To Stucky

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry Stucky, but you are way off base with your

understanding of a pain management specialist.

Unfortunately it seems like you haven't found a good

one. A good pain management program is multi-faceted.

A large part of what they do is diagnosic, as well as

procedures like injections and radio-frequency

ablations of nerves, etc. They also use many different

types of medication, the majority NOT narcotics, in

conjunction with other therapies. Some pain clinics

offer a psychologist to help the chronic pain sufferer

learn to cope, and to keep their mind set in a healthy

direction. Pain clinics may also refer you for massage

therapy, physical therapy and acupuncture. The overall

job of a pain physician is to diagnose the source of

pain, and to go after it in many different ways. Note:

pain physicians will tell you they do not expect to

cure or fix your pain, the goal is you help you be

able to function, reduce pain and hopefully keep you

physically able to work. A large number of pain

specialists will refure to prescribe narcotics to most

everyone, but every doc has their own philosophy on

narcotic use. I would guess that as many people here

have pain docs, each doc practices very differently

from the rest. I've had six back surgeries now, and

before this last one, I couldn't even get percocet

from my pain doc, just to be able to work. I was

living in extrordinary pain and was prescribed nothing

but Tramadol for it. My pain at work was so bad I was

having cardiac arrythmias and still they refused to

prescibe anything stronger. As I result, I had to

leave my job. Please don't jump to conclusions about

all pain docs based solely on your experiences. I'm

sorry that yours has nothing to offer you but drugs.

Oh, for those of us who have done every possible

surgery, therapy and injection...there are worse

things than addiction to drugs. Most people in pain

like us don't get " addicted " in the terms you think of

on the street. The pain is too great to get a nice

addictive buzz off it first of all. Tolerance is the

biggest thing we deal with,a nd having to increase the

dose. Side effects of increased narcotics are not

pleasant either. They can make you a cranky miserable

person.

If a person did get " addicted " to pain meds and was

miraculously " cured " and didn't need the meds anymore,

you simply wean yourself off with the doctors help.

Worst case scenario, rehab. Most of us are not going

to be miraculously cured. Like I said, there are worse

things than becoming addicted to the meds that relieve

your pain, hopefully enough to go to work or maintain

a somewhat normal life.

Please stop demonizing the use of narcotic based meds

for those who suffer everyday.

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--- stucky <stucky101@...> wrote:

> Hi Geo

>

> Sure we all deal with it differently. I was just

> venting like I hadn't done

> in ages.

> One of the things that get to me though are answers

> like " Find a good pain

> managment doc "

> Let's face it - pain mangement translates straight

> to taking pain mends and

> that's it.

> I have a pain management guy and he is basically my

> " dealer " that's all. He

> helps

> me get stuff I can't legally obtain otherwise. I

> just think the phrase " pain

> management "

> is used in a misleading way many times. I'm sure

> already has a pain

> management in some shape or form

> but clearly she still has trouble dealing with the

> pain so to me such an

> answer is simply useless.

> No offence to anymone...

>

> On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Lambert

> <glambert28@...>wrote:

>

> > Hi Stucky

> > Sorry, to but in, but I just happened to glance at

> your post here, just to

> > say I don't think it's a matter of accepting fate,

> but more accepting

> > reality, I myself don't accept this pain at all I

> fight it everyday. It is

> > very hard to just wake up in the morning to just

> have to face another day of

> > miserable pain, and having to take the meds to try

> and counter act pain

> > effects. I don't think you should feel alone,

> though I think we are all here

> > to help each other get thru the depression of

> having pain the first thing on

> > our mind each and every day. I don't think theres

> one person here that

> > has'nt thought at one or another that if this is

> my fate I would rather not

> > have to live with it (PAIN), and it has cost me a

> lot more than just my

> > youth.

> > Don't get me wrong Stucky, though I just wanted

> you to understand more

> > about what I thought about the pain and how it

> effects. Just only my opinion

> > though:)

> > geo

> >

> >

> > Re: Re:

> [spinal Disorders Support

> >

> > Hi

> >

> > Finally someone " real " and I don't mean that in an

> offending way but I have

> > been following this group fro a while now

> > and it can't help getting the impression that a

> lot of folks here have

> > already accepted their fate.

> > That has always made me feel left out since I

> simply cannot seem to accept

> > that I'm supposed to be locked in a constant

> > world of pain for the rest of my life.

> > That's why your out cry struck a nerve with me. I

> know where you are. I'm

> > 32

> > and have had chronic lower back pain since early

> 1996. It has ruined pretty

> > much everything.

> > To answer your question let me be honest - I DONT

> deal with the pain. I get

> > depressed over it almost the same way to day than

> I did 10 years ago. I

> > feel

> > robbed of my youth and freedom. It's like a jail

> and considering that I've

> > always had a somewhat bleak outlook on life to

> begin with the pain hasn't

> > helped a bit.

> > I'm also EXTREMELY afraid of addiction to any meds

> so I only take

> > norco/vicodin/ oxicontin when I really feel I need

> to.

> > Like going to the movies. At times the pain is

> less there but at other

> > times

> > it makes you wanna put a bullet though your head

> (sorry if this isn't very

> > positive but pain isn't).

> > The one thing I noticed is that if I'm very much

> into something and my mind

> > is very occupied I can go on for a few hours

> sometimes without thinking too

> > much about it. In that sense i'm lucky that I

> still hold a full time job

> > and

> > that I love what I do there. However, outside of

> work things are pretty

> > bleak. I can't really travel cause there aren't

> enough pills in the world

> > to

> > tie me over and as I said - addiction. I only take

> these pills now and then

> > an still I notice that I seem to need more and

> more to get the same effect.

> > I have no idea how folks here take 3 or 4

> different meds every day and

> > don't

> > need double or triple the dosis by now. My body

> seems to build a tolarance

> > almost immediately.

> > So you are not alone for sure. I have had

> epidurals, and IDET, been

> > on

> > the back stretcher, etc...but no luck. I've been

> told by a Stanford Doc

> > that

> > they know more about the heart than the spine and

> that I'm pretty much

> > f*# & %. He literally said that if I can still work

> full time I can deal with

> > the pain and there are other cases that are worse.

> Since then I really

> > haven't even tried anything since the

> dissapoitment is just waaay to

> > hurtful

> > when in the end it doesn't work again. Crushed

> hope seems far worse than no

> > hope.

> > Look like a lot of folks here have religion on

> their side and that great

> > but

> > not everybody has that. I assume it helps them.

> > Let me tell you not a singley day goes by

> that I don't think about

> > the

> > pain so I really know the place where you are.

> > I does help to have an understanding

> boy/girlfriend so you don't have to

> > explain why you can't do this or that but again

> not all of us have that

> > luxury....

> >

> > A fellow sufferer--

> >

> > On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 7:28 AM, @B & B

> <bbhorsetack@ adelphia.

> > net>wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > How do you alll deal wlith the PAIN???? I am new

> to this group. not new

> > to

> > > pain or what it can make your life an absolute

> HELL...Been dealing with

> > it

> > > since 1999.

> > > __,_._,__

> > > How do you all deal

> > >

> > > How do you all deal with the PAIN?????

> > >

> > > with the PAIN?????

> > >

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