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Lynda,

Maybe you planted a seed in the minds of anyone who might be skeptical!! That's about all you can do.

I, too, believe that many people have just lost hope and are being led by whomever. I choose to believe that a higher power who is much smarter than myself has led me to LDN and that it is a good thing!

Keep spreading the word! If you help one person it is worth it!!

Marcie

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THANK YOU ALL who have responded to my email. It is sort of like being part

of an underground organization. I want to believe that truth will win out

about LDN, but sometimes when I feel the political climate, I have this

vague paranoia that not only will they not recognize the benefits, but the

great greedy THEY will make it hard to get. I am not usually this doubtful,

and I guess I am very attached to Naltraxone and don't want anyone to tell

me I can't take it!!!! These are strange times. Blessings on us all, and

thank you for being there.

Lynda

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Lynda,

You are 100% right. At this point the success of those of us with LDN will have to suffice. Unfortunately, "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink". Eventually the word will get out.

Regards,

Tom

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I call this the "If it sounds too good to be true it probably is Syndrome" It is just too bad that many of us in the past have had real life experiences with M.L.M get rich quick schemes and fad diets etc. ( you all know of which I speak) So many are around that when I tell someone how L.D.N. has improved me and they see my cane of course they will be sceptical. But they didn't see me last year in that wheelchair, so how can they know?

I have already gone thru the save the world from this disease stage and now rely on what I read here to support me, otherwise I might believe it is all in my head. It isn't right?

With my progressive type the doctor only wants me out of his office, so whatever it takes is good by him, By the way my fingernail growth is about 30 percent faster.Reg

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-------Original Message-------

From: low dose naltrexone

Date: 02/11/04 10:27:27

low dose naltrexone

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] talking about LDN

Hello everyone.

I need a little supportive feedback. Yesterday was my monthly MS support group. I was excited about sharing my LDN experience, which has been like a miracle for me. The 10 others with MS were interested in hearing my story. I told them

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Lynda, I, we, are banging our heads against that same wall.

I'm experienced in antibiotics, food, allergies and now more and

more LDN. But who listens? Nobody does, unless they are told by a

doctor. So few ppl are eiger to do their own studies and/or

experiment. And even if you do so, like my group and me, the doctors

just nod their heads and say; if it works for you... But actually do

something with the tons of experience of the patients self? No! I

frustrates me. That is the reason I never attend a support group,

its banging against a wall. Sometimes it looks like patients rather

complain then do something to help themselfs.

Thats the great thing about this group, yohoo LDNners;o) Let us keep

on spreading the good (and some bad, be realistic) things about LDN.

Maybe if we keep on talking, we'll get it through. Although that

would be very hard working here in Holland. Thank the Lord I know

more LDN users here. Unfortunatly their experiences are not all

good. I blame that on Nalorex, but who am I?;o))

Chey

> What I learned is that people are so tied in to the

medical/pharmaceutical corporate mythology, that they have a hard

time thinking for themselves, or seeing the obvious, which is that

the doctors don't know and are dependent on the manipulation of

statistics by drug companies. SO, I am now eager to have 'studies'

done, so that more wretched beings can get the help LDN offers. It

seems like the only way to get attention is to get someone to get

statistics for us. People just aren't going to trust the reports of

friends, especially if they can't even trust their own experience.

>

> I felt pretty glum after group. Maybe people have just tried so

many things that they have lost hope, and just stick with the

doctors out of desperation. I want better things for all of us.

How can we get studies done?

>

> Lynda

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I agree that it is extremely frustrating to try to get people to listen

seriously about the benefits of LDN. If it was expensive, it would be

easier to accept that people won't listen.

I can't even get my wife to try it for her fibromyalgia. I think she would

rather complain about how she feels. However, she doesn't complain to me as

much as she used to since I told her I didn't want to hear her complaints

now that there is something available that will help her that she refuses to

take.

Noland

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Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 2:06 PM

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: talking about LDN

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> Lynda, I, we, are banging our heads against that same wall.

> I'm experienced in antibiotics, food, allergies and now more and

> more LDN. But who listens? Nobody does, unless they are told by a

> doctor. So few ppl are eiger to do their own studies and/or

> experiment. And even if you do so, like my group and me, the doctors

> just nod their heads and say; if it works for you... But actually do

> something with the tons of experience of the patients self? No! I

> frustrates me. That is the reason I never attend a support group,

> its banging against a wall. Sometimes it looks like patients rather

> complain then do something to help themselfs.

>

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Hi Noland,

It seems like we have one more thing to add to the list of subjects

not to be brought up at a party.....Religion, Politics, and now

LDN...lol

Love, Sally

" Noland R. Durnell, P.E. " wrote:

> I agree that it is extremely frustrating to try to get people to

listen seriously about the benefits of LDN. If it was expensive, it

would be easier to accept that people won't listen.

>

I can't even get my wife to try it for her fibromyalgia. I think

she would rather complain about how she feels. However, she doesn't

complain to me as much as she used to since I told her I didn't want

to hear her complaints now that there is something available that

will help her that she refuses to

take.

>

Noland

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Lynda,

I totally understand your disappointment, I've been down that road

myself. I tell everyone I know about ldn, but that's usually because

THEY ask ME. I live in a very small town (800 people) and people

noticed how much better I was and asked what happened, and they were

all totally amazed. My best friend came to visit me one weekend, and

when he went home he told everyone he knows about it, and gave out my

phone number lol. I was amazed at how many people he knew with MS,

but one by one they all called and asked questions. It got to the

point that when the phone rang, and if it was an unfamiliar number on

the call display, my husband would just hand me the phone and

say " ldn call " lol. It was easy to talk to these people because they

WANTED to hear about it. It's a different story in your case with

your MS support group. You have planted a seed tho, and I'm sure

every single one of those people will be thinking about ldn, and

possibly even be researching it.

I must admit that I myself was one of those " it sounds too good to be

true, so it probably is " people in the beginning. I kept on

researching it tho, and finally realized that nobody had anything to

gain by telling people how well they were doing on it. Nobody was

selling anything, they were just sharing their experiences with ldn,

and wanted to pass on the good news. Besides, I would have done

almost anything to get off the Rebif injections. Ldn was the best

decision I ever made, and I've never looked back (just don't go into

a tanning bed if you have ms, ldn can only do so much lol)

What I wanted to tell you about was my frustration with another good

friend of mine. She has had MS for 18 years, and has been in a

wheelchair for about 3. She seen for herself what a differece ldn

made for me, yet she wouldn't even try it. She was not on any kind

of medication, so I kept thinking that she had nothing to lose, but

there was no way she would try it. My hubby and her hubby and I had

a long chat, and all agreed that she had given up and was letting the

MS take over her life. We were all sooooo frustrated, but what can

you do? She is a very stubborn and bull headed woman. The day before

yesterday she called me and asked me how I got my prescription!!!! I

was in total shock. She told me that she had been thinking, and

realized that she was letting the MS take over her life , and that it

was time to do something about it. That was step one, now she just

has to stick with it....she is also not a patient woman lol. I just

told her to keep on taking it, and not to give up, and she assured me

that she wouldn't, I'm soooooo happy.

So Lynda, don't give up on these people that don't listen, if my

friend Deb will finally come around (they don't come any more

stubborn than her)I'm sure that you'll get at least some of your

support group to try it. If not, then at least be happy that you

made an awesome decision for yourself! :)

Kerry

" Lynda Phelps " <padma108@c...> wrote:

> Hello everyone.

>

> I need a little supportive feedback. Yesterday was my monthly MS

support group. I was excited about sharing my LDN experience, which

has been like a miracle for me. The 10 others with MS were

interested in hearing my story. I told them that I had now been able

to go off of ALL my other MS prescriptions (except for thyroid).

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