Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 I've used Emerita Pro-gest Cream for years. It never occurred to me to wonder about LDN and progest together. After all, I'm using it to bring my progesterone levels up to something more normal and healthy. Anybody know of any conflict? I've long believed there is a strong tie between the ebb and flow of the estrogen/progesterone balance and my ebb and flow of MS symptoms. Without the Pro-gest I just don't do as well... balancing hormones seems to me to be a necessity. ----- Original Message ----- From: " cinders57a " <allentownusa@...> <low dose naltrexone > Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 3:15 PM Subject: [low dose naltrexone] LDN and Progesterone > After a pretty bad case of ON (both eyes - almost totally blind) I > was diagnosed with MS in late February. I researched all the ABC ® > drugs and was underimpressed, so rejected them. My Neuro would not > Rx LDN, so I found a " Dr. Feel Good " HRT doctor who was willing > to " Give me whatever I want! " and I got the script. That doctor had > never heard of LDN, I requested 3.0 - since it seems like most > people do OK on that. Skip's will be sending me the LDN this week. > > Anyhow - I really don't have many other symptoms - just a tiny bit > of tingly stuff in my fingertips, and some in my face. And my ears > ring almost constantly. I am concerned about the stiffness some of > you talk about, but am willing to give LDN a try to stop MS > progression. > > The doctor who prescribed the LDN, made a pretty good case (from my > history and bloodwork) that I am progesterone low. He is also > suggesting I go on Bio-Natural Progesterone (and gave me a script > for that, too.) I have researched it, and found that it is credited > with promoting the formation of new myelin sheaths, and since it is > a steroid, it can help with inflammation. So it sounds good. > > I was wondering if anyone else is using Bio-Natural Progesterone - > with LDN? I would really like to hear if anyone else is combining > the two treatments. This doctor has about 35 MS patients, all on > HRT, and he says they are doing pretty good. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 Hi. I'm interested in finding out more about the bio-progesteron you're taking. I'm on LDN but want to find out more as to why you say you do better with your MS with the bio-progesteron. I've been thinking about this and would like to know how to get it and tell me about what HRT is, if you don't mind. Please write me to mariposa4249@... if you don't feel comfortable discussing this on the LDN group site. Thanks much, Angiecinders57a <allentownusa@...> wrote: After a pretty bad case of ON (both eyes - almost totally blind) I was diagnosed with MS in late February. I researched all the ABC ® drugs and was underimpressed, so rejected them. My Neuro would not Rx LDN, so I found a "Dr. Feel Good" HRT doctor who was willing to "Give me whatever I want!" and I got the script. That doctor had never heard of LDN, I requested 3.0 - since it seems like most people do OK on that. Skip's will be sending me the LDN this week. Anyhow - I really don't have many other symptoms - just a tiny bit of tingly stuff in my fingertips, and some in my face. And my ears ring almost constantly. I am concerned about the stiffness some of you talk about, but am willing to give LDN a try to stop MS progression.The doctor who prescribed the LDN, made a pretty good case (from my history and bloodwork) that I am progesterone low. He is also suggesting I go on Bio-Natural Progesterone (and gave me a script for that, too.) I have researched it, and found that it is credited with promoting the formation of new myelin sheaths, and since it is a steroid, it can help with inflammation. So it sounds good.I was wondering if anyone else is using Bio-Natural Progesterone - with LDN? I would really like to hear if anyone else is combining the two treatments. This doctor has about 35 MS patients, all on HRT, and he says they are doing pretty good.AngieNever regret yesterday. Life is in you today, and you make your tomorrows.__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 I am also interested in knowing more about this. I take an awesome progesterone creme for 2 weeks out of each month. It has helped me tremendously with mood.... but should I be using it all month?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 Thanks to everyone who has responded. I appreciate hearing your experiences and thoughts. I too would like to find out more about the creams that some of you are using. (And if it is not too personal, where do you apply them???) The med my HRT (Hormone Replacement Thearpy) doctor has given me is a script for liquid, bio-natural Progesterone (made by Upjohn) not a cream. It is for 100mg per 1/4 tsp to be taken twice daily. (If I am reading the script right!) I did not take it to the compounding pharmacy he recommended because I had to travel about 100 miles to get to him, and did not want to use a pharmcacy that far away if I could avoid it. I also wanted to research what he was telling me before I agreed to go on the med. Now I am having some difficulty finding a compounder who can fill the script. If I have to I will contact the one he recommended to get it filled. Anyhow - he told me that the use of progesterone is different in women like me ( " intact " that is no hystrectomny - sorry for the spelling :-)) So what he is giving me may be very different than what someone might prescribe for women who have had surgery. I don't know. And although I am 47, I am pre-menoposal, so that may make a difference, too. I have noticed that the script is for unlimited refills, so maybe not since I am expecting menopause to come along sometime pretty soon. Oh - and another " weird " thing about me is that most women who are progesterone low are also Estrogen Dominant - where I appear to be Estrogen difficent, too. But since Estrogen in a know cancer causer and since I do not have any adverse problems of being Estrogen difficient, he did not recommend any replacement therapy for that condition. He did say that I am the only woman he has ever treated who is estrogen difficent, of course, I have to be different!! The research I did yesterday said that synthetic progesterone (the most common used since it can be copyright and trademark protected by the drug co's. - where the bio-natural can't) can have side effects. The bio-natural does not have any known negative side effects. I guess I will find out when I get my scrit filled and start taking it. And according to The Analyst at: http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/cond/C8769.html Low Progesterone is a possible cause of MS. That makes sense to me too, since I have noticed worsning MS symptoms in connection with my cycles that get better when what little projesterone I have kicks back in a few days after my period. Well - hearing that some of you are taking creams and have found it helpful, I am even more willing to try the med. he recommended. I will check back in after I start, and let you know how it is going. Thanks again for the input - Cinders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2004 Report Share Posted April 13, 2004 Angie, sounds like their are many in this group who are interested in this. However my e-mail address is lbaden@... . The progesteron cream and LDN play a role here I'm sure. From: Angie Mendez [mailto:mariposa4249@...] Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 9:41 PMlow dose naltrexone Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] LDN and Progesterone Hi. I'm interested in finding out more about the bio-progesteron you're taking. I'm on LDN but want to find out more as to why you say you do better with your MS with the bio-progesteron. I've been thinking about this and would like to know how to get it and tell me about what HRT is, if you don't mind. Please write me to mariposa4249@... if you don't feel comfortable discussing this on the LDN group site. Thanks much, Angiecinders57a <allentownusa@...> wrote: After a pretty bad case of ON (both eyes - almost totally blind) I was diagnosed with MS in late February. I researched all the ABC ® drugs and was underimpressed, so rejected them. My Neuro would not Rx LDN, so I found a "Dr. Feel Good" HRT doctor who was willing to "Give me whatever I want!" and I got the script. That doctor had never heard of LDN, I requested 3.0 - since it seems like most people do OK on that. Skip's will be sending me the LDN this week. Anyhow - I really don't have many other symptoms - just a tiny bit of tingly stuff in my fingertips, and some in my face. And my ears ring almost constantly. I am concerned about the stiffness some of you talk about, but am willing to give LDN a try to stop MS progression.The doctor who prescribed the LDN, made a pretty good case (from my history and bloodw! ork) that I am progesterone low. He is also suggesting I go on Bio-Natural Progesterone (and gave me a script for that, too.) I have researched it, and found that it is credited with promoting the formation of new myelin sheaths, and since it is a steroid, it can help with inflammation. So it sounds good.I was wondering if anyone else is using Bio-Natural Progesterone - with LDN? I would really like to hear if anyone else is combining the two treatments. This doctor has about 35 MS patients, all on HRT, and he says they are doing pretty good.AngieNever regret yesterday. Life is in you today, and you make your tomorrows. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2004 Report Share Posted April 14, 2004 Emerita's Pro-Gest is available from GNC, as well as health food stores etc. No prescription needed for it either. I wonder if the prescription is for a progesterone cream with something else added? ----- Original Message ----- From: Baden low dose naltrexone Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 12:14 PM Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] LDN and Progesterone Hi Sheila and Angie, why a script. . . I bought "Progesta-Care" which is a Natural Progeterone cream from my local health food store. It was $ 21.19 and lasts you for one month with the same directions as you just mentioned in your post. Why is a scrip necessary? Thanks for your feedback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2004 Report Share Posted April 14, 2004 I did a little research, and I believe that the Emerita's Pro-Gest gives 20 MG of progesterone per 1/4 tsp. My script gives 100 MG of progesterone per 1/4 tsp. I guess that is why the script, and why it costs more. Thanks for the question, I was wondering about it myself. Be Well - Cinders > Emerita's Pro-Gest is available from GNC, as well as health food stores etc. No prescription needed for it either. I wonder if the prescription is for a progesterone cream with something else added? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Baden > low dose naltrexone > Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 12:14 PM > Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] LDN and Progesterone > > > Hi Sheila and Angie, why a script. . . I bought " Progesta-Care " which is a Natural Progeterone cream from my local health food store. It was $ 21.19 and lasts you for one month with the same directions as you just mentioned in your post. Why is a scrip necessary? Thanks for your feedback > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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