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I am a true believer in that we should listen to our bodies. I had one of

those " tired " days yesterday myself. I listened to my body and sat it out. This

morning, I was down 1 lb since yesterday. I am wondering if I was

overtraining. Whatever it was, I'm glad I did it. I jumped right back in with

both feet

today.

Good Luck!

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, I think that perhaps the allergies might be the crux of the

matter. I don't have major allergies, but they do flare up when the

pollen count is high and I'm stupid enough to go outside. I took a bike

ride with my daughter yesterday, and I was totally miserable by the time

I got home--my eyes were red, itchy and watery, and I couldn't stop

sneezing and dripping for at least an hour.

I was tired the rest of the day, and I woke up tired this morning, which

is not normal for me. So I did an easy 1 hour cardio workout in the

living room this morning.

I'm just assuming you're talking about pollen allergies. My advice is to

do indoor cardio; avoid being outside as much as possible while the

pollen is flying.

Naomi

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> Hey all!

> Ok so today is my cardio day... I have been abnormally lethargic (like as

> in, I've never been so tired in my life) since last Friday, and it's

> getting

> to the point that I'm almost starting to get concerned about it, but I'm

> just gonna wait it out and see if I feel better next week... So today

> I woke

> up with my allergies raging and I was SO tired, so I was almost talking

> myself out of doing cardio... I thought maybe I could go for a bike ride

> later tonight but I knew that wouldn't do much. So I DID do HIIT cardio,

> but I did it at the speeds of week 1... It was cool to see how far I've

> come, but since I feel so awful it was actually pretty hard. So my

> question

> is, should I have done that? Should I have just forced myself to do

> it at

> the same intensity that I did Tuesday? Should I have just gone for a

> walk

> instead? Should I have just skipped the cardio all together? It's the

> first time I've ever deviated from the workouts so I'm a little uneasy

> about

> it, but I just don't know how to fix how tired I have been and I

> didn't feel

> like I could do it at a super high level (even tho this WAS really

> hard)...

> Hope everyone is having a good BFL day!

>

>

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>

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Your HIIT intensity will vary from workout to workout just like your

body weight, strength, appetite, mood, and a zillion other things vary

from day to day. It's not realistic to think that you're going to

consistently get faster and faster and never drop back or have an off

day. If you're recovering from surgery, maybe your HIIT involves

pushing an IV pole down a hospital hallway and sitting to rest every

few feet. If you're recovering from a cold or you've had two hours of

sleep, maybe your intensity is half of what it normally is. As long as

it's challenging and pushing the limits of your capabilities *at that

time* then you're still hitting a 10 and you haven't messed up or

cheated on anything.

Now, for the exhausted situation, how many hours of sleep are you

getting per night? Most muscle repair and recovery happens during

sleep. The harder you train, the more rest you need. If you were

getting by on 6-7 hours per night pre-BFL, you might suddenly need

more like 9-10 hour per night. You might also need more naps.

If the sleep situation is ok, make sure you're getting enough calories

and carbs, and that you haven't gone cold-turkey on caffeine. Any of

those can leave you feeling like you've been hit by a truck.

> Hey all!

> Ok so today is my cardio day... I have been abnormally lethargic (like as

> in, I've never been so tired in my life) since last Friday, and it's getting

> to the point that I'm almost starting to get concerned about it, but I'm

> just gonna wait it out and see if I feel better next week... So today I woke

> up with my allergies raging and I was SO tired, so I was almost talking

> myself out of doing cardio... I thought maybe I could go for a bike ride

> later tonight but I knew that wouldn't do much. So I DID do HIIT cardio,

> but I did it at the speeds of week 1... It was cool to see how far I've

> come, but since I feel so awful it was actually pretty hard. So my question

> is, should I have done that? Should I have just forced myself to do it at

> the same intensity that I did Tuesday? Should I have just gone for a walk

> instead? Should I have just skipped the cardio all together? It's the

> first time I've ever deviated from the workouts so I'm a little uneasy about

> it, but I just don't know how to fix how tired I have been and I didn't feel

> like I could do it at a super high level (even tho this WAS really hard)...

> Hope everyone is having a good BFL day!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Its really, really allergy season when Claritin is cleard off the shelves and

has to be sold

behind the registers at the local chain drug store...I feel ya. I sneezed and

spurted so

much liquid when it hit that I felt like Id been through a mild heart attack by

the end of the

day.

Needless to say, I was DAMN! tired and dehydrated. Its like having a cold,

without the

virus scare/sympathy.

> > Hey all!

> > Ok so today is my cardio day... I have been abnormally lethargic (like as

> > in, I've never been so tired in my life) since last Friday, and it's getting

> > to the point that I'm almost starting to get concerned about it, but I'm

> > just gonna wait it out and see if I feel better next week... So today I woke

> > up with my allergies raging and I was SO tired, so I was almost talking

> > myself out of doing cardio... I thought maybe I could go for a bike ride

> > later tonight but I knew that wouldn't do much. So I DID do HIIT cardio,

> > but I did it at the speeds of week 1... It was cool to see how far I've

> > come, but since I feel so awful it was actually pretty hard. So my question

> > is, should I have done that? Should I have just forced myself to do it at

> > the same intensity that I did Tuesday? Should I have just gone for a walk

> > instead? Should I have just skipped the cardio all together? It's the

> > first time I've ever deviated from the workouts so I'm a little uneasy about

> > it, but I just don't know how to fix how tired I have been and I didn't feel

> > like I could do it at a super high level (even tho this WAS really hard)...

> > Hope everyone is having a good BFL day!

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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You mention allergies...any chance you have a sinus infection? I know

that, for me, the first sign is extreem wearyness. Ive been known to

fall asleep while on hold on the phone.

Barbara

>

> Hey all!

> Ok so today is my cardio day... I have been abnormally lethargic

(like as

> in, I've never been so tired in my life) since last Friday, and it's

getting

> to the point that I'm almost starting to get concerned about it, but

I'm

> just gonna wait it out and see if I feel better next week... So

today I woke

> up with my allergies raging and I was SO tired, so I was almost talking

> myself out of doing cardio... I thought maybe I could go for a bike

ride

> later tonight but I knew that wouldn't do much. So I DID do HIIT

cardio,

> but I did it at the speeds of week 1... It was cool to see how far I've

> come, but since I feel so awful it was actually pretty hard. So my

question

> is, should I have done that? Should I have just forced myself to do

it at

> the same intensity that I did Tuesday? Should I have just gone for

a walk

> instead? Should I have just skipped the cardio all together? It's the

> first time I've ever deviated from the workouts so I'm a little

uneasy about

> it, but I just don't know how to fix how tired I have been and I

didn't feel

> like I could do it at a super high level (even tho this WAS really

hard)...

> Hope everyone is having a good BFL day!

>

>

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That's a good way to put it, because today, even tho it was slower than I

had gone in 8 weeks, it was still really hard for me.

Ok let's do some troubleshooting here...

#1 Allergies (oh and yes I mean the outdoor pollen/grass/weed/tree ones)...

I'm not stuffy and I don't have a runny nose, it's really just my eyes are

irritated and I cough and sneeze a lot in the morning when I first wake

up... BUT I did some research online and lethargy is REALLY REALLY common in

people who have allergies, even if they don't have a whole slew of

traditional symptoms... But what's weird is that the weather has been

allergy perfect (ie, HIGH in every category) for a month now, why would I

just feel tired now? Thank god its going to rain all next week, I know that

will help a little bit...

#2 Sleep... I average about 8 hours I think... usually fall asleep around

1am and get up around 9am... Then twice a week I let myself sleep in as late

as I want (Wednesdays and Saturdays) so I try to get around 10 hours those

days... But this week, I went to bed at like midnight on friday and didn't

wake up until 11am or so and was having to DRAG myself out of bed... Hmmm.

#3 FOOD.... My ratios are about 40% carbs, 40% protien, and 20% fat... I

track everything on fitday... Here's what I think is the weirdest thing

about all of this... Last Wednesday I decided to eat 1500 calories a day

instead of the 1000-1200 I was averaging following BFL's portion rule. Then

2 days later I'm wiped out? It would seem like MORE calories would give me

more energy... BUT, could it be that my body is finally getting enough

calories to do some serious muscle building and that's what it's doing and

that's why I'm wiped out? Just a thought... I think that's my favorite

solution to this lol... But if that's what it is, do I just have to tough it

out?

Thanks!

Re: Opinions wanted!

> Your HIIT intensity will vary from workout to workout just like your

> body weight, strength, appetite, mood, and a zillion other things vary

> from day to day. It's not realistic to think that you're going to

> consistently get faster and faster and never drop back or have an off

> day. If you're recovering from surgery, maybe your HIIT involves

> pushing an IV pole down a hospital hallway and sitting to rest every

> few feet. If you're recovering from a cold or you've had two hours of

> sleep, maybe your intensity is half of what it normally is. As long as

> it's challenging and pushing the limits of your capabilities *at that

> time* then you're still hitting a 10 and you haven't messed up or

> cheated on anything.

>

> Now, for the exhausted situation, how many hours of sleep are you

> getting per night? Most muscle repair and recovery happens during

> sleep. The harder you train, the more rest you need. If you were

> getting by on 6-7 hours per night pre-BFL, you might suddenly need

> more like 9-10 hour per night. You might also need more naps.

>

> If the sleep situation is ok, make sure you're getting enough calories

> and carbs, and that you haven't gone cold-turkey on caffeine. Any of

> those can leave you feeling like you've been hit by a truck.

>

>

>

>

>> Hey all!

>> Ok so today is my cardio day... I have been abnormally lethargic (like as

>> in, I've never been so tired in my life) since last Friday, and it's

>> getting

>> to the point that I'm almost starting to get concerned about it, but I'm

>> just gonna wait it out and see if I feel better next week... So today I

>> woke

>> up with my allergies raging and I was SO tired, so I was almost talking

>> myself out of doing cardio... I thought maybe I could go for a bike ride

>> later tonight but I knew that wouldn't do much. So I DID do HIIT cardio,

>> but I did it at the speeds of week 1... It was cool to see how far I've

>> come, but since I feel so awful it was actually pretty hard. So my

>> question

>> is, should I have done that? Should I have just forced myself to do it

>> at

>> the same intensity that I did Tuesday? Should I have just gone for a

>> walk

>> instead? Should I have just skipped the cardio all together? It's the

>> first time I've ever deviated from the workouts so I'm a little uneasy

>> about

>> it, but I just don't know how to fix how tired I have been and I didn't

>> feel

>> like I could do it at a super high level (even tho this WAS really

>> hard)...

>> Hope everyone is having a good BFL day!

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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1000 calories is WAY too low!!!! Please eat more!

E wrote: That's a good way to put it, because

today, even tho it was slower than I

had gone in 8 weeks, it was still really hard for me.

Ok let's do some troubleshooting here...

#1 Allergies (oh and yes I mean the outdoor pollen/grass/weed/tree ones)...

I'm not stuffy and I don't have a runny nose, it's really just my eyes are

irritated and I cough and sneeze a lot in the morning when I first wake

up... BUT I did some research online and lethargy is REALLY REALLY common in

people who have allergies, even if they don't have a whole slew of

traditional symptoms... But what's weird is that the weather has been

allergy perfect (ie, HIGH in every category) for a month now, why would I

just feel tired now? Thank god its going to rain all next week, I know that

will help a little bit...

#2 Sleep... I average about 8 hours I think... usually fall asleep around

1am and get up around 9am... Then twice a week I let myself sleep in as late

as I want (Wednesdays and Saturdays) so I try to get around 10 hours those

days... But this week, I went to bed at like midnight on friday and didn't

wake up until 11am or so and was having to DRAG myself out of bed... Hmmm.

#3 FOOD.... My ratios are about 40% carbs, 40% protien, and 20% fat... I

track everything on fitday... Here's what I think is the weirdest thing

about all of this... Last Wednesday I decided to eat 1500 calories a day

instead of the 1000-1200 I was averaging following BFL's portion rule. Then

2 days later I'm wiped out? It would seem like MORE calories would give me

more energy... BUT, could it be that my body is finally getting enough

calories to do some serious muscle building and that's what it's doing and

that's why I'm wiped out? Just a thought... I think that's my favorite

solution to this lol... But if that's what it is, do I just have to tough it

out?

Thanks!

Re: Opinions wanted!

> Your HIIT intensity will vary from workout to workout just like your

> body weight, strength, appetite, mood, and a zillion other things vary

> from day to day. It's not realistic to think that you're going to

> consistently get faster and faster and never drop back or have an off

> day. If you're recovering from surgery, maybe your HIIT involves

> pushing an IV pole down a hospital hallway and sitting to rest every

> few feet. If you're recovering from a cold or you've had two hours of

> sleep, maybe your intensity is half of what it normally is. As long as

> it's challenging and pushing the limits of your capabilities *at that

> time* then you're still hitting a 10 and you haven't messed up or

> cheated on anything.

>

> Now, for the exhausted situation, how many hours of sleep are you

> getting per night? Most muscle repair and recovery happens during

> sleep. The harder you train, the more rest you need. If you were

> getting by on 6-7 hours per night pre-BFL, you might suddenly need

> more like 9-10 hour per night. You might also need more naps.

>

> If the sleep situation is ok, make sure you're getting enough calories

> and carbs, and that you haven't gone cold-turkey on caffeine. Any of

> those can leave you feeling like you've been hit by a truck.

>

>

>

>

>> Hey all!

>> Ok so today is my cardio day... I have been abnormally lethargic (like as

>> in, I've never been so tired in my life) since last Friday, and it's

>> getting

>> to the point that I'm almost starting to get concerned about it, but I'm

>> just gonna wait it out and see if I feel better next week... So today I

>> woke

>> up with my allergies raging and I was SO tired, so I was almost talking

>> myself out of doing cardio... I thought maybe I could go for a bike ride

>> later tonight but I knew that wouldn't do much. So I DID do HIIT cardio,

>> but I did it at the speeds of week 1... It was cool to see how far I've

>> come, but since I feel so awful it was actually pretty hard. So my

>> question

>> is, should I have done that? Should I have just forced myself to do it

>> at

>> the same intensity that I did Tuesday? Should I have just gone for a

>> walk

>> instead? Should I have just skipped the cardio all together? It's the

>> first time I've ever deviated from the workouts so I'm a little uneasy

>> about

>> it, but I just don't know how to fix how tired I have been and I didn't

>> feel

>> like I could do it at a super high level (even tho this WAS really

>> hard)...

>> Hope everyone is having a good BFL day!

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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LoL! I know, esp for me who weighs 161 (lean mass 123, oh yeah... hehe i

love throwing that out there)...

And ya wonder why I wasn't losing any weight, hmmm...

Re: Opinions wanted!

>

>

>> Your HIIT intensity will vary from workout to workout just like your

>> body weight, strength, appetite, mood, and a zillion other things vary

>> from day to day. It's not realistic to think that you're going to

>> consistently get faster and faster and never drop back or have an off

>> day. If you're recovering from surgery, maybe your HIIT involves

>> pushing an IV pole down a hospital hallway and sitting to rest every

>> few feet. If you're recovering from a cold or you've had two hours of

>> sleep, maybe your intensity is half of what it normally is. As long as

>> it's challenging and pushing the limits of your capabilities *at that

>> time* then you're still hitting a 10 and you haven't messed up or

>> cheated on anything.

>>

>> Now, for the exhausted situation, how many hours of sleep are you

>> getting per night? Most muscle repair and recovery happens during

>> sleep. The harder you train, the more rest you need. If you were

>> getting by on 6-7 hours per night pre-BFL, you might suddenly need

>> more like 9-10 hour per night. You might also need more naps.

>>

>> If the sleep situation is ok, make sure you're getting enough calories

>> and carbs, and that you haven't gone cold-turkey on caffeine. Any of

>> those can leave you feeling like you've been hit by a truck.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>> Hey all!

>>> Ok so today is my cardio day... I have been abnormally lethargic (like

>>> as

>>> in, I've never been so tired in my life) since last Friday, and it's

>>> getting

>>> to the point that I'm almost starting to get concerned about it, but I'm

>>> just gonna wait it out and see if I feel better next week... So today I

>>> woke

>>> up with my allergies raging and I was SO tired, so I was almost talking

>>> myself out of doing cardio... I thought maybe I could go for a bike ride

>>> later tonight but I knew that wouldn't do much. So I DID do HIIT

>>> cardio,

>>> but I did it at the speeds of week 1... It was cool to see how far I've

>>> come, but since I feel so awful it was actually pretty hard. So my

>>> question

>>> is, should I have done that? Should I have just forced myself to do it

>>> at

>>> the same intensity that I did Tuesday? Should I have just gone for a

>>> walk

>>> instead? Should I have just skipped the cardio all together? It's the

>>> first time I've ever deviated from the workouts so I'm a little uneasy

>>> about

>>> it, but I just don't know how to fix how tired I have been and I didn't

>>> feel

>>> like I could do it at a super high level (even tho this WAS really

>>> hard)...

>>> Hope everyone is having a good BFL day!

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

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i totally think it's allergies

felicity

> That's a good way to put it, because today, even tho it was slower

> than I

> had gone in 8 weeks, it was still really hard for me.

> Ok let's do some troubleshooting here...

>

> #1 Allergies (oh and yes I mean the outdoor pollen/grass/weed/tree

> ones)...

> I'm not stuffy and I don't have a runny nose, it's really just my

> eyes are

> irritated and I cough and sneeze a lot in the morning when I first

> wake

> up... BUT I did some research online and lethargy is REALLY REALLY

> common in

> people who have allergies, even if they don't have a whole slew of

> traditional symptoms... But what's weird is that the weather has been

> allergy perfect (ie, HIGH in every category) for a month now, why

> would I

> just feel tired now? Thank god its going to rain all next week, I

> know that

> will help a little bit...

>

> #2 Sleep... I average about 8 hours I think... usually fall asleep

> around

> 1am and get up around 9am... Then twice a week I let myself sleep

> in as late

> as I want (Wednesdays and Saturdays) so I try to get around 10

> hours those

> days... But this week, I went to bed at like midnight on friday and

> didn't

> wake up until 11am or so and was having to DRAG myself out of

> bed... Hmmm.

>

> #3 FOOD.... My ratios are about 40% carbs, 40% protien, and 20%

> fat... I

> track everything on fitday... Here's what I think is the weirdest

> thing

> about all of this... Last Wednesday I decided to eat 1500 calories

> a day

> instead of the 1000-1200 I was averaging following BFL's portion

> rule. Then

> 2 days later I'm wiped out? It would seem like MORE calories would

> give me

> more energy... BUT, could it be that my body is finally getting enough

> calories to do some serious muscle building and that's what it's

> doing and

> that's why I'm wiped out? Just a thought... I think that's my

> favorite

> solution to this lol... But if that's what it is, do I just have to

> tough it

> out?

> Thanks!

>

>

>

> Re: Opinions wanted!

>

>

>> Your HIIT intensity will vary from workout to workout just like your

>> body weight, strength, appetite, mood, and a zillion other things

>> vary

>> from day to day. It's not realistic to think that you're going to

>> consistently get faster and faster and never drop back or have an off

>> day. If you're recovering from surgery, maybe your HIIT involves

>> pushing an IV pole down a hospital hallway and sitting to rest every

>> few feet. If you're recovering from a cold or you've had two hours of

>> sleep, maybe your intensity is half of what it normally is. As

>> long as

>> it's challenging and pushing the limits of your capabilities *at that

>> time* then you're still hitting a 10 and you haven't messed up or

>> cheated on anything.

>>

>> Now, for the exhausted situation, how many hours of sleep are you

>> getting per night? Most muscle repair and recovery happens during

>> sleep. The harder you train, the more rest you need. If you were

>> getting by on 6-7 hours per night pre-BFL, you might suddenly need

>> more like 9-10 hour per night. You might also need more naps.

>>

>> If the sleep situation is ok, make sure you're getting enough

>> calories

>> and carbs, and that you haven't gone cold-turkey on caffeine. Any of

>> those can leave you feeling like you've been hit by a truck.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>> Hey all!

>>> Ok so today is my cardio day... I have been abnormally lethargic

>>> (like as

>>> in, I've never been so tired in my life) since last Friday, and it's

>>> getting

>>> to the point that I'm almost starting to get concerned about it,

>>> but I'm

>>> just gonna wait it out and see if I feel better next week... So

>>> today I

>>> woke

>>> up with my allergies raging and I was SO tired, so I was almost

>>> talking

>>> myself out of doing cardio... I thought maybe I could go for a

>>> bike ride

>>> later tonight but I knew that wouldn't do much. So I DID do HIIT

>>> cardio,

>>> but I did it at the speeds of week 1... It was cool to see how

>>> far I've

>>> come, but since I feel so awful it was actually pretty hard. So my

>>> question

>>> is, should I have done that? Should I have just forced myself to

>>> do it

>>> at

>>> the same intensity that I did Tuesday? Should I have just gone

>>> for a

>>> walk

>>> instead? Should I have just skipped the cardio all together?

>>> It's the

>>> first time I've ever deviated from the workouts so I'm a little

>>> uneasy

>>> about

>>> it, but I just don't know how to fix how tired I have been and I

>>> didn't

>>> feel

>>> like I could do it at a super high level (even tho this WAS really

>>> hard)...

>>> Hope everyone is having a good BFL day!

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

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I am 2 month post op of my 3 level fusion, still in pain and numbness

cant sleep, forget laying down, my back feels so tight not sure if it

is swelling still or just the way life will be...i had a laminectomy

microdisectomy last feb one 1 level and i had a rough time recovering.

I ended up having to fly and be away from all my comfy things 5 months

post op last time and ended up making my recovery longer, actually had

to delay my return flight just to rest. I am supposed to go to a

wedding and I will be 6m post op at the time. We are looking at a 7 hr

flight with 1 switch and 4 days aways from all my stuff again. Dr wont

say yes or no, to early I have not started fusing yet and I am usually

a good bit behind typical recovery (my hysterectomy took me 6 good

months instead of the 3 they expected and my back took over a year and

ended up needing a 3 level fusion instead) so I am not sure of where I

will be at the 6month mark. Any advice, stories etc would be greatly

appreciated. Thanks , Sparks NV

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