Re: Digest Number 483

[Guest guest]

I can't remember if it was on this list that someone mentioned that they

taking lemon daily to flush out their gallbladder, rather than flushing it

out with olive oil, lemon juice, etc. If it was this list, how long does it

take to flush out the liver and how many lemons per day?

If it wasn't this list, I'm sorry. Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you.

[Guest guest]

It was not me, however, I take the juice of one lemon every morning

chased by a cup of *hot* water, rather thin tea, no:) Lemon juice does

stimulate the bile and the hot water does stimulate the liver functions,

but how I don't know. My paternal grandmother did that everyday of her

life and she lived to be about nine thousand years old. She was a " babe "

in her sixties (looked 30, not 30-ish); never needing make-up and all

that. Not an age spot either. About all she did was drink the hot water

in the morning and she always rose before 5.00a. Unfortunately, the

genes did not follow; I took after Grandpa. So perhaps it was her " liver

tonic " . She did state the hot water was for the liver and getting up

before 5.00a was an imperative for good health ( I do that: it must be

genetic; my whole family does it.)

Caveat! This will reduce you budgetary requirements for tea and coffee.

wrote:

> From: " " <amandale@...>

>

> I can't remember if it was on this list that someone mentioned that

> they

> taking lemon daily to flush out their gallbladder, rather than

> flushing it

> out with olive oil, lemon juice, etc. If it was this list, how long

> does it

> take to flush out the liver and how many lemons per day?

>

> If it wasn't this list, I'm sorry. Any help would be appreciated.

>

> Thank you.

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In a message dated 7/14/00 6:26:55 AM, dwarfismegroups writes:

<< Message: 3

Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 14:08:46 CDT

From: " Gigi Bettendorf " <gibett@...>

Subject: Re: Digest Number 482

I was just wondering.. 2001 is Toronto, 2002 is Salt Lake, 2004 is San

Francisco but where is 2003?? Thanks.. Gigi B.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Jeff & ,

We have found that typical sedation, even by IV, tends to have the opposite

effect on and make matters worse. He had to have a liver biopsy

once and our GI doc didn't want him to have general anesthesia because the

procedure was so short. He called in the head of the NICU and asked his

opinion. That doc suggested Verced and administered it by nose drop. It

worked great! was out like a light in a matter of seconds, but only

for a very short time.....maybe 15 minutes. We have a pediatric

opthomologist who specializes in children with special needs and he is really

good with . Somehow we manage to get through that one with

relatively no problems. The dentist is a whole new ballgame! We have tried

holding him down, but it's too hard for the dentist to see in his mouth much

less get work done. (Not to mention, will bite and not let go!) We

have used a " papoose board " at the CHLA Dental Clinic with some success, but

now they say that he's too big and they want him to have general anesthesia

to do his work. The doctor's office is a fight....I warn them that

will pull hair or pinch to get away from them. It takes 3-4 adults

to hold him down for a blood draw. Somebody lately mentioned using an

oversized towel to wrap their kid up during procedures and that worked for

them. I'm going to try that next. Good Luck!

Terry

[Guest guest]

Greetings, friends. I haven't said anything in awhile, but find nourishment

in reading the experiences of other families who face similar joys and

trials. Our turned 8 this week. He's my best buddy. Here's one

specific challenge we face at this point. Took Ben in last week for the Dr.

to check on serious cough, congestion, fever. It now takes three of us,

Dad, male doctor, male orderly, to hold Ben down in order to check his ears,

eyes, throat. Scared the doctor (who is a good guy, but astounded by Ben's

strength, which arises from sheer terror in the moment). Then there's the

dentist. And the need for a pediatric opthamologist to rework Ben's

perscription (he'll no longer keep his glasses on). Impossible. Tried to

do an x-ray for the atlanto-axial awhile back. No way. Ended up sedating

him and doing a CT Scan. He barely fell asleep then with an oral anasthesia

and a long ride in the car. The pediodontist is talking about an IV

sedation. I can't picture it working. Anyone else who struggles with their

child's utter terror of being checked, examined, prodded? How does anyone

get teeth and eyes checked?

One day at a time:-) Jeff and Hittenberger

Re: (unknown)

hi rebecca, i hope each day gets easier for you and your family.it is hard

to let them go but remember that he is in a better place now with the

lord.my prayers are with you carole

Csvillars@... wrote:

,

I am so sorry to hear that. You will be in my prayers.

Carol

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/27/2000 10:02:47 AM Central Standard Time,

JHittenberger@... writes:

<< Anyone else who struggles with their

child's utter terror of being checked, examined, prodded? How does anyone

get teeth and eyes checked? >>

Jeff and ,

Yes, we struggle with all of these things with our - dentist, ENT and

eye exams and haircuts too - all of these are a struggle to some degree with

the need for several of us to hold her down because of her fear and strength.

Our dentist is also talking about sedation someday - is 9 1/2 and 60+

pounds - and I don't think we'll be able to do it without sedation for much

longer. Her baby teeth won't fall out and the permanent teeth just start

growing in behind them, so she sometimes has to go to the hospital and have

them pulled under IV sedation. Haircuts are such a struggle! We're blessed

to have a friend from church who is a stylist, and understands our situation

with and puts up with it. She has actually cut herself a few times

because it's so difficult to cut the hair on a moving target! Makes me so

nervous during haircuts! The ENT is another rough exam, especially when she

needs to have wax fished out of her ears. It takes two or three of us to

hold her down. Wish I could give you some good advice, but we haven't

figured out a way to fix this problem either. We have tried bribery with

everything she loves to eat and do, but nothing works. Sorry I can't help,

but I can commiserate,

Maureen

[Guest guest]

luckily nathan out grew most of his, wiht an occasional outburts then they

just versed him, and its off to dream land for awhile, the best rest i ever

get, i still have bruises on my arms from him at one of our last appts, in

UIHC, but mostly he happily sits in the chair and will mimic them going

aahhh, etc, but i offer prayers that he gets it soon.

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

You asked whether there's a web site that can translate toiletry ingredient

names from English to French.

Try Alta Vista (altavista.com). Once on their home page, scroll down and

choose " Translate " on the left-hand side.

You then type the words/sentences you want translated and choose language

from/to.

I tried typing " aloe vera, " " boric acid, " " hydrogen peroxide " and " lanolin. "

It translated them for me!

If you want to try other Internet translation services, find them by typing

the search word " translation. "

Good luck. Let me know how it turned out.

Snowdon

tryaimhigh@...

[Guest guest]

Angie..

why not try MMS's lye calculator and create your own recipes?

This is what I do...and its more rewarding, knowing you've made it ALL

yourself

(plus its fun)

Also, with wondering about the size of molds to the size of your recipe...

add the amount of ounces of your batch, then divide that by the sizes of

your molds.

Remember most individual cavities are about 3 to 4 ounces each, and one

pound of soap is 16 ounces.

http://www.thesoapgoat.com

loads of christmas specials

[Guest guest]

Kathy, thanks for the ingredients,, how much do they cost? Are you the

Kathy of exercise fame? , Shaklee products are great,, I've

distributed for yrs.... esp. love the basic H for cleaning the house! the

laundry detergent was good too,, I switched to that yrs ago after getting

hives from Tide!!! not sure if the ingredients are on the ok list though,,

do you know? healthy day O's!

[Guest guest]

Derma-controle is major anti-aging. It's a moisturizing cream that isn't

heavy but stays on all day. I usually don't wear any make-up so this is the

only thing that goes on my face in the mornings! I can't stand the

thought of layering on all those cosmetics on my face, not letting my face

pores breathe properly!

I would give you the ingredients, but I'm leaving for an overnight stay and

it's in my suitcase! I'll let you know what they are when I get back..

Whitney

[Guest guest]

Please take me out of this list

thnx

Mundo

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> There are 12 messages in this issue.

>

> Topics in this digest:

>

> 1. Re: EXCUSE ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

> From: " Kees Braam " <redactie@...>

> 2. Re: TAC - Congressional hearing?

> From: " Kees Braam " <redactie@...>

> 3. study from India

> From: " JudyK " <uno-man@...>

> 4. India ..cancer cure???

> From: " JudyK " <uno-man@...>

> 5. Re: study from India

> From: " V Gammill " <ygammil1@...>

> 6. Text of the news regarding supposed Indian Cancer Cure

> From: iel.Lim@...

> 7. Re: India ..cancer cure???

> From: " Kees Braam " <redactie@...>

> 8. Re: Juicing for Cancer

> From: ROBERT R RHUDY <rhudy@...>

> 9. Re: Juicing for Cancer

> From: moonbeam@...

> 10. Re: study from India

> From: moonbeam@...

> 11. Re: Juicing for Cancer / thanks Moonbeam

> From: pkelly@...

> 12. Re: Re: study from India

> From: " Terry " <terjen@...>

>

>

>

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>

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>

> Message: 1

> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:44:10 +0200

> From: " Kees Braam " <redactie@...>

> Subject: Re: EXCUSE ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

> Please let everybody free in what he or she thinks and feels about

> the messages. Why to call somebody frustrated if she or he shows

> open and honest feelings about something. I'm interested in his

> information and admire him for his 'stubborn' way of trying to get

> done what he thinks that should be done. But I hope this group also

> gives freedom to others to express negative feelings about that. It

> makes it clear and in this way I at least can distinguish the

> messages which are interesting for me and which are not.

>

> So continue (I will send you a personal mail tomorrow about all

> the valuable information you send me yesterday) , but also the

> others please feel free to express what you feel and think.

>

> Gr. Kees Braam

> webmaster www.kanker-actueel.nl

> Re: EXCUSE ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

>

> i for one am definitely not annoyed or bored with your posts. in

> fact, i appreciate your efforts tremendously.

>

> i suggest the person who wrote you this response might consider

> learning some qigong, which could clear his spleen of frustration

> and resentment. that way, he wouldn't be tempted to take it out on

> those who are attempting to change things so that alternative cancer

> cures are available to the masses.

>

> -dianna

>

>

> Relative to my repeated postings about TAC

> (Thiazolidine-4-carboxylic acid) being

> a possible cure for Cancer, a member has posted:

>

> " GROAN.....and on and on and on and on. Isn't anyone else

> irritated with this repeated message?

> I think it is time for me to drop off this list. "

>

> Well, in the immortal words of the indomitable comedian, Steve

> :

>

> " EXCUSE ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "

>

> I thought the name of this eGroup is " Cancercure " .

>

> Do people mean to tell me that they are getting bored with

> repeatedly having to read

> about a possible cure for Cancer?

>

> A 'delete key' exits does it not?

>

> People will either agree or disagree with me about TAC.

>

> In my opinion there can be no middle ground; TAC is or is not

> the cure for Cancer.

>

> If you disagree with me, you should provide the scientific

> reasoning

> why you think that TAC would not work.

>

> If you agree with me, you should make suggestions how the status

> quo could be changed

> to make medical authorities amenable to trying TAC & vitamin C.

>

> For instance, I have been stymied in my efforts -

>

> 1. Since November, 1997, I have been continually suggesting to

> the National Institutes of Health (NIH)

> that it repeat a clinical trial in which this result was

> achieved after TAC, by itself,

> had been injected into Cancer patients -

>

> " .....disappearance of evidence of cancer. "

>

> My big change to the trial? Simply have all the Cancer patients

> swallow 'mega-doses' of TAC & vitamin C.

>

> The NIH has ignored me.

>

> 2. Even my local medical society does not respond to me.

>

> 3. My Congressman has been unresponsive.

>

> It seems to me that everyone prefers to remain silent. Why

> should this be so? Could it be

> that if my words prove true, they would cause the ruination of

> the multi-billion dollar cancercare industry?

>

> Consequently, I'm stymied.

>

> But, EXCUSE ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>

> I'll continue as best I can to alert the world to a possible,

> inexpensive, safe cure for all Cancers -

> 'mega-doses' of TAC & vitamin C.

>

> I wish that all members of

> <mailto:cures for cancer >cures for cancer would

> have such insightful comments

> as those of Kees Braam.

>

> See my later posting of today or tomorrow titled, " I don't own a

> test tube. "

>

> Sincerely, ,

> <mailto:jsr1936@...>jsr1936@..., (219) 763-1933

> 5086 Sunrise Avenue, Portage, Indiana 46368

> The Cure for Cancer?

>

<http://cures for cancer.ws/cures for cancer/tac-cure.htm>http://cures for cancer.ws/cancer

cure/tac-cure.htm

>

> Copies to Congressman Visclosky, Dr. Varmus, Lake/Porter County

> Medical Society,

> Congressman Burton, Dr. Cheadle, Professor Schally and

> Tulane University School of Medicine

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My husband Bill had a horrible reaction to the Peg/Ribiviran, critically low

platelets and WBC, he has been off it for about a year now. He is seeing a

Hematologist /Oncologist because his platelets never came back up to normal

and his HCT/HGB began to drop after he came off the treatment. His liver is

in stage 3-4, close to chirrosis. They did a bone marrow biopsy, boy that

was not pleasant!! They found no detectable/stainable iron. They had his

last 2 liver biopsies pulled and stained for iron and there was no

detectable/stainable iron. Anyone ever heard of something like this? From

all the research I have done, most people with liver disease are just the

opposite!?! They have tried giving him IGG infusions to boost his blood

counts, but he actually went further down. They gave him a half dose iron

infusion today and he actually feels a tad bit better. He just wants to get

his counts up so he can go back on interferon and get this horrible disease

under control. He is also on a aggressive alternative/herbal treatment. We

believe his liver disease has not progressed due to alternative treatment.

We feel that with the interferon and alternative treatment he can actually

have a normal life again... and I cannot forget to mention Gods help!!!!!

I pray for all of you out there, I can see what has become of my husband who

just turned 48, it is heart breaking. We have only been married for 3

months, together for 6 years. I pray for a long life with him, this disease

has made me live for now with him because I don't know how long we have

together on earth.

If anyone has any information about this iron dilemma your input would be

greatly appreciated. Also... anyone on that new Pegasus treatment? If so...

any info on side effects compared to the Peg? Thanks to you all and God

bless.

& Bill

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

I'm sorry to hear the tx failed your husband. I recovered from end stage using a natural protocol....your husband can recover completely is he provides his body with the proper nutrtional tools for the job. Understand, tx works in exactly the opposite manner as nutrtion. These protocols work against each other. A natural approach complete with an abundance of hydrides, is safe and effective...every time.

NO pathogen can live in an electron rich environment. We correct the biological terrain of the body, create an inhospitable environment, then provide the body what it needs to heal the damage done by the virus and tx.

I would be happy to discuss my recovery and the things I used anytime.

Peace, Jeanine

http://hepchelp.homestead.com

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> Hi,

>

> I'm very happy to report that I lost 2 pounds this week even with having a

> huge dinner on Sat. night. Yippee! I'll admit that I had to pee 3

Good job Ann! *S* Weigh To Goal!

~

253/246/200 lbs (main goal 135 lbs)

Pounds lost so far (since Oct '02): 7

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[Guest guest]

From: Jan Jenson <vizual@...>

It's taken me 3 years after I had 17 amalgams removed to FEEL like most of

the mercury

and other heavy metal toxins are out. I was also a welder for over 22

years, so I had a

TREMENDOUS load!

You ARE going to feel worse for a while. Yes, the heavy metals DO

re-circulate in the blood.

I found using detox pads on my feet at night drew out a lot of those

circulating metals --

better than almost anything else...

I have a friend who recently purchased an Aqua Detox machine.

Her clients are experiencing some pretty NASTY stuff coming OUT into the

water.

The blood completely circulates from head to toe every 17 minutes, so the

Aqua Detox

works exceptionally well for drawing out those toxins too...

It WAS/IS worth the trouble because I don't have Fibromyalgia any more

and don't ache all day & all night long!

Jan Jenson

Publisher - WELLthy Choices newzine

I also experienced worsening symptoms when doing mercury removal.

Maybe it is because the mercury is re-circulating in the blood stream

while it is either being removed or re-doposited somewhere else. But

I have to think that I am much better off today after having all my

fillings removed than I was before. It took me an entire year to

have all my fillings removed as I had them removed one or two at a

time as my budget would allow. I had to pay the entire cost as I had

no dental insurance. They told me to wait until after they were all

out before I started chelating. I didn't take that advice. I got a

small barrel of calcium EDTA directly from a manufacturer for what

you might pay for a few bottles of it from an internet retailer. I

took huge amounts of it for about a year putting it into gelatin

capsules myself. I then bought an infra-red sauna and tried to sweat

it out. I then spent another year juicing huge amounts of cilantro.

Today I am no longer chelating. But I have no idea how much is left

if any.

[Guest guest]

One thing I noticed while doing detox was that I'd start to feeling

better and think I had it all out. My problem was that I couldn't

remember anymore just how good I used to feel. And so I'd be

surprised when I'd start to feel even better still and remember how I

used to feel that way a long time ago. I feel pretty good now, but I

wouldn't be surprised if I detoxed some more and made myself feel

even better. The mercury and the electrical sensitivity may not be

related in the sense doing mercury detox will also help overcome the

electrical sensitivity. But they do seem to go hand in hand. The

electrical currents may cause the mercury to go places in the body

such as the brain. Getting rid of the mercury is necessary,

especially if it is not in your teeth anymore. But also necessary is

to deal with the electrical currents. Can you give us any more

information about the foot pads and that other device you mentioned

such as a web site as to where to buy them?

> From: Jan Jenson <vizual@a...>

>

> It's taken me 3 years after I had 17 amalgams removed to FEEL like

most of

> the mercury

> and other heavy metal toxins are out. I was also a welder for over

22

> years, so I had a

> TREMENDOUS load!

>

> You ARE going to feel worse for a while. Yes, the heavy metals DO

> re-circulate in the blood.

> I found using detox pads on my feet at night drew out a lot of those

> circulating metals --

> better than almost anything else...

> I have a friend who recently purchased an Aqua Detox machine.

> Her clients are experiencing some pretty NASTY stuff coming OUT

into the

> water.

> The blood completely circulates from head to toe every 17 minutes,

so the

> Aqua Detox

> works exceptionally well for drawing out those toxins too...

>

> It WAS/IS worth the trouble because I don't have Fibromyalgia any

more

> and don't ache all day & all night long!

>

> Jan Jenson

> Publisher - WELLthy Choices newzine

>

>

> I also experienced worsening symptoms when doing mercury removal.

> Maybe it is because the mercury is re-circulating in the blood

stream

> while it is either being removed or re-doposited somewhere else.

But

> I have to think that I am much better off today after having all my

> fillings removed than I was before. It took me an entire year to

> have all my fillings removed as I had them removed one or two at a

> time as my budget would allow. I had to pay the entire cost as I

had

> no dental insurance. They told me to wait until after they were all

> out before I started chelating. I didn't take that advice. I got a

> small barrel of calcium EDTA directly from a manufacturer for what

> you might pay for a few bottles of it from an internet retailer. I

> took huge amounts of it for about a year putting it into gelatin

> capsules myself. I then bought an infra-red sauna and tried to

sweat

> it out. I then spent another year juicing huge amounts of cilantro.

> Today I am no longer chelating. But I have no idea how much is left

> if any.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I found foot pads on google search. But nothing comes up for aqua

detox machine. Can you give me a website or something please? Are

there any particular footpads that are better in your experience and

opinion. I saw a lot of different ones to choose from. Thanks.

> From: Jan Jenson <vizual@a...>

>

> It's taken me 3 years after I had 17 amalgams removed to FEEL like

most of

> the mercury

> and other heavy metal toxins are out. I was also a welder for over

22

> years, so I had a

> TREMENDOUS load!

>

> You ARE going to feel worse for a while. Yes, the heavy metals DO

> re-circulate in the blood.

> I found using detox pads on my feet at night drew out a lot of those

> circulating metals --

> better than almost anything else...

> I have a friend who recently purchased an Aqua Detox machine.

> Her clients are experiencing some pretty NASTY stuff coming OUT

into the

> water.

> The blood completely circulates from head to toe every 17 minutes,

so the

> Aqua Detox

> works exceptionally well for drawing out those toxins too...

>

> It WAS/IS worth the trouble because I don't have Fibromyalgia any

more

> and don't ache all day & all night long!

>

> Jan Jenson

> Publisher - WELLthy Choices newzine

>

>

> I also experienced worsening symptoms when doing mercury removal.

> Maybe it is because the mercury is re-circulating in the blood

stream

> while it is either being removed or re-doposited somewhere else.

But

> I have to think that I am much better off today after having all my

> fillings removed than I was before. It took me an entire year to

> have all my fillings removed as I had them removed one or two at a

> time as my budget would allow. I had to pay the entire cost as I

had

> no dental insurance. They told me to wait until after they were all

> out before I started chelating. I didn't take that advice. I got a

> small barrel of calcium EDTA directly from a manufacturer for what

> you might pay for a few bottles of it from an internet retailer. I

> took huge amounts of it for about a year putting it into gelatin

> capsules myself. I then bought an infra-red sauna and tried to

sweat

> it out. I then spent another year juicing huge amounts of cilantro.

> Today I am no longer chelating. But I have no idea how much is left

> if any.

>

>

>

>