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Hi Ray

THANKYOU FOR ALL THAT GREAT INFO!!!!

How long did you have the plague for?

Do you feel completely normal now?

I am so happy for you!!

L

--- castiar <castiar@...> wrote:

> On the walls and ceiling I was just spraying Windex

> original and

> leaving it. No wiping.

>

> I was spraying Windex heavily once a week all over

> my house.

>

> Carpets, sofas, moving the sofas and spraying

> underneith, pulling out

> the cushions and spraying both sides and under the

> cushions but not

> putting the cushions on until the next day.

>

> I cleaned all countertops everyday and I sprayed the

> cabinets and

> wiped them down with paper towels like twice a week.

> Windex is not as

> hard on poly as other things I have read about. I

> chose not to do

> cleaning with Bleach and water because the Windex

> had Amonnia

> (Amonnia-D) and you don't want to mix that with

> bleach.

>

> I was spraying the hardwood floor with Windex and

> letting it sit and

> them coming back and moping with Hot water, 20 mule

> borax and some

> blue floor wax only because it smelled good (sorry

> can't remember the

> name).

>

> At first I was puting Borax on the carpets every

> other day and

> vacumming but realized you can put it in the carpet

> once every 5 days

> and then vacumm it up and put more Borax down.

>

> You buy 20 mule borax in the clothes detergent isle

> at the super

> market. Shake the box and make sure it isn't clumped

> up before you

> buy it (makes sprinkling easier).

>

> Sprinkle it in your car carpets and let it sit and

> vacumm it up

> weekly. I was doing it every other day but realized

> I only had so

> many hours in the day and I also had to sleep and

> work so I started

> doing it once a week.

>

> Spray your car seats, steering and carpets everytime

> you get out with

> Windex. No need to wipe. I sprayed it on the radio,

> and built in

> navigation system and didn't ruin anything. Remember

> you want to do

> it when you are getting out not in and don't forget

> to do it every

> time if possible. Once a week when you are vacumming

> up the car spray

> the headliner, door jams and everywhere really good

> with Windex.

> During the week you can just maintain and spray the

> seats that were

> used and steering wheel.

>

> I did try Sevin dusting insecticide in the carpets

> but it didn't seem

> as affective nor as safe for us or the kids.

>

> I would spray the shower floor like 2 or three times

> a day after I

> went to the restroom. To kill the ones that lived

> through your

> showering.

>

> Bag your dirty clothes and wash them with clothes

> detergent, bleach

> and borax as hot as possible. Once I did that I

> stopped having to put

> my clothes through 2 dry cycles (saving more time).

>

> At work I was spraying my desk, keyboard and mouse

> with Windex when

> leaving for the day and when I went to lunch. The

> mites were living

> in and under my keyboard so if I forgot I got ate up

> the next day.

>

> I would also spray my work chair which is cloth but

> some days I'd put

> plastic trash bags on it. Yup, I got laughted at but

> it was better

> than being bitten all day at work.

>

> That is all I can think of right now but I had to

> learn to work

> smarter because I wasn't sleeping wiping everything

> down every day

> and vacuuming the house every day. We have a lot of

> carpet and if I

> went as fast as I could it would take about an hour

> and 15 min.

>

> So, I had to learn to budget time and get some

> sleep.

>

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The question was asked - what is the best way to clean empty bottles?

Hi all - I am a new member so let me introduce myself first. My name is Ann

and I'm blessed with 3 adult children, 4 completely awesome grandchildren a

very supportive partner/husband. That being said, I am a (was actually)

critical care RN, Certified Aromatherapist (through Jane Buckle's course for

health professionals), and a manufacturer/retailer/wholesaler of

paraben-free, natural & organic, (as possible) personal care products. I

joined this group because of my love for essential oils, natural anything

and trying to wean myself off of synthetic fragrances - very difficult for

me. I hope to learn how to do that using natural fragrance because I am

most definitely a fragrance junkie. I made candles in the past, so have

over 100 very lovely bottles of fragrance in my lab but alas all synthetic.

I've made some really nice blends using synthetics, but I realize I need to

move beyond that.

To answer the question - I use both glass bottles and plastic bottles and

believe in recycling. The glass bottles are no problem just wash

(preferably in dishwasher), dry and rinse out with isopropyl alcohol, turn

upside down on a cloth and let it run out and evaporate from the bottle

naturally. The plastic bottles, I'm not so sure about and am now pouring

all of my carrier oils into large wine-type bottles and using vacuum pump

type caps to seal them. So far it seems to be working nicely. I don't know

why you couldn't reuse the plastic, but I worry now about toxins being

transferred into the oil. Someone else may be able to expand on that issue.

Thanks - good to meet all of you and looking forward to learning. I've, of

course, made a lot of therapeutic type blends, that happen to smell nice as

well, plus I play with my oils for myself all the time, have Mindy Green's

book on Natural Perfumes, but other than that I have a lot to learn.

Ann

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>

> hello all,

> i have a question,

> what is the best way to clean empty bottles that once contained

> essential oils or empty bottles that contained carrier oils?...i have

> so many empties both the colored glass and palstic ones......besides

> being costly to always rebuy i dont want to waste when i can recycle!

> thank you

>

Hello~

I definitely keep every glass bottle I encounter. Like Ann said, the

best thing I have found to do is wash with dish soap (naturally

scented, of course, at the risk of sounding very pretentious). I

rinse any excess oils off first. Then I fill the sink with hot water

(glass only) or lukewarm water (plastic caps and droppers -- hot water

can open the pores in the plastic and I've found that it can drive a

permanent scent into the caps). Let soak for 15 minutes or so, then

wash with a soft bristle brush (sterilized toothbrush or mascara brush

for small bottles). Then I rinse in rubbing alcohol or hydrogen

peroxide, dry excess on outside, and place on a tray in the oven on

VERY low heat (maybe 100 degrees). Watch carefully, and pull out when

moisture is evaporated. For plastic -- cool to lukewarm water, towel

drying and natural evaporation.

I always reuse glass... plastic I am more wary of. I never store

essential oils in plastic -- I've seen what many of them do to it! I

reuse small plastic jars and bottles for shower soap and creams I've

made -- things with low concentrations of volatile oils that won't be

in the jars for a very long time. Anyway, good luck!

Rose

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There was a good thread a while back about cleaning. When you pull up

message 9713 (Hi e, where you been hiding?!) just look at the

posts in the thread. Lots of good stuff there.

--

Sincerely, Anya

Anya's Garden http://AnyasGarden.com - perfumes, aromatics, classes,

consultation

Natural Perfumers Guild http://NaturalPerfumersGuild.com

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I agree that it was the only thing that worked for me. I used the clorox and salt water recipe and I no longer have the bird mites. I just have whatever it is they left me with on and in my skin. I have started taking the salt tablets and vitamin C that Frito recommended to me. I'll let you know how it goes.

lou

From: Singleton <baboig@...>Subject: cleaningbird mites Date: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 3:47 AM

I'm starting to think one of the only ways to get rid of these things is to constantly clean like rita did. At the start of all of this(2 years ago) that's what I did but now my problem is somewhat controlled I clean about once a week but do laundry every single day(clothing is a major issue for me). How often do you clean and do you think constant cleaning and using products on yourself is the key to getting rid of these?

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Lou,

It's so nice to hear you've rid yourself of the little buggers and you are now on the road to recovery! Do keep us posted because it's so nice to hear the success stories and it gives us such hope.

cleaningbird mitesDate: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 3:47 AM

I'm starting to think one of the only ways to get rid of these things is to constantly clean like rita did. At the start of all of this(2 years ago) that's what I did but now my problem is somewhat controlled I clean about once a week but do laundry every single day(clothing is a major issue for me). How often do you clean and do you think constant cleaning and using products on yourself is the key to getting rid of these?

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Crack or crevice, wall void, treat, my rule of thumb. Edges of wall, carpet,

treat. Yard treat, foundation treat, basement. attic, treat. Under bathtub,

treat. I never wiped down anything and got well. I was the host, in my opinion.

I have stressed this so many times. You must make the environment hostile but

also treat yourself as the host, not the environment. Morgellon will have you if

you do not get well and strong.

>

> I'm in the middle of stripping my downstairs - and saying that I am

overwhelmed is such an understatement...

>

> Can you all give me some advice? Do you wipe out your cupboards daily? Every

surface - every room - every day? I want to do everything right - but I'm lost.

>

> Also - I still have empty dressers and chests in each bedroom - do you think

I should remove them? Or do I need to move them every time I vacuum and mop?

>

> We have removed all of our carpeting, but between the floor (plywood) and the

wall there are sometimes cracks or spaces... Should we dust those or caulk it -

what do you think?

>

> I'm getting very concerned about Morgellon's lately. Is there any way to head

it off (if it is something that progresses - still clueless about the whole

thing)or would it be wise to begin treating as if I have it? Would appreciate

any advice about that. BTW what is a bio film?

>

> - does every lyme (specialty) doctor test for all of the co infections

like yours does? I would never be able to afford to go to CA and see your

doctor...but it is tempting. I was just hoping that maybe I could find a doctor

like her in IL.

>

> Thank you all so much. This thing has me over a barrel and I feel so alone.

Thank you for your advice.

>

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I agree - just lost right now. I'm kicking my own butt right now as well - as I

can't sleep or eat... I'm giving them free reign.

Can you tell me what you did to make yourself strong again? What cell salt did

you use? I just ordered some of the PHenominon (?) water. Hope that wasn't a big

waste of limited income... I tried oil pulling with sesame oil and threw up

twice...lol I'll keep trying! There is just so much to think over, too much

information, and way too much to do. I'm starting to fall apart.

Thank you so much for your help Marie.

> >

> > I'm in the middle of stripping my downstairs - and saying that I am

overwhelmed is such an understatement...

> >

> > Can you all give me some advice? Do you wipe out your cupboards daily?

Every surface - every room - every day? I want to do everything right - but I'm

lost.

> >

> > Also - I still have empty dressers and chests in each bedroom - do you

think I should remove them? Or do I need to move them every time I vacuum and

mop?

> >

> > We have removed all of our carpeting, but between the floor (plywood) and

the wall there are sometimes cracks or spaces... Should we dust those or caulk

it - what do you think?

> >

> > I'm getting very concerned about Morgellon's lately. Is there any way to

head it off (if it is something that progresses - still clueless about the whole

thing)or would it be wise to begin treating as if I have it? Would appreciate

any advice about that. BTW what is a bio film?

> >

> > - does every lyme (specialty) doctor test for all of the co

infections like yours does? I would never be able to afford to go to CA and see

your doctor...but it is tempting. I was just hoping that maybe I could find a

doctor like her in IL.

> >

> > Thank you all so much. This thing has me over a barrel and I feel so alone.

Thank you for your advice.

> >

>

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Make your own pH water. I should have posted this the pH water is good but if

resources are limited make your own for cents. Yes pun intended:)

http://thehealthcure.com/make-your-own-ph-booster-with-mms/

http://www.ehow.com/how_5720374_make-drinkable-ph-booster.html

http://wn.com/Make_your_own_Ph_Booster_with_MMS

> > >

> > > I'm in the middle of stripping my downstairs - and saying that I am

overwhelmed is such an understatement...

> > >

> > > Can you all give me some advice? Do you wipe out your cupboards daily?

Every surface - every room - every day? I want to do everything right - but I'm

lost.

> > >

> > > Also - I still have empty dressers and chests in each bedroom - do you

think I should remove them? Or do I need to move them every time I vacuum and

mop?

> > >

> > > We have removed all of our carpeting, but between the floor (plywood) and

the wall there are sometimes cracks or spaces... Should we dust those or caulk

it - what do you think?

> > >

> > > I'm getting very concerned about Morgellon's lately. Is there any way to

head it off (if it is something that progresses - still clueless about the whole

thing)or would it be wise to begin treating as if I have it? Would appreciate

any advice about that. BTW what is a bio film?

> > >

> > > - does every lyme (specialty) doctor test for all of the co

infections like yours does? I would never be able to afford to go to CA and see

your doctor...but it is tempting. I was just hoping that maybe I could find a

doctor like her in IL.

> > >

> > > Thank you all so much. This thing has me over a barrel and I feel so

alone. Thank you for your advice.

> > >

> >

> dosage

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Cell salts cheap easy. Best buy 2nd link, best explanation first link.

If strapped for funds that will help your health do things cheap and effective

as possible.

http://www.elixirs.com/products/cell_salts.cfm

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/HY052/ItemDetail?n=0

> > > >

> > > > I'm in the middle of stripping my downstairs - and saying that I am

overwhelmed is such an understatement...

> > > >

> > > > Can you all give me some advice? Do you wipe out your cupboards daily?

Every surface - every room - every day? I want to do everything right - but I'm

lost.

> > > >

> > > > Also - I still have empty dressers and chests in each bedroom - do you

think I should remove them? Or do I need to move them every time I vacuum and

mop?

> > > >

> > > > We have removed all of our carpeting, but between the floor (plywood)

and the wall there are sometimes cracks or spaces... Should we dust those or

caulk it - what do you think?

> > > >

> > > > I'm getting very concerned about Morgellon's lately. Is there any way

to head it off (if it is something that progresses - still clueless about the

whole thing)or would it be wise to begin treating as if I have it? Would

appreciate any advice about that. BTW what is a bio film?

> > > >

> > > > - does every lyme (specialty) doctor test for all of the co

infections like yours does? I would never be able to afford to go to CA and see

your doctor...but it is tempting. I was just hoping that maybe I could find a

doctor like her in IL.

> > > >

> > > > Thank you all so much. This thing has me over a barrel and I feel so

alone. Thank you for your advice.

> > > >

> > >

> > dosage

>

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Is there anything you can't make Marie!? You're amazing! =)

> > > >

> > > > I'm in the middle of stripping my downstairs - and saying that I am

overwhelmed is such an understatement...

> > > >

> > > > Can you all give me some advice? Do you wipe out your cupboards daily?

Every surface - every room - every day? I want to do everything right - but I'm

lost.

> > > >

> > > > Also - I still have empty dressers and chests in each bedroom - do you

think I should remove them? Or do I need to move them every time I vacuum and

mop?

> > > >

> > > > We have removed all of our carpeting, but between the floor (plywood)

and the wall there are sometimes cracks or spaces... Should we dust those or

caulk it - what do you think?

> > > >

> > > > I'm getting very concerned about Morgellon's lately. Is there any way

to head it off (if it is something that progresses - still clueless about the

whole thing)or would it be wise to begin treating as if I have it? Would

appreciate any advice about that. BTW what is a bio film?

> > > >

> > > > - does every lyme (specialty) doctor test for all of the co

infections like yours does? I would never be able to afford to go to CA and see

your doctor...but it is tempting. I was just hoping that maybe I could find a

doctor like her in IL.

> > > >

> > > > Thank you all so much. This thing has me over a barrel and I feel so

alone. Thank you for your advice.

> > > >

> > >

> > dosage

>

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A good marriage:)

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm in the middle of stripping my downstairs - and saying that I am

overwhelmed is such an understatement...

> > > > >

> > > > > Can you all give me some advice? Do you wipe out your cupboards

daily? Every surface - every room - every day? I want to do everything right -

but I'm lost.

> > > > >

> > > > > Also - I still have empty dressers and chests in each bedroom - do

you think I should remove them? Or do I need to move them every time I vacuum

and mop?

> > > > >

> > > > > We have removed all of our carpeting, but between the floor (plywood)

and the wall there are sometimes cracks or spaces... Should we dust those or

caulk it - what do you think?

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm getting very concerned about Morgellon's lately. Is there any way

to head it off (if it is something that progresses - still clueless about the

whole thing)or would it be wise to begin treating as if I have it? Would

appreciate any advice about that. BTW what is a bio film?

> > > > >

> > > > > - does every lyme (specialty) doctor test for all of the co

infections like yours does? I would never be able to afford to go to CA and see

your doctor...but it is tempting. I was just hoping that maybe I could find a

doctor like her in IL.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you all so much. This thing has me over a barrel and I feel so

alone. Thank you for your advice.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > dosage

> >

>

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Thanks Marie!

From: les_lee77 <langfords@...>Subject: Re: Cleaningbird mites Date: Sunday, September 5, 2010, 7:45 PM

Is there anything you can't make Marie!? You're amazing! =)> > > >> > > > I'm in the middle of stripping my downstairs - and saying that I am overwhelmed is such an understatement...> > > > > > > > Can you all give me some advice? Do you wipe out your cupboards daily? Every surface - every room - every day? I want to do everything right - but I'm lost. > > > > > > > > Also - I still have empty dressers and chests in each bedroom - do you think I should remove them? Or do I need to move them every time I vacuum and mop? > > > > > > > > We have removed all of our carpeting, but between the floor (plywood) and the wall there are sometimes cracks or spaces... Should we dust those or caulk it - what do you think?> > > > > > > > I'm getting very concerned about Morgellon's lately. Is there any way to head it off (if it is

something that progresses - still clueless about the whole thing)or would it be wise to begin treating as if I have it? Would appreciate any advice about that. BTW what is a bio film?> > > > > > > > - does every lyme (specialty) doctor test for all of the co infections like yours does? I would never be able to afford to go to CA and see your doctor...but it is tempting. I was just hoping that maybe I could find a doctor like her in IL.> > > > > > > > Thank you all so much. This thing has me over a barrel and I feel so alone. Thank you for your advice.> > > >> > >> > dosage>

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Your welcome

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm in the middle of stripping my downstairs - and saying that I am

overwhelmed is such an understatement...

> > > > >

> > > > > Can you all give me some advice? Do you wipe out your cupboards daily?

Every surface - every room - every day? I want to do everything right - but I'm

lost.

> > > > >

> > > > > Also - I still have empty dressers and chests in each bedroom - do you

think I should remove them? Or do I need to move them every time I vacuum and

mop?

> > > > >

> > > > > We have removed all of our carpeting, but between the floor (plywood)

and the wall there are sometimes cracks or spaces... Should we dust those or

caulk it - what do you think?

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm getting very concerned about Morgellon's lately. Is there any way

to head it off (if it is something that progresses - still clueless about the

whole thing)or would it be wise to begin treating as if I have it? Would

appreciate any advice about that. BTW what is a bio film?

> > > > >

> > > > > - does every lyme (specialty) doctor test for all of the co

infections like yours does? I would never be able to afford to go to CA and see

your doctor...but it is tempting. I was just hoping that maybe I could find a

doctor like her in IL.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you all so much. This thing has me over a barrel and I feel so

alone. Thank you for your advice.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > dosage

> >

>

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Hope you got my humor, I can make everything but a good marriage. Something I

have given up on:)

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm in the middle of stripping my downstairs - and saying that I am

overwhelmed is such an understatement...

> > > > >

> > > > > Can you all give me some advice? Do you wipe out your cupboards

daily? Every surface - every room - every day? I want to do everything right -

but I'm lost.

> > > > >

> > > > > Also - I still have empty dressers and chests in each bedroom - do

you think I should remove them? Or do I need to move them every time I vacuum

and mop?

> > > > >

> > > > > We have removed all of our carpeting, but between the floor (plywood)

and the wall there are sometimes cracks or spaces... Should we dust those or

caulk it - what do you think?

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm getting very concerned about Morgellon's lately. Is there any way

to head it off (if it is something that progresses - still clueless about the

whole thing)or would it be wise to begin treating as if I have it? Would

appreciate any advice about that. BTW what is a bio film?

> > > > >

> > > > > - does every lyme (specialty) doctor test for all of the co

infections like yours does? I would never be able to afford to go to CA and see

your doctor...but it is tempting. I was just hoping that maybe I could find a

doctor like her in IL.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you all so much. This thing has me over a barrel and I feel so

alone. Thank you for your advice.

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > dosage

> >

>

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LOL I'm going to have my 12 year old make the eco enzyme. She loves to make

things like that and I think she would enjoy it. I would really enjoy having it

too! I'm with Lynn - you should sell it.

Thanks for all of your help!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I'm in the middle of stripping my downstairs - and saying that I am

overwhelmed is such an understatement...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Can you all give me some advice? Do you wipe out your cupboards

daily? Every surface - every room - every day? I want to do everything right -

but I'm lost.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also - I still have empty dressers and chests in each bedroom - do

you think I should remove them? Or do I need to move them every time I vacuum

and mop?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We have removed all of our carpeting, but between the floor

(plywood) and the wall there are sometimes cracks or spaces... Should we dust

those or caulk it - what do you think?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I'm getting very concerned about Morgellon's lately. Is there any

way to head it off (if it is something that progresses - still clueless about

the whole thing)or would it be wise to begin treating as if I have it? Would

appreciate any advice about that. BTW what is a bio film?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - does every lyme (specialty) doctor test for all of the co

infections like yours does? I would never be able to afford to go to CA and see

your doctor...but it is tempting. I was just hoping that maybe I could find a

doctor like her in IL.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank you all so much. This thing has me over a barrel and I feel

so alone. Thank you for your advice.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > dosage

> > >

> >

>

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I got it! =) BUT if you had a good marriage you wouldn't have the time... my

problem!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I'm in the middle of stripping my downstairs - and saying that I am

overwhelmed is such an understatement...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Can you all give me some advice? Do you wipe out your cupboards

daily? Every surface - every room - every day? I want to do everything right -

but I'm lost.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Also - I still have empty dressers and chests in each bedroom - do

you think I should remove them? Or do I need to move them every time I vacuum

and mop?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > We have removed all of our carpeting, but between the floor

(plywood) and the wall there are sometimes cracks or spaces... Should we dust

those or caulk it - what do you think?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I'm getting very concerned about Morgellon's lately. Is there any

way to head it off (if it is something that progresses - still clueless about

the whole thing)or would it be wise to begin treating as if I have it? Would

appreciate any advice about that. BTW what is a bio film?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - does every lyme (specialty) doctor test for all of the co

infections like yours does? I would never be able to afford to go to CA and see

your doctor...but it is tempting. I was just hoping that maybe I could find a

doctor like her in IL.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thank you all so much. This thing has me over a barrel and I feel

so alone. Thank you for your advice.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > dosage

> > >

> >

>

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LOL So true:)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I'm in the middle of stripping my downstairs - and saying that I

am overwhelmed is such an understatement...

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> > > > > > > Can you all give me some advice? Do you wipe out your cupboards

daily? Every surface - every room - every day? I want to do everything right -

but I'm lost.

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do you think I should remove them? Or do I need to move them every time I vacuum

and mop?

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> > > > > > > We have removed all of our carpeting, but between the floor

(plywood) and the wall there are sometimes cracks or spaces... Should we dust

those or caulk it - what do you think?

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> > > > > > > I'm getting very concerned about Morgellon's lately. Is there any

way to head it off (if it is something that progresses - still clueless about

the whole thing)or would it be wise to begin treating as if I have it? Would

appreciate any advice about that. BTW what is a bio film?

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> > > > > > > - does every lyme (specialty) doctor test for all of the co

infections like yours does? I would never be able to afford to go to CA and see

your doctor...but it is tempting. I was just hoping that maybe I could find a

doctor like her in IL.

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so alone. Thank you for your advice.

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I have spent hours digging this stuff up, more like years. And the failed and

tried thing to. So actually you can have a good marriage and still pull this off

the homework is done:0 LOL

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I am overwhelmed is such an understatement...

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daily? Every surface - every room - every day? I want to do everything right -

but I'm lost.

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> > > > > > > > Also - I still have empty dressers and chests in each bedroom -

do you think I should remove them? Or do I need to move them every time I vacuum

and mop?

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> > > > > > > > We have removed all of our carpeting, but between the floor

(plywood) and the wall there are sometimes cracks or spaces... Should we dust

those or caulk it - what do you think?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I'm getting very concerned about Morgellon's lately. Is there

any way to head it off (if it is something that progresses - still clueless

about the whole thing)or would it be wise to begin treating as if I have it?

Would appreciate any advice about that. BTW what is a bio film?

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > - does every lyme (specialty) doctor test for all of the

co infections like yours does? I would never be able to afford to go to CA and

see your doctor...but it is tempting. I was just hoping that maybe I could find

a doctor like her in IL.

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> > > > > > > > Thank you all so much. This thing has me over a barrel and I

feel so alone. Thank you for your advice.

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Thank you - I really appreciate it. My poor husband has been put through the do

with this. He works so hard along side of me - with six children there is a lot

of work for us both. He has burned our mattresses, ripped out carpeting, sprayed

the house, dogs and horses... you know - it's neverending. I have to keep

reminding myself that he doesn't feel this. This thing doesn't bother him. I am

truly blessed. I hear other women saying that their husband's think they are

crazy...I thank God. I actually do have a good marriage - let's see if it can

stay that way through this whole thing... =)

Thank you Marie.

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that I am overwhelmed is such an understatement...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Can you all give me some advice? Do you wipe out your

cupboards daily? Every surface - every room - every day? I want to do everything

right - but I'm lost.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Also - I still have empty dressers and chests in each bedroom

- do you think I should remove them? Or do I need to move them every time I

vacuum and mop?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > We have removed all of our carpeting, but between the floor

(plywood) and the wall there are sometimes cracks or spaces... Should we dust

those or caulk it - what do you think?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I'm getting very concerned about Morgellon's lately. Is there

any way to head it off (if it is something that progresses - still clueless

about the whole thing)or would it be wise to begin treating as if I have it?

Would appreciate any advice about that. BTW what is a bio film?

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > - does every lyme (specialty) doctor test for all of

the co infections like yours does? I would never be able to afford to go to CA

and see your doctor...but it is tempting. I was just hoping that maybe I could

find a doctor like her in IL.

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> > > > > > > > > Thank you all so much. This thing has me over a barrel and I

feel so alone. Thank you for your advice.

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Hi les leeI got tested for lots of things, but the co-infections Dr. Metzger treated based on symptomatology only. The Lyme was found through blood sample, but so often these co-infections go along with the Lyme. It is so darn maddening. Sorry you don't have a doctor like her in IL. I found Dr. Metzger through the ILADS website. By the way, the Lyme Disease conference is set for Oct 15-17 and Dr. Metzger will be speaking too. Wish I could afford to go there to hear everyone speak. It is way out of the ballpark for me after a trip to Europe. Even some doctors do not test for Lyme by treat based on symptoms. I have a friend on another site who saw a doctor who did just that. He is in California too unfortunately, near Chico. Cleaning

I'm in the middle of stripping my downstairs - and saying that I am overwhelmed is such an understatement...Can you all give me some advice? Do you wipe out your cupboards daily? Every surface - every room - every day? I want to do everything right - but I'm lost. Also - I still have empty dressers and chests in each bedroom - do you think I should remove them? Or do I need to move them every time I vacuum and mop? We have removed all of our carpeting, but between the floor (plywood) and the wall there are sometimes cracks or spaces... Should we dust those or caulk it - what do you think?I'm getting very concerned about Morgellon's lately. Is there any way to head it off (if it is something that progresses - still clueless about the whole thing)or would it be wise to begin treating as if I have it? Would appreciate any advice about that. BTW what is a bio film? - does every lyme (specialty) doctor test for all of the co infections like yours does? I would never be able to afford to go to CA and see your doctor...but it is tempting. I was just hoping that maybe I could find a doctor like her in IL.Thank you all so much. This thing has me over a barrel and I feel so alone. Thank you for your advice.

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Is treatment for the co infections the same as the treatment for Lyme? I was

wondering if there was something (anti-fungal, antibacterial, etc.) that might

work for co infection treatment if I can't find a doctor who will test for them.

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> Hi les lee

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> I got tested for lots of things, but the co-infections Dr. Metzger treated

based on symptomatology only. The Lyme was found through blood sample, but so

often these co-infections go along with the Lyme. It is so darn maddening.

Sorry you don't have a doctor like her in IL. I found Dr. Metzger through the

ILADS website. By the way, the Lyme Disease conference is set for Oct 15-17 and

Dr. Metzger will be speaking too. Wish I could afford to go there to hear

everyone speak. It is way out of the ballpark for me after a trip to Europe.

Even some doctors do not test for Lyme by treat based on symptoms. I have a

friend on another site who saw a doctor who did just that. He is in California

too unfortunately, near Chico.

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surface - every room - every day? I want to do everything right - but I'm lost.

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> Also - I still have empty dressers and chests in each bedroom - do you think I

should remove them? Or do I need to move them every time I vacuum and mop?

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> We have removed all of our carpeting, but between the floor (plywood) and the

wall there are sometimes cracks or spaces... Should we dust those or caulk it -

what do you think?

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> I'm getting very concerned about Morgellon's lately. Is there any way to head

it off (if it is something that progresses - still clueless about the whole

thing)or would it be wise to begin treating as if I have it? Would appreciate

any advice about that. BTW what is a bio film?

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> - does every lyme (specialty) doctor test for all of the co infections

like yours does? I would never be able to afford to go to CA and see your

doctor...but it is tempting. I was just hoping that maybe I could find a doctor

like her in IL.

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> Thank you all so much. This thing has me over a barrel and I feel so alone.

Thank you for your advice.

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It was my belief when I had the mites or whatevers that they did not go into closets (like dish or pots and pan cupboards or even my linen closet). Wherever I got bites, I knew they were. They stick closer to us, so if near the bed at night, on floors, in the shower, in drains, on keyboard and mouse, in computer, on monitor, into cracks near bed, or walls, or linens on the beds, or anyplace we would hang out. We had them initially in our downstairs. After getting rid of carpets and most of our furniture we had emptied our house almost. We moved ou8r bed (purchased simple frame from Ikea) and set up an air mattress on the frame. We lived on that pretty much. We had a couple of chairs to sit on, that I kept taped up with plastic covers and a simple table which I sprayed daily since I got lots of bites there. Did not rid of bookcases or TV entertainment center. Covered some of bookcases with DE which caused respiratory problem. So I'd vacuum that up and mop with ammonia water which wrecked floors, but I didn't care at this point. I felt it was necessary to do a lot of praying during this time... I should keep it up, but sometimes forget. Cleaning

I'm in the middle of stripping my downstairs - and saying that I am overwhelmed is such an understatement...Can you all give me some advice? Do you wipe out your cupboards daily? Every surface - every room - every day? I want to do everything right - but I'm lost. Also - I still have empty dressers and chests in each bedroom - do you think I should remove them? Or do I need to move them every time I vacuum and mop? We have removed all of our carpeting, but between the floor (plywood) and the wall there are sometimes cracks or spaces... Should we dust those or caulk it - what do you think?I'm getting very concerned about Morgellon's lately. Is there any way to head it off (if it is something that progresses - still clueless about the whole thing)or would it be wise to begin treating as if I have it? Would appreciate any advice about that. BTW what is a bio film? - does every lyme (specialty) doctor test for all of the co infections like yours does? I would never be able to afford to go to CA and see your doctor...but it is tempting. I was just hoping that maybe I could find a doctor like her in IL.Thank you all so much. This thing has me over a barrel and I feel so alone. Thank you for your advice.

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Thanks - already praying many times a day. My hope is in Christ alone.

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> It was my belief when I had the mites or whatevers that they did not go into

closets (like dish or pots and pan cupboards or even my linen closet). Wherever

I got bites, I knew they were. They stick closer to us, so if near the bed at

night, on floors, in the shower, in drains, on keyboard and mouse, in computer,

on monitor, into cracks near bed, or walls, or linens on the beds, or anyplace

we would hang out. We had them initially in our downstairs. After getting rid

of carpets and most of our furniture we had emptied our house almost. We moved

ou8r bed (purchased simple frame from Ikea) and set up an air mattress on the

frame. We lived on that pretty much. We had a couple of chairs to sit on, that

I kept taped up with plastic covers and a simple table which I sprayed daily

since I got lots of bites there. Did not rid of bookcases or TV entertainment

center. Covered some of bookcases with DE which caused respiratory problem. So

I'd vacuum that up and mop with ammonia water which wrecked floors, but I didn't

care at this point.

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keep it up, but sometimes forget.

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surface - every room - every day? I want to do everything right - but I'm lost.

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> Also - I still have empty dressers and chests in each bedroom - do you think I

should remove them? Or do I need to move them every time I vacuum and mop?

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> We have removed all of our carpeting, but between the floor (plywood) and the

wall there are sometimes cracks or spaces... Should we dust those or caulk it -

what do you think?

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> I'm getting very concerned about Morgellon's lately. Is there any way to head

it off (if it is something that progresses - still clueless about the whole

thing)or would it be wise to begin treating as if I have it? Would appreciate

any advice about that. BTW what is a bio film?

>

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>

> - does every lyme (specialty) doctor test for all of the co infections

like yours does? I would never be able to afford to go to CA and see your

doctor...but it is tempting. I was just hoping that maybe I could find a doctor

like her in IL.

>

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> Thank you all so much. This thing has me over a barrel and I feel so alone.

Thank you for your advice.

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Me too les lee. Mine has worked side by side and he was affected, but less than me. I am mightly grateful. I asked him to do some cleaning of air ducts today and drain the water heater for sludge and he's doing it, even though he works hard all week. I do too and I'm working constantly too. It is good to focus on all the positives. There are many. Re: Cleaning

Thank you - I really appreciate it. My poor husband has been put through the do with this. He works so hard along side of me - with six children there is a lot of work for us both. He has burned our mattresses, ripped out carpeting, sprayed the house, dogs and horses... you know - it's neverending. I have to keep reminding myself that he doesn't feel this. This thing doesn't bother him. I am truly blessed. I hear other women saying that their husband's think they are crazy...I thank God. I actually do have a good marriage - let's see if it can stay that way through this whole thing... =)Thank you Marie.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I'm in the middle of stripping my downstairs - and saying that I am overwhelmed is such an understatement...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you all give me some advice? Do you wipe out your cupboards daily? Every surface - every room - every day? I want to do everything right - but I'm lost. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also - I still have empty dressers and chests in each bedroom - do you think I should remove them? Or do I need to move them every time I vacuum and mop? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have removed all of our carpeting, but between the floor (plywood) and the wall there are sometimes cracks or spaces... Should we dust those or caulk it - what do you think?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm getting very concerned about Morgellon's lately. Is there any way to head it off (if it is something that progresses - still clueless about the whole thing)or would it be wise to begin treating as if I have it? Would appreciate any advice about that. BTW what is a bio film?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - does every lyme (specialty) doctor test for all of the co infections like yours does? I would never be able to afford to go to CA and see your doctor...but it is tempting. I was just hoping that maybe I could find a doctor like her in IL.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you all so much. This thing has me over a barrel and I feel so alone. Thank you for your advice.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > dosage> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

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