Guest guest Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 --- In , " Maxine " <motherswithangels@...> wrote: > > I am curious how many on this board smoke. Thanks for your reply. > You must be kidding right? Most of us can barely breathe as it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 --- uca79iii <uca79iii@...> wrote: > > > > > I am curious how many on this board smoke. Thanks for > your reply. > > > > You must be kidding right? Most of us can barely breathe > as it is. I have seen folks smoke from tracheostomies. They had head/lung/larynx cancer, needing oxygen and sometimes smoked with oxygen on (not cool in the hospital). I had a patient that had his whole left lung removed. The only thing that motivated this guy to get up after surgery was a promised trip to the smoking room. This was back in the mid 80's, when there were smoking rooms for patients who could crawl to get there nic fix. This guy dragged two electronic IV pole gizmos and an old school style chest tube set up to get his smokey treat. The chest tube set up was the kind that had those huge glass jugs. That thing was like moving a small filing cabinet. He was full of lung cancer. Didn't give a sh#t. Had to have a few puffs of his unfilter sticks. Walked backed to the room, and asked for his breathing treatment. (shrug) Almost all my doctors asked how long I've been smoking. Interesting, since I've never smoked EVER. Really, how come your lungs are so bad? (bad karma??? who knows) I don't think smoking excludes one from getting Xolair. My pulmonary doctor says about 50% of his patients with serious lung diseases still smoke. I don't know how he keeps his sanity. So...I wouldn't be shocked if some smoke while on Xolair. Wise? Probably not. Smokey treats were never my vice of choice. I don't understand it, but I do know that the Nic Monkey is one mean beast. Nan-->nebbing as I type...ohhhh...multi-tasking! ****Ordinary life is pretty complex stuff*** -=Harvey Pekar=- ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Never Miss an Email Stay connected with on your mobile. Get started! http://mobile./services?promote=mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 I've often wondered how people could keep smoking after developing lung cancer, or with asthma, or COPD, but then my husband (who has never smoked, but his dad did) reminds me of how hard it is for people to quit smoking. Just look at the ads on TV for gimmicks and even clinics to help people quit--that's a clue as to how hard it is to stop. I never wanted to smoke--no one in my immediate family smoked, although I had two uncles who smoked. One of them died early (from a severe case of tetanus), the other one gave it up and lived to be 91! Soooo--go figure. Everytime I see the pulmonologist she asks me again if I ever smoked--my lungs are very bad, too, but my asthma is kept under control by the med regimen. I am also taking xolair once a month. Bat and Pup <lilbatz@...> wrote: --- uca79iii <uca79iii@...> wrote: > > > > > I am curious how many on this board smoke. Thanks for > your reply. > > > > You must be kidding right? Most of us can barely breathe > as it is. I have seen folks smoke from tracheostomies. They had head/lung/larynx cancer, needing oxygen and sometimes smoked with oxygen on (not cool in the hospital). I had a patient that had his whole left lung removed. The only thing that motivated this guy to get up after surgery was a promised trip to the smoking room. This was back in the mid 80's, when there were smoking rooms for patients who could crawl to get there nic fix. This guy dragged two electronic IV pole gizmos and an old school style chest tube set up to get his smokey treat. The chest tube set up was the kind that had those huge glass jugs. That thing was like moving a small filing cabinet. He was full of lung cancer. Didn't give a sh#t. Had to have a few puffs of his unfilter sticks. Walked backed to the room, and asked for his breathing treatment. (shrug) Almost all my doctors asked how long I've been smoking. Interesting, since I've never smoked EVER. Really, how come your lungs are so bad? (bad karma??? who knows) I don't think smoking excludes one from getting Xolair. My pulmonary doctor says about 50% of his patients with serious lung diseases still smoke. I don't know how he keeps his sanity. So...I wouldn't be shocked if some smoke while on Xolair. Wise? Probably not. Smokey treats were never my vice of choice. I don't understand it, but I do know that the Nic Monkey is one mean beast. Nan-->nebbing as I type...ohhhh...multi-tasking! ****Ordinary life is pretty complex stuff*** -=Harvey Pekar=- __________________________________________________________ Never Miss an Email Stay connected with on your mobile. Get started! http://mobile./services?promote=mail --------------------------------- Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 > > Nan-->nebbing as I type...ohhhh...multi-tasking! > LOL! Nice to know I am not the only one that can Neb and type at the same time... About the smoking.... maybe 10 in total in my whole life -- I just keep thinking of how worse things could be if I was a smoker.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 > > > > Nan-->nebbing as I type...ohhhh...multi-tasking! > > > > LOL! Nice to know I am not the only one that can Neb and type at the > same time... > > About the smoking.... maybe 10 in total in my whole life -- I just > keep thinking of how worse things could be if I was a smoker.... > I neb and type all the time. It passes the time. I use a Pari LP Plus neb cub that I don't have to hold so my typin fangerz iz alwayz avaluble . Now, iffin ah kin gett mu spellin rite. hahahah As for smoking..... I outgrew my astma at age 14. Started smoking and quit at age 27 COLD TURKEY. Yes it CAN be done!!! I can count on one hand how many asthma attacks I had during those 13 years. Three years after I quit smoking, my asthma came back and with a vengance. Ever since 1985, it has been getting gradually worse. Every few years, the doctor would have to add another drug to keep my lungs open. I have seen 5 allergists and 2 Plumo's since 1985. ALL of them tell me that my past smoking is NOT the cause of my persistant asthma. Wierd huh? After being on Xolair for over 3 years, I now only neb once or twice a day. I could use a small hand held inhaler, but can you believe that I am allergic to the propellent? LOL, it makes my asthma worse. I remember going straight from my doctors office after getting my 2 xolair shots to a restraunt to meet my wife for lunch. I had also that very day paid around 400.00 for co payments for 3 month supplies of Xopenex, Atrovent, Pulmicort and Advair. Upon entering the restraunt, I was bombarded with a room full of cigarette smoke. Immediately, my lungs tighened up and I couldn't breathe. I had just nebbed at the doctor's office and couldn't neb again for another 4 hours. I had to tough it out. You ask if I smoke? NO WAY! I couldn't even if I wanted to. Doug Group founder Co-owner-moderator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Interesting that of the 341 members here, only a very few (five) said they did not smoke. Are the others covering up, or not available to reply? Knowing that nicotine is more addictive than heroin, the scientists have now found a part of the brain, the insula, that is the area rewarded in smokers. It just seems strange that more people didn't answer in this topic. Wonder why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 --- In , " Maxine " <motherswithangels@...> wrote: > > Interesting that of the 341 members here, only a very few (five) said > they did not smoke. Are the others covering up, or not available to > reply? Knowing that nicotine is more addictive than heroin, the > scientists have now found a part of the brain, the insula, that is the > area rewarded in smokers. It just seems strange that more people didn't > answer in this topic. Wonder why. > Unfortunately, not everyone participates in the discussions. If I was a smoker, I wouldn't have answered. After over 3 years of having this board not once has anyone mentioned asthmatics who are this bad continuing to smoke. These group members are struggling just to breathe as it is. Yes, I have seen people with terrible respitory problems continue to smoke. I personally QUIT cold turkey BEFORE my asthma came back. (read my former post) Yes, quiting CAN BE DONE. I am a living BREATHING example. Doug Group founder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Hi, I'll bet people did not respond because they don't smoke. Your question was how many people smoke, not how many don't smoke. So your question tend to eliminate a response from non-smokers. Have you read any of our back posts? Are you aware this is a group for people who have moderate to severe allergic asthma? We might have a few people who used to smoke, but I doubt we have more than five in this group who still smoke. Addy Group co-owner --- In , " Maxine " <motherswithangels@...> wrote: > > Interesting that of the 341 members here, only a very few (five) said > they did not smoke. Are the others covering up, or not available to > reply? Knowing that nicotine is more addictive than heroin, the > scientists have now found a part of the brain, the insula, that is the > area rewarded in smokers. It just seems strange that more people didn't > answer in this topic. Wonder why. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 I didn't reply because I tried several different responses and they just kept getting nastier and nastier. No, I don't smoke. I never have. And to be asked in this group if I smoke, while I am doing everything I can just to live was galling beyond belief. Who are you that you expect that out of a group of over 340 people, some number owes you a response? Who are you to make implications? I signed up with this group in hopes of getting more information about my last chance. I am now living on shots of Epinephrine. Asthma has become my whole life. I did not sign up with this group to participate in mandatory surveys or provide you with information. Did you have something to share about Xolair? Can you tell me how to speed up the approval process? Can you give me advice on how to keep going until then? No? Well that's what I'm here for. Hannah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Maybe the biggest surprise is to have never smoked and to still have lung damage equal to someone who has smoked and maybe that is why only those of us who never smoked, or who quit smoking are the ones who answered. Although I can't imagine someone with asthma still smoking since most of us choke just at the hint of someone else's smoke. Just a thought. uca79iii <uca79iii@...> wrote: --- In , " Maxine " <motherswithangels@...> wrote: > > Interesting that of the 341 members here, only a very few (five) said > they did not smoke. Are the others covering up, or not available to > reply? Knowing that nicotine is more addictive than heroin, the > scientists have now found a part of the brain, the insula, that is the > area rewarded in smokers. It just seems strange that more people didn't > answer in this topic. Wonder why. > Unfortunately, not everyone participates in the discussions. If I was a smoker, I wouldn't have answered. After over 3 years of having this board not once has anyone mentioned asthmatics who are this bad continuing to smoke. These group members are struggling just to breathe as it is. Yes, I have seen people with terrible respitory problems continue to smoke. I personally QUIT cold turkey BEFORE my asthma came back. (read my former post) Yes, quiting CAN BE DONE. I am a living BREATHING example. Doug Group founder --------------------------------- Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 I also wanted to say " yes! " to what Doug said about most of these members just struggling to breathe----Reading about the problems that so many of this group have, I feel very blessed that my asthma is under pretty good control and I am certain the xolair is going to help even more--I think it already has. uca79iii <uca79iii@...> wrote: --- In , " Maxine " <motherswithangels@...> wrote: > > Interesting that of the 341 members here, only a very few (five) said > they did not smoke. Are the others covering up, or not available to > reply? Knowing that nicotine is more addictive than heroin, the > scientists have now found a part of the brain, the insula, that is the > area rewarded in smokers. It just seems strange that more people didn't > answer in this topic. Wonder why. > Unfortunately, not everyone participates in the discussions. If I was a smoker, I wouldn't have answered. After over 3 years of having this board not once has anyone mentioned asthmatics who are this bad continuing to smoke. These group members are struggling just to breathe as it is. Yes, I have seen people with terrible respitory problems continue to smoke. I personally QUIT cold turkey BEFORE my asthma came back. (read my former post) Yes, quiting CAN BE DONE. I am a living BREATHING example. Doug Group founder --------------------------------- Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 --- In , " Maxine " <motherswithangels@...> wrote: > > Interesting that of the 341 members here, only a very few (five) said > they did not smoke. Are the others covering up, or not available to > reply? Knowing that nicotine is more addictive than heroin, the > scientists have now found a part of the brain, the insula, that is the > area rewarded in smokers. It just seems strange that more people didn't > answer in this topic. Wonder why. > Put me on the list that DO NOT smoke. My parents did, even after my drs. told them it could worsen MY asthma. I can't stand anything associated with it. My lungs have been messed up enough as it is; why would I do that to myself or my family Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Personally, I don't think it is anybody's business. If someone wants to answer they will. Sharon who has smoked in the past. GoGo away, before I drop a house on you!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 I do not smoke either, my paternal Grandmother died of a smoking- related illness, and she is the reason that I have asthma. I am so allergic to nicotene as a matter of fact, that my prior allergist said that I would most likely go into anaphylactic shock if I ever attempted to smoke. My lungs like to be rebels as it is (I have to keep them in line by doing Atrovent nebs every 3 hours, I can't use Xopenex/Albuterol anymore because it makes me even tighter, pred 15mg every other day which is down from 60mg three times a day, pulmicort 600mcg twice daily, singulair, spiriva (to let me sleep a little), astelin, atrovent nasal, pseudovent (generic form of Entex), prevacid (for the reflux from the pred), atarax, zyrtec, xolair and usually an antibiotic too), I do not want to give them another reason to act up. - Meagan (who's 20 years old and just got back from getting Xolair, despite which, my Dr. just listened to me and says she's out of ideas, I'm probably reacting to the cold-air but if I don't start feeling better soon I'll have to call my pulmo b/c this shouldn't be happening) > > > > Interesting that of the 341 members here, only a very few (five) > said > > they did not smoke. Are the others covering up, or not available to > > reply? Knowing that nicotine is more addictive than heroin, the > > scientists have now found a part of the brain, the insula, that is > the > > area rewarded in smokers. It just seems strange that more people > didn't > > answer in this topic. Wonder why. > > > > Put me on the list that DO NOT smoke. My parents did, even after my > drs. told them it could worsen MY asthma. I can't stand anything > associated with it. My lungs have been messed up enough as it is; why > would I do that to myself or my family > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Oh I forgot I'm also on 700mg of Theophylline/day, so the fact that I have to take so much medicine daily and I am a non-smoker - I can only imagine how much more I'd have to take if I smoked. I just don't think smoking is worth it for me. - Meagan > > > > Interesting that of the 341 members here, only a very few (five) > said > > they did not smoke. Are the others covering up, or not available to > > reply? Knowing that nicotine is more addictive than heroin, the > > scientists have now found a part of the brain, the insula, that is > the > > area rewarded in smokers. It just seems strange that more people > didn't > > answer in this topic. Wonder why. > > > > Put me on the list that DO NOT smoke. My parents did, even after my > drs. told them it could worsen MY asthma. I can't stand anything > associated with it. My lungs have been messed up enough as it is; why > would I do that to myself or my family > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Sharon, you crack me up. Can I take the red shoes with me? Addy > > Personally, I don't think it is anybody's business. If someone wants to > answer they will. Sharon who has smoked in the past. > > GoGo away, before I drop a house on you!!!! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2007 Report Share Posted February 2, 2007 Hi, I am in or on the same thought wave as Addy. I do not smoke so I would not answer the question. I have not smoked but have friends who do and ask them not to when I am around. I have enough problem breathing with out that habit. Sr. Volz, C.R. pyle456 <coachmac@...> wrote: Hi, I'll bet people did not respond because they don't smoke. Your question was how many people smoke, not how many don't smoke. So your question tend to eliminate a response from non-smokers. Have you read any of our back posts? Are you aware this is a group for people who have moderate to severe allergic asthma? We might have a few people who used to smoke, but I doubt we have more than five in this group who still smoke. Addy Group co-owner --- In , " Maxine " <motherswithangels@...> wrote: > > Interesting that of the 341 members here, only a very few (five) said > they did not smoke. Are the others covering up, or not available to > reply? Knowing that nicotine is more addictive than heroin, the > scientists have now found a part of the brain, the insula, that is the > area rewarded in smokers. It just seems strange that more people didn't > answer in this topic. Wonder why. > --------------------------------- TV dinner still cooling? Check out " Tonight's Picks " on TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Never ever can't stand the sight or smell of them. psychoratzilla@... wrote: Personally, I don't think it is anybody's business. If someone wants to answer they will. Sharon who has smoked in the past. GoGo away, before I drop a house on you!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 The thing about smoking always sets me off !!! Like you, I've never smoked anything of any kind at any time in my entire life. My parents did not smoke and my husband does not smoke yet I've got lung disease. I was infuriated with the pulmo doc who asked me at least 4 times if I had ever smoked. (Is there some old Native American thing about being asked a question 4 times - north, east, south, and west and if the answer is the same every time it's true?) On a subsequent visit he asked if I had been able to cut back on smoking any. I did not view the comment as funny and let him know very loudly AGAIN - never smoked anything in my life. The bottom line is, they're helpless in treating the disease and it's an affront to their last vestiges (sp?) of power. The wife of the man who played Superman (Reese?) died from lung cancer in her forties yet I've heard she never smoked. Have heard the same from others. It might be unusual but it does happen. Thankfully, I don't have the big Ca though. I do have allergic bronchopulmonary aspergillosis and asthma and copd. Still waiting for SPOC to get their act together and call the insurance for approval ....... > > > > > > I am curious how many on this board smoke. Thanks for > > your reply. > > > > > > > You must be kidding right? Most of us can barely breathe > > as it is. > > I have seen folks smoke from tracheostomies. They had > head/lung/larynx cancer, needing oxygen and sometimes > smoked with oxygen on (not cool in the hospital). > > I had a patient that had his whole left lung removed. The > only thing that motivated this guy to get up after surgery > was a promised trip to the smoking room. This was back in > the mid 80's, when there were smoking rooms for patients > who could crawl to get there nic fix. > > This guy dragged two electronic IV pole gizmos and an old > school style chest tube set up to get his smokey treat. > The chest tube set up was the kind that had those huge > glass jugs. That thing was like moving a small filing > cabinet. > He was full of lung cancer. Didn't give a sh#t. Had to > have a few puffs of his unfilter sticks. Walked backed to > the room, and asked for his breathing treatment. (shrug) > > Almost all my doctors asked how long I've been smoking. > Interesting, since I've never smoked EVER. Really, how > come your lungs are so bad? (bad karma??? who knows) > > I don't think smoking excludes one from getting Xolair. My > pulmonary doctor says about 50% of his patients with > serious lung diseases still smoke. I don't know how he > keeps his sanity. > > So...I wouldn't be shocked if some smoke while on Xolair. > Wise? Probably not. Smokey treats were never my vice of > choice. I don't understand it, but I do know that the Nic > Monkey is one mean beast. > > Nan-->nebbing as I type...ohhhh...multi-tasking! > > > > > > > > ****Ordinary life is pretty complex stuff*** > -=Harvey Pekar=- > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Never Miss an Email > Stay connected with on your mobile. Get started! > http://mobile./services?promote=mail > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 I never have smoked, my parents never did smoke. My mom died of Pulmonary MAC and bronchiectasis, her parents never smoked; but everyone would say her lungs looked like a 2 pack a day smoker. Asthma was a small component of her lung condition, and her asthma was intrinsic asthma so don't know if the Zolair would have helped if it were available. Debbie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 I never really post they are figuring houth ow to give me xolair latex free right now. A sthat is why I was having trouble with it. Entirley huge story to go into. ANyhow I do not smoke and never did. Yes it is making me mad that you are stating that just because you do nto reply it means you smoke. Yes I am make on predisone and am evil. karin ----- Original Message ----- From: asperqu Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 12:38 PM Subject: [ ] Re: How many smoke? > > Interesting that of the 341 members here, only a very few (five) said > they did not smoke. Are the others covering up, or not available to > reply? Knowing that nicotine is more addictive than heroin, the > scientists have now found a part of the brain, the insula, that is the > area rewarded in smokers. It just seems strange that more people didn't > answer in this topic. Wonder why. > Put me on the list that DO NOT smoke. My parents did, even after my drs. told them it could worsen MY asthma. I can't stand anything associated with it. My lungs have been messed up enough as it is; why would I do that to myself or my family Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 What's the latex part of Xolair??? Is it the rubbery stuff on the top of the vials??? Addy > > > > Interesting that of the 341 members here, only a very few (five) > said > > they did not smoke. Are the others covering up, or not available to > > reply? Knowing that nicotine is more addictive than heroin, the > > scientists have now found a part of the brain, the insula, that is > the > > area rewarded in smokers. It just seems strange that more people > didn't > > answer in this topic. Wonder why. > > > > Put me on the list that DO NOT smoke. My parents did, even after my > drs. told them it could worsen MY asthma. I can't stand anything > associated with it. My lungs have been messed up enough as it is; why > would I do that to myself or my family > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Addy, Yes and in the manufacturing they believe it is in contact. Karin ----- Original Message ----- From: pyle456 Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 3:18 PM Subject: [ ] Re: How many smoke? What's the latex part of Xolair??? Is it the rubbery stuff on the top of the vials??? Addy > > > > Interesting that of the 341 members here, only a very few (five) > said > > they did not smoke. Are the others covering up, or not available to > > reply? Knowing that nicotine is more addictive than heroin, the > > scientists have now found a part of the brain, the insula, that is > the > > area rewarded in smokers. It just seems strange that more people > didn't > > answer in this topic. Wonder why. > > > > Put me on the list that DO NOT smoke. My parents did, even after my > drs. told them it could worsen MY asthma. I can't stand anything > associated with it. My lungs have been messed up enough as it is; why > would I do that to myself or my family > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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