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Guest guest Posted March 20, 2004 Report Share Posted March 20, 2004 Hi I would like to know if somebody try Méthylcobalamin ( neurologically active vitamin B12). soniaMSN Messenger : discutez en direct avec vos amis ! Cliquez-ici Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2004 Report Share Posted March 20, 2004 I have been taking Methylcobalimin for quite some time now, but what I read a little while ago claims you need 50 mgs or more a day for us with M.S. My pills which are quite sweet and easy to take are only 5.mgs so I need to eat ten a day according to the naturopathic magazine article I read. At 23.00 a bottle of fifty pills......... well you do the math . I want to get some Dr. to give me an injection or something but then Meth. will leave your system very rapidly according to the write up. So I guess I will just keep eating the three a day I am doing now it sure can't hurt,and tastes good too. If you want to know if anything has improved................ well my outlook on life is sure good! Reg. -------Original Message------- From: low dose naltrexone Date: 03/20/04 11:15:29 low dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Methylcobalamin Hi I would like to know if somebody try Méthylcobalamin ( neurologically active vitamin B12). sonia MSN Messenger : discutez en direct avec vos amis ! Cliquez-ici ____________________________________________________ IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2004 Report Share Posted March 21, 2004 How much of the Cyno do you inject every week? My GP told me to inject once a month (He didn't know I have M.S. at that time) I also take the Methylcobalamin. Marjorie. --- In low dose naltrexone , Trapper <trleslie7@y...> wrote: > There are two types of B12 methycobalimin and cynocobalimin. I take > both- the cyno i give myself an injection every week ( which is easy > and not painful) and i take the 50 mg every day. It is expensive but i > have no fatigue problems at all. Whether that is why i don't know but i > follow my homeopath's recommendation > > Hope that helps > TL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2004 Report Share Posted March 21, 2004 Hi I inject 1ml per week, i originally was prescribed that by my GP but i kind of told her that i was planning to do that after reading the Judy Graham book. Somebody mentioned that it was painful but in my personal experience there is almost no pain at all. The more i do it and figure out the best way to do it, at times i don't even feel the needle going in. I of course could just be a little odd though, TL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2004 Report Share Posted March 21, 2004 Okay one more time for the slow... daily injections of Methylcobalamin, 50 mgs weekly injections of cynocobalimin.? or is the first one pills? thanks for the repeat and your patience Peace, ZilNever give up, never surrender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2004 Report Share Posted March 21, 2004 On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 06:22:32 EST, you wrote: >Okay one more time for the slow... >daily injections of Methylcobalamin, 50 mgs >weekly injections of cynocobalimin.? >or is the first one pills? thanks for the repeat and your patience Methylcobalamin pills are sublingual. Cynocobalimin and Hydroxocobalimin are by injection. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2004 Report Share Posted March 21, 2004 Here are the facts: Methylcobalamin: is oral (though other routes may be possible). Cyanocobalamin: can be a nasal gel, oral or injection. Most docs use cyanocobalamin. Yash > > >Okay one more time for the slow... > >daily injections of Methylcobalamin, 50 mgs > >weekly injections of cynocobalimin.? > >or is the first one pills? thanks for the repeat and your patience > > Methylcobalamin pills are sublingual. Cynocobalimin and > Hydroxocobalimin are by injection. > > Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2004 Report Share Posted March 21, 2004 Where do you inject yourself? I keep forgetting to ask my wife to give me an injection before she goes to bed so have been thinking of doing it myself. Actually did try once in the thigh and ended up giving myself a decent bruise, although the injection itself didn't really hurt. Trapper wrote: > There are two types of B12 methycobalimin and cynocobalimin. I take > both- the cyno i give myself an injection every week ( which is easy > and not painful) and i take the 50 mg every day. It is expensive but i > have no fatigue problems at all. Whether that is why i don't know but i > follow my homeopath's recommendation > > Hope that helps > TL -- . ,-._|\ Covington / Oz \ \_,--.x/ v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Dear Four days on cyancobalmin have turned my brainfog around significantly. Such that a week ago I had over 2000 unread e-mails, yesterday and today I have reduced the backlog to about 1000 and have actually dealt with the current incoming by actually posting replies. Regards Windsor [infections] Methylcobalamin I have included in many of my past posts about the severe brain fog I am suffering. It has now become so bad that I simply do not post anymore. My communications skills are suffering terribly.It has recently been suggested that I try some Methylcobalamin. Does anyone have any experience with this for memory as well as energy levels?Thanks in advance for any and all info.- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Our own experience in dealing with brain fog has been thru the use of Piracetam as the fastest acting. Other items that are effective for us are: grape seed extract (same effect as aspirin but not the bleeding risk) and time-release niacin (or regular flushing niacin if you can handle the flush). All of these items impact **different** aspects of coagulation. Ken Lassesen, From: Windsor [mailto:rwindsor@...] Dear Four days on cyancobalmin have turned my brainfog around significantly. Such that a week ago I had over 2000 unread e-mails, yesterday and today I have reduced the backlog to about 1000 and have actually dealt with the current incoming by actually posting replies. Regards Windsor [infections] Methylcobalamin I have included in many of my past posts about the severe brain fog I am suffering. It has now become so bad that I simply do not post anymore. My communications skills are suffering terribly. It has recently been suggested that I try some Methylcobalamin. Does anyone have any experience with this for memory as well as energy levels? Thanks in advance for any and all info. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 GREETINGs, I had been on B12 shots for about four years with folic acid I ave them to myelf two to three times per week,and still my blood levels of B12 would be low. A year ago an alternative doctor told me two things of interest. He said that we do not absorb on cyancobalmin B12 very well and to try Methylcobalamin B12. i bought a product sublingual at the health food store called Methyl-B12. About three months later I was reviewing my blood work and noted that my B12 was 12 times higher than the norm. Of course I cut my dose, but found it satisfying that something was at least doing its job. this dotor alsosaidtat glutathione should be supplemeted through a push because it can't make it through the stomach acids. I have not followed up on that advice as he was too far for me to continue to see him. Nellie if you read this, I " M GING O try a DHEA that is liquid. I am changing as many things as possible to liquid form. can I email you the link? I'm studying Vassopressin now. Peg > Our own experience in dealing with brain fog has been thru the use of > Piracetam as the fastest acting. Other items that are effective for us are: > grape seed extract (same effect as aspirin but not the bleeding risk) and > time-release niacin (or regular flushing niacin if you can handle the > flush). > > > > All of these items impact **different** aspects of coagulation. > > > > Ken Lassesen, > > > _____ > > From: Windsor [mailto:rwindsor@a...] > > > > > > Dear > > Four days on cyancobalmin have turned my brainfog around significantly. Such > that a week ago I had over 2000 unread e-mails, yesterday and today I have > reduced the backlog to about 1000 and have actually dealt with the current > incoming by actually posting replies. > > Regards > > Windsor > > [infections] Methylcobalamin > > > > > I have included in many of my past posts about the severe brain fog > I am suffering. > It has now become so bad that I simply do not post anymore. My > communications skills are suffering terribly. > It has recently been suggested that I try some Methylcobalamin. Does > anyone have any experience with this for memory as well as energy > levels? > Thanks in advance for any and all info. > - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Dear Ken Interestingly I tried Piracetam and Hydergine some years back and failed to notice any benefits. I suspect that I have become more attuned to the subtle changes I am now observing. Regards Windsor [infections] Methylcobalamin I have included in many of my past posts about the severe brain fog I am suffering. It has now become so bad that I simply do not post anymore. My communications skills are suffering terribly.It has recently been suggested that I try some Methylcobalamin. Does anyone have any experience with this for memory as well as energy levels?Thanks in advance for any and all info.- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Yes, thanks Peg, I wouldn't mind the name/brand of the liquid methylcobalamine you used (or anything else you found useful) it's a jungle out there and having to order everything at once, once a year when my husband goes to America is very stressful. We always end up with loads of stuff we don't take and wishing we had ordered smthng else. So any suggestions welcome re stuff that have unquestionably been useful. We are already ordering Jarrodophilus (probiotics-large 1 kg jar that we keep in freezer), silymarine (jarrows), DHA-EFA (jarrows) and artemisinin from allergy research, we will probably also order some more nattokinase. We have an all purpose vitamin/mineral powder which is lasting forever (Sparx) we keep open can in the freezer too. We used ImmunePro to raise glutathione, can't decide whether to buy some more, we also take TF (regular from 4 life). Don't know if any of it works or not. Anyone have any opinions re propolis, brand, quality dosages etc? Any comments welcome. thanks Nelly (in France) [infections] Re: Methylcobalamin GREETINGs,I had been on B12 shots for about four years with folic acid I ave them to myelf two to three times per week,and still my blood levels of B12 would be low. A year ago an alternative doctor told me two things of interest. He said that we do not absorb on cyancobalmin B12 very well and to try Methylcobalamin B12. i bought a product sublingual at the health food store called Methyl-B12. About three months later I was reviewing my blood work and noted that my B12 was 12 times higher than the norm. Of course I cut my dose, but found it satisfying that something was at least doing its job. this dotor alsosaidtat glutathione should be supplemeted through a push because it can't make it through the stomach acids. I have not followed up on that advice as he was too far for me to continue to see him. Nellie if you read this, I"M GING O try a DHEA that is liquid. I am changing as many things as possible to liquid form. can I email you the link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Im doing high doses with great success > I have included in many of my past posts about the severe brain fog > I am suffering. > It has now become so bad that I simply do not post anymore. My > communications skills are suffering terribly. > It has recently been suggested that I try some Methylcobalamin. Does > anyone have any experience with this for memory as well as energy > levels? > Thanks in advance for any and all info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 glade to here it is getting about, I am doing 2-3 * 1000mcg per day b12. with folic acid 5-mg. also potassium, liquorice and salt. I doing much better with it. > Dear > Four days on cyancobalmin have turned my brainfog around > significantly. Such that a week ago I had over 2000 unread e-mails, > yesterday and today I have reduced the backlog to about 1000 and have > actually dealt with the current incoming by actually posting replies. > Regards > Windsor > [infections] Methylcobalamin > > > I have included in many of my past posts about the severe brain fog > I am suffering. > It has now become so bad that I simply do not post anymore. My > communications skills are suffering terribly. > It has recently been suggested that I try some Methylcobalamin. Does > anyone have any experience with this for memory as well as energy > levels? > Thanks in advance for any and all info. > - > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 not allowed in Europe > Piracetam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 I got it in France in generic form from a normal pharmacy (chemist) without a script. BTW, There is no such a thing called "Europe" when it comes to drugs, every country is different. Nelly Re: [infections] Methylcobalamin not allowed in Europe Piracetam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Peg I too used sublingual methyl B12 since my blood levels of B12 were fine and my GP did not want to Rx the injections. I used it alongside two antioxidants that cross the BBB, one of them was the grape seed extract Ken mentioned. To begin with my constant head pains got worse, then they started to improve and actually went away for a while, and only returned more recently as a result of herxing. Prior to that if I did not take the methyl B12 for a while these pains came back. It did not do anything for my brain fog though. Tansy > > > > GREETINGs, > I had been on B12 shots for about four years with folic acid I ave > them to myelf two to three times per week,and still my blood levels > of B12 would be low. > A year ago an alternative doctor told me two things of interest. He > said that we do not absorb on cyancobalmin B12 very well and to try > Methylcobalamin B12. i bought a product sublingual at the health > food store called Methyl-B12. About three months later I was > reviewing my blood work and noted that my B12 was 12 times higher > than the norm. Of course I cut my dose, but found it satisfying that > something was at least doing its job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Hi Nelly I have used various types of propolis and I think the only one of any real value is the raw (unheated) tincture obtained from specialist bee keepers who make unheated royal jelly and honey products. I order from an apiary here in the UK but I expect France must have similar producers [infections] Re: Methylcobalamin GREETINGs,I had been on B12 shots for about four years with folic acid I ave them to myelf two to three times per week,and still my blood levels of B12 would be low. A year ago an alternative doctor told me two things of interest. He said that we do not absorb on cyancobalmin B12 very well and to try Methylcobalamin B12. i bought a product sublingual at the health food store called Methyl-B12. About three months later I was reviewing my blood work and noted that my B12 was 12 times higher than the norm. Of course I cut my dose, but found it satisfying that something was at least doing its job. this dotor alsosaidtat glutathione should be supplemeted through a push because it can't make it through the stomach acids. I have not followed up on that advice as he was too far for me to continue to see him. Nellie if you read this, I"M GING O try a DHEA that is liquid. I am changing as many things as possible to liquid form. can I email you the link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 Excuse me --- we get ours from the Czech Republic for the last 5 years – it is over the counter there… Manufactured in Germany. See http://lassesen.com/cfids/supplements/ordering_piracetam.htm Ken Lassesen, From: Colourbleu [mailto:colourbleu@...] not allowed in Europe Piracetam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2005 Report Share Posted March 12, 2005 The majority of the people (including several ‘healthy normal’ work colleagues) notice benefits. Since it mechanism is coagulation, that suggests that either coagulation is not involved or different coagulation elements are involved. As is typical, mileage is different for everyone/ Ken Lassesen, From: Windsor [mailto:rwindsor@...] Dear Ken Interestingly I tried Piracetam and Hydergine some years back and failed to notice any benefits. I suspect that I have become more attuned to the subtle changes I am now observing. Regards Windsor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2005 Report Share Posted March 13, 2005 Dear Ken I guess it all revolves around a rate limiting factor. Regards Windsor ps. any idea of the shelf life of Piracetam, I still have some dated Nov 2000 RE: [infections] Methylcobalamin The majority of the people (including several ‘healthy normal’ work colleagues) notice benefits. Since it mechanism is coagulation, that suggests that either coagulation is not involved or different coagulation elements are involved. As is typical, mileage is different for everyone/ Ken Lassesen, From: Windsor [mailto:rwindsor@...] Dear Ken Interestingly I tried Piracetam and Hydergine some years back and failed to notice any benefits. I suspect that I have become more attuned to the subtle changes I am now observing. Regards Windsor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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