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Teri in Oregon,

Sorry to hear about you set back. You didn't say who your insurance is,

however, maybe you could try getting it approved on your own. First you have

to read your insurer's policy manual to see if obesity related surgeries are

covered. If you don't have one, ask for one at work or call your insurance

company and ask them to send you one. If obesity is covered there may be

things you have to do to show medical necessity. First and foremost I would

suggest getting that manual so you can see for yourself what is covered and

what is not and go from there. Good Luck!

Kelli G

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Have you tried Oregon Health Science University. They just started doing

lapband surgery in Jan. They are also starting a study on the affects of

lapband surgery and diabetes. I think Dr Macabee is the doctor, but not sure.

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Terri,

Dont give up and dont be blue. Keep looking for a way. I just got

a credit offer from American express " blue " . They will loan me the

money to pay off some of my balance on my credit card and give me 15

months with no interest on it. Well I dont have a high limit but

with the money I saved already I will be able to go to Mexico for

the operation. Then Ill have the 15 months to pay it off. So I am

gathering information now with Mexico in mind and hope to be ready

soon.

Insurance is such a bitch...They would pay for a gall bladder

operation for me and then I could pay for the " band " part but they

would only cover someone local. Guess what? No one local does the

lap surgery for stomach or gall bladder and Im not going to let them

slice and dice me.

Im 54 years old and I can not wait for future discoveries and local

doctors to improve their expertese. I want the weight and pain to

start going away and have found that " lap banding " is to Mexico

as " lasic " eye surgery is to Canada. Ahead of the good old USA.

Diane

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Deb,

I can't remember if you have actually joined a pain clinic. I think that, if

anything, that is what I would do if I were in your shoes. It may take a

little time until they land on the combination of things or whatever that would

give you relief. I do believe in pain clinics, though, mostly because they

have been a good help for me. One has to be patient with them, though, because

they try one thing and another until they find just the right thing for the

patient.

Wishing you a happy and pain free New Year, as well as blowing doors with

your degree.

Carole

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Deb M: I had fusion from T-4 to L-4 in 1984 with Harrington rods (2).

I went in 9 months later and had the rods removed. The top and bottom

curves have gotten worse over the years (I had three children after the

fusion) and I am in constant pain. When the pain got REALLY bad a

couple of years ago, I went to physical therapy. The therapist

recommended exercises in the heated, deep, therapy pool. Basically I

worked with floties and then spent a half hour treading water in the

deed end of the pool. For some reason, after about three weeks, this

provided a great deal of relief from the pain. I so looked forward to

the heated pool. Sometimes I would just float out in the deep end with

two " noodles " one wrapped around the front and one around the back.

Something about just hanging out there in the heated water was very

helpful. I don't know if this would work for you but its worth a try.

ita

Disappointing news

Hello, Feisty Friends! I've been incommunicado for weeks now -

finishing up my master's thesis and getting in as many dr.'s

appointments as possible before the new year. (The thesis passed the

oral defense, but I have a TON of revisions! due 1/5.)

I have now had extensive x-rays and an MRI for the last 2 vertebral

disks below fusion. I've seen both Dr. Booth in Pleasanton (twice)

and Dr. Hu in San Francisco. They both concur. There's nothing to do

at this point. The disks are fine, there is only slight sagittal

imbalance at this point, and the fusion and hardware are in good

shape. Like other back patients, there is nothing they can point to

that screams " This is why you are having so much pain. " Dr. Hu

recommended injections in the facet joints below the fusion, as

there was some swelling and extra arthritis there. No guarantee that

will help, of course, as not sure that's really what's causing all

the trouble.

I am very disappointed to say the least. While I do not want to have

surgery, I had hoped there would be something that could be done.

Basically I need to put up with the pain. I'm allergic to most

NSAIDs, and most narcotics make it impossible for me to have any

kind of life. So I have to choose between (1) not being in pain, but

feeling woozy and unable to be independent and (2) being in pain and

managing to have a job, life, etc., just with huge compromises about

mobility and commitments.

I can't say I like these options. I guess I'm back to where I was

before I got my hopes up that there was something that really could

stop the pain. Any words of wisdom from those of you who've been

down this road before?

Deb M.

1989 harrington rod

Fusion T3 - L4

Support for scoliosis-surgery veterans with Harrington Rod Malalignment

Syndrome. Not medical advice. Group does not control ads or endorse any

advertised products.

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Deb,

I'm sorry to hear your disappointing news. This must be an additional stress on

top of the Master's thesis finale. Thanks for keeping us posted.

I have had severe problems staying awake on narcotics in the past but have

developed some ability to tolerate doses that help my pain considerably. It has

taken a good deal of patience and careful " titration " with close help from my

docs, that's for sure. I would urge you to look into all possibilities, since

you may yet find a sufficiently potent medication (or a dosage form -- patch,

whatever) that you can tolerate a little better. Some of the literature on pain

medicine and management of chronic pain that we've chatted about at this group

might be helpful. I am always " pushing " that one little book I keep referring

everyone too, Handbook of Pain Management? -- something like that; but only

because it is so good -- a really refreshing oasis in a desert of medical

misinformatoin and moralizing at the time of my last big library-search. (See

my Amazon review in the feisty files.) Also, I would urge you to check out Dr.

Rosenfeld's excellent new book on pain management, likewise mentioned in our

files. (He emailed me permission to quote from it, but so far I have not found

a version of the excerpt in Parade magazine -- which he edits -- that is

available for quoting online.)

I hope the injections afford you some relief. As I mentioned here, I was

surprised at the efficacy of trigger-point lidocaine for killing the pain at the

site of my iliac bolts, at least temporarily.

I guess it goes without saying, too, that it couldn't hurt to get another

expert opinion.

Take care, and do keep writing. If you haven't already told us, what field are

you getting your Master's in, and what are your plans for the future? I truly

hope you can find a way to continue with all that you intend to do.

Best,

Disappointing news

Hello, Feisty Friends! I've been incommunicado for weeks now -

finishing up my master's thesis and getting in as many dr.'s

appointments as possible before the new year. (The thesis passed the

oral defense, but I have a TON of revisions! due 1/5.)

I have now had extensive x-rays and an MRI for the last 2 vertebral

disks below fusion. I've seen both Dr. Booth in Pleasanton (twice)

and Dr. Hu in San Francisco. They both concur. There's nothing to do

at this point. The disks are fine, there is only slight sagittal

imbalance at this point, and the fusion and hardware are in good

shape. Like other back patients, there is nothing they can point to

that screams " This is why you are having so much pain. " Dr. Hu

recommended injections in the facet joints below the fusion, as

there was some swelling and extra arthritis there. No guarantee that

will help, of course, as not sure that's really what's causing all

the trouble.

I am very disappointed to say the least. While I do not want to have

surgery, I had hoped there would be something that could be done.

Basically I need to put up with the pain. I'm allergic to most

NSAIDs, and most narcotics make it impossible for me to have any

kind of life. So I have to choose between (1) not being in pain, but

feeling woozy and unable to be independent and (2) being in pain and

managing to have a job, life, etc., just with huge compromises about

mobility and commitments.

I can't say I like these options. I guess I'm back to where I was

before I got my hopes up that there was something that really could

stop the pain. Any words of wisdom from those of you who've been

down this road before?

Deb M.

1989 harrington rod

Fusion T3 - L4

Support for scoliosis-surgery veterans with Harrington Rod Malalignment

Syndrome. Not medical advice. Group does not control ads or endorse any

advertised products.

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Hi ita. I read your post about the heated water therapy pool. It

sounds like heaven to me to be able to lay there supported by the floats,

relaxing in a deep water heated pool, as I am struggling with a good

deal of pain these days. I was wondering how you found a therapist who

has such a large facility in which be able to have a large pool of water.

I live in the suburbs outside of NYC and space is at a minimum. Could you

let me know what to look for in the yellow pages for such a facility. Do

you think they might possibly take insurance for partial payment? Thank

you....Carol

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Carol: I was referred to the therapist by an orthopeadic surgeon I had

seen (she has since been killed in a tragic head-on car crash). I

visited with the physical therapist who assessed my condition and worked

up a series of water exercises that I could perform. The pool was set

up to accomodate handicapped persons with a wheelchair ramp, etc. I so

enjoyed the water and got to know several of the regulars as well. The

pool was housed inside a physical therapy clinic which also had machines

for people to use for rehab purposes. My insurance paid for each

session and I paid a $15.00 co-pay. After a while, the therapist said I

could come as an " independent " . At that point, I was charged $50.00 per

month for the use of the pool. I went three times each week for one

hour sessions. I would check with the orthopeadic doctors in your area

and ask for a referral to a therapist who specializes in exercises for

the pool. I live in Austin, TX. Your area of the country is more

populated than Austin, so I bet there is a similar clinic there. Write

and let me know what you find out......ita

Re: Disappointing news

Hi ita. I read your post about the heated water therapy pool. It

sounds like heaven to me to be able to lay there supported by the

floats,

relaxing in a deep water heated pool, as I am struggling with a good

deal of pain these days. I was wondering how you found a therapist who

has such a large facility in which be able to have a large pool of

water.

I live in the suburbs outside of NYC and space is at a minimum. Could

you

let me know what to look for in the yellow pages for such a facility.

Do

you think they might possibly take insurance for partial payment? Thank

you....Carol

________________________________________________________________

The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand!

Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!

Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Support for scoliosis-surgery veterans with Harrington Rod Malalignment

Syndrome. Not medical advice. Group does not control ads or endorse any

advertised products.

_____

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  • 1 year later...

>

>

> got a URI several weeks ago and was having trouble kicking it.

then

> I started having pain in my chest when breathing, especially when

> laying down.

>

> Saw my dr - problem was pleurisy related to a non-asthmatic

> condition that I have had for several years. Went on a burst of

> pred and it cleared right up after a few days.

>

> Bad news is I don't need pred for asthma, but can't do without it.

>

> This is a big disappointment because I was hoping to get off it.

>

> I think I am going to see about changing my meds to incorporate the

> use of pred. Since I am stuck with it maybe I don't need some of

> the other stuff. At least pred is cheap.

>

> On the plus side - had snow this weekend and I taught my oldest (6

> yr old) how to ski. No asthma symptoms at all. We had a blast.

>

> Oh well - better pred than dead.

>

> Greg

Greg,

I am so sorry to hear this. Hopefully, they will keep you on a small

pred dose.

Doug

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