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Hi, all.

My housemate is undergoing treatment for chronic lyme disease. She's

on a long-term regimen of two antibiotics (from her MD) and many, many

herbs and supplements (from her naturopath). Her naturopath also

recommended frequent use of probiotics, so it's lucky she lives with

me! She's been eating live yogurt and cottage cheese, kombucha,

sauerkraut, and beet kvass. I'm thinking she should also be eating

miso. Does anyone have any other thoughts?

Also at the recommendation of her naturopath, she's trying to stick to

the diet outlined in Nourishing Traditions. I was going to make her

some cornbread, but I wasn't sure about my lime water. Instead of

draining it after letting it soak overnight, I have abandoned it for

months. It doesn't smell bad or look like anything's growing in it,

but I wonder whether it could be too much saturated with lime?

Thanks for your ideas,

Kyla

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I have used Mexican Mesa for cornbread with lime. It has already

been soaked in the lime for me...and works well. But I did make a

cornbread type sourdough with Keifer....so you could ostentatiously,

just mix up your batter with that and leave it out over nite and bake it.

just my two cents

Ronni

>

> Hi, all.

>

> My housemate is undergoing treatment for chronic lyme disease. She's

> on a long-term regimen of two antibiotics (from her MD) and many, many

> herbs and supplements (from her naturopath). Her naturopath also

> recommended frequent use of probiotics, so it's lucky she lives with

> me! She's been eating live yogurt and cottage cheese, kombucha,

> sauerkraut, and beet kvass. I'm thinking she should also be eating

> miso. Does anyone have any other thoughts?

>

> Also at the recommendation of her naturopath, she's trying to stick to

> the diet outlined in Nourishing Traditions. I was going to make her

> some cornbread, but I wasn't sure about my lime water. Instead of

> draining it after letting it soak overnight, I have abandoned it for

> months. It doesn't smell bad or look like anything's growing in it,

> but I wonder whether it could be too much saturated with lime?

>

> Thanks for your ideas,

> Kyla

>

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ronnimike wrote:

> I have used Mexican Mesa for cornbread with lime. It has already

>been soaked in the lime for me...and works well. But I did make a

>cornbread type sourdough with Keifer....so you could ostentatiously,

>just mix up your batter with that and leave it out over nite and bake it.

Perhaps you mean masa? i.e. masa harina. I use masa (brand: masa lista)

to make tortilla, but not nearly often enough :)

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Ross McKay, Toronto, NSW Australia

" Nobody ever rioted for austerity " - Monbiot

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I use masa for breading fish and chicken too. I like the nutty

flavor. Plus it's really easy to find. But I do keep it in

the freezer. My biggest mistake in the past was keeping

it on the shelf. It tastes pretty awful if kept at room temp.

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:33 AM, Ross McKay <rosko@...> wrote:

> ronnimike wrote:

>

>> I have used Mexican Mesa for cornbread with lime. It has already

>>been soaked in the lime for me...and works well. But I did make a

>>cornbread type sourdough with Keifer....so you could ostentatiously,

>>just mix up your batter with that and leave it out over nite and bake it.

>

> Perhaps you mean masa? i.e. masa harina. I use masa (brand: masa lista)

> to make tortilla, but not nearly often enough :)

> --

> Ross McKay, Toronto, NSW Australia

> " Nobody ever rioted for austerity " - Monbiot

>

> ------------------------------------

>

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I don't make a batter. We've been experimenting

for a long time, because fried fish is like, one of the

things that makes life worthwhile. But I'm really picky.

We wet the fish. Roll it in flour (any flour: the masa works fine).

Then dip it in a mix of egg white+oil

Then roll it in flour again.

Let it set for 30 minutes. It can go in the fridge at this point

for later. Or frozen maybe.

Then fry it in oil that is just the right temp.

I did a mess of smelt this way, then froze them after

frying. To heat them up I put them in the toaster

oven. They come out ultra-crispy and it makes a great

quick snack.

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Ross McKay <rosko@...> wrote:

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Hello,Kayla

Fortunately,the lyme disease is not popular in Japan.

But if it is a problem with me,I would try these.

Ofcause,we have some flee and rice hazards.

To maintain physical balance, I would keep taking UMEBOSHI as physical

balancer as probiotics/antibiotics. It is salt and mint pickled UME

plum,salty and very sour stuff. It contains V17,sianoid saccarides as a

ingredient,a mean toxine against the parasites,cancer,mold,fungi,bugs...

I take with green tea adjusting saltiness and sourness.

It is refreshing moment as well as awaikening the nerve.

I use a nut cracker to break the seed also and eat the core as well.

It is light taste. Yet it still contains high amount of V17,I think.

It is free V17 you do not have to buy additionally.

Miso and its menu will help daily conditioning as well as nutrition.

The weed called Yomogi will help,I think,also.

Yomogi leaf is used as moxing. You can make powder,leaf tea, juices.

This is a dewormer,skin conditioner,itch calmer,blood cleanser.

I think it works as cancer fighter,VD curer (duh),It should work on

spirohette.

Also, natural salpher hot spring bathing will work well,too.

Hope this helps,

isao

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Isao wrote: It contains V17,sianoid saccarides as a

> ingredient,a mean toxine against the parasites,cancer,mold,fungi,bugs...

> I use a nut cracker to break the seed also and eat the core as well.

> It is light taste. Yet it still contains high amount of V17,I think.

> It is free V17 you do not have to buy additionally.

V17 is also known as laetrile, which has not been proven to provide

anything but cyanide poisoning. See this extensive article about it:

www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/laetrile.html

It may be toxic against bugs and illness, but also against people!

Stay well,

Nance

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If quack watch is against it - it must be good stuff!

From: nutrition

[mailto:nutrition ] On Behalf Of nan4cl

Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 3:43 PM

nutrition

Subject: Re: Probiotics/Antibiotics

Isao wrote: It contains V17,sianoid saccarides as a

> ingredient,a mean toxine against the parasites,cancer,mold,fungi,bugs...

> I use a nut cracker to break the seed also and eat the core as well.

> It is light taste. Yet it still contains high amount of V17,I think.

> It is free V17 you do not have to buy additionally.

V17 is also known as laetrile, which has not been proven to provide

anything but cyanide poisoning. See this extensive article about it:

www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/laetrile.html

It may be toxic against bugs and illness, but also against people!

Stay well,

Nance

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You agree with Chairman Mao. " My enemy's enemy is my friend " ?

Unfortunately the more I have found out about Mao the less I like him.

The Quackwatch is extremely interesting and very detailed. Thank you for

posting it.

Sally

Kathy Dickson wrote:

> If quack watch is against it - it must be good stuff!

>

>

>

> From: nutrition

> [mailto:nutrition ] On Behalf Of nan4cl

> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 3:43 PM

> nutrition

> Subject: Re: Probiotics/Antibiotics

>

>

>

> Isao wrote: It contains V17,sianoid saccarides as a

>

>> ingredient,a mean toxine against the parasites,cancer,mold,fungi,bugs...

>> I use a nut cracker to break the seed also and eat the core as well.

>> It is light taste. Yet it still contains high amount of V17,I think.

>> It is free V17 you do not have to buy additionally.

>>

>

> V17 is also known as laetrile, which has not been proven to provide

> anything but cyanide poisoning. See this extensive article about it:

>

> www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/laetrile.html

>

> It may be toxic against bugs and illness, but also against people!

>

> Stay well,

> Nance

>

>

>

>

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Quackwatch may be good for a lot of things. However, natural

medicine is not necessarily on of them. A better source of cancer

info is www.cancertutor.com. Like another poster stated,

conventional treatment is very iffy prospect. It has a poor tract

record by any measurement except maybe by baseball batting averages.

In other words, a batter batting .300 is doing very well.

GB

It contains V17,sianoid saccarides as a

> > ingredient,a mean toxine against the

parasites,cancer,mold,fungi,bugs...

> > I use a nut cracker to break the seed also and eat the core as

well.

> > It is light taste. Yet it still contains high amount of V17,I

think.

> > It is free V17 you do not have to buy additionally.

>

>

> V17 is also known as laetrile, which has not been proven to provide

> anything but cyanide poisoning. See this extensive article about

it:

>

> www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/laetrile.html

>

> It may be toxic against bugs and illness, but also against people!

>

> Stay well,

> Nance

>

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This site offers a slightly different perspective and shows an approx 50%

overall cure rate for allopathy and a much poorer rate for alternatives.

http://members.bordernet.com.au/~pmoran/index.htm

Re: Probiotics/Antibiotics

Quackwatch may be good for a lot of things. However, natural

medicine is not necessarily on of them. A better source of cancer

info is www.cancertutor.com. Like another poster stated,

conventional treatment is very iffy prospect. It has a poor tract

record by any measurement except maybe by baseball batting averages.

In other words, a batter batting .300 is doing very well.

GB

It contains V17,sianoid saccarides as a

> > ingredient,a mean toxine against the

parasites,cancer,mold,fungi,bugs...

> > I use a nut cracker to break the seed also and eat the core as

well.

> > It is light taste. Yet it still contains high amount of V17,I

think.

> > It is free V17 you do not have to buy additionally.

>

>

> V17 is also known as laetrile, which has not been proven to provide

> anything but cyanide poisoning. See this extensive article about

it:

>

> www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/laetrile.html

>

> It may be toxic against bugs and illness, but also against people!

>

> Stay well,

> Nance

>

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If unconditional friendship or love can exist,

I would probably send him what I have the best I know...

It does not matter to me if he ignores out of doubt or anything.

I am not only doing for him,it is for me mainly.

V17 is not the proper description, but it is easy for me to make

people understand.

The amygdalin in Umeboshi is completely safe to me.

The green unripen Ume plum cause stong diarrea. So this is NEVER.

But if the ume plum is ripened and salted well enough and sun rayed

and combined with shiso well,it seems to have some property for

maitaining pillar of health.

Whatever such site is claiming, their message can not reach me to

stop.

My opinion, my expression of experience in response to inquiry should

not be intruded. Even it is offended, I am already OK.

This is not medical info but as a pop corn joke ,it canbe fun to use

cell phone dialing on top of swallen part of skin. ;-D

take care,

isao

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Hi Isao,

Your use of English comes across as very poetic with much depth to it :-)

Perhaps your body has become used to the laetrile so that you are not

bothered by its harmful effects, or perhaps it is your treatment of the

ripened plum seed that makes it more healthy :-)

I don't understand your joke about the cell phone. Is it because heat is

produced which helps with the swelling? I don't have a cell phone, so I

don't know what happens when dialling.

and the K9's

-----

> If unconditional friendship or love can exist,

> I would probably send him what I have the best I know...

> It does not matter to me if he ignores out of doubt or anything.

> I am not only doing for him,it is for me mainly.

> This is not medical info but as a pop corn joke ,it canbe fun to use

> cell phone dialing on top of swallen part of skin. ;-D

> take care,

> isao

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