Guest guest Posted April 15, 2002 Report Share Posted April 15, 2002 Hi Carole, Try stopping them for a day or two and reintroduce them, but in a much smaller quantity - 1/8th of a capsule and then working up. This helped us. DebGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2002 Report Share Posted April 15, 2002 > Hi all > > We have just started Peptizyde with our daughter who is 4 and a > half. > > She has been on them for about 10 days and has become very emotional. > > Is this a normal side effect? It does appear to be a withdrawal effect, you can consider reducing the dose to see if that helps with the adjustment period. If it lasts more than about 3 weeks or so, then you can consider it might be the enzymes themselves. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2002 Report Share Posted April 15, 2002 --------------------------------- Being overly emotional is a part of every enzyme adjustment my daughter has gone through and when she's sick. A blubbering mess over the smallest things, poor kid. --- Carole Gillespie wrote: Hi all We have just started Peptizyde with our daughter who is 4 and a half. She has been on them for about 10 days and has become very emotional. Is this a normal side effect? --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2002 Report Share Posted April 16, 2002 Hi Carole We have been on the enzymes for a little over 3 weeks. During the first couple of weeks my son got really tantrumy and " off " for a while. It has gotten a little better but not much. I think it really has something to do with adjusting to the enzymes. I am hoping it will wear off in a few more days. Good Luck Stacey [ ] just started Hi all We have just started Peptizyde with our daughter who is 4 and a half. She has been on them for about 10 days and has become very emotional. Is this a normal side effect? She has been gfcf free since Oct 2001. The only thing I am worried about is that the enzymes are reacting with one of her other supplements or she is allergic to them. She is also on Biosa Prime Multivits (containing dmg and tmg etc etc), BioKult Probiotic and Efalex (efas from fish oil and evening primrose oil). Just like anything new we need a little reassurance. Thanks in advance Carole *********************************************************************** This e-mail, and any attachment, is privileged information and its contents are confidential to the intended recipient at the e-mail address to which it has been addressed. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than this addressee. If received in error, please contact Learning & Teaching Scotland on +(44) 141 337 5000 or e-mail enquiries@..., quoting the name of the sender and the addressee, and then delete it from your system. Please be aware that, although all reasonable steps have been taken, neither Learning & Teaching Scotland nor the sender is able to accept any responsibility for viruses. No contracts may be concluded on behalf of Learning & Teaching Scotland by means of e-mail communications. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not the views of Learning & Teaching Scotland, unless specifically stated. ********************************************************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 That's your choice, to stay on Rebif even though it may cancel out any possible effects the LDN may have. So if you don't see any improvements, you won't be able to say that the LDN didn't help at all. Believe me, I understand the feeling of needing to do something (everything) possible to fight this disease, but my opinion, as well as some of the latest research, is showing that a MS diagnosis will take the course that it is going to take regardless of any of the CRAB drugs. LDN, although only anecdotal proof, has shown to stop/slow progression at much higher rates than any of the CRABs. I took Avonex fot two years and ended up in this chair anyway. I wish I had known about LDN then. Some of the latest research is showing that some have a benign form of MS anyway. Only time tells that. If the research is true that shows that suppressing the immune system is actually the opposite of what we need to be doing, then alot of people are taking the wrong course of action anyway. Maybe you will be fine taking both. In any case, you are not going to know which helped or which didn't. Just don't blame LDN for not working when we know that it is not recommended to be taken with Rebif. Marcie (PPMS) In a message dated 9/7/2004 5:45:02 AM Central Standard Time, sharris@... writes: I just started on 3mg at night. I am taking it for MS. I also take Rebif, and I have read that the Rebif, being an immune system suppressor, can negate the benefit of LDN. I'll keep doing it anyway, and see what happens. This is day three, and nothing yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 Can you switch to Copaxone? No interaction problem with ldn there. -------Original Message------- From: low dose naltrexone Date: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 06:43:53 low dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Just started I just started on 3mg at night. I am taking it for MS. I also take Rebif, and I have read that the Rebif, being an immune system suppressor, can negate the benefit of LDN. I'll keep doing it anyway, and see what happens. This is day three, and nothing yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Kelli~ Here is a post that I responded to for another member. If you just started, I would only use 1/4 of a capsule with one meal per day for the first week and then increase from there. Here is what I wrote: " Not Dana here, but when I spoke directly with HNI about AFP Pep, they did indicate that these types of behaviors could come out in the adjustment period. So I started low and slow. I only gave him 1/4 of a cap with one meal per day for a week, then 1/4 of a cap with 2 meals a day for a week and by week 4 I had him on 1/2 of a cap with each meal. He had one night that he was up at 3 AM, but this is it. Remember that the amout is based on his food intake and not his weight. I would maybe back down a little and see if this helps. The SNT may be making him more hyper as it did for my son and if your child is using enzymes.... they are most likely being absorbed better. Try cutting back on the AFP Pep first and document what you observe before cutting back on the supplements. " Jackie Kelli ston <Kelliston@...> wrote:Hi, we just started with Zyme Prime @ meals and most snacks. I started with ½-1 per meal. I can’t tell how much he is getting because I put it in ketchup and he is in school half the day (its in his milk there and sometimes he doesn’t finish it). Anyway, we started the day before yesterday. Yesterday was the first full day. He woke up last night and had a full blown tantrum in the middle of the night (it started with a wet bed). He usually sleeps very well. It took us a while to settle him down and he finally fell back to sleep. The only thing different yesterday was the enzyme. Could it have provoked this? Or is it most likely a coincidence? __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 Even if it isn't the AFP? He is only taking the Zyme Prime and not getting the full dose because he isn't finishing the milk that I put it in. …… Kelli…… Kai (2) & Tatum (0) > Re: just started > > Kelli~ > Here is a post that I responded to for another member. If you just started, I would > only use 1/4 of a capsule with one meal per day for the first week and then > increase from there. Here is what I wrote: > > " Not Dana here, but when I spoke directly with HNI about AFP Pep, they did > indicate that these types of behaviors could come out in the adjustment period. So > I started low and slow. I only gave him 1/4 of a cap with one meal per day for a > week, then 1/4 of a cap with 2 meals a day for a week and by week 4 I had him on > 1/2 of a cap with each meal. He had one night that he was up at 3 AM, but this is > it. Remember that the amout is based on his food intake and not his weight. I > would maybe back down a little and see if this helps. The SNT may be making him > more hyper as it did for my son and if your child is using enzymes.... they are > most likely being absorbed better. Try cutting back on the AFP Pep first and > document what you observe before cutting back on the supplements. " > > Jackie > > > Kelli ston <Kelliston@...> wrote:Hi, we just started with Zyme > Prime @ meals and most snacks. I started with ½-1 per meal. I can’t tell how much > he is getting because I put it in ketchup and he is in school half the day (its in his > milk there and sometimes he doesn’t finish it). > > Anyway, we started the day before yesterday. Yesterday was the first full day. He > woke up last night and had a full blown tantrum in the middle of the night (it > started with a wet bed). He usually sleeps very well. It took us a while to settle him > down and he finally fell back to sleep. > > The only thing different yesterday was the enzyme. Could it have provoked this? > Or is it most likely a coincidence? > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 >>>>The only thing different yesterday was the enzyme. Could it have provoked this? Or is it most likely a coincidence? At this point, and because the dose was very low, it is hard to tell. Keep posting over the next few days, especially if it happens again. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 If you are giving him the 1/2 cap with every meal and he is not finishing the milk, I would cut back on the Zyme Prime to just test it with just one meal a day. If the problems go away, it may be related to adjusting to the enzyme. I give my son the enzymes in a spoon of applesauce before his meal, this way I know how much he is getting in. (I lightly coat the spoon with applesause, sprinkle the enzyme and then cover it with applesauce and give it to him with his water cup to take a sip of.) Jackie Kelli ston <Kelliston@...> wrote:Even if it isn't the AFP? He is only taking the Zyme Prime and not getting the full dose because he isn't finishing the milk that I put it in. …… Kelli…… Kai (2) & Tatum (0) > -----Original Message----- > Kelli~ > Here is a post that I responded to for another member. If you just started, I would > only use 1/4 of a capsule with one meal per day for the first week and then > increase from there. Here is what I wrote: > > " Not Dana here, but when I spoke directly with HNI about AFP Pep, they did > indicate that these types of behaviors could come out in the adjustment period. So > I started low and slow. I only gave him 1/4 of a cap with one meal per day for a > week, then 1/4 of a cap with 2 meals a day for a week and by week 4 I had him on > 1/2 of a cap with each meal. He had one night that he was up at 3 AM, but this is > it. Remember that the amout is based on his food intake and not his weight. I > would maybe back down a little and see if this helps. The SNT may be making him > more hyper as it did for my son and if your child is using enzymes.... they are > most likely being absorbed better. Try cutting back on the AFP Pep first and > document what you observe before cutting back on the supplements. " > > Jackie > > > Kelli ston <Kelliston@...> wrote:Hi, we just started with Zyme > Prime @ meals and most snacks. I started with ½-1 per meal. I can’t tell how much > he is getting because I put it in ketchup and he is in school half the day (its in his > milk there and sometimes he doesn’t finish it). > > Anyway, we started the day before yesterday. Yesterday was the first full day. He > woke up last night and had a full blown tantrum in the middle of the night (it > started with a wet bed). He usually sleeps very well. It took us a while to settle him > down and he finally fell back to sleep. > > The only thing different yesterday was the enzyme. Could it have provoked this? > Or is it most likely a coincidence? __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2005 Report Share Posted April 28, 2005 We shall see tonight! Lol. Thanks ) …… Kelli…… Kai (2) & Tatum (0) > RE: just started > > If you are giving him the 1/2 cap with every meal and he is not finishing the milk, I > would cut back on the Zyme Prime to just test it with just one meal a day. If the > problems go away, it may be related to adjusting to the enzyme. I give my son the > enzymes in a spoon of applesauce before his meal, this way I know how much he is > getting in. (I lightly coat the spoon with applesause, sprinkle the enzyme and then > cover it with applesauce and give it to him with his water cup to take a sip of.) > > Jackie > > Kelli ston <Kelliston@...> wrote:Even if it isn't the AFP? He is > only taking the Zyme Prime and not getting > the full dose because he isn't finishing the milk that I put it in. > > …… Kelli…… > Kai (2) & Tatum (0) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Kelli~ > > Here is a post that I responded to for another member. If you just > started, I would > > only use 1/4 of a capsule with one meal per day for the first week and > then > > increase from there. Here is what I wrote: > > > > " Not Dana here, but when I spoke directly with HNI about AFP Pep, they did > > indicate that these types of behaviors could come out in the adjustment > period. So > > I started low and slow. I only gave him 1/4 of a cap with one meal per > day for a > > week, then 1/4 of a cap with 2 meals a day for a week and by week 4 I had > him on > > 1/2 of a cap with each meal. He had one night that he was up at 3 AM, but > this is > > it. Remember that the amout is based on his food intake and not his > weight. I > > would maybe back down a little and see if this helps. The SNT may be > making him > > more hyper as it did for my son and if your child is using enzymes.... > they are > > most likely being absorbed better. Try cutting back on the AFP Pep first > and > > document what you observe before cutting back on the supplements. " > > > > Jackie > > > > > > Kelli ston <Kelliston@...> wrote:Hi, we just started with > Zyme > > Prime @ meals and most snacks. I started with ½-1 per meal. I can’t tell > how much > > he is getting because I put it in ketchup and he is in school half the day > (its in his > > milk there and sometimes he doesn’t finish it). > > > > Anyway, we started the day before yesterday. Yesterday was the first full > day. He > > woke up last night and had a full blown tantrum in the middle of the night > (it > > started with a wet bed). He usually sleeps very well. It took us a while > to settle him > > down and he finally fell back to sleep. > > > > The only thing different yesterday was the enzyme. Could it have provoked > this? > > Or is it most likely a coincidence? > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 > Anyway, we started the day before yesterday. Yesterday was the first full > day. He woke up last night and had a full blown tantrum in the middle of the > night (it started with a wet bed). He usually sleeps very well. It took us a > while to settle him down and he finally fell back to sleep. > > The only thing different yesterday was the enzyme. Could it have provoked > this? Or is it most likely a coincidence? It could be adjustment period. Does he usually get ketchup? He might not tolerate it, especially without No-Fenol enzyme. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2005 Report Share Posted April 30, 2005 So he hasn't woken up again like that so I am assuming it was either a short adjustment or a coincidence! ... Kelli.. Kai (2) & Tatum (0) > Re: just started > > > > Anyway, we started the day before yesterday. Yesterday was the first > full > > day. He woke up last night and had a full blown tantrum in the > middle of the > > night (it started with a wet bed). He usually sleeps very well. It > took us a > > while to settle him down and he finally fell back to sleep. > > > > The only thing different yesterday was the enzyme. Could it have > provoked > > this? Or is it most likely a coincidence? > > > It could be adjustment period. > > Does he usually get ketchup? He might not tolerate it, especially > without No-Fenol enzyme. > > Dana > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 Hi I'm a relatively new subscriber and just wanted people to know that I started on Xolair yesterday. My insurance (Aetna) has approved me. My allergist has 25 patients in his practice on Xolair and I'm the first with Aetna so I'm happy it got approved. The shots themselves hurt a lot for the first couple of hours after the shot but I was okay after that (no itching and redness like with allergy shots). The question I had to the group is does your doctor make you take the Xolair and Allergy shots seperately? Mine does and it really adds to the my time out of work as it's time to the office, waiting for the shot and a 30 minute wait, and then travel back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2008 Report Share Posted March 2, 2008 Hi Saundra,This site discusses the making and taking of LDN:http://tinyurl.com/2dfbvdTo learn more about LDN, visithttp://tinyurl.com/2boot2Sincerely,Dudley Delany dudley_delanyFrom: Saundra Renz Sent: Sunday, March 2, 2008 7:41 AM low dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Just started Good morning everyone, I just started LDN last night at 1.5mg. Now, I should stay on this for about a month, right? Then increase if needed? Also, does it matter what time of day you take it? Finally, I dissolved the 50 mg. tab in 50ml of store bought spring water. Is this ok? Hubby said ingredients were exactly the same as distilled....spring water from Kentwood spring, Kentwood, LA. micron & activated charcoal filtered and ozonated. Is this ok? Thanks, Saundra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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