Guest guest Posted January 18, 2001 Report Share Posted January 18, 2001 , Thanks for the info. Unfortunately Naples is too far away. I'll need someone local, esp. with flare ups. Hopefully this will continue to go well my current doc. I'll keep you posted! Hope all is well with you. Tina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2001 Report Share Posted January 19, 2001 Tina I must have missed your post about an RD, so I'm riding in on 's post. If you're looking for a great RD I have one. I don't remember where you live but I live in ville and my RD is my 3rd one but he's a keeper. Good luck. Tery - FL egroups wrote: > > Tina, > > I have talked to 's dr. and he said if you are close to Naples then Dr. > Tom Osburne at the Cleveland Clinic. He said that not only is he a good dr he > is also very nice. He said if you didn't live close to Naples you might want > to consider him anyway cause there is very few good caring RA drs. in Fl. > > good luck, > > shelly > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 thanks for both replies--I want to do it again asap because still have inflammation all over--but do feel a bit better. I am sure my doctors wanted to do surgery---whew!!!! so glad I did not jump on that. are great!! I have a large group myself and help many people---it's fantastic to share what you have learned to help others!!! you can do a search and find just about anything in groups!!! take care tina > > > Its very advisable in my opinion not to just go > > straight into a > > gallbladder > > > and liver cleanse. > > > > > > You could feel pretty ill if you have a very > > congested liver...and > > its best > > > to prepare for a few weeks at least in advance > > with appropriate > > herbs to > > > cleanse the liver and bile. > > > > > > look at www.sensiblehealth.com julia > > knows her stuff. > > > > > > I was very sick and had no success with one of my > > cleanse > > attempts....I took > > > the herbs to decongest the liver etc and this was > > a better result. > > > > > > ANNE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > Start your day with - make it your home page > http://www./r/hs > > > > Learn more from our experience, over 7.000 liver flush stories: > http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=4 > http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=80 > http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=100 > http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=112 > > Liver Cleanse Recipe: http://CureZone.com/cleanse/liver/ > > Liver Flush FAQ: http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=73 > > Images: > http://CureZone.com/image_gallery/cleanse_flush/ > http://CureZone.com/image_gallery/intrahepatic_stones/ > > To unsubscribe, send blank e-mail to: gallstones- unsubscribe and then reply to confirmation message! > > To Post message: gallstones > Subscribe: gallstones-subscribe > > Web Sites for more information: > http://CureZone.org > http://www.liverdoctor.com/ > http://www.sensiblehealth.com/ > http://www.cyberpog.com/health/index.htm > http://www.relfe.com/gall_stone_cleanse.html > http://www.cleansingorsurgery.com/ > > Group page: gallstones > > To change your subscription to digest send blank e-mail to: gallstones-digest > To change your subscription to NO-MAIL send blank e-mail to: gallstones-nomail > To change your subscription to NORMAL send blank e-mail to: gallstones-normal > You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the Gallstones group on 's groups. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself! > Have a nice day ! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 Tina, Have you ever heard of Kefir? Kefir is excellent for digestion. Plus it's a food. I can't stand to take acidophiilus pills or enzyme pills they make me sick and they make me bloated, doesn't seem to matter what the brand is. Kefir is more popular in Europe, people eat it with cereals or granola but it's similar to yogurt except it has way more bacteria, all kinds of different strands and kefir can actually re-colonize the colon, yogurt cannot do that. Yogurt can feed the good bacteria not re-colonize the colon, This is great because if you are very depleted of the good bacteria to begin with, eating kefir is better for you. When I was vegan I had to practice food combining diligently because all the grains for some reason made certain mixtures of foods irritate me. I don't know if you're familiar with it but (food combining) involves not mixing meat with grains and eating fruits alone etc. My stomach was behaving weird at the time. Kefir made it possible for me to eat just about anything and not feel weird. It was pretty much what made my transition from vegan to omnivore a great transition. You get a sense that your stomach is healed. I'm lucky enough to get raw goat milk kefir (best quality) because I live in LA however if you don't, you can get kefir from your local health food store. It tastes similar to yogurt but a little more sour. It does wonders for your digestion. Check out this link http://www.kefir.net/kefiryogurt.htm let me know what you think! __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 No I have never heard of it but I will look it up--(thanks) From my test results no bacteria problems of any kind--- so that is not the problem and with a low lipid profile this does show I am not absorbing fats?? or digesting fats?? but--something is not right because of the gallstones are forming. So now I am looking back into bile acids --info I found today--fyi-- any imput is welcomed--tina The following website provides an excellent overview of the digestive process and the various organs and secretions involved in proper digestion. " Pancreas and Biliary Tree. " MUSChealth.com. http://www.muschealth.com/ddc/organ/panc.htm Excerpts: Where Does Bile Come From? -------------------------- " The biliary juices (bile) are made in the tissues of the liver (hepatic parenchyma), and then pass into the biliary ductal system (picture). Like a river, these ducts gradually join together to form one stream in the main bile duct, which exits (along with the pancreatic duct) into the duodenum at the " papilla of Vater " . What is Bile? ------------- " The bile ducts function as a drainage system for the liver. Bile is a bitter dark fluid, composed of bile acids, bile pigments, bilirubin, cholesterol and other fats, water and electrolytes. Some of these constituents are useful for digestion, others are simply waste products (e.g. cholesterol). How does lack of Bile effect digestion? ---------------------------------------- " Lack of bile also interferes with digestion (particularly of fats) and can also result in steatorrhea (excessive fat in the stools). Lack of bile in the duodenum is usually due to blockage of the main bile duct, or papilla. The liver continues to produce bile, which then spills backwards into the blood stream. Eventually this causes yellow discoloration of the body (jaundice), first noticeable in the whites of the eyes. If bile does not enter the duodenum, bowel movements lose their usual color, and look like putty. When the bile ducts are blocked, retention of bile salts in the blood can result also in considerable itching (pruritus). Blockage of the bile ducts or pancreatic ducts can cause pain due to overdistention. ====== In illnesses where bile is reduced or blocked, such as in Alagille's Syndrome and Biliary Atresia, the digestion and absorption of fat is compromised and inability to gain weight becomes a serious issue. See " What is Alagille's Syndrome? Liver.kids.org http://www.liverkids.org.au/alagille.htm See " What is Biliary Atresia? " GiveLife.org http://www.givelife.org.nz/page.cfm?s=2424,2427,2471,100003650 === Faulty fat absorption due to a lack of bile can also lead to dangerous malabsorption of vitamins and minerals that are necessary for proper health. Calcium, Vitamin K, A, E, and D are some of the nutrients that are affected by bile disruption. Hemorrhagic, urinary and lymphatic problems can occur as a result. " Since the presence of bile in the intestines is essential for the absorption of fats, calcium and Vitamin K, gallstones can lead to life-threatening diseases, such as heart disease, osteoporosis and cancer. The liver uses the fat-soluble Vitamin K to produce the compounds responsible for the clotting of blood. In case of poor Vitamin K absorption, hemorrhagic disease may result. This vitamin cannot be adequately absorbed, if there is any problem with fat digestion, due to lack of bile, pancreatic lipase, and a certain amount of pancreatic fat. For the latter reason, following a low-fat diet can endanger one's life. Calcium is essential for the hardening of bone and teeth, the coagulation of blood and the mechanism of muscle contraction. What applies to Vitamin K also applies to all other fat-soluble vitamins, including Vitamin A, E and D. Vitamin A and carotene are also only absorbed sufficiently from the small intestine if fat absorption is normal. If Vitamin A absorption is inefficient, the epithelial cells become damaged. These cells form an essential part of all the organs, blood vessels, lymph vessels, etc. in the body. Vitamin A is also necessary to maintain healthy eyes and protect against or reduce microbial infection. Vitamin D is essential for calcification of bones and teeth. It may be noted at this point that supplementing these vitamins does not resolve the problem of deficiency. To sum up, without normal bile secretions, these vitamins are not digested and absorbed properly, and therefore, can cause considerable damage to the lymphatic and urinary systems. " Read " Intestinal Diseases. " http://www.ener-chi.com/d_intest.htm > Tina, > Have you ever heard of Kefir? > Kefir is excellent for digestion. > Plus it's a food. > I can't stand to take acidophiilus pills or enzyme > pills they make me sick and they make me bloated, > doesn't seem to matter what the brand is. > Kefir is more popular in Europe, people eat it with > cereals or granola but it's similar to yogurt except > it has way more bacteria, all kinds of different > strands and kefir can actually re-colonize the colon, > yogurt cannot do that. > Yogurt can feed the good bacteria not re-colonize the > colon, This is great because if you are very depleted > of the good bacteria to begin with, eating kefir is > better for you. > When I was vegan I had to practice food combining > diligently because all the grains for some reason made > certain mixtures of foods irritate me. I don't know if > you're familiar with it but (food combining) > involves not mixing meat with grains and eating fruits > alone etc. > My stomach was behaving weird at the time. > Kefir made it possible for me to eat just about > anything and not feel weird. It was pretty much what > made my transition from vegan to omnivore a great > transition. > You get a sense that your stomach is healed. > I'm lucky enough to get raw goat milk kefir (best > quality) because I live in LA however if you don't, > you can get kefir from your local health food store. > It tastes similar to yogurt but a little more sour. > It does wonders for your digestion. > Check out this link > http://www.kefir.net/kefiryogurt.htm > > let me know what you think! > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2005 Report Share Posted September 7, 2005 The bacteria he mentioned earlier is not a bad type of bacteria, it helps in digestion and other actions...look up postings in this forum from 'Will' regarding Kefir, and other things. Will has been quiet lately, I wish he would bring some common sense back top this place. He is real knowledgable on gallbladder issues. I have noticed here lately many people making large assumptions about very complicated issues...take the time and understand fully the data and information, it is important. --- tina83862 <tina83862@...> wrote: > No I have never heard of it but I will look it > up--(thanks) > > From my test results no bacteria problems of any > kind--- > > so that is not the problem > > and with a low lipid profile this does show I am not > absorbing fats?? > or digesting fats?? but--something is not right > because of the > gallstones are forming. > > So now I am looking back into bile acids --info I > found today--fyi-- > any imput is welcomed--tina > > The following website provides an excellent overview > of the digestive > process and the various organs and secretions > involved in proper > digestion. > > " Pancreas and Biliary Tree. " MUSChealth.com. > http://www.muschealth.com/ddc/organ/panc.htm > > Excerpts: > > Where Does Bile Come From? > -------------------------- > " The biliary juices (bile) are made in the tissues > of the liver > (hepatic parenchyma), and then pass into the biliary > ductal system > (picture). Like a river, these ducts gradually join > together to form > one stream in the main bile duct, which exits (along > with the > pancreatic duct) into the duodenum at the " papilla > of Vater " . > > > What is Bile? > ------------- > " The bile ducts function as a drainage system for > the liver. Bile is a > bitter dark fluid, composed of bile acids, bile > pigments, bilirubin, > cholesterol and other fats, water and electrolytes. > Some of these > constituents are useful for digestion, others are > simply waste > products (e.g. cholesterol). > > > How does lack of Bile effect digestion? > ---------------------------------------- > " Lack of bile also interferes with digestion > (particularly of fats) > and can also result in steatorrhea (excessive fat in > the stools). Lack > of bile in the duodenum is usually due to blockage > of the main bile > duct, or papilla. The liver continues to produce > bile, which then > spills backwards into the blood stream. Eventually > this causes yellow > discoloration of the body (jaundice), first > noticeable in the whites > of the eyes. If bile does not enter the duodenum, > bowel movements lose > their usual color, and look like putty. When the > bile ducts are > blocked, retention of bile salts in the blood can > result also in > considerable itching (pruritus). Blockage of the > bile ducts or > pancreatic ducts can cause pain due to > overdistention. > > > ====== > > > In illnesses where bile is reduced or blocked, such > as in Alagille's > Syndrome and Biliary Atresia, the digestion and > absorption of fat is > compromised and inability to gain weight becomes a > serious issue. > > See " What is Alagille's Syndrome? Liver.kids.org > http://www.liverkids.org.au/alagille.htm > > See " What is Biliary Atresia? " GiveLife.org > http://www.givelife.org.nz/page.cfm?s=2424,2427,2471,100003650 > > > === > > > Faulty fat absorption due to a lack of bile can also > lead to dangerous > malabsorption of vitamins and minerals that are > necessary for proper > health. Calcium, Vitamin K, A, E, and D are some of > the nutrients that > are affected by bile disruption. Hemorrhagic, > urinary and lymphatic > problems can occur as a result. > > " Since the presence of bile in the intestines is > essential for the > absorption of fats, calcium and Vitamin K, > gallstones can lead to > life-threatening diseases, such as heart disease, > osteoporosis and > cancer. The liver uses the fat-soluble Vitamin K to > produce the > compounds responsible for the clotting of blood. In > case of poor > Vitamin K absorption, hemorrhagic disease may > result. This vitamin > cannot be adequately absorbed, if there is any > problem with fat > digestion, due to lack of bile, pancreatic lipase, > and a certain > amount of pancreatic fat. For the latter reason, > following a low-fat > diet can endanger one's life. Calcium is essential > for the hardening > of bone and teeth, the coagulation of blood and the > mechanism of > muscle contraction. What applies to Vitamin K also > applies to all > other fat-soluble vitamins, including Vitamin A, E > and D. Vitamin A > and carotene are also only absorbed sufficiently > from the small > intestine if fat absorption is normal. If Vitamin A > absorption is > inefficient, the epithelial cells become damaged. > These cells form an > essential part of all the organs, blood vessels, > lymph vessels, etc. > in the body. Vitamin A is also necessary to maintain > healthy eyes and > protect against or reduce microbial infection. > Vitamin D is essential > for calcification of bones and teeth. It may be > noted at this point > that supplementing these vitamins does not resolve > the problem of > deficiency. To sum up, without normal bile > secretions, these vitamins > are not digested and absorbed properly, and > therefore, can cause > considerable damage to the lymphatic and urinary > systems. " > > Read " Intestinal Diseases. " > http://www.ener-chi.com/d_intest.htm > > > > > > > > > Tina, > > Have you ever heard of Kefir? > > Kefir is excellent for digestion. > > Plus it's a food. > > I can't stand to take acidophiilus pills or enzyme > > pills they make me sick and they make me bloated, > > doesn't seem to matter what the brand is. > > Kefir is more popular in Europe, people eat it > with > > cereals or granola but it's similar to yogurt > except > > it has way more bacteria, all kinds of different > > strands and kefir can actually re-colonize the > colon, > > yogurt cannot do that. > > Yogurt can feed the good bacteria not re-colonize > the > > colon, This is great because if you are very > depleted > > of the good bacteria to begin with, eating kefir > is > > better for you. > > When I was vegan I had to practice food combining > > diligently because all the grains for some reason > made > > certain mixtures of foods irritate me. I don't > know if > > you're familiar with it but (food combining) > > involves not mixing meat with grains and eating > fruits > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 this was my results on the helicobacter pylori Ige antibodies--- negative--this is what I was thinking about not so much the kind that helps in digestion which I somewhat understand. They were looking at the type that cause an ulcer--fyi. also some antibodies are autoimmune and that causes other types of gallbladder diseases from what I read today. I am trying to get down to the bottom of why I have this condition as well found out why I am itchy in my scalp (another symptom). so I am just throwing stuff out there in hopes of figuring things out and maybe someone else can as well. That is better than what you get in the doctors office I hate to say this but it's true. They just assume it's always the common one thing--but it never is!!!!!!!! I am not digesting fats -not ingesting them is really not the answer as it causes a host of other problems that I also have realized--the fatigue--the lack of vitamin K which is why I bleed longer than I should on a simple cut. (slower clotting time) just little things that I have noticed and are trying to fix. As with all these groups you have to do your own homework and keep digging. but it is a great help to be pointed in the right direction!!!!!!!! tina this > > > Tina, > > > Have you ever heard of Kefir? > > > Kefir is excellent for digestion. > > > Plus it's a food. > > > I can't stand to take acidophiilus pills or enzyme > > > pills they make me sick and they make me bloated, > > > doesn't seem to matter what the brand is. > > > Kefir is more popular in Europe, people eat it > > with > > > cereals or granola but it's similar to yogurt > > except > > > it has way more bacteria, all kinds of different > > > strands and kefir can actually re-colonize the > > colon, > > > yogurt cannot do that. > > > Yogurt can feed the good bacteria not re-colonize > > the > > > colon, This is great because if you are very > > depleted > > > of the good bacteria to begin with, eating kefir > > is > > > better for you. > > > When I was vegan I had to practice food combining > > > diligently because all the grains for some reason > > made > > > certain mixtures of foods irritate me. I don't > > know if > > > you're familiar with it but (food combining) > > > involves not mixing meat with grains and eating > > fruits > > > === message truncated === > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2005 Report Share Posted September 8, 2005 Tina, Everyone has bacteria in their gut, good and bad. 'A healthy intestine in both children and adults contains billions of bacteria-including up to 10,000 different species. Optimaly, the body's beneficial or benigh bacteria should outnumber the cells of the body by approximately one-hundred fold. These friendly bacteria in our gut are our first line of immune defense. They displace and fight off unfriendly bacteria and internal fungi that can set the state for illness. They are essential to health as water and food. This is all critical to our health. If harmful bacteria in the gutt gains the upper hand (using birth control pills does this or taking high doses of antibiotics), will wipe out all the bacteria.' NOw you have an imbalance once this happens the race is on as to which micoroorganisms, the good guys or the bad guys, set up shop in that empty real estate inside your gut we can suffer from digestive problems as a result. That's why taking Keifr and HSO's is important. They recolonize your colon with the friendly bacteria, hence dealing with digestive issues. Steroids upset the bacterial balance in your gut as well. Suffering form constipation, diarreah, bloating are all causes of bacterial imbalances in the gut and HSO " S and kefir can deal with this. Stress and medication affect levels of good bacteria in the colon as well. I hope I clarified. Best book on the subject Patient heal Thyself. I've read many books on heatlh and it's by far the best ever!!!! __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 hi tina i just wanted to " chime in " .... when i first started getting relief from the xolair (i get three shots every two weeks) i would have a great week, and then the second week it would gradually fade. it seemed the longer i got the xolair, the longer it would last. i'm assuming it has to build up in your body to last the entire two weeks (or four in some people). i've been on xolair for 20 months, and i'm still not getting 100% relief for the two weeks, but its still so much better than it was. i find the last three or four days in the cycle are about 75% of fabulous, which is still a million times better than what i was two years ago! feel good! heather CHRISTINA DALLAS <misssdallas@...> wrote: I have not written for a bit, but keeping up with the postings. i started xolair about 1 1/2 months ago. i feel like i get relief for about a week then short of breath again. so that i can be grateful. off the prednisone. actually i was writing because there is a company tied in with genentech that helps with copays. i to have a ppo and had a copay of 512.00 a month with a dedutible for the major medical of 500.00. the company is " patient services inc. " the toll free number is 1-800-366-7741 and you send the application back to them have ur dr. fill out their part and copy of check stub and copy of last years taxes. start there. i have had good luck with the process it is an asthma based company and i was lucky to have mine covered at 100% including the major medical deductible. i work as a respiratory therapist in a hospital and didnt think i was able to qualify based on my income. but to my surprize i did. good luck......tina heather <heaven1975@...> wrote: YIKES!! that's insane!!! i hope genetech assistance is able to help you. i know if BCBS billed me that much for the xolair, it would be way out of my reach. good luck with genetech! ~heather ipedlnpadl <IpedLnpadL@...> wrote: I found out today that yes, he was approved but my co-pay on the Blue Cross PPO plan will be $594.00 per month!! As a single Mom, this was a kick in the gut. Not so yooooohoooo right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 thanks heather... for the encouragement!..i know it will take time and your right it is much better than not being able to breathe all the time. at least im off prednisone and taking treatments only once a day or every other. heather <heaven1975@...> wrote:hi tina i just wanted to " chime in " .... when i first started getting relief from the xolair (i get three shots every two weeks) i would have a great week, and then the second week it would gradually fade. it seemed the longer i got the xolair, the longer it would last. i'm assuming it has to build up in your body to last the entire two weeks (or four in some people). i've been on xolair for 20 months, and i'm still not getting 100% relief for the two weeks, but its still so much better than it was. i find the last three or four days in the cycle are about 75% of fabulous, which is still a million times better than what i was two years ago! feel good! heather CHRISTINA DALLAS <misssdallas@...> wrote: I have not written for a bit, but keeping up with the postings. i started xolair about 1 1/2 months ago. i feel like i get relief for about a week then short of breath again. so that i can be grateful. off the prednisone. actually i was writing because there is a company tied in with genentech that helps with copays. i to have a ppo and had a copay of 512.00 a month with a dedutible for the major medical of 500.00. the company is " patient services inc. " the toll free number is 1-800-366-7741 and you send the application back to them have ur dr. fill out their part and copy of check stub and copy of last years taxes. start there. i have had good luck with the process it is an asthma based company and i was lucky to have mine covered at 100% including the major medical deductible. i work as a respiratory therapist in a hospital and didnt think i was able to qualify based on my income. but to my surprize i did. good luck......tina heather <heaven1975@...> wrote: YIKES!! that's insane!!! i hope genetech assistance is able to help you. i know if BCBS billed me that much for the xolair, it would be way out of my reach. good luck with genetech! ~heather ipedlnpadl <IpedLnpadL@...> wrote: I found out today that yes, he was approved but my co-pay on the Blue Cross PPO plan will be $594.00 per month!! As a single Mom, this was a kick in the gut. Not so yooooohoooo right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 HI Tina, You can prevent kidney stones by drinking organic pure cranberry juice no sugar added. Lakewood has a great one. 4 ounces of it is extremely bitter, it's not from concentrate and it's fresh pressed. I drink it in the morning, it also stimulates the bowels, everytime for me. I think it beats taking cranberry capsules. Take care! --- tina83862 <tina83862@...> wrote: > The weird thing is that hubby has kidney stones and > we eat very well- > -always well balanced--lot of veggies, fruits, > proteins--fiber ect. > > I have had a cat scan and so far the kidneys and > liver do not have > stones. But that could just be a matter of time? > > The excess mineralization I think is due to > digestive issues that > are age related so I have been taking HCL with a > large meal and that > has helped digest food as well as the typical > digestive enzyme one > can buy almost anywhere. > > I have also bought some cheletion meds but have not > tried them yet. > > My calcium levels are normal not excessive (hubby's > are higher than > mine) > > and I do have OA in my knees and hips have had it > for sometime now. > I was always an athlete. The OA in the knees has > improved a great > deal on joint supplements. > > The Martyr syndrom no---just doing too much and it > takes years to be > well versed on a subject. Took me at least 5 > studying thyroid and > it's related conditions. ( and I totally respect > someone knowing > more than me on a subject I have not studied) > > The majority of low thyroid people will also have > gallbladder > problems or have them taken out before they even > know they have the > thyroid disease. (it's because of the digestion > issue). > > The underlying disease state is always reflected in > other > tissues/organs. > > Finding the exact cause is always difficult!!!!!!!! > > tina > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tina, you bring up an excellent and overlooked > topic here, the > > fact that most of us with solidified cholesterol > stones also have > > some tendency towards CALCIFIED stones as well. > They appear > > to be separate but oft-related problems. > > > > What you refer to is a body aligned to create > EXCESS > > MINERALIZATION. The same imbalance could give you > kidney > > stones, osteoarthritis, atherosclerosis, > spondylitis and other > > depositions. It really needs to be addressed. > > > > I don't know where you live but I would highly > recommend you > > seek out a professional holistic doctor to guide > you out of this. > > Convention MDs remain hopelessly clueless, at > least 99.9% of > > them. You will eventually be able to track the > source of the > > hyper-mineralization. I would also tend to steer > you towards a > > practitioner of Traditional Chinese Medicine. If > you find one of > the > > good ones, who really knows TCM, they wil go > directly to the root > > of your illness. > > > > It's my belief that no human can survive very long > unless they can > > heal their body to the point where they can take > in a full and > > balanced complement of fats, carbohydrates, > proteins and > > minerals. Anything less is dangerous palliation. > You sound > > stuck where you are. > > > > Additionally, how are you being a holistic healer > if you are > > denying your own health and salvation because you > don't have > > time to heal yourself all due to the task of > SAVING OTHERS? > > Can you say " MARTYR SYNDROME " ? > > > > Will, in Minnesota > > > > > > > __________________________________ FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 I will tell hubby --I do drink a lot of juice now--much more than I used too!!!!!!! buying carrot a lot as well. thanks a lot---tina > > > > > > > > > Tina, you bring up an excellent and overlooked > > topic here, the > > > fact that most of us with solidified cholesterol > > stones also have > > > some tendency towards CALCIFIED stones as well. > > They appear > > > to be separate but oft-related problems. > > > > > > What you refer to is a body aligned to create > > EXCESS > > > MINERALIZATION. The same imbalance could give you > > kidney > > > stones, osteoarthritis, atherosclerosis, > > spondylitis and other > > > depositions. It really needs to be addressed. > > > > > > I don't know where you live but I would highly > > recommend you > > > seek out a professional holistic doctor to guide > > you out of this. > > > Convention MDs remain hopelessly clueless, at > > least 99.9% of > > > them. You will eventually be able to track the > > source of the > > > hyper-mineralization. I would also tend to steer > > you towards a > > > practitioner of Traditional Chinese Medicine. If > > you find one of > > the > > > good ones, who really knows TCM, they wil go > > directly to the root > > > of your illness. > > > > > > It's my belief that no human can survive very long > > unless they can > > > heal their body to the point where they can take > > in a full and > > > balanced complement of fats, carbohydrates, > > proteins and > > > minerals. Anything less is dangerous palliation. > > You sound > > > stuck where you are. > > > > > > Additionally, how are you being a holistic healer > > if you are > > > denying your own health and salvation because you > > don't have > > > time to heal yourself all due to the task of > > SAVING OTHERS? > > > Can you say " MARTYR SYNDROME " ? > > > > > > Will, in Minnesota > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. > http://farechase. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 Tina - What I was concerned about with your recommendation of drinking epsom/juice right now is that on Dr. s flush site it says not to eat anything after 2:00 (meaning 4 hours before you start the epsom flush) because you may get very ill. Thats why I didnt drink the salts last night because I just ate dinner and didnt know if drinking the salts would make me ill. Please advise! Thanks On 9 Dec 2005 at 19:39, tina83862 wrote: > Everyone has a different type of pain capacitiy and I will tell you > right now go get the epsom salts and mix it will any kind of juice > and get it down---at least one tablespoon. That will GREATLY relieve > pain so you can think clearly. > > hubby sees many a skinny man with heart disease!!!!!!!!!!!! > > tina Learn more from our experience, over 7.000 liver flush stories: http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=4 http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=80 http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=100 http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=112 Liver Cleanse Recipe: http://CureZone.com/cleanse/liver/ Liver Flush FAQ: http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=73 Images: http://CureZone.com/image_gallery/cleanse_flush/ http://CureZone.com/image_gallery/intrahepatic_stones/ To unsubscribe, send blank e-mail to: gallstones-unsubscribe and then reply to confirmation message! To Post message: gallstones Subscribe: gallstones-subscribe Web Sites for more information: http://CureZone.org http://www.liverdoctor.com/ http://www.sensiblehealth.com/ http://www.cyberpog.com/health/index.htm http://www.relfe.com/gall_stone_cleanse.html http://www.cleansingorsurgery.com/ Group page: gallstones To change your subscription to digest send blank e-mail to: gallstones-digest To change your subscription to NO-MAIL send blank e-mail to: gallstones-nomail To change your subscription to NORMAL send blank e-mail to: gallstones-normal You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the Gallstones group on 's groups. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself! Have a nice day ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2005 Report Share Posted December 10, 2005 you must of missed of few of the other posters who mentioned you to try this first to see if you had some relief ( I wanted you to wait until you knew for sure it was the GB and not the kidney)---it's a procedure that will open the bile ducts and when you are in pain it can help relieve it. I have gotten up in the middle of the night to drink the epsom salts with juice to relieve the pain. What it does in a smaller amount is to open up the ducts so some of the sludge/stones may either pass or get un-stuck. I find that when I do a flush and don't drink enough epsom salts I can have a stone stuck or it just feels like that. So I drink more of it.--when it doubt drink more of it. And yes it will make you go to the bathroom if you drink a lot of it. This can be done at any time before a flush. and yes it is easier with no food in your stomach. I will say that after my attack in June that was the worst of it-- now I just get pain in my back but nothing like that first attack. Now I can plan when I do a flush and prepare ahead of time. The more I learn the more I realize I must keep my GB!!!!! And costs here in CA I was quoted upwards closer to 20k--so that is expensive!!!!! tina > > > Everyone has a different type of pain capacitiy and I will tell you > > right now go get the epsom salts and mix it will any kind of juice > > and get it down---at least one tablespoon. That will GREATLY relieve > > pain so you can think clearly. > > > > hubby sees many a skinny man with heart disease!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > tina > > > > > > Learn more from our experience, over 7.000 liver flush stories: > http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=4 > http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=80 > http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=100 > http://curezone.com/forums/fd50.asp?f=112 > > Liver Cleanse Recipe: http://CureZone.com/cleanse/liver/ > > Liver Flush FAQ: http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=73 > > Images: > http://CureZone.com/image_gallery/cleanse_flush/ > http://CureZone.com/image_gallery/intrahepatic_stones/ > > To unsubscribe, send blank e-mail to: gallstones- unsubscribe and then reply to confirmation message! > > To Post message: gallstones > Subscribe: gallstones-subscribe > > Web Sites for more information: > http://CureZone.org > http://www.liverdoctor.com/ > http://www.sensiblehealth.com/ > http://www.cyberpog.com/health/index.htm > http://www.relfe.com/gall_stone_cleanse.html > http://www.cleansingorsurgery.com/ > > Group page: gallstones > > To change your subscription to digest send blank e-mail to: gallstones-digest > To change your subscription to NO-MAIL send blank e-mail to: gallstones-nomail > To change your subscription to NORMAL send blank e-mail to: gallstones-normal > You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the Gallstones group on 's groups. By joining the list you agree to hold yourself FULLY responsible FOR yourself! > Have a nice day ! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Hi~I checked out this product and to get your own opinion you should check out this website, and maybe a few others. Just don't like the idea that it hasn't been around long enough to know about potential side-effects. http://www.raysahelian.com/serrapeptase.html herbladie  I have been helping woman with thyroid and related conditions for ten years now and I have seen so much misdiagnoised woman and men in this area. It's really unbelievable. And yeast is a big one for thyroid and diabetes. Espeically if you have had it for years. Most doctors can not read blood work---- and no mercury fillings and arsenic do not cause these conditions. poisiong does not help anyone but our bodies can handle more of it then we think. Thanks to the GB!! and our fats. Serrapeptase really helps with celation for some people---so if you think you have high levels and have been tested (hair, or blood) you may want to take it for at least 6 months and get cleaned out blood wise. That is where this supplement really does it's job. If you have also tried large dosing of vitamin C (like 5 grams a day for months and have not conquered yeast than I would surely get retested for thyroid/diabetes) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Sorry about the order of these posts. Dr. Ray Sahelian is another warrior in the battle. Anything militaristic can potentially be negative in the wrong amount. We have to ask, " If it dissolves unwanted protein masses, what can it do to wanted protein masses? " To not ask these types of questions would be unwise at best... The answer is: Exactly the same thing. So in order to determine whether a particular application or dosage is appropriate, we must have more than protocol available (unless the science is complete). This may then enter into the realm of " spirit " , " body language " , " intuition " , and the like... Just a thought... -D Re: Re: Tina Hi~I checked out this product and to get your own opinion you should check out this website, and maybe a few others. Just don't like the idea that it hasn't been around long enough to know about potential side-effects. http://www.raysahelian.com/serrapeptase.html<http://www.raysahelian.com/serrapep\ tase.html> herbladie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 Ya Tina, I had a cousin that was DYING literally and was bedridden. She had her fillings out and is totally well today! Money is a HUGE issue when it comes to getting mercury fillings removed, and with 7 of them to take out, it isn't likely to happen unless I get a freebee as the estimates run around $10,000 and more as I also have some missing teeth and have JUST enough teeth left to chew OK if I take my time. Thanks for your input, I am sure this is the problem since I have tried EVERYTHING even fantastic things that most people have probably never heard of including all the electronic devices on the market LOL. I spent somewhere around $100,000 to get well back when my hubby was alive but now that he is deceased, I have just enough income to make out OK if I am careful. Unfortuneately, at that time I did not recognise fillings as a problem nor did I have the arsenic poisoning on top of it or I would have had them out and got chelation therapy plus ozone. Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2010 Report Share Posted February 23, 2010 I had seven mercury fillings replaced at virtually no cost to me. And it was a mercury-free dentist that used all of the extra precautions and procedures that should be undertaken during removal. Of course, it depends on whether you have dental insurance or not. But even if you don't, you can still get it done relatively cheaply. I do have dental insurance and my mercury-free dentist does not charge any more than a regular-dentist for replacing a mercury filling. I did have to pay a portion of the bill due to the fact that it was restorative. I don't remember my total bill for the seven fillings, but I am sure that it was not more than a few hundred dollars. And he did a terrific job. With all of that said, are there mercury-free dentists like that in your area? I have no idea. You may have to travel to get it done cheaply. The first mercury-free dentist that I contacted did in fact want several thousand dollars. Shop around. Good luck to you. From: gallstones [mailto:gallstones ] On Behalf Of ectopistes@... Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 9:02 AM gallstones Subject: Re: Re: Tina Ya Tina, I had a cousin that was DYING literally and was bedridden. She had her fillings out and is totally well today! Money is a HUGE issue when it comes to getting mercury fillings removed, and with 7 of them to take out, it isn't likely to happen unless I get a freebee as the estimates run around $10,000 and more as I also have some missing teeth and have JUST enough teeth left to chew OK if I take my time. Thanks for your input, I am sure this is the problem since I have tried EVERYTHING even fantastic things that most people have probably never heard of including all the electronic devices on the market LOL. I spent somewhere around $100,000 to get well back when my hubby was alive but now that he is deceased, I have just enough income to make out OK if I am careful. Unfortuneately, at that time I did not recognise fillings as a problem nor did I have the arsenic poisoning on top of it or I would have had them out and got chelation therapy plus ozone. Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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