Hi, I'm new to the group

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/17/2002 5:03:08 AM Central Standard Time,

jvanderi@... writes:

> Thanks for listening! I look forward to chatting with you all.

>

>

Janet - welcome! If support is what you need - you have come to the right

place!!!

Glad you joined us,

[Guest guest]

Welcome Janet. A few of us are gearing up for 2003. With cleaning cabinets.

Making plans. Starting journals. Great place for support.

NH

Mommy to Abby Liz 10-25-94

Mommy to Anne 7-1-99

228/226/199

[Guest guest]

Welcome Janet! I look forward to getting to know you....

Sue

" I did the thing I feared the most -- excuse me while I cheer.

Now here I stand, a stronger soul -- and all I've lost is fear. "

" Don't give up what you want most

for what you want for the moment "

" Fate is what life hands you.

Destiny is what you do with it. "

[Guest guest]

> Hi Everyone!

Welcome, Janet.

> of marriage, I have dealt with a rocky marriage, 3 children, 2 of

> them with disabilities,

You have a lot in common with some members here.

> a few days after my last son was born, I was in an auto accident

> (other guy rammed the back of my car). From that moment on, I've had

Ouch! I can't imagine how bad you must feel!

>My problem is support. I don't really have

> friends to have coffee with or join me with weight loss.

Same here. I may live in a congested urban area, but most of the women in my

neighborhood either work full time, are retired, or don't even speak

English. My best friend is anorexic and lives 300 miles away, so she's out

of the question. Thank goodness for electronic communication!

>My husband

> has always laughed at my attempts to lose weight

Mine doesn't laugh, but I've been on diets since we first met when I ws

still in 6th grade and I'm as fat as ever, so he just kind of ignores every

new attempt and eats whatever I cook, usually.

>I REALLY want to get back down to what I consider " normal "

> weight because I'm tired of wearing large clothes and being unhappy.

Well, for me, " normal " is 220, the weight I've been at since graduating high

school over 30 years ago and stayed at until I delivered my son 19 years

ago. With a few injuries and medical conditions curtailing exercise, my

weight crept up to 292. I lost almost 50 lbs on a very low fat vegetarian

plan (http://members.tripod.com/~susang2/page4.htm) but then started to

slowly gain back over 10 of them, even while still on the plan. For the past

2 years I've been back and forth between that and the FoodMover again with

no further weight loss, just a few more pounds gained.

>Help ladies!

Well, you'll always find a shoulder to cry on here.

Sue in NJ

I think I have Furniture Disease...My chest is falling into my drawers!

http://www.agoron.com/~susang/index.htm

[Guest guest]

Hi Janet and welcome - I am new too. I'm so sorry about your losses.

J

[Guest guest]

Hi Janet,

You sure have had a rough time of it. (((((((Hug's))))))). Have you had

time to check out out Files & Links sections? There is enough goodies in

there to keep you busy.

Has anyone started planning their menus and exercise routine for

Christmas eve and Christmas day? (Or other holiday celebrations? I have

a party coming up this Sunday and because its out of town I am going to

lose my exercise time for the day. Plus I am not sure of the menu.

Jelayne

Hi, I'm new to the group

Hi Everyone!

I'm new to this group. I have the Food Mover (bought

the whole set for $10) in a yard sale! And am also a member of his

site. I am a self-confessed emotional eater. Over the past 17 years

of marriage, I have dealt with a rocky marriage, 3 children, 2 of

them with disabilities, the death of several family members

(including my 9 yo son in Nov. 2000). Life has sure been tough. Just

a few days after my last son was born, I was in an auto accident

(other guy rammed the back of my car). From that moment on, I've had

a terrible time with exercise because I don't have full range of

motion anymore. My friend in Pennsylvania started with

and he's managed to lose almost 200 lbs!!! He still wants to

lose another 150 I think. My problem is support. I don't really have

friends to have coffee with or join me with weight loss. My husband

has always laughed at my attempts to lose weight (insecurity issue

with him). I REALLY want to get back down to what I consider " normal "

weight because I'm tired of wearing large clothes and being unhappy.

Since there is little emotional support from the others in my home,

I find it nearly impossible to control the emotional eating. Help

ladies!

Thanks for listening! I look forward to chatting with you all.

Sincerely,

JanetV.

[Guest guest]

Janet, you've had such a rough time. My greatest fear is something

happening to my kids. I'm so sorry to hear that you've been through that.

My girls are 2 and 6. Sometimes they seem so tough and sometimes they seem

so very fragile.

No wonder you've been emotional eating! We just have to remember that

eating doesn't help at all and just makes us feel worse in the long run. Of

course it's hard to remember that in the heat of the momen

Ann

[Guest guest]

> Hi Everyone!

>

> I'm new to this group. I have the Food Mover (bought

> the whole set for $10) in a yard sale!

Hi! I'm new to the group, too! Heck, I haven't even figured out how

to do this responding thing well. But I've got to tell you, working

with these ladies and being supported by them has really made me feel

great and has given me motivation to really stick to my food mover and

my plan. I love them already.

And am also a member of his

> site. I am a self-confessed emotional eater.

OK - after reading what you had to write, I'm convinced you're the ONE

person among us who really is justified to do some emotional eating!

My goodness! That is part of my program. I ask myself some questions

each day - Did I eat only when hungry? Did I stick to my food mover

plan? Did I measure every morsel of food that goes in my mouth? And

now I've added: Did I drink 8 glasses of water? That's my new one for

this week. Last night I was sitting on the couch at 10:30 PM

desperately wanting to go to bed but I had 16 ounces to go. URGH. It

was tough to get down.

I REALLY want to get back down to what I consider

" normal "

This is a goal for me as well. I just don't want my weight to be the

first hurdle people have to overcome to accept or like me.

Help ladies!Thanks for listening! I look forward to chatting with you

all.

I know you'll love this group. These women are GREAT!>

Again, welcome and please post when you can!

Dodie

[Guest guest]

HELLO Peg,

Have you heard of the non-narcotic pain medicine tramodol. [the brand name is ultram].

It may give you some relief from the pain that you are in.

It may be worth looking into.

Well,I hope that you will be able to find some relief from your pain.

My best goes out to you .

MAY YOU HAVE A BETTER DAY TODAY THAN YESTERDAY AND NOT AS GOOD A DAY AS TOMORROW.

TAKE AS BEST CARE AS YOU CAN AND BE SAFE.

Peg Parson <momsalittleoff@...> wrote:

Hi everyone, I'm Peg, from Southern California, and a married mom to 2kids. I'm 46 and my hobbies include sewing, needlecrafts, calligraphy,and penpalling. I've had back pain for years and, after being misdiagnosed withbursitis, I finally had a MRI two years ago and they found that I hadtwo bulging discs in my lower back. One was so deteriated that thedoctor removed it and the other one, he did a lamenectomy (sp) on. Icontinued to have pain and the doctor that did the surgery told methat I just needed to get more exercise. Finally, after getting off mytreadmill one day in extreme pain, I went to another doctor and found,after a year of pysical therapy and other things that didn't help,that the disc that I had surgery on was bulging again and was puttingpressure on nerves on both sides. This time I decided not to have

moresurgery, but instead went in for 3 steroid shots in my back. Thatworked for about 3 weeks of blissfull relief from pain, then the paingradually came back. With that and a bad reaction from my chlorestrealmedication that caused major leg and back cramps, I've been prettymiserable lately. Now I have to decide if I want to wait the 6 monthsthat are required by the Veterans clinic that I go to, before gettingmore shots, or getting surgery again. After much prayer the lastcouple days, I've decided that surgery is too much of an inconvenienceon my family (my teenaged son is autistic and getting care for himwhile I recover, would be difficult and tramatic for him). That leavespain control as my option of choice. I have a problem with nausea whenI take narcotics, so I'm left with over the counter medications rightnow. I have a doctor appointment in a couple weeks and I'll ask ifthere is any other meds I can use then, but don't have

too much hopein that area. The muscle cramps have eased up some since not takingthe medication that caused them, but I continue to have pain and a fewcramps each day, so I think that the medication may have caused somedamage to my muscles. I have to have that checked as well. I've goneback to walking as a means to reduce weight and stengthen muscles. Ihave a financial burden that keeps me from going to one of the localaqua therapy places and the VA doesn't cover anything like that.I look forward to meeting everyone and talking to people whounderstand the pain that I deal with.Hugs,PegREMEMBER ALL OF OUR MEN AND

WOMEN IN THE ARMED SERVICE OF OUR NATION

PRAY THAT THEY MAY BE SAFE

AND SOUND IN BODY AND MIND

[Guest guest]

Thanks!

I'll ask my doctor when I have my next appointment!

Peg

> HELLO Peg,

> Have you heard of the non-narcotic pain medicine tramodol. [the

brand name is ultram].

> It may give you some relief from the pain that you are in.

> It may be worth looking into.

> Well,I hope that you will be able to find some relief from your pain.

> My best goes out to you .

> MAY YOU HAVE A BETTER DAY TODAY THAN YESTERDAY AND NOT AS GOOD A DAY

AS TOMORROW.

> TAKE AS BEST CARE AS YOU CAN AND BE SAFE.

[Guest guest]

Thanks!

I'll ask my doctor when I have my next appointment!

Peg

> HELLO Peg,

> Have you heard of the non-narcotic pain medicine tramodol. [the

brand name is ultram].

> It may give you some relief from the pain that you are in.

> It may be worth looking into.

> Well,I hope that you will be able to find some relief from your pain.

> My best goes out to you .

> MAY YOU HAVE A BETTER DAY TODAY THAN YESTERDAY AND NOT AS GOOD A DAY

AS TOMORROW.

> TAKE AS BEST CARE AS YOU CAN AND BE SAFE.

[Guest guest]

I have a problem with the surgery too. I mean I'm not worried about the

actual surgery as much as the recovery time afterwards. I can't image

how to survive if I'm totally unable to do anything for more than a

week. who will clean the house, especially the litter box. who will do

the grocery shopping, etc. never mind the 85 clients at work that need

to be seen.

as for the water therapy. yes, it's expensive, but if you can find a

pool there is a way to do it. Instead of paying to use the therapy pool

at $60.00 per week, I went in, told them I had access to a pool and had

them show me what exercises to do and what to avoid. I use the county

pool, it's less than $300 a year. I know that it sounds like a lot, but

if you spread it out it's not that bad, besides it is one of my

necessities. I'd rather sacrifice something else than give up the pool

, Pepper's pal

" I'd rather regret the things that I have done than the things I

haven't " LB

[Guest guest]

I have a problem with the surgery too. I mean I'm not worried about the

actual surgery as much as the recovery time afterwards. I can't image

how to survive if I'm totally unable to do anything for more than a

week. who will clean the house, especially the litter box. who will do

the grocery shopping, etc. never mind the 85 clients at work that need

to be seen.

as for the water therapy. yes, it's expensive, but if you can find a

pool there is a way to do it. Instead of paying to use the therapy pool

at $60.00 per week, I went in, told them I had access to a pool and had

them show me what exercises to do and what to avoid. I use the county

pool, it's less than $300 a year. I know that it sounds like a lot, but

if you spread it out it's not that bad, besides it is one of my

necessities. I'd rather sacrifice something else than give up the pool

, Pepper's pal

" I'd rather regret the things that I have done than the things I

haven't " LB

[Guest guest]

Hi my name is Diane,

I guess I will tell you a little about what I've gone through. In

2005 I was having alot of pain in between my shoulder blades. I was

seeing a Chiropractor at the time and the pain got so bad, he

finally said you really need to see a specialist. So I did. Back

in 2001 I was diagnosed with a bone tumor in my right humerus at

first they said it was bone cancer but after going through surgery

it turned out it wasn't. So the pain between my shoulder blades got

so bad that I could not function at all. I saw the specialist and

he put me on 2 - 1000 mg vicodin every 4 hrs and flexaril muscle

relaxer every 4 hrs. It was not touching the pain..I went through

all the tests and finally he said we have to go in and do surgery on

C5,6,7. He took out C6 and put in a metal plate and screws fusing

C5 to C7 through the front of my neck. Sugery went well and my pain

was gone.

Five months later he said I could return to work. One week before

my return to work date, I was in a serious car accident. Two boys

had stolen a car and was in a police chase..I was at a red light and

the light turned green. I started to go but seen the car coming out

of the corner of my eye so I stopped..the boys swirved their car

right into me, the police said they were going 95+MPH when they hit

me. I thank God that I am alive today, but I did suffer a

dislocated left arm and damage to my neck. I went through physical

therapy for my arm first and then my neck.

I went into surgery again and this time he put a metal rod in the

back of my neck and clean up some of the broken particles from the

car accident. When I woke up from recovery my right hand was numb.

The doctor said that should go away after all the swelling goes

down. That surgery was in Nov. 2007.

He put me through therapy again but this time the therapist couldn't

really do much therapy because of the amount of swelling and muscle

spasms. So my therapy sessions consisted of Ice Massages to try and

get the swelling down. Have any of you ever had that..oh my

goodness they take a block of ice and rub it on you until you can't

feel anything....I went through this 3x a week for 8 weeks.

Still hand numb and also starting having severe cramping in my right

hand. Really weird depending on what I am doing will cramp

different areas of the hand. For instance holding a phone to my ear

my pinkie finger would go down and the bone on top of my hand would

go over and under my ringer finger bone. Closing blinds would cause

my index finger to go straight down. Those are examples, when this

happens it is very painful and I have to take my other hand and push

all the bones back into place.

I was put through all kinds of tests and nerve tests. The doctor

thought that maybe the nerve was sitting against one of the screws

in the back of my neck.

So finally Augst 29, 2008 he said we are going back in to remove the

rod from the back of your neck..everything is fused so you really

don't need it. That should take care of the problem.

I woke up in recover and the tingly feeling was still there but not

as bad. The next day it was back full force again and the cramping

in my hand seems like it has gotten worse.

All three surgeries I also had a problem with my body rejecting the

sutures and this time the staples. Each time I would get an

infection and the incision opens back up. It has been 2 weeks since

my surgery and I have an infection and yesterday my incision is

opening up again. About 1 inch from the botton of my incision is

open. I called the doctor he had put me on antibiotics and said to

come see him..problem is he is only in on Thursdays, so I have to

keep a close eye on my incision to make sure it doesn't open any

further.

He said he may have to take me back into surgery to open me back up

and clean everything out and close me up again.

Has anyone experienced the numbness and cramping in their hands

after surgery?

After my second surgery he said it would go away but it never did.

He is saying the same thing again after this surgery.

I just want to try and prepare myself because as of right now I am

not able to do alot. Even the smallest thing as opening a bottle is

impossible for me to do. I have no strength at all in my right

hand. Very little in my left hand because of the dislocation.

My car insurance is responsible for all my medical bills and they do

pay my wages for 3 years but that will be up in May 2009. I am 50

years old and I have never had a claim against my car insurance.

Dealing with them is awful..they act like the wage payments are

coming out of their own pockets and they have no sympathy for you at

all. My claim worker has told me that I have to apply for Social

Security Disability and I should have done that 6 months after my

accident..no one told me to do that.

So I did go online and sent in the application. I received a letter

saying they will be calling me next week to do an over the phone

interview.

On top of everything else, my husbands plant is closing and he will

be without a job within the next 2 weeks.

I will end this for now because just this little bit of typing on

the computer has thrown my neck and shoulders into a massive muscle

spasm. I look forward to hearing from you all and getting to know

you all better.

Diane

[Guest guest]

Hi Mel,

I'm . First of all, I am in awe that you managed to lose and maintain.

That's GREAT!!!! Thank you so much for sharing. New thoughts and ideas and some

of them apply to me. I too had parents who were very very protective in many

ways and it backfired when I got married at a very young age and set up house

with my husband. I knew I have been using food for comfort but never connected

it to comfort because I might be anxious about what to do in certain

situations.  Great insight! And it makes so much sense.

 

I'm 5'4 " and have been at 147 for years and years. I want to lose those last 10.

Ideally I would love to do it before I am too old to enjoy it. Yet, I still love

eating more than reaching my goal.

 

I just wrote to a friend of mine yesterday that losing weight and dieting and

food are sth that has been on my mind for probably the last 10 years yet with

the exception of 6 years ago when I got down to my ideal weight and stayed there

for about 6 months, I have been more or less at 147. What to do??? After so much

frustration and dieting and chatting with friends and listening to IOWL I am at

exactly the same place that I started at. Which is I love to use food for

comfort and esp. when I am low on energy....It's a fantastic energy booster!!!

 

So I too am still looking for answers as I continue on this weight loss journey.

And you know Mel, in a way, I so afraid that in the end I will lose the weight

and love it and then regret not having done it sooner. In the meantime, I'm

trying to be me... :-)

 

Keep sharing!

Hugs,

 

From: melaniegionet <melgionet@...>

Subject: Hi, I'm new to the group

weightloss

Date: Saturday, February 5, 2011, 8:47 PM

 

Hi, I've been listening to the podcast for a few months now and I think it

provided the lightbulb moment(s) I needed to start making a profound change.

I've just now decided to apply one of 's suggestions which is to reach out

to others.

Well, I always thought I was " the fat one " . I think it stems from subtle cues

from my mom who would comment on how much I was eating and things like that. But

when I look back at pictures from school, I find that I was at a healthy weight,

not stick thin like some other girls seemed to be, but not over weight. When I

left home to go to University, and therefore away from parental supervision, I

slowly but surely gained weight, exactly what my mother feared. I guess it was a

kind of rebellion, since at home, I was under parental control. This control

also had another effect on me: since I had few permissions, I didn't get much

life experience in my teenage years and didn't develop ways of dealing with

different situations. Therefore, in my twenties, I used food to numb anxiety.

So, when asked what was the gift that my overeating was trying to give me,

the answer was it was trying to protect me, to comfort me in the face of

difficult situations. That

spurred me to consult a therapist to work on ways of protecting/defending

myself in more healthy, productive ways.

Now, it seems that my limiting beliefs are coming out of the woodworks. When I

first listened to the podcast, it didn't come to me, but a few have surfaced

lately. Maybe they might ring a bell for others as well.

- I'm not too good at verbally defending myself when someone adresses me

inappropriately (in my line of work, there are alot of big egos)

- I feel somehow deprived if I have to limit my eating, particularly at a

restaurant or at a party

-this is the big one that just came to me: I've been playing the role of the fat

girl, the one in the group who tags along, keeps a low profile, who is the

" sidekick " , whose needs are not necessarily met or taken into consideration when

decisions are being made by the group (and who doesn't speak up to let others

know what thoses needs are!), who doesn't make waves, etc, etc... I'm guessing

it comes from not feeling as deserving as others of consideration. The outward

manifestation of that is that they were " skinnier " and therefore more worthy,

and I was " fatter " . I made myself easy to please and wanting to please so that I

could be accepted. I also made myself easy to reject (especially when it came to

boys) so that there would not be awkardness.

- I'll stop here...the post is long enough!

So, I've lost 40 pounds the old-fashionned " restrict calories and do lots of

exercice " way. It took about 8 months. I went from 210 lbs to 170 lbs. I'm 5'5 " .

It was my first serious attempt at weight loss, so I'm fortunate not to have

gone through the yo-yo thing. However, it's no way lo live in the long term.

That's why I turned here, to find a way to get to a healthy weight in a more

natural, mindful manner. However, I've been stuck at 170 lbs for over a year

(you could say I've been successful at maintaining...) and I want to get down to

a healthy BMI, around 150 lbs.

I'm looking forward to hearing from you!

Mel

[Guest guest]

I understand! completely my mother was a fat girl as teenager and she white

knuckled herself for many years to be a size 1/2 and after children she thought

size 5/6 was grossly over weight needless to say one of the biggest issues

my mother had with marring my spouse that I chose was not that I was only

nineteen and had barley dated for a year and had two babies in tow. It was that

he was out of shape and overweight. * Sigh* But we are so much more than our own

pant sizes. I can't remember what Ipod # it was but I have to regularly give

my insecure teenage mother back her fear of wanted to be accepted regular even

though she has been gone ten year.  My husband is out of weight but he eats

healthier than his whole family he needs exercise and portion control ( Not for

me to fix even if I want to)  and I am over weight because I eat my feelings. I

worry about us both but I still would not have not married him. I just wish I

had found sooner

rather than latter.

Hugs and Positive Intent

I am thankful for as I head out to a Super Bowl Party this afternoon.

Constance in Mi

 

From: melaniegionet <melgionet@...>

Subject: Hi, I'm new to the group

weightloss

Date: Saturday, February 5, 2011, 8:47 AM

 

Hi, I've been listening to the podcast for a few months now and I think it

provided the lightbulb moment(s) I needed to start making a profound change.

I've just now decided to apply one of 's suggestions which is to reach out

to others.

Well, I always thought I was " the fat one " . I think it stems from subtle cues

from my mom who would comment on how much I was eating and things like that. But

when I look back at pictures from school, I find that I was at a healthy weight,

not stick thin like some other girls seemed to be, but not over weight. When I

left home to go to University, and therefore away from parental supervision, I

slowly but surely gained weight, exactly what my mother feared. I guess it was a

kind of rebellion, since at home, I was under parental control. This control

also had another effect on me: since I had few permissions, I didn't get much

life experience in my teenage years and didn't develop ways of dealing with

different situations. Therefore, in my twenties, I used food to numb anxiety.

So, when asked what was the gift that my overeating was trying to give me,

the answer was it was trying to protect me, to comfort me in the face of

difficult situations. That

spurred me to consult a therapist to work on ways of protecting/defending

myself in more healthy, productive ways.

Now, it seems that my limiting beliefs are coming out of the woodworks. When I

first listened to the podcast, it didn't come to me, but a few have surfaced

lately. Maybe they might ring a bell for others as well.

- I'm not too good at verbally defending myself when someone adresses me

inappropriately (in my line of work, there are alot of big egos)

- I feel somehow deprived if I have to limit my eating, particularly at a

restaurant or at a party

-this is the big one that just came to me: I've been playing the role of the fat

girl, the one in the group who tags along, keeps a low profile, who is the

" sidekick " , whose needs are not necessarily met or taken into consideration when

decisions are being made by the group (and who doesn't speak up to let others

know what thoses needs are!), who doesn't make waves, etc, etc... I'm guessing

it comes from not feeling as deserving as others of consideration. The outward

manifestation of that is that they were " skinnier " and therefore more worthy,

and I was " fatter " . I made myself easy to please and wanting to please so that I

could be accepted. I also made myself easy to reject (especially when it came to

boys) so that there would not be awkardness.

- I'll stop here...the post is long enough!

So, I've lost 40 pounds the old-fashionned " restrict calories and do lots of

exercice " way. It took about 8 months. I went from 210 lbs to 170 lbs. I'm 5'5 " .

It was my first serious attempt at weight loss, so I'm fortunate not to have

gone through the yo-yo thing. However, it's no way lo live in the long term.

That's why I turned here, to find a way to get to a healthy weight in a more

natural, mindful manner. However, I've been stuck at 170 lbs for over a year

(you could say I've been successful at maintaining...) and I want to get down to

a healthy BMI, around 150 lbs.

I'm looking forward to hearing from you!

Mel