Re: New member story

Posted April 21, 2003 · April 21, 2003

This was a hard story for you to tell; a hard one to listen to. In searching

for a fix for our affliction, Rob and I have decided to stop our caffeine

intake, forget the metabolism boost, and focus on the things we have control

over -- on the things that bring us calm rather than anxiety.

Sincerely,

Aucott

Posted April 21, 2003 · April 21, 2003

Bobby,

When I was younger I wanted to be taller too, but as I got older I realized

its not one's height that is the issue, but how some people are about it.

" If I could change the world " I sound like an Clapton song.;-) I would

do it, but don't have time, energy for it. I try and spread the world about

being short is like anything else and not something awful to be. I know I

can't change everyone. I feel sorry for people who not only think negatively

about people with dwarfism but other people cause I feel someday in their

life they will have to come to terms with that.

I'm 4'3 " pretty sharp, funny, pretty, determined. I'm the kind of person who

likes someone for who they are inside. I'm the kind of person who wants

people to look at me as Helen first, lady with dwarfism second. I'm proud to

be little and I don't deny being little but being little to me is not the

whole me. I'm someone who is a sister, aunt, cousin, friend, neighbor,

coworker and more importantly pet-mother.

I'm out marketing myself in the job market. I want someone out there to

believe in me as far as my ability to do the work that I'm applying for.

I'm a single woman who is back into the dating world when I look for a man to

date I look for someone who is smart, funny, attractive. I don't mean a Mr.

Bookworm or a Mr. Clown. Someone who is pretty knowledgeable and who makes

you laugh. When I mean attractive I don't mean a Mr. Male Model kind I mean

someone who you get a connection feel with.

Be who you are and if certain people are so concerned about your height they

are not worth anything they're superficial and those kind I away from.

Helen

Posted April 21, 2003 · April 21, 2003

Is there a drink for those of us that are happy and content being the

height we are?

Matt

New Member Story

Hey,

I am a new member. I thought I could come here and benifit everyone in

here

by sharing my stories and knowledge.

When I was 14 years old I really wanted to be 6'feet and I was willing

to do

anything to become that tall. I thought if I was 6'feet tall I could

attract

the person I desired and be a celebrity easily, I even turned to Satanic

and

other stuff regarding religion that will help me grow. From my 2 years

of

looking and dabbling around. I have found the most effective way to be

as

tall as I want to be and that is through prayer. Anyway I gave up on my

dream

of being 6 feet tall and figure I'd let nature or God ( subconscious

mind )

to grow me naturally. I am now 19 years old and I'm 5'2 in a half now.

Although I am happy with my height I still want to grow taller

especially if

I know I can. You see I learned something through my search that our

subconscious mind grows our body unconsciously according to the image

and

feeling we have of ourselves add beliefs and fears.. The thing is growth

doesn't stop there, you can actually grow your body at will using prayer

or

hypnosis whatever feels comfortable to you. If any of you can benifit

from

free information that I have to share just email me and let me know

what you

guys think. I hope I stir up some feelings of passion and zest for

life...telling you guys this story brings about strong feelings of youth

and

hope.

Now this knowledge is universal it applies to all human beings, dwarf or

not,

you still can grow your body at will. Although I am not a dwarf, I have

the

desire to grow and help others on the way as I go. Now I don't mean to

offend

anyone by sending this email, my goal is to share this knowledge.

=============

INEXPENSIVE PROTEIN DRINK - MILK SHAKE

1 cup of milk (regular or dry) or soy beverage

1 banana

1 egg (whole or just white of an egg)

you can also add chocolate

==========================================================

SLEEP

If you measure the height of your body before you go to sleep

and when you get up, you may notice that your height increased

while you were asleep. This happens because during the day,

while you are in upright position, your bones and joints are

compressing because of earth's gravitation. While you sleep

(in horizontal position), your bones and joints are

decompressing and the body becomes longer.

Your body grows while you sleep. It is during the night that

your body releases growth hormones, as well as decompresses.

While it is generally recommended that you sleep for 8 - 10

hours, each individual has different needs.

It is recommended that you sleep on a flat, firm bed and

preferably without a pillow.

Right before you go to sleep do one of the following: either listen to

the tape, or do the exercises below (doing them only

in your mind is just fine).

==========================================================

PHYSICAL EXERCISE

Dr. Jeana Phillman, a medical doctor at San Pediatric

Hospital states that according to studies - you will grow

another inch if you hang on a bar every day for five minutes,

for about three months. To improve your chances of growth, she

recommends you take two big orange calcium tablets (50 ml)

and take one in the morning and another in the evening.

DOING THE EXERCISE IN YOUR MIND

As you may have guessed, you can actually do the whole

exercise in your mind. You can close your eyes, take three deep

breaths to help you relax and IMAGINE yourself hanging on the

bar (for five minutes a day), FEELING it as REAL as you can. As

Dr. kson said, " You can PRETEND anything and master it. "

Numerous experiments in sports performance have proven that

the exercises performed in mind only (through self-hypnosis)

have the same effectiveness as the ones performed physically.

If you guys are serious growing taller, and stirring up your desire to

be

taller if you wish too.........email me

===

Posted April 21, 2003 · April 21, 2003

good one matt

i agree why change? you are the height you are. i dont agree with these ops

either to make your legs longer and to be taller. i dont see the point in going

through so much pain to be a few inches taller to then later in life most likely

end up in a wheelchair cos you cant walk due to the pain .

Stephy

Matt Roloff <mroloff@...> wrote:

Is there a drink for those of us that are happy and content being the

height we are?

Matt

New Member Story

Hey,

I am a new member. I thought I could come here and benifit everyone in

here

by sharing my stories and knowledge.

When I was 14 years old I really wanted to be 6'feet and I was willing

to do

anything to become that tall. I thought if I was 6'feet tall I could

attract

the person I desired and be a celebrity easily, I even turned to Satanic

and

other stuff regarding religion that will help me grow. From my 2 years

of

looking and dabbling around. I have found the most effective way to be

as

tall as I want to be and that is through prayer. Anyway I gave up on my

dream

of being 6 feet tall and figure I'd let nature or God ( subconscious

mind )

to grow me naturally. I am now 19 years old and I'm 5'2 in a half now.

Although I am happy with my height I still want to grow taller

especially if

I know I can. You see I learned something through my search that our

subconscious mind grows our body unconsciously according to the image

and

feeling we have of ourselves add beliefs and fears.. The thing is growth

doesn't stop there, you can actually grow your body at will using prayer

or

hypnosis whatever feels comfortable to you. If any of you can benifit

from

free information that I have to share just email me and let me know

what you

guys think. I hope I stir up some feelings of passion and zest for

life...telling you guys this story brings about strong feelings of youth

and

hope.

Now this knowledge is universal it applies to all human beings, dwarf or

not,

you still can grow your body at will. Although I am not a dwarf, I have

the

desire to grow and help others on the way as I go. Now I don't mean to

offend

anyone by sending this email, my goal is to share this knowledge.

=============

INEXPENSIVE PROTEIN DRINK - MILK SHAKE

1 cup of milk (regular or dry) or soy beverage

1 banana

1 egg (whole or just white of an egg)

you can also add chocolate

==========================================================

SLEEP

If you measure the height of your body before you go to sleep

and when you get up, you may notice that your height increased

while you were asleep. This happens because during the day,

while you are in upright position, your bones and joints are

compressing because of earth's gravitation. While you sleep

(in horizontal position), your bones and joints are

decompressing and the body becomes longer.

Your body grows while you sleep. It is during the night that

your body releases growth hormones, as well as decompresses.

While it is generally recommended that you sleep for 8 - 10

hours, each individual has different needs.

It is recommended that you sleep on a flat, firm bed and

preferably without a pillow.

Right before you go to sleep do one of the following: either listen to

the tape, or do the exercises below (doing them only

in your mind is just fine).

==========================================================

PHYSICAL EXERCISE

Dr. Jeana Phillman, a medical doctor at San Pediatric

Hospital states that according to studies - you will grow

another inch if you hang on a bar every day for five minutes,

for about three months. To improve your chances of growth, she

recommends you take two big orange calcium tablets (50 ml)

and take one in the morning and another in the evening.

DOING THE EXERCISE IN YOUR MIND

As you may have guessed, you can actually do the whole

exercise in your mind. You can close your eyes, take three deep

breaths to help you relax and IMAGINE yourself hanging on the

bar (for five minutes a day), FEELING it as REAL as you can. As

Dr. kson said, " You can PRETEND anything and master it. "

Numerous experiments in sports performance have proven that

the exercises performed in mind only (through self-hypnosis)

have the same effectiveness as the ones performed physically.

If you guys are serious growing taller, and stirring up your desire to

be

taller if you wish too.........email me

===

Posted April 21, 2003 · April 21, 2003

>

> Is there a drink for those of us that are happy and content being

> the height we are?

>

> Matt

Yes Matt, there is such a drink. It is called Mountian Dew Code Red.

I drink copious amounts of it and am as happy as can be. Albeit I do

visit the facilities quite often, still it is a wonderful concoction.

M.

Posted April 21, 2003 · April 21, 2003

Got anything to make my hair grow back?

-Bill

New Member Story

Hey,

I am a new member. I thought I could come here and benifit everyone in here

by sharing my stories and knowledge.

When I was 14 years old I really wanted to be 6'feet and I was willing to do

anything to become that tall. I thought if I was 6'feet tall I could attract

the person I desired and be a celebrity easily, I even turned to Satanic and

other stuff regarding religion that will help me grow. From my 2 years of

looking and dabbling around. I have found the most effective way to be as

tall as I want to be and that is through prayer. Anyway I gave up on my dream

of being 6 feet tall and figure I'd let nature or God ( subconscious mind )

to grow me naturally. I am now 19 years old and I'm 5'2 in a half now.

Although I am happy with my height I still want to grow taller especially if

I know I can. You see I learned something through my search that our

subconscious mind grows our body unconsciously according to the image and

feeling we have of ourselves add beliefs and fears.. The thing is growth

doesn't stop there, you can actually grow your body at will using prayer or

hypnosis whatever feels comfortable to you. If any of you can benifit from

free information that I have to share just email me and let me know what you

guys think. I hope I stir up some feelings of passion and zest for

life...telling you guys this story brings about strong feelings of youth and

hope.

Now this knowledge is universal it applies to all human beings, dwarf or not,

you still can grow your body at will. Although I am not a dwarf, I have the

desire to grow and help others on the way as I go. Now I don't mean to offend

anyone by sending this email, my goal is to share this knowledge.

=============

INEXPENSIVE PROTEIN DRINK - MILK SHAKE

1 cup of milk (regular or dry) or soy beverage

1 banana

1 egg (whole or just white of an egg)

you can also add chocolate

==========================================================

SLEEP

If you measure the height of your body before you go to sleep

and when you get up, you may notice that your height increased

while you were asleep. This happens because during the day,

while you are in upright position, your bones and joints are

compressing because of earth's gravitation. While you sleep

(in horizontal position), your bones and joints are

decompressing and the body becomes longer.

Your body grows while you sleep. It is during the night that

your body releases growth hormones, as well as decompresses.

While it is generally recommended that you sleep for 8 - 10

hours, each individual has different needs.

It is recommended that you sleep on a flat, firm bed and

preferably without a pillow.

Right before you go to sleep do one of the following: either

listen to the tape, or do the exercises below (doing them only

in your mind is just fine).

==========================================================

PHYSICAL EXERCISE

Dr. Jeana Phillman, a medical doctor at San Pediatric

Hospital states that according to studies - you will grow

another inch if you hang on a bar every day for five minutes,

for about three months. To improve your chances of growth, she

recommends you take two big orange calcium tablets (50 ml)

and take one in the morning and another in the evening.

DOING THE EXERCISE IN YOUR MIND

As you may have guessed, you can actually do the whole

exercise in your mind. You can close your eyes, take three deep

breaths to help you relax and IMAGINE yourself hanging on the

bar (for five minutes a day), FEELING it as REAL as you can. As

Dr. kson said, " You can PRETEND anything and master it. "

Numerous experiments in sports performance have proven that

the exercises performed in mind only (through self-hypnosis)

have the same effectiveness as the ones performed physically.

If you guys are serious growing taller, and stirring up your desire to be

taller if you wish too.........email me

Posted April 21, 2003 · April 21, 2003

Well, I had not intended to respond to this message, but given some of the

responses I have seen, I feel I have to say something. First, for those

who believe otherwise, the only ways to become taller are through growth

hormone injections or through surgical limb lengthening. There are no

magic tricks or potions out there to significantly increase one's

height. Second, while I understand that some get tired of this issue and

enjoy casting aspersions at those who wish to become taller you should take

a look at what you are doing and remember how much you like it when others

make fun of and criticize you. There is never an excuse for such behavior

and given the number of people on this list you never know who might be

reading what you say. Finally to repeat a very old refrain, there are many

people out there who choose to have this done simply because it makes their

lives functionally easier. It has nothing to do with how society, their

peers or anyone else views them, it is strictly an issue of function. Limb

lengthening is a serious procedure with serious consequences if things go

wrong. Let's spend our time figuring out what doctors are doing this

safely and then helping those who want this find those doctors rather than

putting people down for personal choices. As always, just my

opinion. Gillian.

Posted April 21, 2003 · April 21, 2003

Well Bill.... I know one thing for sure! Putting out another newsletter

isn't going to help.

....Have you considered cutting some of your extra beard off and gluing

that up top? You are talking about that cute little patch your missing

on the top right?

Matt

P.S. By the way, Great job on the newsletter conference call last

Sunday. I'm extremely excited about what you have planned. Thanks

for volunteering to do another one.

Re: New Member Story

Got anything to make my hair grow back?

-Bill

New Member Story

Hey,

I am a new member. I thought I could come here and benifit everyone in

here

by sharing my stories and knowledge.

When I was 14 years old I really wanted to be 6'feet and I was willing

to do

anything to become that tall. I thought if I was 6'feet tall I could

attract

the person I desired and be a celebrity easily, I even turned to

Satanic and

other stuff regarding religion that will help me grow. From my 2 years

of

looking and dabbling around. I have found the most effective way to be

as

tall as I want to be and that is through prayer. Anyway I gave up on

my dream

of being 6 feet tall and figure I'd let nature or God ( subconscious

mind )

to grow me naturally. I am now 19 years old and I'm 5'2 in a half now.

Although I am happy with my height I still want to grow taller

especially if

I know I can. You see I learned something through my search that our

subconscious mind grows our body unconsciously according to the image

and

feeling we have of ourselves add beliefs and fears.. The thing is

growth

doesn't stop there, you can actually grow your body at will using

prayer or

hypnosis whatever feels comfortable to you. If any of you can benifit

from

free information that I have to share just email me and let me know

what you

guys think. I hope I stir up some feelings of passion and zest for

life...telling you guys this story brings about strong feelings of

youth and

hope.

Now this knowledge is universal it applies to all human beings, dwarf

or not,

you still can grow your body at will. Although I am not a dwarf, I

have the

desire to grow and help others on the way as I go. Now I don't mean to

offend

anyone by sending this email, my goal is to share this knowledge.

=============

INEXPENSIVE PROTEIN DRINK - MILK SHAKE

1 cup of milk (regular or dry) or soy beverage

1 banana

1 egg (whole or just white of an egg)

you can also add chocolate

==========================================================

SLEEP

If you measure the height of your body before you go to sleep

and when you get up, you may notice that your height increased

while you were asleep. This happens because during the day,

while you are in upright position, your bones and joints are

compressing because of earth's gravitation. While you sleep

(in horizontal position), your bones and joints are

decompressing and the body becomes longer.

Your body grows while you sleep. It is during the night that

your body releases growth hormones, as well as decompresses.

While it is generally recommended that you sleep for 8 - 10

hours, each individual has different needs.

It is recommended that you sleep on a flat, firm bed and

preferably without a pillow.

Right before you go to sleep do one of the following: either

listen to the tape, or do the exercises below (doing them only

in your mind is just fine).

==========================================================

PHYSICAL EXERCISE

Dr. Jeana Phillman, a medical doctor at San Pediatric

Hospital states that according to studies - you will grow

another inch if you hang on a bar every day for five minutes,

for about three months. To improve your chances of growth, she

recommends you take two big orange calcium tablets (50 ml)

and take one in the morning and another in the evening.

DOING THE EXERCISE IN YOUR MIND

As you may have guessed, you can actually do the whole

exercise in your mind. You can close your eyes, take three deep

breaths to help you relax and IMAGINE yourself hanging on the

bar (for five minutes a day), FEELING it as REAL as you can. As

Dr. kson said, " You can PRETEND anything and master it. "

Numerous experiments in sports performance have proven that

the exercises performed in mind only (through self-hypnosis)

have the same effectiveness as the ones performed physically.

If you guys are serious growing taller, and stirring up your desire to

be

taller if you wish too.........email me

Posted April 21, 2003 · April 21, 2003

Awesome post! And very true!

~Bon

> Well, I had not intended to respond to this message, but given some

of the

> responses I have seen, I feel I have to say something. First, for

those

> who believe otherwise, the only ways to become taller are through

growth

> hormone injections or through surgical limb lengthening. There are

no

> magic tricks or potions out there to significantly increase one's

> height. Second, while I understand that some get tired of this

issue and

> enjoy casting aspersions at those who wish to become taller you

should take

> a look at what you are doing and remember how much you like it when

others

> make fun of and criticize you. There is never an excuse for such

behavior

> and given the number of people on this list you never know who

might be

> reading what you say. Finally to repeat a very old refrain, there

are many

> people out there who choose to have this done simply because it

makes their

> lives functionally easier. It has nothing to do with how society,

their

> peers or anyone else views them, it is strictly an issue of

function. Limb

> lengthening is a serious procedure with serious consequences if

things go

> wrong. Let's spend our time figuring out what doctors are doing

this

> safely and then helping those who want this find those doctors

rather than

> putting people down for personal choices. As always, just my

> opinion. Gillian.

Posted April 22, 2003 · April 22, 2003

In a message dated 4/21/2003 12:23:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,

mrsmith_1956@... writes:

>

> Yes Matt, there is such a drink. It is called Mountian Dew Code Red.

> I drink copious amounts of it and am as happy as can be. Albeit I do

> visit the facilities quite often, still it is a wonderful concoction.

>

> M.

You're further adding to the misery of those who share my nerve-wracking

phobia -- PPPP (people petrified of public potties). ;-)

Posted September 24, 2003 · September 24, 2003

What is your diet like?

New member story

Hi All,

I am relatively new to the group, and this is my 1st post. I

learned about through the cean Diet group. I have bought

the ER4YT Encyclopedia and have tried to follow the diet in most

cases. I totally cut out dairy products for a short while, but

recently started eating whole milk yogurt to gain some of the

benefits from the Probiotics that I understand are supposed to help

with various gastrointestinal conditions. I have been dealing with

IBD for some time. Since I have been on a high protein low carb

diet, I have lost 12 lbs (that I didn't need to lose - down

to 160 from 172 @ 6'0 " height), and now tend to be too regular with

bowel movements. If possible, I would like to bring my weight close

to my previous norm, and not have to deal with consistent

irregularity. I do exercise on a regular basis (surf 3 - 4 days a

week for 1 - 2 hours), and also seem to have a high metabolic rate.

I have been using a product called Healix (a natural antibiotic w/

complex mineral in a Fulvic Acid base) for the last 2 weeks, and am

also taking acidophilus supplements. I have experienced a moderate

relief, but still deal with stomach acid problems (baking soda in

water helps this), and burping, etc. Also, I seem to be

consistently hungry and snack eat through out the day. In an effort

to add more calories and fat, but stick to the diet, I have been

eating Macadamia nuts, Almonds, and String Cheese.

Does anyone have any ideas, comments or suggestions?

On the positive side, other flushing, and serious sinus problems I

had when I was eating lots of carbs has improved dramatically.

Thanks for your support. It's a great discussion group!

Bill

Posted September 24, 2003 · September 24, 2003

More beef, no carbs will relieve your acid reflux.

Also no food for 3 hours before bedtime.

--- Dekany <info@...> wrote:

> What is your diet like?

>

> New member story

>

> Hi All,

>

> I am relatively new to the group, and this is my 1st

> post. I

> learned about through the cean Diet

> group. I have bought

> the ER4YT Encyclopedia and have tried to follow the

> diet in most

> cases. I totally cut out dairy products for a short

> while, but

> recently started eating whole milk yogurt to gain

> some of the

> benefits from the Probiotics that I understand are

> supposed to help

> with various gastrointestinal conditions. I have

> been dealing with

> IBD for some time. Since I have been on a high

> protein low carb

> diet, I have lost 12 lbs (that I didn't need to lose

> - down

> to 160 from 172 @ 6'0 " height), and now tend to be

> too regular with

> bowel movements. If possible, I would like to bring

> my weight close

> to my previous norm, and not have to deal with

> consistent

> irregularity. I do exercise on a regular basis (surf

> 3 - 4 days a

> week for 1 - 2 hours), and also seem to have a high

> metabolic rate.

>

> I have been using a product called Healix (a natural

> antibiotic w/

> complex mineral in a Fulvic Acid base) for the last

> 2 weeks, and am

> also taking acidophilus supplements. I have

> experienced a moderate

> relief, but still deal with stomach acid problems

> (baking soda in

> water helps this), and burping, etc. Also, I seem

> to be

> consistently hungry and snack eat through out the

> day. In an effort

> to add more calories and fat, but stick to the diet,

> I have been

> eating Macadamia nuts, Almonds, and String Cheese.

>

> Does anyone have any ideas, comments or suggestions?

>

> On the positive side, other flushing, and serious

> sinus problems I

> had when I was eating lots of carbs has improved

> dramatically.

>

> Thanks for your support. It's a great discussion

> group!

>

> Bill

>

Posted September 24, 2003 · September 24, 2003

,

For breakfast I normally eat organic oatmeal flake cereal with

unsweetened soy milk.

Snacktimes - Hard boiled egg, soy nuts, macadamia nuts, almonds,

string cheese. Sometimes yogurt or cottage cheese.

Lunch: Chicken or Beef or Tuna and/or Salad (lettuce, tomatos,

carrots, celery).

Dinner - Beef or Chicken or Fish on occasion (Salmon or Tuna),

Veggies, Rice (occasionally). Rarely I splurge and have a few bites

of pasta.

Bill

> What is your diet like?

>

> New member story

>

> Hi All,

>

> I am relatively new to the group, and this is my 1st post. I

> learned about through the cean Diet group. I have

bought

> the ER4YT Encyclopedia and have tried to follow the diet in most

> cases. I totally cut out dairy products for a short while, but

> recently started eating whole milk yogurt to gain some of the

> benefits from the Probiotics that I understand are supposed to

help

> with various gastrointestinal conditions. I have been dealing

with

> IBD for some time. Since I have been on a high protein low carb

> diet, I have lost 12 lbs (that I didn't need to lose - down

> to 160 from 172 @ 6'0 " height), and now tend to be too regular with

> bowel movements. If possible, I would like to bring my weight

close

> to my previous norm, and not have to deal with consistent

> irregularity. I do exercise on a regular basis (surf 3 - 4 days a

> week for 1 - 2 hours), and also seem to have a high metabolic rate.

>

> I have been using a product called Healix (a natural antibiotic w/

> complex mineral in a Fulvic Acid base) for the last 2 weeks, and

am

> also taking acidophilus supplements. I have experienced a

moderate

> relief, but still deal with stomach acid problems (baking soda in

> water helps this), and burping, etc. Also, I seem to be

> consistently hungry and snack eat through out the day. In an

effort

> to add more calories and fat, but stick to the diet, I have been

> eating Macadamia nuts, Almonds, and String Cheese.

>

> Does anyone have any ideas, comments or suggestions?

>

> On the positive side, other flushing, and serious sinus problems I

> had when I was eating lots of carbs has improved dramatically.

>

> Thanks for your support. It's a great discussion group!

>

> Bill

>

Posted September 24, 2003 · September 24, 2003

Breakfast - oatmeal? Avoid! Soymilk? Avoid!

Not a good way to start since breakfast is the most important meal of

the day.

Snack times - eggs? Good! Soy nuts? Avoid! String cheese? Avoid! Cottage

cheese? Avoid! Nuts are ok.

Lunch - now you're talking, except where is the fat? Os strive on fat.

Dinner - Very good, but again there is not HB fat. Pasta? Forget about

it, (I hope it is rice pasta) especially at night. Rice is ok, but not

at night, however with your condition it should be avoided until

condition is corrected.

Weight loss - it will normalize with time on its own, but what you did

loose is water & fat weight which you do want to get rid of and replace

it with muscle tissue.

For now just focus on getting better and don't worry about your body

getting rid of poison. (Weight loss)

Drink a gallon of water a day also.

Whole milk yogurt is a huge no-no. Again, instead of trying to work on

the symptom, focus on correcting the cause. You don't need yogurt to

heal your intestines as an O.

Acidity - Bladderwrack, DGL are very helpful as is ARA.

You should also food combine properly.

I could go on, but I type fairly slow and running out of time.

Can you weight lift?

New member story

>

> Hi All,

>

> I am relatively new to the group, and this is my 1st post. I

> learned about through the cean Diet group. I have

bought

> the ER4YT Encyclopedia and have tried to follow the diet in most

> cases. I totally cut out dairy products for a short while, but

> recently started eating whole milk yogurt to gain some of the

> benefits from the Probiotics that I understand are supposed to

help

> with various gastrointestinal conditions. I have been dealing

with

> IBD for some time. Since I have been on a high protein low carb

> diet, I have lost 12 lbs (that I didn't need to lose - down

> to 160 from 172 @ 6'0 " height), and now tend to be too regular with

> bowel movements. If possible, I would like to bring my weight

close

> to my previous norm, and not have to deal with consistent

> irregularity. I do exercise on a regular basis (surf 3 - 4 days a

> week for 1 - 2 hours), and also seem to have a high metabolic rate.

>

> I have been using a product called Healix (a natural antibiotic w/

> complex mineral in a Fulvic Acid base) for the last 2 weeks, and

am

> also taking acidophilus supplements. I have experienced a

moderate

> relief, but still deal with stomach acid problems (baking soda in

> water helps this), and burping, etc. Also, I seem to be

> consistently hungry and snack eat through out the day. In an

effort

> to add more calories and fat, but stick to the diet, I have been

> eating Macadamia nuts, Almonds, and String Cheese.

>

> Does anyone have any ideas, comments or suggestions?

>

> On the positive side, other flushing, and serious sinus problems I

> had when I was eating lots of carbs has improved dramatically.

>

> Thanks for your support. It's a great discussion group!

>

> Bill

>

Posted September 16, 2004 · September 16, 2004

Murdoc,

Sorry to hear that you had such trouble with finding an attentive doctor. I to understand the frustration of doctors who brush over what you know to be the problem and not listen to what you are saying.

For years I had a family doctor who would flush my ear out with warm tap water whenever it was painful as he couldn't see what was going on due to 'gunk' (ehhh) in the ear. Wasn't I suprised to visit a specialist who told me not to get water in my ear as bacteria is abundent in water! He spent weeks vaccuming my ear while I was on antibotics. He found a hole in ear drum...which has now led me down ctoma path!

I have learnt that when you know something is wrong fight for your right to be heard! Nobody knows you like you!!!

Goodluck with your op (sounds like we will be going in around the same time)....

New member story

Hi all. New to the group and thought I'd share some of my story. I have chronic sinusitus and nasal problems. Have had several reconstructive surguries to alleviate the problems associaited with that including frequent, painfull ear infections. I guess all of that caught up to me and in July '03 when I woke up w/ pain in my ear. Being the only thing that will get me to the Dr. I put it off a week in hopes it would go away, when it didn't I went to the Dr. and after 2 weeks of antibiotics, an ear irrigation the pain was still there. A month later I was in to see an ENT - here in sinus valley Ohio it takes forever. The ENT was not my ENT I saw previously for my sinus problems, but one of the Dr's in the group. (Also happened to be my roomate at the time's supervising Dr. while he was on an ENT rotation for med school.) So I figured the guy knew his stuff.After several visits, I felt like the guy didn't hear a word I said. (Later found out he really didn't pay any attention to me or 'take me serious' at all I guess, but that's a whole other story.) He insisted on looking up my nose and all that and being niave & trusting, I figured there was some association w/ my nasal problems and ear pain. Well, after a sinus CAT scan and several visits later I finally say, "Doc, I understand my nose is messed up, but I'm here b/c my ear is killing me." So he orders a CAT scan of my ear to rule up cholesteatoma. So I go for yet another visit. By this time its early Sept. The CAT scan that I had on my ear was not at the office, but the Dr. read the report and said it was fluid in my ear. He recommended surgury to repair my septum, remove pollups, and put a tube in. I agreed since it sounded like a logical explination coming from a Dr. I assumed he knew what he was doing, and what he wanted to do would fix my problem.Well, the surgury never happened due to the whole him not paying attention thing, and me leaving the hospital in a fit of rage. (In short I don't do hospitals, told the Dr. this, and requested sedation ASAP upon arrival. Almost 2 hrs and no sedative later I was a little fired up, 2 hospital security personnel and a co. sheriff later I was on my way out the door.)Dec. of '03 I had a follow up apt. (to the surgury that didn't happen) scheduled when yet another Dr. in the group. He put a tube in my ear right there in the office. RELIEF! Or so I thought. The releif lasted a month or so when the pain came back. So I got in to see the tube Dr. and he said everything was functioning fine and left it at that.I still had no idea what was wrong with my ear, but at this point was through with Dr.'s. July of '04 my aspiring ENT roomate convinced me to go see a mentor of his in Cincinnati, Dr. Morad. After seeing Dr. Morad I finally got a Dr. to listen to my problem, assess the problem, and be honest with me. To him, there was no logical explination for my (at this point now) hearing loss and continued pain. Dr. Morad is a sinus guy so to speak, but he was honest. His assessment based on the CAT report and such was there was no explaination. So he referred me to Dr. Myles Pensak of the University of Cincinnati. On Monday, Sept. 13th, I saw Dr. Pensak. It took him all of 3 minutes to diagnos me with cholesteatoma. He actually read my CAT scan (as did Dr. Morad) but he was able to see the problem both on the CAT and in my ear.*** I HIGHLY RECCOMMEND DRs. MORAD AND PENSAK for anyone living in the vicinity of Cinci.*** To be honest, I'm full of emotion right now. I'm angry at the original ENT who didn't bother to look at the CAT scan himself and never bothered to adress the problem with my ear. I'm releived that after almost a year and 1/2 I now know what the problem is. I am in pain and have been for a year and 1/2 now, and I'm angry about that. I'm afraid my prognosis isn't very good. I am concerned and angry about the fact that its been over a year now. Having had spinal meningitis as an infant (I was 3 mos. old)I ponder and worry about the liklihood of it recurring due to my current ear situation. I know this was a long post, and I thank you for taking the time to read. Any help and supprot is greatly appreiciated. I don't yet have a surgury date, but it will be sometime mid-October. I won't bad-mouth a Dr. on the public forum, but if you want more info. I'll gladly share.Thanks again,Murdoc

Posted January 19, 2008 · January 19, 2008

Hello, group members,

I've just recently joined this group, and I see that it is very active. I am

really appreciating the posts. So I thought I'd share my story. I am writing

this assuming that everyone is well read about Serotonin Syndrome, something

that I knew nothing about until after I became a psych drug widow. Some of

this is cut and pasted from my complaint to the State Medical Board.

My husband was very upset over the loss of his job in May 2003 and went in

June to the psychiatrist he had gone to 30 years earlier when he was a

troubled college student. (Translation: he felt the weight of his childhood

with a terrified, raging father from a Polish Jewish refugee family and

overwhelmed--4 kids, no life--mother, plus painful Crohn's disease, and the

feelings of hope and limitless possibility as a soon-to-be-graduate. That's

" bipolar. " ) He believed the medical model had saved him then (psych drugs)

and with his Crohn's disease, so back he went.

From that time until his death in February 2005, Dr. F gave him one drug on

top of another. (Total: seven psychiatric drugs.) She titrated doses rapidly

up and down, contrary to medical standards. She induced the extremely

dangerous, sometimes fatal condition known as the Serotonin Syndrome, which

is the well-studied, predictable consequence of excessive serotonergic

drugs. She did not recognize or checklist for the syndrome, and in fact as

Mark became more symptomatic, she administered more serotonergic drugs. His

symptoms worsened, and she again increased his serotonergic medications.

During this time, Dr. F did not prohibit alcohol or OTC medications that

further augment hyper-serotonergic status. She had him on a low dose of a

non-serotonergic mood stabilizer, yet rather than increase it to dosages

recommended for adults or even children, she added more serotonergic drugs.

The forensic psychiatrist who reviewed the case described this as

" disturbing " , " incomprehensible " , and " a lesson in what not to do. "

Afflicted with unidentified Serotonin Syndrome, my husband believed he was

falling apart physically and mentally. With classic symptoms-sweating,

shaking, leg-twitching, agitation, clumsiness, sedation, unrestorative

sleep, hypomania, confusion, extreme forgetfulness-he assumed, having no

other explanation and being in a frightening state of cognitive impairment,

that he had irreducible mental illness and that his condition would never

change. He ended his life through suicide.

Losing him has been devastating beyond words. The shock and grief have been

profound. We were a very compatible, communicative, affectionate couple who

took great joy in living together and marveled at how our love continued to

deepen. Mark wanted to live very, very much. He was a compliant patient

precisely because he did want so much to live-he even said so explicitly; he

felt he could trust Dr. F and the medicinal approach. I miss him terribly.

And he will never get to do the many things he looked forward to-a special

trip we planned, his sister's kidney transplant, old age together. He is

missing everything, and that is incredible for someone who savored life as

much as Mark did.

Medication Malpractice:

Wrongful Administration of Adversely Interacting Drugs; Failure to Recognize

the Predictable Consequence; Failure to Use an Appropriate Medication:

Mark and I knew nothing of Serotonin Syndrome. Apparently, neither did Dr.

F, despite the fact that it is the subject of frequent medical journal

articles and her practice is pharmacotherapy*. (*The Serotonin Syndrome was

first described in 1959; the common term for it was agreed upon in 1986; and

the landmark, often-cited article in Am J Psychiatry, June 1991 proposed the

checklist of symptoms that has been used universally since.)

If she had, she never would have prescribed five concurrent serotonergic

medications. She never would have added one on top of another. She never

would have, on November 17, 2004, resumed Lithium (which she had

discontinued, and which is serotonergic), while leaving Mark's Lamictal dose

at only 200 mg.-when 600 mg. is safely given to pediatric populations, and

Lamictal serves the same purpose (mood stabilization) without augmenting

serotonin levels or other side effects. She never would have added, that

same day, a serotonergic atypical antidepressant/antipsychotic called

Zyprexa. She would have observed that after the discontinuation of Klonopin

(a benzodiazapine, which mitigates some syndrome symptoms) on November 17,

Mark became more obviously symptomatic of the syndrome. She never would have

added, one month later (December18), the SSRI Lexapro.

[PS to group: I am actually against ALL these drugs. But I wanted to make

the point to the Board that he could have been weaned off the huge load of

serotonergic drugs with a higher and safer dose of the non-serotonergic

Lamictal, according to the forensic psychiatrist who did the expert review.

Then, my personal retroactive wish, veerrry gradually and safely off that.]

At that point, two months before his death, Dr. F had Mark on five

prescribed serotonergic drugs:

a.. Paxil and Lexapro (SSRIs-selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors)

b.. Wellbutrin (a dopamine agonist, which when taken with serotonergic

drugs, will increase the availability of serotonin, leading to serotonin

syndrome)

c.. Zyprexa (a serotonergic atypical antidepressant/antipsychotic)

d.. Lithium (a mood stabilizer that increases serotonin release)

She did not prohibit his occasional use of alcohol, his frequent use of

ibuprofen (including 800 mg. every Friday night before dancing) and of

Sudafed (p.r.n., fairly often), and his occasional use of cough medications

with DM. All of these interact with serotonin neurotransmission. She did not

evaluate his hypertension (another Serotonin Syndrome symptom): did it exist

independent of the serotonergic drugs, or was it caused by them, or were the

drugs exacerbating the pre-existing hypertension? She did not correlate his

bouts of diarrhea (another symptom) with the medication increases. Although

Mark had Crohn's disease, he had no active disease during this very period,

as verified by his GI surgeon.

And if Dr. F were aware of the Serotonin Syndrome, she never would have

taken Mark from 0 mg. Paxil (she rapidly discontinued it during January to 0

in early February 2005; not surprisingly, he experienced terrible rebound

from the far-too-rapid titration) to 50 mg. in one day, February 17, and

each of the days that remained. Paxil, a powerful SSRI, especially at that

dose, slammed a huge serotonin load on top of the other four serotonergic

drugs. He suffered immensely that week, the last week of his life. She was

aware of his suffering from daily phone calls, and writes " I am very worried

about this gentleman " in the medical record, yet does not take any emergency

action. When I called in alarm a few weeks earlier, she never returned my

call (although it is recorded verbatim in the medical record) but rather

told Mark to reassure me that she knew what she was doing. He was very

adamant about following doctor's orders, " because I want to live. "

Mark attended an all-day work meeting that Friday, February 25, making notes

about phone calls and actions to make on Monday for his job as a social

worker. That evening he took his usual 800 mg. of ibuprofen, on top of what

was now one week of the largest load of serotonergic medication that he had

ever been on, and went to his folk dance, where he could not shake the

confusion, the clumsy/rigid muscles, the new wave of non-IBD diarrhea, and

it was then that he truly gave up. I was able to piece this together from

things other people and I heard him say. He wrote me a loving farewell note

and took all the drugs at the same time while I was out from noon to five on

Saturday.

He died a man both impaired and in acute fear. He was aware that he couldn't

remember things. He was aware that he was sweating profusely and shaking. He

was aware that his mind often felt dull and confused. (These are all

Serotonin Syndrome symptoms.) He'd had manic episodes with certain

medication changes and now he felt awful, and he felt afraid and miserable

about feeling awful.

As we in this group all know (excerpted from journal article):

Serotonin syndrome is a hyper-serotonergic state, that is, an excess of 5-HT

(serotonin) in the central nervous system. It is usually associated with

high doses of serotonergic drugs, when combinations of serotonergic agents

are used together, or when antidepressants are changed without an adequate

washout period between drugs. It can also occur when serotonergic drugs are

used in combination with non-serotonergeric drugs, such as certain pain

medications, certain antibiotics, and others. Less frequently it can also be

caused by moderate dosage of a single serotonergeric drug.

The patient does not develop serotonin syndrome by natural processes alone.

Abnormally elevated concentrations of serotonin and clinical signs and

symptoms of serotonin syndrome develop because of drug-induced serotonin

augmentation.

I cannot believe that Dr. F was aware of Serotonin Syndrome. Otherwise she

would not have made the prescription choices I described above: she would

not have continued to add more serotonergic drugs at higher doses, and she

would not have under-utilized Lamictal. She would have gone through the

published (repeatedly, since 1991) checklist of symptoms with every contact

with Mark. This is inexcusable and criminal.

Nothing can bring back Mark, the man who wanted so much to live. No one

cared more about making life fair and good for all of humanity, on a large

scale and person by person. No one savored life more, enjoying music, dance,

food, nature, ideas, friends, and a deep committed love. Having suffered

such painful undiagnosed bowel disease as a young person, he saw life as

precious. Modern medicine served him well, through surgeries and

medications, in treating his Crohn's disease. If only this " medical

psychiatrist " (as if biopsychiatry had any validity) had been so competent,

he would still be alive.

My struggle since his death has been excrutiating---and drug free. There's

more, but this is more than enough for now. Sorry it's so long, but there

it is.

Posted January 19, 2008 · January 19, 2008

I am so sorry about your loss. These acts are criminal. That quack should rot in

prison til death. Her continued freedom poses a hazard to public safety. what

have you heard from the medical board? Thanks for sharing your story. Have you

posted it to the FDA adverse side effects site? Terry

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