Guest guest Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 , I don’t think so at all. Are you straight up and down.? If you lock your knees do you pitch forward? Do you feel like you look at peoples feet when you walk if you don’t make an effort to right yourself? These were clues I should have noticed in myself long before I was diagnosed. The clincher, from what Dr. Kebaish told me, is if you lean forward when you lock your knees. Best, Kate From: L M Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:56 PM Subject: [ ] Is the flatback? Hello,I am fused from T3-L1 with Harrington rods. Because my fusion does not extend deeper into my lumbar spine, does this mean that I cannot have flatback?Thank you, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 My flatback manifested itself as a fold line across my belly button (thought I was just fat in the middle). And sometimes when I threw my head back, my the back of my head would hit the top of my spinal column. Couldn't get my shoulders to go back comfortably.-DyannFrom: L M <mariconda_l@...>Subject: [ ] Is the flatback? Date: Thursday, May 12, 2011, 12:56 PM Hello,I am fused from T3-L1 with Harrington rods. Because my fusion does not extend deeper into my lumbar spine, does this mean that I cannot have flatback?Thank you, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Hi there, I had those leaning forward symptoms and was convinced it was flat back. I went to see a specialist I trust and have been told the cause of it is that I need a double hip replacement. He is very happy with my harrington rod inserted in 1965 when I was 13. When I lock my knees I certainly lean forward though but from what I see on my xrays (compared with those I see here) my spine does appear to be ok. I only post this as it may be that you have hips problems like I do. Kind regards Robyn > > , I don’t think so at all. Are you straight up and down.? If you lock your knees do you pitch forward? Do you feel like you look at peoples feet when you walk if you don’t make an effort to right yourself? > These were clues I should have noticed in myself long before I was diagnosed. The clincher, from what Dr. Kebaish told me, is if you lean forward when you lock your knees. Best, Kate > From: L M > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:56 PM > > Subject: [ ] Is the flatback? > > > > Hello, > > I am fused from T3-L1 with Harrington rods. Because my fusion does not extend deeper into my lumbar spine, does this mean that I cannot have flatback? > > Thank you, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 I’ve been assessed by a leading doc in flatback at s Hopkins so I feel sure of the diagnosis. However I know that flatback causes hips and knees to wear out prematurely. Remember relatively few orthopedic surgeons know much of anything about flatback.. From: robynn1351 Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 11:17 PM Subject: [ ] Re: Is the flatback? Hi there,I had those leaning forward symptoms and was convinced it was flat back. I went to see a specialist I trust and have been told the cause of it is that I need a double hip replacement. He is very happy with my harrington rod inserted in 1965 when I was 13. When I lock my knees I certainly lean forward though but from what I see on my xrays (compared with those I see here) my spine does appear to be ok.I only post this as it may be that you have hips problems like I do.Kind regardsRobyn>> , I don’t think so at all. Are you straight up and down.? If you lock your knees do you pitch forward? Do you feel like you look at peoples feet when you walk if you don’t make an effort to right yourself?> These were clues I should have noticed in myself long before I was diagnosed. The clincher, from what Dr. Kebaish told me, is if you lean forward when you lock your knees. Best, Kate > From: L M > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:56 PM> mailto: %40 > Subject: [ ] Is the flatback?> > > > Hello,> > I am fused from T3-L1 with Harrington rods. Because my fusion does not extend deeper into my lumbar spine, does this mean that I cannot have flatback?> > Thank you,> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 Hi Kate,Although my knees are sore, when I lock them, I don't pitch forward, at least not yet. What I do have is extremely stiff muscles in my back, shoulders, neck and beyond. About 6 months ago, I started getting this electrical current sensation in my hands, and recently, my gait seems to be off. I have an appt with Dr. at Toronto Western Hospital next week, so it will be interesting to see what he has to say.Warmly,From: Kate Carroll <katecarr@...> Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 1:22:49 PMSubject: Re: [ ] Is the flatback? , I don’t think so at all. Are you straight up and down.? If you lock your knees do you pitch forward? Do you feel like you look at peoples feet when you walk if you don’t make an effort to right yourself? These were clues I should have noticed in myself long before I was diagnosed. The clincher, from what Dr. Kebaish told me, is if you lean forward when you lock your knees. Best, Kate From: L M Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:56 PM Subject: [ ] Is the flatback? Hello,I am fused from T3-L1 with Harrington rods. Because my fusion does not extend deeper into my lumbar spine, does this mean that I cannot have flatback?Thank you, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 ,Given that you aren't fused very low, it maybe that you have deterioration below or above your fusion mass, causing pain and symptoms, I know by reading after my own diagnosis, that fusion to L3 seemed to be the cut off for flatback on the high end, where I was fused with my Harrington rod. Most of the group members back then where fused even lower than me. I did have an odd auto fusion below my end point to L4-5 when the surgeon got in there. I'm glad you are seeing an experienced surgeon in Dr. . Please do update us with what he has to say. My guess is that maybe you are having issues further up your spine, and even if it doesn't prove to be that you have Flatback, it's good to have yourself looked at, and know exactly whats going on. I wish you good information at your appointment!Colorado SpringsOn Fri, May 13, 2011 at 6:50 AM, L M <mariconda_l@...> wrote: Hi Kate,Although my knees are sore, when I lock them, I don't pitch forward, at least not yet. What I do have is extremely stiff muscles in my back, shoulders, neck and beyond. About 6 months ago, I started getting this electrical current sensation in my hands, and recently, my gait seems to be off. I have an appt with Dr. at Toronto Western Hospital next week, so it will be interesting to see what he has to say. Warmly, From: Kate Carroll <katecarr@...> Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 1:22:49 PMSubject: Re: [ ] Is the flatback? , I don’t think so at all. Are you straight up and down.? If you lock your knees do you pitch forward? Do you feel like you look at peoples feet when you walk if you don’t make an effort to right yourself? These were clues I should have noticed in myself long before I was diagnosed. The clincher, from what Dr. Kebaish told me, is if you lean forward when you lock your knees. Best, Kate From: L M Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:56 PM Subject: [ ] Is the flatback? Hello,I am fused from T3-L1 with Harrington rods. Because my fusion does not extend deeper into my lumbar spine, does this mean that I cannot have flatback?Thank you, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 Thank you so much, . I'll keep you posted!From: Kirkaldie <susan.kirkaldie@...> Sent: Fri, May 13, 2011 9:44:36 AMSubject: Re: [ ] Is the flatback? ,Given that you aren't fused very low, it maybe that you have deterioration below or above your fusion mass, causing pain and symptoms, I know by reading after my own diagnosis, that fusion to L3 seemed to be the cut off for flatback on the high end, where I was fused with my Harrington rod. Most of the group members back then where fused even lower than me. I did have an odd auto fusion below my end point to L4-5 when the surgeon got in there. I'm glad you are seeing an experienced surgeon in Dr. . Please do update us with what he has to say. My guess is that maybe you are having issues further up your spine, and even if it doesn't prove to be that you have Flatback, it's good to have yourself looked at, and know exactly whats going on. I wish you good information at your appointment!Colorado SpringsOn Fri, May 13, 2011 at 6:50 AM, L M <mariconda_l@...> wrote: Hi Kate,Although my knees are sore, when I lock them, I don't pitch forward, at least not yet. What I do have is extremely stiff muscles in my back, shoulders, neck and beyond. About 6 months ago, I started getting this electrical current sensation in my hands, and recently, my gait seems to be off. I have an appt with Dr. at Toronto Western Hospital next week, so it will be interesting to see what he has to say. Warmly, From: Kate Carroll <katecarr@...> Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 1:22:49 PMSubject: Re: [ ] Is the flatback? , I don’t think so at all. Are you straight up and down.? If you lock your knees do you pitch forward? Do you feel like you look at peoples feet when you walk if you don’t make an effort to right yourself? These were clues I should have noticed in myself long before I was diagnosed. The clincher, from what Dr. Kebaish told me, is if you lean forward when you lock your knees. Best, Kate From: L M Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:56 PM Subject: [ ] Is the flatback? Hello,I am fused from T3-L1 with Harrington rods. Because my fusion does not extend deeper into my lumbar spine, does this mean that I cannot have flatback?Thank you, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 For the record, not everyone with flatback pitches forward significantly, and not everyone who pitches forward has flatback. > > Hi Kate, > Although my knees are sore, when I lock them, I don't pitch forward, at least > not yet. What I do have is extremely stiff muscles in my back, shoulders, neck > and beyond. About 6 months ago, I started getting this electrical current > sensation in my hands, and recently, my gait seems to be off. I have an appt > with Dr. at Toronto Western Hospital next week, so it will be > interesting to see what he has to say. > Warmly, > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Kate Carroll <katecarr@...> > > Sent: Thu, May 12, 2011 1:22:49 PM > Subject: Re: [ ] Is the flatback? > > > , I don’t think so at all. Are you straight up and down.? If you lock your > knees do you pitch forward? Do you feel like you look at peoples feet when you > walk if you don’t make an effort to right yourself? > These were clues I should have noticed in myself long before I was diagnosed. > The clincher, from what Dr. Kebaish told me, is if you lean forward when you > lock your knees. Best, Kate > > From: L M > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 12:56 PM > > Subject: [ ] Is the flatback? > > > Hello, > > I am fused from T3-L1 with Harrington rods. Because my fusion does not extend > deeper into my lumbar spine, does this mean that I cannot have flatback? > > Thank you, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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