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Debbie,

Thank you. This is a big help. This is going to be hard when

we go to Seattle, after flying there etc., it will be hard to stay

in the waiting room. Maybe I will start with our Boise

rheum. Jana

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Jenni,

Thank you. I will do some thinking about this whole

issue. I will try harder to listen to my son. His

situation is almost opposite yours.... he says he

feels fine, no problem... until the Dr. says he is

having a flare. If I truely listened to him, he would

just take Prednisone and stay away from anything

medical as much as possible. Thanks, Jana

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Hi Jenni,

Thanks for your insight on this topic. I'm sorry to hear that you've had

to put up with loved ones second-guessing how you are feeling, based on

a doctors opinion and exam. That's not fair. The way I see it, Josh

doesn't like feeling sick. Who does? He has no reason to say he's not

feeling well, if he is. Sometimes I wish he could be a little more

specific during a flare and instead of saying he hurts all over,

everywhere, to be able to tell me the specific joints or body areas that

are most sore. Instead, I have to go through the long check list and

finally I get to understand that he feels pretty lousy all over but it's

the elbow and knee, for example, that are most sore. When he's got a

high fever and fatigue, his whole body feels achey. Even if I cannot see

visible inflammation in his joints, that doesn't mean he's fine. I

learned the hard way, when he had pleurisy and pericarditis. I take his

word for it, as far as not feeling good. He's also the first one to wake

up and say, gee I feel really good today! I think everything's okay! And

even if his SED rate is still high, if he feels good, I'm happy.

Take care,

Georgina

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> In a message dated 2/1/00 4:01:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, JANABECKER@...

> writes:

>

> << In all your wisdom, what role do you think parents should play at what

ages? >>

>

> Jana,

>

> Honestly? I have no idea. I do wish they would take my opinion more

> seriously than the doctor's. They have a mindset where the professional is

> always right, and in my experience I've found that's not always true. For

> example, they'll come with me to the rheumatologist and I'll tell him that

> I've been feeling awful recently and my joints hurt and I have trouble moving

> without pain -- then the doctor examines me, says he doesn't see any major

> swelling, and from that moment on my parents decide I'm not having a flare

> and everything's fine, and they start ignoring my complaints of pain. That

> scenario has happened so many times I couldn't begin to count. I've tried

> talking to them about it, talking to the doctor about it, talking to them and

> the doctor at the same time, even professional therapy. It didn't do much.

> At this point, the best I can do is settle back and make my own decisions

> about my health care, and try not to feel too guilty if I happen to disagree

> with my parents. It was a HUGE relief having my 18th birthday. They can no

> longer sign the consent form that says " Take our daughter and do whatever you

> want to her even if it's incredibly painful\expensive\unnecessary and she

> disagrees " .

>

> cheers

> Jenni

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Anne,

Welcome! I too suffer from Graves and TED. At times, I think the TED is

worse than the Graves. It has caused me much distress. In fact, my

self-confidence is very low. My appearance is changing and there is nothing

I can do. I have found relief in yoga. Relieves stress. I do not take the

supplements. I opted for RAI in May 99. After many months, I am feeling

better and almost like my self. If the eyes would just clear up. I have no

cure but, I wanted to let you know I share your pain with the TED. We must

stay positive!

I wish you the best,

K.

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>

>I am really pleased to have found this group, I have suffered from

>Graves' for almost three years now. It started in the first trimester

>of pregnancy and I have taken ATD's ever since with no remission at any

>time. I have managed to escape RAI so far (only because I was

>breastfeeding for a while) but my doc is now really pushing for me to

>have it. I don't understand the meaning of my blood results but maybe

>someone can help me, my last results were T4 = 54, T3 = 5.9 TSH = .01

>can anyone explain these to me. I live in Scotland and I find the

>doctors here reluctant to explain thing in any detail. I also have

>TED which I find extremely distressful and difficult to cope with,

>although my husband says I look fine, I feel really cheated by this

>change in appearance. I was 32 when I was diagnosed with Graves', I

>believe this is quite a common age. I have read 's list of

>supplements and would like to try them but I'd really like to hear from

>anyone who has had marked success with these supplements. Sorry this

>has turned out a bit long winded.

>

>Thanks

>Anne.

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mary K,

Thanks for your mail, it is good to know we are not alone. You mentioned

that you have had RAI last year - how did you feel directly after the

treatment and did you get predisone cover prior to and after the RAI to

protect your eyes? Are you now hypo? Mail me privately if you prefer.

Thanks Again

Anne.

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>Hi All,

>

>I am really pleased to have found this group, I have suffered from

>Graves' for almost three years now. It started in the first trimester

>of pregnancy and I have taken ATD's ever since with no remission at any

>time. I have managed to escape RAI so far (only because I was

>breastfeeding for a while) but my doc is now really pushing for me to

>have it. I don't understand the meaning of my blood results but maybe

>someone can help me, my last results were T4 = 54, T3 = 5.9 TSH = .01

>can anyone explain these to me. I live in Scotland and I find the

>doctors here reluctant to explain thing in any detail. I also have

>TED which I find extremely distressful and difficult to cope with,

>although my husband says I look fine, I feel really cheated by this

>change in appearance. I was 32 when I was diagnosed with Graves', I

>believe this is quite a common age. I have read 's list of

>supplements and would like to try them but I'd really like to hear from

>anyone who has had marked success with these supplements. Sorry this

>has turned out a bit long winded.

>

>Thanks

>Anne.

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Anne, I felt weird the day after the RAI. Hard to explain. I did not take

prendisone --nor was it offered. I am not hypo yet. TSH was .03 a month

ago. I do feel good despite the low reading.

I just wish the eyes would clear up. The swelling and tearing really get to

me. I am thankful I am not alone. This is a good site. I do not take the

supplements just because I prefer to stick with my present course. Yoga,

chiropractor and lots of prayer that the RAI does its job.

Keep positive thoughts--I think this is important too.

Email me any time. I love to correspond.

K.

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>

>>Hi All,

>>

>>I am really pleased to have found this group, I have suffered from

>>Graves' for almost three years now. It started in the first trimester

>>of pregnancy and I have taken ATD's ever since with no remission at any

>>time. I have managed to escape RAI so far (only because I was

>>breastfeeding for a while) but my doc is now really pushing for me to

>>have it. I don't understand the meaning of my blood results but maybe

>>someone can help me, my last results were T4 = 54, T3 = 5.9 TSH = .01

>>can anyone explain these to me. I live in Scotland and I find the

>>doctors here reluctant to explain thing in any detail. I also have

>>TED which I find extremely distressful and difficult to cope with,

>>although my husband says I look fine, I feel really cheated by this

>>change in appearance. I was 32 when I was diagnosed with Graves', I

>>believe this is quite a common age. I have read 's list of

>>supplements and would like to try them but I'd really like to hear from

>>anyone who has had marked success with these supplements. Sorry this

>>has turned out a bit long winded.

>>

>>Thanks

>>Anne.

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My son, ( 10 yrs.) was diagnosed with systemic JRA in Aug.99.

He was like most of the postings I've read, and it took months to

find

out what was wrong. We even had one Dr. that sent us home with a

treatment for scabies! Thank God I didn't listen to her.....it was a

terrible process. Right now he's on Prednisone, Ibuprofen, Naprosyn,

and MTX.

He has been feeling better...I think the MTX is starting to work.

We go to the Rheumy tomorrow and I hope we can start cutting back on

some of these meds. I hate pumping him full of meds everyday.

I would like for him to be able to talk to another child about this

illness. He is starting to feel depressed at not being able to do

everything his friends can.

I have really enjoyed the postings (except for s, 325 for me)

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Hi ,

Josh slept over at his friend Ray's house last night but when he came

in, just briefly, to get a toy, before heading back over I had him write

back to . Just a short note, though. He doesn't like writing

letters much. He uses the computer frequently but usually just for games

or checking sites on the internet. He acts like even writing some of the

'mandatory' thank you notes is a chore for him :( He's not that way

about his school writing assignments. Good thing! He's the same way

about the phone. Some of his friends just want to chat but he just wants

to get right to the point, with not much else to talk about. My

daughter, on the other hand, can spend forever on the phone and she

loves to write little notes and letters. Josh likes me to tell him how

kids on the list are doing. He even asks about a few, when I haven't

mentioned them in a while. He likes knowing there are others who deal

with the same sorts of thing as he does. It's not that he's in denial

about his JRA. He just doesn't seem to want to be the one making and

keeping the connections open. Maybe as he gets older that will change?

Josh has had JRA for almost 5 years. During that time, there was really

only one period where I worried because it seemed like he might be

depressed or that his mood was not quite like it normally was. That was

this past October/November. It lasted about 8 weeks. He started getting

a little bit testy, over-reacting to minor things. Getting frustrated

about needing his medicines and not getting enough relief from them.

Picking on his sister. Even getting a little irritated with his friends.

Well, at around that same time his lab results started coming back not

so good. Later on I realized that his mood had changed right around the

time of the onset of another flare. His not feeling well physically

turned out to be a major contributor. Eventually, we needed to pack up

and fly off-island to Shriner's Hospital.

One of his doctors felt we should start IV steroids but after we got

there and he was examined again by both, they decided not to. It would

have been hard because they didn't want to do it here on our island, as

the rheumatologists wouldn't be around, just his pediatrician. And while

Josh was missing school due to illness, I didn't want to take his sister

Kayla out too, so she stayed here with a close friend while Josh and

myself went over. I was planning on staying with him for a week and

flying home alone, after he got settled in. Instead, we both came home

together. And even though we didn't do the treatment we had planned for

it was a good experience. He got to know a lot of children there and got

to interact with kids with lots of serious health concerns and see how

they were coping. He has a lot of empathy and compassion for others. He

wanted to help them out, cheer them up. Taught them some new ukulele

chords, made them pictures. There were several kids with recent

accidental amputations of limbs, kids who had surgeries to correct

congenital hip and foot problems, kids who grew up with spina bifida and

who were paralyzed from the neck down .... lots of different situations.

And all of a sudden he was saying, Mom. I guess I'm kind of lucky that I

just have JRA. Even if I don't feel good sometimes it's a lot easier for

me than it is for these kids. All of a sudden he was feeling optimistic

again. Looking on the bright side of things.

Before leaving for the hospital, I had no idea the week there would have

such an affect on him. I was stressed about his illness, about leaving

my daughter behind, about arranging care for all our pets while we were

gone, etc etc. It turned out to be a very positive thing, a real

blessing in disguise. I wonder if volunteering for people less fortunate

might have a similar effect on people who are feeling down about their

illness?

Well, before this turns into a book, I'll say so long for now. I'm so

glad you found our group and hope it helps a bit. Did you see the post

from yesterday about ArthritisWebsite.com, where they have a list of JRA

kids looking for penpals? Most are girls it seems but maybe Drew would

like to check that out? Anyway, welcome! Talk to you again, soon :)

Aloha,

Georgina

beckscamp@... wrote:

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> My son, ( 10 yrs.) was diagnosed with systemic JRA in Aug.99.

> He was like most of the postings I've read, and it took months to

> find

> out what was wrong. We even had one Dr. that sent us home with a

> treatment for scabies! Thank God I didn't listen to her.....it was a

> terrible process. Right now he's on Prednisone, Ibuprofen, Naprosyn,

> and MTX.

> He has been feeling better...I think the MTX is starting to work.

> We go to the Rheumy tomorrow and I hope we can start cutting back on

> some of these meds. I hate pumping him full of meds everyday.

> I would like for him to be able to talk to another child about this

> illness. He is starting to feel depressed at not being able to do

> everything his friends can.

> I have really enjoyed the postings (except for s, 325 for me)

> but that's OK...stuff happens.

>

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Hi Carol and welcome to the list! There are a lot of people here who are

dealing with thyroid diseases, many of whom have decided that treating their

bodies with radioactive anything is not worth the risk or the negative effects.

You may wish to check out:

http://webhome.idirect.com/~wolfnowl/thyroid.htm Read the articles, follow the

links and be informed!

Also check out the information on aspartame - very scary stuff!

Me.

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> I don't know what to do with this. How does it work? How do I talk

> to someone about my symtoms etc w this hyperparathyroidism? Just

> diagnosed with this. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Hi Everyone, my daughter Jenna, who is 6 years old, was diagnosed with

systemic

JRA 5 months ago. After 5 miserable weeks of hospitalization and no answers

they

finally ruled out everything else and could confirm that it was JRA. She has

been on steroid I.V's since then and doing much better. Lately she has been

running a fever at night 100.9's to 102.5's, but only at night. She has been

stiff in the morning, but that eventually goes. She has been doing well in

school, thank god. I was just wondering if anyone could tell me what a flare

up is like? How long it lasts? and

how they treat it. She is still on steroids, I didn't think she could flare

up if she was still getting treatments. I think this is a wonderful place

that we can go to and find out ideas and discuss our children, thank you

again for any info you could give me.

Jeanne

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Jeanne

i think a flare up is what its called after you know they have it

and they seem to get better then it starts over again

if you know anyone who has asthma they know they have it

but they can still have asthma attacks even if they are on treatments

right now i aint sure what to think with melissa 13 years old

shes out of the wheelchair and is walking with no assistance

but still haveing the joint pains and the fatigue

they did a HLA-B27 last week

and today we had to have another CBC sed rate and urine test done

wish i knew the honest truth about JRA but thats why we come to the groups

so we can get answers or talk about it

glad your in the group

Robbin

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Robbin,

Hang in there, sorry to hear about your daughter. We're fortunate not to

have gotten to the point that she is. Sorry that we all have to be in this

group, but it is nice to know we have each other to count on. I appreciate

the info we can get to better understand this awful disease.

Jeanne

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hi claire, what kind of information would you like? if you are wondering

about her first rheumatologist appt, you can expect more xrays of that elbow

and bloodwork. goodluck, brandy

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Hello ,

Welcome. You will be able to learn lots here, about JRA. In fact, maybe

even more than you wanted to know :) I say that because this is probably

the busiest time of year here, as the American College of Rheumatology

has just had their annual conference. Lots of new research has just been

presented and I'm hoping to share much of the news with our list

members. Keep in mind that there are several subsets of JRA and among

each of these, symptoms may range from mild to severe. Don't let the

information worry you. It may not apply in your daughter's case.

I've heard that sometimes a trauma to a joint can 'awaken' as-of-yet

undiagnosed JRA. Perhaps there is some other explanation for her elbow

problems, though? It sounds like her doctors have been thorough about

checking for possiblities. Oftentimes they will not definitively

diagnose JRA until after the symptoms have persisted for quite longer

than the 10 weeks your daughter has been having symptoms. Keep a

positive attitude and let's see what the rheumatologist has to say after

a thorough exam at your upcoming appointment. Is her elbow the only

joint that has been affected thus far?

If you have any questions, feel free to ask. You'll find lots of

knowledgable and helpful people here who are familiar with the things

you'll probably want to know more about.

Take care,

Georgina

claire wrote:

>

> Hi everyone, I jsut like to introduce myself. I am and live in Western

Australia. I have a 16 month old and a 6 year old. My 6 year old has been

diagnosed with juvenile arthritis . She fell off a trampoline about 10 weeks ago

and we thought it could be a break in her elbow. She has had xrays, cat scans

and a MRI to find no break. We have a rheumatologist appointment in 2 weeks .

I really don't know what to expect . I have found a little information but would

love some information please.

> I am so pleased I found this list.

> Thanks,

> :)

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Welcome ,

I do hope your child does not suffer from this disease, but if he does you will

find this place to have alot of information. Most of all, you will know you are

not alone.

First, the disease is hard to diagnose, so most of us spent some time feeling

lost as the Dr's tried many different tests on our children. Then we found the

Dr's did not know much about the disease and could not answer our questions.

This disease is a problem with the immune system. When it occurs the body

attacks the soft tissues causing painful inflammation and ultimately, permanent

damage. In more rare cases it attacks some organs. There are three types of

JRA. Poly Articular (more than one joint affected), Pauci Articular (one joint

affected) and Systemic or 'Stills Disease' (affects many joints and organs).

There is no way to know how long any child will suffer from this. Every case is

different and each treatment is different. There are many different drugs that

can be used, all of which have side affects that often are nearly as bad as the

disease. The Rheumatologist will be your main source of insight and

understanding. He/she will work on finding medicines that will help and

minimize peripheral damage.

Sufferers often have to do special theraputic excercises to minimize long term

damage. Many fully recover and go on to lead a normal life. All we do is hope

that our childs condition goes into remission.

This is my hope if your child does have the disease.

Sincerely,

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Hi everyone, I jsut like to introduce myself. I am and live in Western

Australia. I have a 16 month old and a 6 year old. My 6 year old has been

diagnosed with juvenile arthritis . She fell off a trampoline about 10 weeks ago

and we thought it could be a break in her elbow. She has had xrays, cat scans

and a MRI to find no break. We have a rheumatologist appointment in 2 weeks .

I really don't know what to expect . I have found a little information but would

love some information please.

I am so pleased I found this list.

Thanks,

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Thanks for the welcomes and information - at the moment they have looked at

her elbow but in2 weeks we will know more of what we are to do next etc etc.

They suspect it has been in this joint for a while and the fall inflamed it.

I am learning lots so far after a couple of days on the list.

Thanks, :)

New member

>

>

> Hi everyone, I jsut like to introduce myself. I am and live in

Western Australia. I have a 16 month old and a 6 year old. My 6 year old has

been diagnosed with juvenile arthritis . She fell off a trampoline about 10

weeks ago and we thought it could be a break in her elbow. She has had

xrays, cat scans and a MRI to find no break. We have a rheumatologist

appointment in 2 weeks . I really don't know what to expect . I have found a

little information but would love some information please.

> I am so pleased I found this list.

> Thanks,

> :)

>

>

>

>

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Welcome Sharon

glad you found the group

i dont know what the piere robin thing is could you explain

has JRA Asthma Acidosis constitutional growth delay

scoliosis i sent a survey out to members a 2nd one but theres no response

yet on that one

melissa is also 13 years old we live in atlanta ga

this is a great group just ask and you will get advice

welcome

Robbin

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Pierre Robin Sequence also known as pierre robin syndrome is a birth

condition in which the child has micrognathia (recessed jaw) glossotoposis

(sp) downplaced tongue and a horseshoe shape cleft of the soft palate.

(There are some minor variations as to the shape of and the extent of the

cleft which may also include the hard palate but does not include the lip).

Often there are breathing and feeding issues which vary in severity. Some

are mild and respond to positioning and special nipples others require

trachs and feeding tubes.

My daughter was probably in the middle somewhere, although she still has PRS

issues they are not as intense as they were during her first year of life.

That's the short version :)

Sharon

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In a message dated 11/10/00 8:03:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,

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> Asthma Acidosis

Robbin, what is asthma acidosis??

i sent a survey out to members  a 2nd one but theres no response

yet on that  one

I am not sure i have ever seen the second, the first one came out a few

different times. In fact i almost (but don't yell at me if i am wrong, cause

i have a horrid memory usually) remember when you said the second one was

coming out it was actually the first one. I am sure if you resend it we will

(or atleast a few of us) will respond to it.

AJ

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lolol i forgot to use this> - space

its asthma ---acidosis

acidosis is alot of acid in the blood

and effects the stomach too much acidy foods

this also can slow the growth down

the vitamins get ate up in the blood

they gave her sodium bicarbate really called bakeing soda

for this to help with stomach pain this also helped us

with her eating habits less spicey and scidity foods

Robbin

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> AJ

> lolol i forgot to use this> - space

>

LOL, i was just wondering, as i had never heard of asthma acidosis

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hi new member, i am 23 and was dx'd at 5. in all these years, i have been

dx'd with ulcers, migraines, tietz syndrome(i think thats spelled right),

h.pylori, lifelong kidney stones and chronic kidney infections, and minimal

change disease and nephratic syndrome. the ulcers, migraines, and tietz

syndrome are just unfortunate side effects of life with systemic jra. the

minimal change disease and nephratic syndrome along with the other kidney

probs are probably because of being systemic. brandy ps.i have dealt with

depression at times also.

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hi new member, i am 23 and was dx'd at 5. in all these years, i have been

dx'd with ulcers, migraines, tietz syndrome(i think thats spelled right),

h.pylori, lifelong kidney stones and chronic kidney infections, and minimal

change disease and nephratic syndrome. the ulcers, migraines, and tietz

syndrome are just unfortunate side effects of life with systemic jra. the

minimal change disease and nephratic syndrome along with the other kidney

probs are probably because of being systemic. brandy ps.i have dealt with

depression at times also.

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