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Isao, I do not feel pushed by the recent discussions of soy ferments and

cultures, I find them very interesting particularly since I have never tried to

make any. You have made some fine contributions and I look forward to you

posting the natto protocol. The only one I have is in the old " Book of Tofu " .

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Well,,,

I do not mean to push so called " hellish pungent " natto to everyone.

I am not a TV program producer to make funny experiment on first timer

with the challenge on stinky natto.

Of coarse I am not making any living from natto.

I would only hope that you can receive some good benefit from

natto,which I and my family and friends around me benefit.

Since this is the results from microbial reaction on food,we may miss

something in the process.

So,,,it maybe benefitial for all of us to review making natto protocol.

I hope in a few days,I would upload natto making protocol that each of

member here can try on. I do not know if I can upload fool proof method

but this should be something to restart with.

So bless me ,god.

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Hi everyone,

I don't see what the big hubbub is over natto... it's a little odd,

but for anyone willing to down a stinky cheese or an aged kefir I

don't think it'd be a problem. I ate a lot of natto in Japan (in

omelettes, etc) and can't see what's so repulsive about it. It's

pretty tame, really, next to a nice ripe French cheese or a stinky

batch of kimchi.

I haven't posted much, but as a long time lurker I have to say that

your input has been enjoyable, Isao. It's nice to have a Japanese

voice who can educate us westerners about the rich tradition of

fermentation in Japan. I'm looking forward to your natto protocol.

Thanks!

On 3/9/06, Isao Haraguchi <dw1@...> wrote:

> Well,,,

> I do not mean to push so called " hellish pungent " natto to everyone.

> I am not a TV program producer to make funny experiment on first timer

> with the challenge on stinky natto.

> Of coarse I am not making any living from natto.

>

> I would only hope that you can receive some good benefit from

> natto,which I and my family and friends around me benefit.

> Since this is the results from microbial reaction on food,we may miss

> something in the process.

>

> So,,,it maybe benefitial for all of us to review making natto protocol.

> I hope in a few days,I would upload natto making protocol that each of

> member here can try on. I do not know if I can upload fool proof method

> but this should be something to restart with.

>

> So bless me ,god.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> I haven't posted much, but as a long time lurker I have to say that

> your input has been enjoyable, Isao. It's nice to have a Japanese

> voice who can educate us westerners about the rich tradition of

> fermentation in Japan. I'm looking forward to your natto protocol.

> Thanks!

>

>

Ditto here! I haven't said much because I don't have

any natto currently to try out. But I DO like the idea,

esp. as it encourages Vit K (which I need!). I didn't

like the texture when I tried it last (they carry it

at a store near here), but your ideas have got me

encouraged! So I'm going to buy some and experiment!

-- Heidi

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On 3/9/06, Heidi <heidis@...> wrote:

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>

> > I haven't posted much, but as a long time lurker I have to say that

> > your input has been enjoyable, Isao. It's nice to have a Japanese

> > voice who can educate us westerners about the rich tradition of

> > fermentation in Japan. I'm looking forward to your natto protocol.

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

>

> Ditto here! I haven't said much because I don't have

> any natto currently to try out. But I DO like the idea,

> esp. as it encourages Vit K (which I need!). I didn't

> like the texture when I tried it last (they carry it

> at a store near here), but your ideas have got me

> encouraged! So I'm going to buy some and experiment!

>

> -- Heidi

Hi,

As odd as it sounds at first, I felt that natto in an omelette made

perfect sense. The taste of the natto went well with the eggs. It

may also have subdued the texture a bit... :)

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That's funny you should mention this today , because I was just pondering

this morning if natto would work well in scrambled eggs because it seems to me

that I scrambled okra with eggs one time and a lot of the " slime " went away.

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Response below:

On 3/9/06, Heidi <heidis@...> wrote:

>

>

> > I haven't posted much, but as a long time lurker I have to say that

> > your input has been enjoyable, Isao. It's nice to have a Japanese

> > voice who can educate us westerners about the rich tradition of

> > fermentation in Japan. I'm looking forward to your natto protocol.

> > Thanks!

> >

> >

>

> Ditto here! I haven't said much because I don't have

> any natto currently to try out. But I DO like the idea,

> esp. as it encourages Vit K (which I need!). I didn't

> like the texture when I tried it last (they carry it

> at a store near here), but your ideas have got me

> encouraged! So I'm going to buy some and experiment!

>

> -- Heidi

Hi,

As odd as it sounds at first, I felt that natto in an omelette made

perfect sense. The taste of the natto went well with the eggs. It

may also have subdued the texture a bit... :)

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seaorca@... wrote:

> That's funny you should mention this today , because I was just

> pondering this morning if natto would work well in scrambled eggs

> because it seems to me that I scrambled okra with eggs one time and a

> lot of the " slime " went away.

>

>

Adding something pungent to eggs has

a long and honorable precedent .. people add onions

and melted cheese to eggs, eat horseradish on boiled

eggs. Eggs NEED something pungent!

Sliminess is pretty easy to get rid of. My kefiili

has these long strings. But if you run it thru the

blender, it turns into milk-consistency again.

Anything that breaks up the long polysaccharide chains.

-- Heidi

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