Intro and a Question

September 9, 2000

Hi rae:

G;ad to see you on this list, too! ;-) As to the body sprays, you need some

type of solvent to get the essential oils to disperse in the water

completely, or you wind up with a cloudy product...not very appealing!

Some things to try are:

Dissolve the oils in grain alcohol or denatured spirits (not rubbing

alcohol), then add the distilled water very gradually to this, rather than

adding the perfumed alcohol to the water. Experiment with the ratio of

alcohol to water, to keep the oils from separating out.

A mixture of polysorbate-20 in the water (not sure of the quantities) will

disperse the oils

When I make a linen spray, I simply add the e.o.'s to distilled water and

shake, but for a commercial product, you will want something more stable and

attractive....

I will do some more research and see what I can find as to actual recipes!

Cat

March 10, 2001

Hi Barb-think we have spoken on another list out in cyberspace somewhere!

I used the " wrong " kind last time and you need creamed coconut and I have

seen it in Wegmans in the ethnic section.

Deb

>

March 10, 2001

Hi Deb, thanks for the reply, I'll have to hunt some of it up cause now I'm

really curious about it. Yes-we've talked before, can't remember what list

tho. Barb

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> Hi Barb-think we have spoken on another list out in cyberspace

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> I used the " wrong " kind last time and you need creamed coconut and I have

> seen it in Wegmans in the ethnic section.

> Deb

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September 2, 2003

Hi to all,

I'm new here, diagnosed with Hep C in October of 2001. I was, and still am,

mostly asymptomatic. When diagnosed, I had gone to the MD at the college I

was attending as an adult student, for treatment of a resistant yeast

infection. Since it had been a long time since I'd had a physical (10

years - and I'm an RN!) we did all the usual stuff, including bloodwork.

Long story short, after rechecking the results, I was Hep C positive, though

at low-to-medium level in titers. Because of the threat of side effects, and

the fact that I'm my own sole support (son is 19 and lives with dad now), I

was and still am reluctant to go to Peg-Interferon or it's derivatives. I've

been using Milk Thistle and Dandelion, as well as Zinc, Vitamin C, and other

immune-system enhancers since then, and feel fine. A dear friend who is

chief of radiology at a local hospital did my biopsy, and found only very

slight changes, no evidence of cirrhosis or cancer, and almost no evidence

of the disease. So much for my intro.

I'm interested in knowing if anyone on this list has been using alternative

treatments in lieu of Peg-Interferon. Recently I began an experimental

natural derivative (detoxified) of Thuja, which was successful in

eliminating the Hep C from the wife of a friend, and has shown tremendous

promise with liver cancers. Since it is a natural treatment and in the

public domain, the biochemist who developed it (he had a hand in creating

Taxol too - he's not a quack) can't get the pharmaceutical companies

interested - they can't make a buck so they aren't interested. I've been on

it for 2 weeks without any untoward effects, and will go back to my own MD

in another 2 weeks for bloodwork to see if there are any changes. In the

meantime, I'm curious what others have experienced in the way of

alternative/complementary medicine.

If this is not OK to discuss here, my apologies to all. Just let me know.

It's hard enough dealing with the emotional and social implications of the

disease, let alone the physical effects of Hep C, and I don't want to make

it harder for anyone else. But I'd like to be able to talk openly with

others, if that's possible.

Namaste

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the state ... obedience to its leader, subordination of the individual will

to the state's authority ... suppression of dissent. Martial virtues are

celebrated, while liberal democratic values are denigrated ... led by

charismatic leaders who represented to their publics the strength that could

rescue their nation from political and economic conditions. "

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September 3, 2003

Hello, !

You can talk openly here because we are all fighting the same dragon.

I hope you'll feel welcome. It's good that you are able to choose

alternatives. I was showing symptoms and some damage, so I decided to

get treatment. That was my choice.

You just keep us informed and stay healthy. All alternative

treatments are of interest to people who have HepC.

God bless,

Suzy

> Hi to all,

>

> I'm new here, diagnosed with Hep C in October of 2001. I was, and

still am,

> mostly asymptomatic. When diagnosed, I had gone to the MD at the

college I

> was attending as an adult student, for treatment of a resistant

yeast

> infection. Since it had been a long time since I'd had a physical

(10

> years - and I'm an RN!) we did all the usual stuff, including

bloodwork.

> Long story short, after rechecking the results, I was Hep C

positive, though

> at low-to-medium level in titers. Because of the threat of side

effects, and

> the fact that I'm my own sole support (son is 19 and lives with dad

now), I

> was and still am reluctant to go to Peg-Interferon or it's

derivatives. I've

> been using Milk Thistle and Dandelion, as well as Zinc, Vitamin C,

and other

> immune-system enhancers since then, and feel fine. A dear friend

who is

> chief of radiology at a local hospital did my biopsy, and found

only very

> slight changes, no evidence of cirrhosis or cancer, and almost no

evidence

> of the disease. So much for my intro.

>

> I'm interested in knowing if anyone on this list has been using

alternative

> treatments in lieu of Peg-Interferon. Recently I began an

experimental

> natural derivative (detoxified) of Thuja, which was successful in

> eliminating the Hep C from the wife of a friend, and has shown

tremendous

> promise with liver cancers. Since it is a natural treatment and in

the

> public domain, the biochemist who developed it (he had a hand in

creating

> Taxol too - he's not a quack) can't get the pharmaceutical companies

> interested - they can't make a buck so they aren't interested. I've

been on

> it for 2 weeks without any untoward effects, and will go back to my

own MD

> in another 2 weeks for bloodwork to see if there are any changes.

In the

> meantime, I'm curious what others have experienced in the way of

> alternative/complementary medicine.

>

> If this is not OK to discuss here, my apologies to all. Just let me

know.

> It's hard enough dealing with the emotional and social implications

of the

> disease, let alone the physical effects of Hep C, and I don't want

to make

> it harder for anyone else. But I'd like to be able to talk openly

with

> others, if that's possible.

>

> Namaste

>

> *****************

> Fascism: - " A philosophy of government that stresses the primacy

and glory

> of

> the state ... obedience to its leader, subordination of the

individual will

> to the state's authority ... suppression of dissent. Martial

virtues are

> celebrated, while liberal democratic values are denigrated ... led

by

> charismatic leaders who represented to their publics the strength

that could

> rescue their nation from political and economic conditions. "

> ~ Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Encyclopedia.

> ******************

> " One sees clearly only with the heart. Anything essential is

invisible to

> the eyes. "

> ~A. St.-Exupery, " The Little Prince "

September 3, 2003

Hi , welcome to the group. I'm like you, that I found out in a physical,

and am mostly asymptomatic with a low viral load. The one thing you didn't

mention is whether or not you have had a liver biopsy. That's the *only* test

that will tell you if you have damage, but I'm sure you already know that.

If, by some reason, you haven't had a biopsy, milk thistle can mask what's

really going on in your bloodwork. Most of us here go by the traditional

treatments (if we're taking treatment at all, I'm not). When I was first

diagnosed, and learned all the side effects of the TX, I looked into all kinds

of alternative therapies. I joined 5 different lists for Hepatitis C, and

learned about others' alternative treatments. Yikes, you have to be careful out

there, lots of snake oil salesmen who can do you a lot of harm. I think the

worst is this woman who is pushing colloidal silver.

I unsubbed from the other four lists and stayed with this one for all the good

common sense, and the kindness of the people here. One pretty good list that I

found that freely discusses sensible alternatives is the group called Hep

C Web Warriors. You might want to check them out. Also, you might want to

visit Dr. Weil's website. He has a lot of information about alternative

medicine and Hepatitis C, and he's very well respected.

I hope you like our group, there are a lot of nice people here.

Marilyn

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