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Thanks, good to know in case I find myself going mentally downhill.

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> I just had another thought. Is there a test for aluminum in the body?

Sure, a simple chemical assay.

Chuck

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I have also heard that aluminium is not good and that there is a link with

Alzheimers.

It is prevalent in most deodorants. In fact it is difficult to find one that

does not have it as an active ingredient.

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote:

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> > Interesting. Do we know what that something else is that makes aluminum

> > harmful or harmless?

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> Albumin binding and renal insufficiency can cause it to concentrate to

> toxic levels. The real remaining mystery is its involvement at quite low

> levels in Alzheimer's.

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> Chuck

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Dr. Mercola says if you are looking for a natural deodorant not to get the

crystal kind because it's not good for you either. I have no idea if he's right

or wrong. I do use regular deodorant.

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> > Interesting. Do we know what that something else is that makes aluminum

> > harmful or harmless?

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> Albumin binding and renal insufficiency can cause it to concentrate to

> toxic levels. The real remaining mystery is its involvement at quite low

> levels in Alzheimer's.

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> Chuck

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Is it possible that aluminium toxicity causes renal insufficiency?

Trish

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> > Interesting. Do we know what that something else is that makes aluminum

> > harmful or harmless?

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> Albumin binding and renal insufficiency can cause it to concentrate to

> toxic levels. The real remaining mystery is its involvement at quite low

> levels in Alzheimer's.

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> Chuck

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What are you disagreeing with ??? My assertion that I would rather avoid adding

to the unavoidable natural radiation or are you saying you believe radiation is

ok in small doses ...radiation accummulates doesn't it, never goes away ...each

x-ray adds to the load so I would prefer to NOT add to the load I already have.

Maybe you are disagreeing with something else, so sorry if I've misunderstood

you.

> Aluminum toxicity is slippery. Like calcium, and a number of other

minerals, the amount that goes in your mouth does not seem correlated with the

hazard. Rather, it is what your body does with it that matters.

What other minerals are you referring to, please.

Thanks.

Trish

> > ... Aluminium and brain damage are connected in my mind

> > and is best avoided in ANY amount ..a bit like radiation ...I would

> > rather not add anything to the amount I've accummulated.

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> I quite disagree. I have been a Radiation Safety Officer for about 25

> years, both in industry and for our university campus.

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> Aluminum toxicity is slippery. Like calcium, and a number of other

> minerals, the amount that goes in your mouth does not seem correlated

> with the hazard. Rather, it is what your body does with it that matters.

> Something else makes whatever amount of aluminum is present, harmful or

> harmless.

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Sorry , thought it would be obvious I was talkking about AVOIDABLE

radiation (x-rays for exmaple)

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> Radiation is rather a broad term, and some of it certainly is to be

> avoided or limited. Other kinds are necessary; without the visual

> portion of the spectrum of em radiation we could not see.

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You can avoid the visual portion of the em radiation by going into a

closed room and installing heavy blinds and turning out all the lights.

You will be in 100% darkness and will be avoiding some avoidable

radiation. But IMHO there will be no health benefits and there will be

a lot of inconveniences.

You can avoid any direct sunlight [which is 100% radiation] but then

you'll have to take more vitamin D.

SOME radiation should be limited or avoided; other is beneficial.

Without the radiation from the sun we would all die, so it is confusing

to lump excessive X-rays with sunlight.

I see now you didn't mean ALL radiation; you mean potentially harmful

radiation.

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> Sorry , thought it would be obvious I was talkking about

> AVOIDABLE radiation (x-rays for exmaple)

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> > Radiation is rather a broad term, and some of it certainly is to be

> > avoided or limited. Other kinds are necessary; without the visual

> > portion of the spectrum of em radiation we could not see.

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What are your thoughts on low-dose radiation and it's healing claims? Just

curious since I read up on a site that sells low dose radiation rocks.

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> Radiation is rather a broad term, and some of it certainly is to be

> avoided or limited. Other kinds are necessary; without the visual

> portion of the spectrum of em radiation we could not see.

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I would not knowingly add more radiation than is already inherent in the

appliances that are in my home or the xrays that I absolutely have to have, or

the backround radiation from the sun.

<>Roni

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Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

From: marysugrue <marysugrue@...>

Subject: Re: Salt

hypothyroidism

Date: Saturday, February 20, 2010, 3:30 PM

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What are your thoughts on low-dose radiation and it's healing claims?  Just

curious since I read up on a site that sells low dose radiation rocks. 

>

> Radiation is rather a broad term, and some of it certainly is to be

> avoided or limited.  Other kinds are necessary; without the visual

> portion of the spectrum of em radiation we could not see.

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Quackery. Some radiation [a healthy level of sunlight] is beneficial;

some [X-rays and stronger] can be harmful or even fatal. Anyone trying

to sell you low dose radiation rocks for health reasons hopes you have a

few rocks in your head.

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> Posted by: " marysugrue " marysugrue@...

> <mailto:marysugrue@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Salt> marysugrue

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> Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:30 pm (PST)

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> What are your thoughts on low-dose radiation and it's healing claims?

> Just curious since I read up on a site that sells low dose radiation

> rocks.

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> > Radiation is rather a broad term, and some of it certainly is to be

> > avoided or limited. Other kinds are necessary; without the visual

> > portion of the spectrum of em radiation we could not see.

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I fully concur with that. Purposeful radiation that is not ABSOLUTELY necessary

is a terrible thing to do to your body. It stays with you and accumulates. It

could eventually cause cancer. Don't do it..

<>Roni

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It's called knowledge!

 

Just because something isn't seen

doesn't mean it's not there<>

From: <res075oh@...>

Subject: Re: Salt

hypothyroidism

Date: Saturday, February 20, 2010, 9:00 PM

Quackery.  Some radiation [a healthy level of sunlight] is beneficial;

some [X-rays and stronger] can be harmful or even fatal.  Anyone trying

to sell you low dose radiation rocks for health reasons hopes you have a

few rocks in your head.

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>       Posted by: " marysugrue " marysugrue@...

>       <mailto:marysugrue@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20Salt> marysugrue

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>         Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:30 pm (PST)

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> What are your thoughts on low-dose radiation and it's healing claims?

> Just curious since I read up on a site that sells low dose radiation

> rocks.

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> > Radiation is rather a broad term, and some of it certainly is to be

> > avoided or limited. Other kinds are necessary; without the visual

> > portion of the spectrum of em radiation we could not see.

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You wrote:

> I have also heard that aluminium is not good and that there is a link with

> Alzheimers....

Aluminum is also present in almost every food. It is the MAIN ingredient

in a number of antacid products. If it were truly as toxic as described,

people taking those otc antacids should suffer immediate dementia.

However, there appears to be NO connection between Alzheimer's and

dietary aluminum. Instead, the nerve degeneration process somehow

collects aluminum even from nominal tissue levels. The disease is

connected to what the nerves do with aluminum, not to how much we ingest.

Chuck

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Roni Molin wrote:

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> Dr. Mercola says if you are looking for a natural deodorant not to get

> the crystal kind because it's not good for you either. I have no idea if

> he's right or wrong. I do use regular deodorant.

Aluminum compounds are in the antiperspirants. If you get plain

deodorant, without antiperspirant, it should not have aluminum in it.

Chuck

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Trish wrote:

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> Is it possible that aluminium toxicity causes renal insufficiency?

It attacks other things first, which is why high aluminum levels are

considered a symptom of renal failure, not the other way around. They do

tell people with kidney problems to avoid the aluminum antacids.

Chuck

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Hello Angie,

The important thing about sea salt is its mineral content. See here for Bee's

guidelines on the subject:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/supp1.php (scroll down to

Minerals)

Both Celtic Sea Salt and Himalayan are very good and are recommended on this

program.

I have purchased my Celtic Sea Salt directly from the Grain & Salt Society (link

on page above). Their service and delivery are excellent.

I placed my first order with Saltworks last week for Himalayan Pink, so I cannot

report on that yet. One of our members, Pam M, I believe, has experience with

Saltworks and recommends them. She posted not too long ago; you can do a search

of recent messages.

Hope that helps,

andra, a group moderator

Hello, I would like to know if anyone has purchased the celtic sea salt or

the the hymilian sea salt from Saltworks. Just want to make sure they have good

quality salt.

Thank you for your reply,

Angie

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Hi Bee;

I bought this Himalayn pink salt (why is it pink!) that say's it contains

all the minerals of the body, also I have Celtic grey Sea Salt. Which do you

prefer and why.

Thanks;

Jeanne

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> Hi Bee;

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> I bought this Himalayn pink salt (why is it pink!) that say's it contains

all the minerals of the body, also I have Celtic grey Sea Salt. Which do you

prefer and why.

+++Hi Jeanne,

I don't have any preference since they both contain over 84 minerals your body

needs. That combination of minerals is exactly like your tears.

I've been getting a good grey moist large crystal ocean sea salt, which

indicates the most minerals, from the same area in Brittany, France, that is a

lot cheaper than Celtic or Himalayan:

http://www.thehealingcanopy.com/_product_52066/Le_Paludier_%E2%80%93_Organic_Unr\

efined_Coarse_Grey_Sea_Salt_1kg

It is available at local health stores and online.

Bee

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> Hi Bee,

>

> Hope that your having a brilliant day today. I wanted to ask you about Salt.

I live in Europe (Germany). I was wondering if Himalayan Salt is good enough to

use instead of

> Sea salt, because there is numerous of Nature stores here but most of them

recommend the Himalayan Salt, so that is what I have been using. Just wondering

if that is ok.

+++Hi Carol,

Thanks. My day is good so far.

Recently I discovered that Himalayan salt is not actually from the Himalayan

mountain region and it also is not a sea salt, since it is made from rocks in

Pakistan - see Himalaya Salt:

http://www.poisonfluoride.com/pfpc/html/himalaya.html

" Over the last few years a new scam has emerged in Europe which is rapidly

spreading across the world.

It involves ordinary rock salt from the " salt range " in Pakistan being marketed

as luxurious and healing " Himalaya Salt " .

It is also sold as " Himalayan Crystal Salt, " " Hunza-Kristallsalz " or natural

" Kristallsalz, " " VitaSal, " " AromaLife, " etc.

The scam is currently being introduced in India and the United States. " Read

the rest of the article.

So I will not be recommending any kind of Himalayan salt any longer. Shucks,

that's another piece of bad advice I got from Dr. Mercola.

Instead I'll only be recommending:

1) Light Gray Celtic sea salt which is available at many health stores or

through my website ad at Selina Naturally:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/resource/selina.php

OR

2) Light gray sea salt from the shores of Brittany, France.

Be sure to get the light gray crystals because it contains more minerals than

fine grind, etc. - if you go to the link at Selina Naturally above you will see

a photo of them.

You should use them moist, and if you want to grind them you should do it just

before using them. They cannot be ground up in regular salt grinders since they

are too moist - there are special grinders but they can be expensive.

You can grind them in a coffee grinder, but ensure it is cleaned and dried out

well otherwise it will cause rusting. Or use a mortar and pestle.

Hugs to you too,

Bee

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Kyocera makes a ceramic salt grinder that is pretty good for the moist sea salt

crystals. It's available on Amazon for about $17. And if you go though the

Amazon link on Bee's website, she gets a little credit for your purchase.

Lilac

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> You should use them moist, and if you want to grind them you should do it just

before using them. They cannot be ground up in regular salt grinders since they

are too moist - there are special grinders but they can be expensive.

>

> You can grind them in a coffee grinder, but ensure it is cleaned and dried out

well otherwise it will cause rusting. Or use a mortar and pestle.

>

> Hugs to you too,

> Bee

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Some of it is from the Asian grocery. Sometimes I use kosher salt from the

grocery store. Sometimes I use plain ol' Mortons. Sometimes I use unrefined

" ancient seas " salt from the health food store (http://www.realsalt.com).

My family likes that one the best.

I'm just not a salt connoisseur though. I can't tell all that much

difference. OTOH homegrown vegies taste way different to me than

store-bought ones (organic or otherwise). So I put work into vegies, not

much into salt.

On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 8:30 PM, Harkness <davidharkness@...>wrote:

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> Where do you buy your salt? Asian grocery?

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Thanks . I found " Morton Canning & Pickling Salt, plain salt,

nothing added " at Walmart. It's in a green 4 lb box.

I tasted my current batch again tonight. It's really good. There is a very

obvious tang to it now (day 7). I bought some Kerr 1 qt jars. I plan to

move it to the jars and refrigerate by this weekend.

On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:32 PM,

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