poor word choice. We all know that there is no stored

form of protein in the body, just stored fat. I'm attempting to give an

evidence- based guideline to my patients on the amount of protein that can

effectively be used by the body in one sitting/one meal.

I realize that there will be differences in individuals based on gender and

athleticisim, etc.

I greatly appreciate everyone's input! There's a lot of great minds in this

group and I've learned a lot.

Thank you.

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

Re: Re: protein supplement

Please supply research to support this position. The average diet contains more

total protein than what is suggested. I find nothing in any of my nutrition and

metabolism books that suggest this is true. In fact they state, " almost all

protein is absorbed by the time it reaches the end of the jejunum, and only 1%

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Most sources say that humans can absorb only 30 g/time; athletes

and body builders can absorb more. How that applies to RNY pts.,

however, is undocumented from what I've been able to tell. We

recommend no more than 30 g HYDROLIZED WHEY protein per shake.

Steve Huntington,PhD, RD, LD

>

> > Here is a handout, but it is just a collection of

> > recipes I found on the

> > internet, not info on protein supplements.

> >

> > Hosier, RD, LD

> > Clinical Dietitian

> > Member ASBS www.asbs.org

> > St. Luke's Regional Medical Center

> > 381-1519

> >

> >

> >

> > >>> steelesmiley@ <mailto:steelesmiley%40>

8/23/2007 12:04:25 PM >>>

> > Does everyone have a handout about protein shakes to

> > give to patients?

> > I hate to reinvent the wheel. Thanks for your help

> > in advance!

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I'd also appreciate having a citation that addresses protein and fat

absorption specifically in RNY patients.

Thanks,

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I am heading out of town to do a show for 2 and a half months. I'll be able

to have lot's of " me time " , which I am looking forward to having! I would

like to find a good protein supplement to take with me and wanted to get

people's suggestions as to which ones you like or have heard good things about.

Thanks!

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what kind of show? circus? song and dance? I don't know about protein

supplement :)

Gracia

I am heading out of town to do a show for 2 and a half months. I'll be able

to have lot's of " me time " , which I am looking forward to having! I would

like to find a good protein supplement to take with me and wanted to get

people's suggestions as to which ones you like or have heard good things

about.

Thanks!

AJ

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http://www.beyondprobiotics.net/fucoproteinbars.htm THESE ARE WONDERFUL!!!!!

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-- Protein Supplement

I am heading out of town to do a show for 2 and a half months. I'll be able

to have lot's of " me time " , which I am looking forward to having! I would

like to find a good protein supplement to take with me and wanted to get

people's suggestions as to which ones you like or have heard good things

about.

Thanks!

AJ

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I would also be interested in any information available.

Kendra Blaschke, MS, RD, LD

Citizens Bariatric Center

, TX

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> I am a registered dietitian new to the list serve looking to get some

good info about recommended protein supplements with a good PDCAA score.  In

doing some searching on the list serve it appears that a list of supplements has

been developed.  If this is correct, would someone be willing to share that

information?  I am concerned that I have been recommending products that may not

be as complete as I had once thought.  Thank you in advance for you time.

>

> Lynn Holum LRD,CDE

> Altru Health System

> Grand Forks, ND

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