Guest guest Posted May 31, 2001 Report Share Posted May 31, 2001 Ear Ache >This is only a temporary fix and you should >still see your Dr. for an anti-biotic. NO! Not all ear aches are bacterial, and most if not all, can be treated without antibiotics. My DD used to get earaches all the time , when I finally wized up and stopped conventionaly treating them, she stopped having them. Because I let her body learn to fight them. Why are so many people these days in such a big hurry to run to the Dr's and let them wave their expensive, damaging, magic wand????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2001 Report Share Posted May 31, 2001 Zoonana, I gotta agree with ya there! My youngin has been helped immensely with very gentle chiro adjustments. About a week or 2 ago, her ears were flaring up again and it looked like it was time to call the chiro again. But instead of calling, I started adding several milligrams of powdered Vitamin C to her solids. I don't know how much Vitamin Cure because I just opened a capsule and poured some in, usually twice a day. Anyway, I noticed pretty quickly that she had stopped grabbing at her ears. Kathleen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2001 Report Share Posted May 31, 2001 Do not do antibiotics!!!! >From: " Lady Lumbee " <ladylumbee@...> >Reply-Vaccinations ><Vaccinations >, <BF-Cult >, " The Wick >Family " <wicksnw@...>, <sisterscovering@...>, ><simplehmstd >, " sheila vives " <childlove@...>, " Nikki > " <nikki@...>, <herbsnmore@...>, " Ellan > " <mariellan@...>, <Large_Families >, " FCL " ><FrugalChristianLadies >, ><crunchyearthmommies >, <cofwomen@...> >Subject: Ear Ache >Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 05:30:09 -0500 > >This ear treatment will give relief when your child wakes up in the middle >of the night complaining that his ear hurts. To give it you should warm it >by running hot water over the bottle. Drop 2-3 drops in the ear every 15 >min. until relief is obtained. This is only a temporary fix and you should >still see your Dr. for an anti-biotic. > > > 3 cloves garlic > ½ medium sized onion > ¾ c. mullein c/s > 1 c. yarrow c/s > ¼ c. white willow bark c/s > cold pressed virgin olive oil > >Chop garlic and onion into small pieces and put everything into a 1 quart >jar. Allow to sit in a sunny window for two weeks, shaking 4-5 times a day. >Put it into a colander lined with a layer of muslin and allow to stand for >24 hours. Pour the liquid into small 1 or 2 oz. bottles preferably with >droppers if you can find them. This does not need to be refrigerated but if >it starts looking or smelling bad throw out and make some fresh. > >I make this just before school starts as my children will always come home >sick within 2 weeks after school starts. > > >http://www.ambertech.com/Pats/ear_ache.htm > Ellen >ladylumbee@... >I believe that what is right is not always popular and what is popular is >not always right. > >HELP FREE LEONARD PELTIER >Wrongfully Imprisoned for 25 years >http://www.freepeltier.org/ > >Learn more about the CROATAN/LUMBEE Indians >http://www.lumbee.org/index2.htm > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2001 Report Share Posted May 31, 2001 it has to say that on the website for legal reasons Ellen ladylumbee@... I believe that what is right is not always popular and what is popular is not always right. HELP FREE LEONARD PELTIER Wrongfully Imprisoned for 25 years http://www.freepeltier.org/ Learn more about the CROATAN/LUMBEE Indians http://www.lumbee.org/index2.htm Ear Ache > >Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 05:30:09 -0500 > > > >This ear treatment will give relief when your child wakes up in the middle > >of the night complaining that his ear hurts. To give it you should warm it > >by running hot water over the bottle. Drop 2-3 drops in the ear every 15 > >min. until relief is obtained. This is only a temporary fix and you should > >still see your Dr. for an anti-biotic. > > > > > > 3 cloves garlic > > ½ medium sized onion > > ¾ c. mullein c/s > > 1 c. yarrow c/s > > ¼ c. white willow bark c/s > > cold pressed virgin olive oil > > > >Chop garlic and onion into small pieces and put everything into a 1 quart > >jar. Allow to sit in a sunny window for two weeks, shaking 4-5 times a day. > >Put it into a colander lined with a layer of muslin and allow to stand for > >24 hours. Pour the liquid into small 1 or 2 oz. bottles preferably with > >droppers if you can find them. This does not need to be refrigerated but if > >it starts looking or smelling bad throw out and make some fresh. > > > >I make this just before school starts as my children will always come home > >sick within 2 weeks after school starts. > > > > > >http://www.ambertech.com/Pats/ear_ache.htm > > Ellen > >ladylumbee@... > >I believe that what is right is not always popular and what is popular is > >not always right. > > > >HELP FREE LEONARD PELTIER > >Wrongfully Imprisoned for 25 years > >http://www.freepeltier.org/ > > > >Learn more about the CROATAN/LUMBEE Indians > >http://www.lumbee.org/index2.htm > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2001 Report Share Posted May 31, 2001 -Why use antibiotics?? Why not try nothing for the first time or so and let the body take care of itself? If you put anything in the ear make sure the ear drum is intact. christina in canada -- In Vaccinations@y..., " Lady Lumbee " <ladylumbee@n...> wrote: > This ear treatment will give relief when your child wakes up in the middle > of the night complaining that his ear hurts. To give it you should warm it > by running hot water over the bottle. Drop 2-3 drops in the ear every 15 > min. until relief is obtained. This is only a temporary fix and you should > still see your Dr. for an anti-biotic. > > > 3 cloves garlic > ½ medium sized onion > ¾ c. mullein c/s > 1 c. yarrow c/s > ¼ c. white willow bark c/s > cold pressed virgin olive oil > > Chop garlic and onion into small pieces and put everything into a 1 quart > jar. Allow to sit in a sunny window for two weeks, shaking 4-5 times a day. > Put it into a colander lined with a layer of muslin and allow to stand for > 24 hours. Pour the liquid into small 1 or 2 oz. bottles preferably with > droppers if you can find them. This does not need to be refrigerated but if > it starts looking or smelling bad throw out and make some fresh. > > I make this just before school starts as my children will always come home > sick within 2 weeks after school starts. > > > http://www.ambertech.com/Pats/ear_ache.htm > Ellen > ladylumbee@n... > I believe that what is right is not always popular and what is popular is > not always right. > > HELP FREE LEONARD PELTIER > Wrongfully Imprisoned for 25 years > http://www.freepeltier.org/ > > Learn more about the CROATAN/LUMBEE Indians > http://www.lumbee.org/index2.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2001 Report Share Posted May 31, 2001 also, if you get your child off of dairy/gluten, no more earaches in many cases....also i read the diptheria vax is one of the main causes of ear infections. see www.paleodiet.com www.neanderthin.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2001 Report Share Posted June 1, 2001 The lady put that statement on the website for LEGAL reasons. I have used this oil and it helps to relieve the pain. Having suffered from severe earaches as a child with no known cause, I do offer as much relief as possible to my children when they have one. Ellen ladylumbee@... I believe that what is right is not always popular and what is popular is not always right. HELP FREE LEONARD PELTIER Wrongfully Imprisoned for 25 years http://www.freepeltier.org/ Learn more about the CROATAN/LUMBEE Indians http://www.lumbee.org/index2.htm Re: Ear Ache -Why use antibiotics?? Why not try nothing for the first time or so and let the body take care of itself? If you put anything in the ear make sure the ear drum is intact. christina in canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 > > My 7yo dd has a ear ache. Is there anything I can do to help with the pain. +++Hi Colleen, My grandson started getting ear aches at 9 months old. I put garlic in his ears, by crushing garlic and cutting a small piece that would fit into his ear, followed by a cotton ball to hold it in. Inside of 5 minutes he stopped crying and pulling on his ear, so it is an amazing remedy. The piece of garlic would dry up and easily fall out of his ear later. I've also used it in my own ears for pain. Also heat is good for ear pain. Heat increases healing blood and immune system substances to the area. Use a hot-water bottle, a hot towel or a heating pad, warmed to a comfortably hot level and wrapped in a towel. Keep the heat on the ear for 20 minutes or until the pain goes away, whichever comes first. Also ear problems can be helped by rubbing oil of oregano around the outside of the ear; oil of oregano is just as powerful a pain killer as morphine. It may need to be diluted more with coconut or olive oil when treating children. Do not put oil of oregano directly in the ear canal. I hope that helps. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Juice turmeric (either in a juicer, or grate it and squeeze through cheese cloth). Put the liquid in a tincture bottle for ease of use. 2-4 drops in the ear canal for 10-15 minutes will bring relief. For good measure, continue even after symptoms subside. It will stain the inner ear orange for a couple of days, but it brings relief better than anything I've ever used, including olive oil infused with garlic and mullein. It is a traditional Hawaiian remedy for ear and sinus infections. From: nutrition [mailto:nutrition ] On Behalf Of Suzy Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:51 AM nutrition Subject: Ear Ache Can someone please post an ear ache remedy? Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 About 15 years ago, I had a series of external ear infections (external means it's in the ear canal, but outside of the ear drum.) It was caused by a fungus that would lead to a secondary bacterial infection (very painful). After visiting several doctors over several years, I finally went to an ENT doctor who told me to make a mixture of half white vinegar and half isopropyl alcohol, put it in a squeeze bottle and squirt some in my ears every day. It really burned the first couple of days because they were raw inside, but the bacterial infections stopped immediately, and the fungus was completely wiped out after a month or so. The doctor explained that ear canals are normally acidic, but soap, shampoo, swimming pool water & such can make it alkaline and gives fungus a chance to grow. If the fungus gets a foothold, it creates an environment that is suitable for itself by killing off the normal " good " bacteria in the ear. The vinegar restores acid to the ear canal, and combined with the alcohol kills off the fungus and bacteria. If solves the ear ache problem very quickly, but you have to keep using it for a month or more until the fungus is wiped out. This won't work with middle ear infections like many small children get because the mixture cannot get to the infected area. Often a middle ear infection ends after rupturing the ear drum. That allows the pus to escape and relieves the pressure (pain). DO NOT use the vinegar and alcohol when there is a chance of a ruptured ear drum or if there are " tubes " in the ears. I can tell you from experience it is VERY painful when alcohol gets into the middle ear. On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 3:30 PM, <lauren@...> wrote: > > > Juice turmeric (either in a juicer, or grate it and squeeze through cheese > cloth). Put the liquid in a tincture bottle for ease of use. 2-4 drops in > the ear canal for 10-15 minutes will bring relief. For good measure, > continue even after symptoms subside. It will stain the inner ear orange > for a couple of days, but it brings relief better than anything I've ever > used, including olive oil infused with garlic and mullein. It is a > traditional Hawaiian remedy for ear and sinus infections. > > From: nutrition > [mailto:nutrition ] On Behalf Of Suzy > Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 2:51 AM > nutrition > Subject: Ear Ache > > > Can someone please post an ear ache remedy? > Thank you! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Nice tip! I second the " acid " approach. I keep a spray bottle of vinegar in the shower, and after a shower I spray myself with it, esp. my head, to " undo " the effects of the soap. This closes the pores of the skin, and restores the acidity. The vinegar smell just disappears, so don't worry about it. Also, if you have soft water, you notice how you can't " wash off " the soap? Actually the soap is in fact washed off, but the pores of your skin are open and that's what causes the slimy feel. Or so they say. Anyway, if you keep a spray bottle of vinegar by the sink and just spray your hands with vinegar, the slimy feel goes right away. And your hands don't get dry and cracked from being in dishwater! It works after gardening too, since dirt makes your hands alkaline also. The " alkaline " issue is one reason I'm leery of using hydrogen peroxide, which a lot of people recommend. It does kill germs, but it leaves your skin very alkaline, and I've had infections get worse after using it. For bacterial and viral infections, what has worked really well for me is a heating pad. It can make it feel worse for a bit ... like, it can make your nose feel MORE clogged for awhile ... but the bacteria tend to like temps a little colder than body heat, which is why they like ears and noses and toes. So bringing the temp up to 102 or so really kills germs nicely! It's worked for us on MRSA too. Sitting in front of a radiant heater or fireplace is a good way to warm part of your body also, or maybe one of those infrared " guns " . Or even just a hot water bottle. I have a Thermotech medium-size pad though, and it's worth every penny. On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Harkness <davidharkness@...>wrote: > About 15 years ago, I had a series of external ear infections (external > means it's in the ear canal, but outside of the ear drum.) It was caused > by > a fungus that would lead to a secondary bacterial infection (very painful). > After visiting several doctors over several years, I finally went to an ENT > doctor who told me to make a mixture of half white vinegar and half > isopropyl alcohol, put it in a squeeze bottle and squirt some in my ears > every day. It really burned the first couple of days because they were raw > inside, but the bacterial infections stopped immediately, and the fungus > was > completely wiped out after a month or so. > > The doctor explained that ear canals are normally acidic, but soap, > shampoo, > swimming pool water & such can make it alkaline and gives fungus a chance > to > grow. If the fungus gets a foothold, it creates an environment that is > suitable for itself by killing off the normal " good " bacteria in the ear. > The vinegar restores acid to the ear canal, and combined with the alcohol > kills off the fungus and bacteria. If solves the ear ache problem very > quickly, but you have to keep using it for a month or more until the fungus > is wiped out. > > This won't work with middle ear infections like many small children get > because the mixture cannot get to the infected area. Often a middle ear > infection ends after rupturing the ear drum. That allows the pus to escape > and relieves the pressure (pain). DO NOT use the vinegar and alcohol when > there is a chance of a ruptured ear drum or if there are " tubes " in the > ears. I can tell you from experience it is VERY painful when alcohol gets > into the middle ear. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 I made good experience with the following remedy: chop an onion and heat it in olive oil so it becomes transparent. put the warm onion inside a thin kitchen towel or cheese cloth and put it on the ear. keep it there as long as it is warm. Once it is cold I reheat it in the microwave so I can use it even longer. > > Can someone please post an ear ache remedy? > Thank you! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Thank you for the responses. I appreciate them all. --- In nutrition , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 I have been thinking about your earache question. I have been glad to hear all the responses that have come in so far. But what I was thinking has been running on different lines. I used to have a lot of trouble with all the cavities around my ears. I found out that such places like those cavities and the middle ear have more to do with the lymph system than the blood stream. (Am I right about this?) I was also told that there might be a connection between such symptoms and systemic candida. I used a substance called " beta glucan " , a derivitive of brewers yeast. This stimulates the macrophages to work cleaning up debris and foreign organisms in both blood and lymph . I have most recently been using a similar substance called " whole glucan particle " which I think does a better job. When I first started using the beta blucan, I took it every day. Now I only take the other when I feel that congested feeling around my ears. The other thing I wanted to say. When my daughter was a baby, she started getting ear infections. After the first bout, we eliminated all refined sugar and other similar sweeteners from our family's diet. She never had any more problems. My son, two years younger, has never had ear infection problems. These comments may be of a more long term solution than you were looking for. I hope that you have received something helpful from all these replies, Ellis Hein Ear Ache Can someone please post an ear ache remedy? Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Hi Ellis, The interactions of living things, organs, and organisms are remarkably complex. I would not consider myself anywhere near being qualified to answer those questions. Doctors and scientists today know much more than they did fifty years ago, but haven't even scratched the surface. It's interesting that you mentioned sugar. When I was in college, I was recruited to be a participant in study about the effects of sugar on mental health. It sounded interesting, so I signed up. It was a double-blind study (in theory). There were two groups of participants. All were given psychological tests, and then all were required to go on a very strict diet. Actually, we could eat quite well, but had to totally avoid anything with even the smallest amount of ADDED sugar. Fruits and vegetables were allowed as long as no sugar was added. Same thing with meats, dairy and other stuff. The only trouble was that the diet eliminated almost every kind of processed food available! (It's astonishing how much processed food has added sugar. I would say 99 %.) I was forced to personally prepare everything I ate for sixteen weeks. Halfway through the study, everyone was given the psychological tests again, and then each person was given a gallon jug of " Koolaid " to drink each day. The test group was given sugar sweetened drink, and the control group was given artificially sweetened drink. We maintained the same diet except that we had to drink a gallon of that stuff every day. I say the study was " double-blind in theory, " because on tasting the drink, it was very obvious that mine contained artificial sweetener. I continued on, but I was honest with the people running the test that I knew which group I was in. (They still didn't know which group I was in, so I didn't tell them to avoid any bias on their part.) After a few days, I quit drinking the nasty tasting artificial sweetener, but continued on the diet. We all took psychological tests again at the end and then we were debriefed. I was totally honest that I knew I was in the control group and that I had stopped drinking the koolaid because of the disagreeable taste of the artificial sweetener. I assume my results were thrown out. (At least, I hope they were--it would have been academically dishonest to include them.) I never found out the results of that study. (As an engineering student, I had too many other things on my mind.) But what happened to me on that diet was very interesting. I lost about thirty pounds and was never hungry after the first couple of days. I'm sure I ate less simply because it was so inconvenient to prepare my own food, but I still wasn't hungry. When I did eat, I ate as much as I wanted. I became convinced that sugar is not only a source of calories, but is an appetite stimulant. Makes sense to me! Think about it--would you eat a plate full of oatmeal cookies if they contained absolutely no added sweeteners? You might eat a few if you were hungry, but you would stop as soon as you stopped being hungry. You wouldn't scarf down a whole plate of them while watching American Idol! Unfortunately, I haven't put this enlightenment to very good use. I occasionally avoid added sugar for a few months at a time, but it takes a lot of vigilance to keep it up when things get busy or I have to travel. Still, whenever I strictly avoid added sugar, I feel better and drop some weight without any hunger. I don't pretend to know the intricacies of what sugar does to the body, but I do know I'm better off when I avoid it. n Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Ellis Hein <woodturnedart@...> wrote: > > > I have been thinking about your earache question. I have been glad to hear > all the responses that have come in so far. But what I was thinking has been > running on different lines. I used to have a lot of trouble with all the > cavities around my ears. I found out that such places like those cavities > and the middle ear have more to do with the lymph system than the blood > stream. (Am I right about this?) I was also told that there might be a > connection between such symptoms and systemic candida. > > I used a substance called " beta glucan " , a derivitive of brewers yeast. > This stimulates the macrophages to work cleaning up debris and foreign > organisms in both blood and lymph . I have most recently been using a > similar substance called " whole glucan particle " which I think does a better > job. When I first started using the beta blucan, I took it every day. Now I > only take the other when I feel that congested feeling around my ears. > > The other thing I wanted to say. When my daughter was a baby, she started > getting ear infections. After the first bout, we eliminated all refined > sugar and other similar sweeteners from our family's diet. She never had any > more problems. My son, two years younger, has never had ear infection > problems. > > These comments may be of a more long term solution than you were looking > for. > > I hope that you have received something helpful from all these replies, > > Ellis Hein > > Ear Ache > > Can someone please post an ear ache remedy? > Thank you! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 If you've been swimming and develop a sore ear or ear ache, this is what we use. For " Swimmer's Ear " we always keep a dropper bottle of half white vinegar and half rubbing alcohol. After swimming we always treat our ears with a few drops as a preventative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Your experience with the sugar study was intereesting. I will have ot say that artificial sweeteners have their own drawbacks. I personally have never had a weight problem. I rarely eatr white sugar and the same goes for artificial sweeteners and other chemicals. I do know that when I eat either white sugar or artificial sweeteners, I might get a itch, rash or slight headache. I try to limit my sweet intake to natural sugars and do not have these reactions. however, all sweeteners, white or natural have the same effect on the pancreas and can cause sugar highs and lows. I get tired if I might have extra sugar. GB > > Hi Ellis, > > The interactions of living things, organs, and organisms are remarkably > complex. I would not consider myself anywhere near being qualified to > answer those questions. Doctors and scientists today know much more than > they did fifty years ago, but haven't even scratched the surface. > > It's interesting that you mentioned sugar. When I was in college, I was > recruited to be a participant in study about the effects of sugar on mental > health. It sounded interesting, so I signed up. It was a double-blind > study (in theory). There were two groups of participants. All were given > psychological tests, and then all were required to go on a very strict > diet. Actually, we could eat quite well, but had to totally avoid anything > with even the smallest amount of ADDED sugar. Fruits and vegetables were > allowed as long as no sugar was added. Same thing with meats, dairy and > other stuff. The only trouble was that the diet eliminated almost every > kind of processed food available! (It's astonishing how much processed food > has added sugar. I would say 99 %.) I was forced to personally prepare > everything I ate for sixteen weeks. Halfway through the study, everyone was > given the psychological tests again, and then each person was given a gallon > jug of " Koolaid " to drink each day. The test group was given sugar > sweetened drink, and the control group was given artificially sweetened > drink. We maintained the same diet except that we had to drink a gallon of > that stuff every day. I say the study was " double-blind in theory, " because > on tasting the drink, it was very obvious that mine contained artificial > sweetener. I continued on, but I was honest with the people running the > test that I knew which group I was in. (They still didn't know which group > I was in, so I didn't tell them to avoid any bias on their part.) After a > few days, I quit drinking the nasty tasting artificial sweetener, but > continued on the diet. We all took psychological tests again at the end and > then we were debriefed. I was totally honest that I knew I was in the > control group and that I had stopped drinking the koolaid because of the > disagreeable taste of the artificial sweetener. I assume my results were > thrown out. (At least, I hope they were--it would have been academically > dishonest to include them.) > > I never found out the results of that study. (As an engineering student, I > had too many other things on my mind.) But what happened to me on that diet > was very interesting. I lost about thirty pounds and was never hungry after > the first couple of days. I'm sure I ate less simply because it was so > inconvenient to prepare my own food, but I still wasn't hungry. When I did > eat, I ate as much as I wanted. I became convinced that sugar is not only a > source of calories, but is an appetite stimulant. Makes sense to me! Think > about it--would you eat a plate full of oatmeal cookies if they contained > absolutely no added sweeteners? You might eat a few if you were hungry, but > you would stop as soon as you stopped being hungry. You wouldn't scarf down > a whole plate of them while watching American Idol! > > Unfortunately, I haven't put this enlightenment to very good use. I > occasionally avoid added sugar for a few months at a time, but it takes a > lot of vigilance to keep it up when things get busy or I have to travel. > Still, whenever I strictly avoid added sugar, I feel better and drop some > weight without any hunger. I don't pretend to know the intricacies of what > sugar does to the body, but I do know I'm better off when I avoid it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 on the sugar issue the glucemic index of agave sirop is really low and that of stevia is null. both are wonderful sweeteners and stevia has great health properties no such tiring ups and lows then regards aThe truth indeed has never been preached by the Buddha, seeing that one has to realize it within oneself. Lamkara Sutra ________________________________ From: greatyoga <greatyoga@...> nutrition Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 7:49:36 PM Subject: Re: Ear Ache Your experience with the sugar study was intereesting. I will have ot say that artificial sweeteners have their own drawbacks. I personally have never had a weight problem. I rarely eatr white sugar and the same goes for artificial sweeteners and other chemicals. I do know that when I eat either white sugar or artificial sweeteners, I might get a itch, rash or slight headache. I try to limit my sweet intake to natural sugars and do not have these reactions. however, all sweeteners, white or natural have the same effect on the pancreas and can cause sugar highs and lows. I get tired if I might have extra sugar. GB > > Hi Ellis, > > The interactions of living things, organs, and organisms are remarkably > complex. I would not consider myself anywhere near being qualified to > answer those questions. Doctors and scientists today know much more than > they did fifty years ago, but haven't even scratched the surface. > > It's interesting that you mentioned sugar. When I was in college, I was > recruited to be a participant in study about the effects of sugar on mental > health. It sounded interesting, so I signed up. It was a double-blind > study (in theory). There were two groups of participants. All were given > psychological tests, and then all were required to go on a very strict > diet. Actually, we could eat quite well, but had to totally avoid anything > with even the smallest amount of ADDED sugar. Fruits and vegetables were > allowed as long as no sugar was added. Same thing with meats, dairy and > other stuff. The only trouble was that the diet eliminated almost every > kind of processed food available! (It's astonishing how much processed food > has added sugar. I would say 99 %.) I was forced to personally prepare > everything I ate for sixteen weeks. Halfway through the study, everyone was > given the psychological tests again, and then each person was given a gallon > jug of " Koolaid " to drink each day. The test group was given sugar > sweetened drink, and the control group was given artificially sweetened > drink. We maintained the same diet except that we had to drink a gallon of > that stuff every day. I say the study was " double-blind in theory, " because > on tasting the drink, it was very obvious that mine contained artificial > sweetener. I continued on, but I was honest with the people running the > test that I knew which group I was in. (They still didn't know which group > I was in, so I didn't tell them to avoid any bias on their part.) After a > few days, I quit drinking the nasty tasting artificial sweetener, but > continued on the diet. We all took psychological tests again at the end and > then we were debriefed. I was totally honest that I knew I was in the > control group and that I had stopped drinking the koolaid because of the > disagreeable taste of the artificial sweetener. I assume my results were > thrown out. (At least, I hope they were--it would have been academically > dishonest to include them.) > > I never found out the results of that study. (As an engineering student, I > had too many other things on my mind.) But what happened to me on that diet > was very interesting. I lost about thirty pounds and was never hungry after > the first couple of days. I'm sure I ate less simply because it was so > inconvenient to prepare my own food, but I still wasn't hungry. When I did > eat, I ate as much as I wanted. I became convinced that sugar is not only a > source of calories, but is an appetite stimulant. Makes sense to me! Think > about it--would you eat a plate full of oatmeal cookies if they contained > absolutely no added sweeteners? You might eat a few if you were hungry, but > you would stop as soon as you stopped being hungry. You wouldn't scarf down > a whole plate of them while watching American Idol! > > Unfortunately, I haven't put this enlightenment to very good use. I > occasionally avoid added sugar for a few months at a time, but it takes a > lot of vigilance to keep it up when things get busy or I have to travel. > Still, whenever I strictly avoid added sugar, I feel better and drop some > weight without any hunger. I don't pretend to know the intricacies of what > sugar does to the body, but I do know I'm better off when I avoid it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 Agave may be low glycemic but it still carries the same problem as sugar - it contributes to heart disease. Very few sweeteners do not contribute to heart disease and honey is one. I'm sure Stevia is safe in that regard, also. ________________________________ From: Moneta <angelamoneta@...> nutrition Sent: Sun, March 13, 2011 7:07:13 PM Subject: Re: Re: Ear Ache on the sugar issue the glucemic index of agave sirop is really low and that of stevia is null. both are wonderful sweeteners and stevia has great health properties no such tiring ups and lows then regards aThe truth indeed has never been preached by the Buddha, seeing that one has to realize it within oneself. Lamkara Sutra ________________________________ From: greatyoga <greatyoga@...> nutrition Sent: Sat, March 12, 2011 7:49:36 PM Subject: Re: Ear Ache Your experience with the sugar study was intereesting. I will have ot say that artificial sweeteners have their own drawbacks. I personally have never had a weight problem. I rarely eatr white sugar and the same goes for artificial sweeteners and other chemicals. I do know that when I eat either white sugar or artificial sweeteners, I might get a itch, rash or slight headache. I try to limit my sweet intake to natural sugars and do not have these reactions. however, all sweeteners, white or natural have the same effect on the pancreas and can cause sugar highs and lows. I get tired if I might have extra sugar. GB > > Hi Ellis, > > The interactions of living things, organs, and organisms are remarkably > complex. I would not consider myself anywhere near being qualified to > answer those questions. Doctors and scientists today know much more than > they did fifty years ago, but haven't even scratched the surface. > > It's interesting that you mentioned sugar. When I was in college, I was > recruited to be a participant in study about the effects of sugar on mental > health. It sounded interesting, so I signed up. It was a double-blind > study (in theory). There were two groups of participants. All were given > psychological tests, and then all were required to go on a very strict > diet. Actually, we could eat quite well, but had to totally avoid anything > with even the smallest amount of ADDED sugar. Fruits and vegetables were > allowed as long as no sugar was added. Same thing with meats, dairy and > other stuff. The only trouble was that the diet eliminated almost every > kind of processed food available! (It's astonishing how much processed food > has added sugar. I would say 99 %.) I was forced to personally prepare > everything I ate for sixteen weeks. Halfway through the study, everyone was > given the psychological tests again, and then each person was given a gallon > jug of " Koolaid " to drink each day. The test group was given sugar > sweetened drink, and the control group was given artificially sweetened > drink. We maintained the same diet except that we had to drink a gallon of > that stuff every day. I say the study was " double-blind in theory, " because > on tasting the drink, it was very obvious that mine contained artificial > sweetener. I continued on, but I was honest with the people running the > test that I knew which group I was in. (They still didn't know which group > I was in, so I didn't tell them to avoid any bias on their part.) After a > few days, I quit drinking the nasty tasting artificial sweetener, but > continued on the diet. We all took psychological tests again at the end and > then we were debriefed. I was totally honest that I knew I was in the > control group and that I had stopped drinking the koolaid because of the > disagreeable taste of the artificial sweetener. I assume my results were > thrown out. (At least, I hope they were--it would have been academically > dishonest to include them.) > > I never found out the results of that study. (As an engineering student, I > had too many other things on my mind.) But what happened to me on that diet > was very interesting. I lost about thirty pounds and was never hungry after > the first couple of days. I'm sure I ate less simply because it was so > inconvenient to prepare my own food, but I still wasn't hungry. When I did > eat, I ate as much as I wanted. I became convinced that sugar is not only a > source of calories, but is an appetite stimulant. Makes sense to me! Think > about it--would you eat a plate full of oatmeal cookies if they contained > absolutely no added sweeteners? You might eat a few if you were hungry, but > you would stop as soon as you stopped being hungry. You wouldn't scarf down > a whole plate of them while watching American Idol! > > Unfortunately, I haven't put this enlightenment to very good use. I > occasionally avoid added sugar for a few months at a time, but it takes a > lot of vigilance to keep it up when things get busy or I have to travel. > Still, whenever I strictly avoid added sugar, I feel better and drop some > weight without any hunger. I don't pretend to know the intricacies of what > sugar does to the body, but I do know I'm better off when I avoid it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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