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Connie Hampton wrote:

>I loved browsing through the Wiki Cookbook Flatbreads - the rice

>ones with coconut cream! A street food I could eat!

Appam? Very tasty, we make it with desiccated coconut and it goes very

nicely with spicy dishes like curries and chili beans. We don't add

cooked rice - I think that bit is wrong, probably meant to be " boiled

rice " which is a variety of rice (not actually boiled!) I'll have to fix

it up sometime. It's a bit of a bugger to make in a cast iron pan; am

looking forward to trying it on a tava, but suspect it will be just as

sticky / difficult to handle.

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Would it be OK to use rice and gram flours? This grinding idea is the

one that flummoxes me too

Sally

artistmama wrote:

> I am very interested in trying this Dosa. I have checked out several

> recipes online, and they all say to " grind the beans and rice into a

> smooth paste " after soaking in water for several hours.

>

> I have a few questions:

>

> 1) What method do you use to grind the beans and rice after it has

> soaked? I can't think of a way to do it unless I just put it in the

> Vitamix or Food Processor.

>

> 2) If put in the food processor, I don't think the grind would be

> quite smooth enough. Am I correct?

>

> 3) If I use the Vitamix, I would have to add water, I think. Would

> this make the batter too liquidy?

>

> 4) I have a grain grinder, so was wondering if I could grind the dried

> beans and rice first into a powder before fermenting?

>

>

>

>

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I use my immersion stick blender to blend the rice and beans - it works very

well for this. If there are big chucks left, one could let them soak a bit

longer in the batter and blend again just before making the dosas.

I've also used rice and bean flours - this is more expensive since you have

to pay for the grinding, but it works pretty well.

One can ferment or not as you see fit. I like them sour, but my partner

prefers the " sweeter " version that is not fermented as long.

Connie

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Subject: Re: Re: Dosa again

Would it be OK to use rice and gram flours? This grinding idea is the

one that flummoxes me too

Sally

artistmama wrote:

> I am very interested in trying this Dosa. I have checked out several

> recipes online, and they all say to " grind the beans and rice into a

> smooth paste " after soaking in water for several hours.

>

> I have a few questions:

>

> 1) What method do you use to grind the beans and rice after it has

> soaked? I can't think of a way to do it unless I just put it in the

> Vitamix or Food Processor.

>

> 2) If put in the food processor, I don't think the grind would be

> quite smooth enough. Am I correct?

>

> 3) If I use the Vitamix, I would have to add water, I think. Would

> this make the batter too liquidy?

>

> 4) I have a grain grinder, so was wondering if I could grind the dried

> beans and rice first into a powder before fermenting?

>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

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G'day ,

>I am very interested in trying this Dosa. I have checked out several

>recipes online, and they all say to " grind the beans and rice into a

>smooth paste " after soaking in water for several hours.

>

>I have a few questions:

>

>1) What method do you use to grind the beans and rice after it has

>soaked? I can't think of a way to do it unless I just put it in the

>Vitamix or Food Processor.

I use a blender (maybe that's your Vitamix?) and it makes a good paste

from it. I blend each part separately, and add just enough water to

blend well. Here's my quantities:

* 1 cup beans (½ urad dal, ½ fava beans - recipe is 1 cup urad dal)

* 1½ cups rice

* both soaked well in plenty of water, which is discarded afterwards

* grind beans in 1 cup fresh water, perhaps a splash more

* grind rice in 1 cup fresh water, no more

The beans make a stiff paste, some of which you'll need to use a spatula

on to get out of the blender. The rice makes a runny batter, and cleans

the rest of the beans out of the blender.

>[...]

>4) I have a grain grinder, so was wondering if I could grind the dried

>beans and rice first into a powder before fermenting?

Soaking the beans changes their flavour a little, and increases their

nutritional value. I've tried using flour instead of soaked beans and it

just isn't the same, although still nice - something is lost.

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Ross McKay, Toronto, NSW Australia

The planet is in a pickle, but fermenting will help save us

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G'day Sally,

>Would it be OK to use rice and gram flours? This grinding idea is the

>one that flummoxes me too

You can indeed use flours, but the flavour isn't quite the same. Soaking

beans triggers some flavour changes and increases the nutritional value.

If I only had access to flours, I'd use them, but because I have access

to dal and brown rice, I go with the soaking / grinding routine. The

result is much nicer.

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Ross McKay, Toronto, NSW Australia

The planet is in a pickle, but fermenting will help save us

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Plus the whole grains are a lot cheaper. I use my mixer to grind

them (Blendtec, but the vitamix would work too). Sometimes I

add too much water and it *is* too soupy, so I add some flour

to thicken it.

I suspect in the old days they used a rock mortar and pestle,

as is done for masa. For masa, you soak the corn in lime water,

then grind it with rocks into a paste. That's pretty much the

normal way to make " dough " ... you can grind the dry grains

too, but it's understandably a whole lot more work, plus the

flour flies up in the air etc. And once you make whole grain

flour, it goes bad rather quickly.

I really want a rock grinder! They sell them pretty cheaply

at the Mexican store, but I have never gotten around to getting one.

On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Ross McKay <rosko@...> wrote:

> G'day Sally,

>

> You can indeed use flours, but the flavour isn't quite the same. Soaking

> beans triggers some flavour changes and increases the nutritional value.

> If I only had access to flours, I'd use them, but because I have access

> to dal and brown rice, I go with the soaking / grinding routine. The

> result is much nicer.

>

> --

> Ross McKay, Toronto, NSW Australia

> The planet is in a pickle, but fermenting will help save us

>

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