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Donna,

Are you icing your back? I found that helped me a lot and

I didn't need as many meds. You can buy on-line or at your

drug store these very blue flexible cold packs. I bought a few

so I could alternate them. The first month or so is going to be

tough but you also have a right to contact your surgeon if you

have any concerns about your recovery.

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Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:29:08 +0000Subject: Cervical disc

fusion surgery

Hi Everyone,Well I had my fusion surgery last friday and lets just say that

thiswhole thing hasn't been easy at all!. I had C3/C4 C4/C5 fused. Iconstantly

feel like I have a lump in my throat and the muscle spasmsbetween my shoulder

blades are awful. My pain management group kept meon the same meds as I was

before surgery! I would have thought theycould have at least increased my short

acting medicine for awhile!Anyway, The last day or so I have been having this

weird sensation inmy lower back everytime I move my head or when I move around.

It feelslike my spinal cord is spasming?? I feel like I am having the EMGtestn

and I keep getting zapped in my lower back. Has anyone else hadthis post

surgery? I dont know if I should report it or not? Its areeeally annoying

sensation and keeps getting stronger. What do youall think?Donna in GA

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Hello Donna,

I had the same fusion done in 02, and I was having the same sensations. I still

feel like I have been slugged between the shoulder blades, Or a stabbing knife

sensation. Some days are still worst than others, I keep getting spasms If I

move the wrong way, and it can get bad sometimes. The lump in your throat, the

doc explained to me was the new hardware your feeling, and the manipulation they

had to do. Did they go thru the front of your neck?  I still feel it sometimes,

but I got use to it, I just have problems taking very large pills. Yes I would

let your surgeon know just in case. I do feel your pain, it is a very rough

surgery.

I hope your recovery is as quick and as pain less as possible,

geo

Cervical disc fusion surgery

Hi Everyone,

Well I had my fusion surgery last friday and lets just say that this

whole thing hasn't been easy at all!. I had C3/C4 C4/C5 fused. I

constantly feel like I have a lump in my throat and the muscle spasms

between my shoulder blades are awful. My pain management group kept me

on the same meds as I was before surgery! I would have thought they

could have at least increased my short acting medicine for awhile!

Anyway, The last day or so I have been having this weird sensation in

my lower back everytime I move my head or when I move around. It feels

like my spinal cord is spasming?? I feel like I am having the EMG

testn and I keep getting zapped in my lower back. Has anyone else had

this post surgery? I dont know if I should report it or not? Its a

reeeally annoying sensation and keeps getting stronger. What do you

all think?

Donna in GA

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Donna, I also had neck fusion and found the muscle relaxor drug Robaxin

(methocarbamol), 750 mg. every 8 hours helped enormously with the muscle spasms.

I did not have the problem you have described in my back. I would definitely

contact the surgeon and tell him what is happening. y surgery was from the back

of the neck. I surmise yours was from the front?

Arlene

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Disorders Support] Cervical disc fusion surgery

Hi Everyone,Well I had my fusion surgery last friday and lets just say that

thiswhole thing hasn't been easy at all!. I had C3/C4 C4/C5 fused. Iconstantly

feel like I have a lump in my throat and the muscle spasmsbetween my shoulder

blades are awful. My pain management group kept meon the same meds as I was

before surgery! I would have thought theycould have at least increased my short

acting medicine for awhile!Anyway, The last day or so I have been having this

weird sensation inmy lower back everytime I move my head or when I move around.

It feelslike my spinal cord is spasming?? I feel like I am having the EMGtestn

and I keep getting zapped in my lower back. Has anyone else hadthis post

surgery? I dont know if I should report it or not? Its areeeally annoying

sensation and keeps getting stronger. What do youall think?Donna in GA

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Hi Arlene,

Yes I had an anterior cervical disc fusion. I am on a muscle relaxant called

Zanaflex. I have been on this dose of 2mg for over a year. And I have been using

a heating pad almost continuously because that is what the neurosurgeon

recommended. I started out using ice and continued it until I noticed I got

better relief with the heat than with the cold..go figure. But those " spasms " i

am having in my lower back are really annoying to the point of being painful.

The neurosurgeon said my spinal cord was bruised from being so restricted, so

maybe that has somethin to do with it..i dont know

Donna

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From: arlmar@...

Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:52:07 -0500

Subject: Re: Cervical disc fusion surgery

Donna, I also had neck fusion and found the muscle relaxor drug

Robaxin (methocarbamol), 750 mg. every 8 hours helped enormously with the muscle

spasms. I did not have the problem you have described in my back. I would

definitely contact the surgeon and tell him what is happening. y surgery was

from the back of the neck. I surmise yours was from the front?

Arlene

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Cervical disc

fusion surgery

Hi Everyone,Well I had my fusion surgery last friday and lets just say that

thiswhole thing hasn't been easy at all!. I had C3/C4 C4/C5 fused. Iconstantly

feel like I have a lump in my throat and the muscle spasmsbetween my shoulder

blades are awful. My pain management group kept meon the same meds as I was

before surgery! I would have thought theycould have at least increased my short

acting medicine for awhile!Anyway, The last day or so I have been having this

weird sensation inmy lower back everytime I move my head or when I move around.

It feelslike my spinal cord is spasming?? I feel like I am having the EMGtestn

and I keep getting zapped in my lower back. Has anyone else hadthis post

surgery? I dont know if I should report it or not? Its areeeally annoying

sensation and keeps getting stronger. What do youall think?Donna in GA

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Not to but in here, but you have not used a heating pad since surgery have you?

 It is better to be hated for who you are than liked for who you aren't.

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Subject: RE: Cervical disc fusion surgery

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Date: Thursday, July 17, 2008, 9:02 PM

Hi Arlene,

Yes I had an anterior cervical disc fusion. I am on a muscle relaxant called

Zanaflex. I have been on this dose of 2mg for over a year. And I have been using

a heating pad almost continuously because that is what the neurosurgeon

recommended. I started out using ice and continued it until I noticed I got

better relief with the heat than with the cold..go figure. But those " spasms " i

am having in my lower back are really annoying to the point of being painful.

The neurosurgeon said my spinal cord was bruised from being so restricted, so

maybe that has somethin to do with it..i dont know

Donna

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Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:52:07 -0500

Subject: Re: Cervical disc fusion surgery

Donna, I also had neck fusion and found the muscle relaxor drug Robaxin

(methocarbamol) , 750 mg. every 8 hours helped enormously with the muscle

spasms. I did not have the problem you have described in my back. I would

definitely contact the surgeon and tell him what is happening. y surgery was

from the back of the neck. I surmise yours was from the front?

Arlene

..

Cervical disc fusion surgery

Hi Everyone,Well I had my fusion surgery last friday and lets just say that

thiswhole thing hasn't been easy at all!. I had C3/C4 C4/C5 fused. Iconstantly

feel like I have a lump in my throat and the muscle spasmsbetween my shoulder

blades are awful. My pain management group kept meon the same meds as I was

before surgery! I would have thought theycould have at least increased my short

acting medicine for awhile!Anyway, The last day or so I have been having this

weird sensation inmy lower back everytime I move my head or when I move around.

It feelslike my spinal cord is spasming?? I feel like I am having the EMGtestn

and I keep getting zapped in my lower back. Has anyone else hadthis post

surgery? I dont know if I should report it or not? Its areeeally annoying

sensation and keeps getting stronger. What do youall think?Donna in GA

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Hi, Donna...I had the exact same one, and yes, it is common to feel like there

is a lump in your throat. The muscle spasms are horrible, arent they? The more

time that passes,the more " normal " you will feel..I didnt think so, but it

did...and it also takes about a year to truly heal. And if that isnt bad

enough, they told me just today that I had 7...yes, 7..all of my lumbar spine,

and 1 sacral bulging,so, here I go again!! Lets keep in touch and pray for each

other...you WILL feel better soon....promise.....Vicki in Tx

Donna <luckyone40@...> wrote: Hi Everyone,

Well I had my fusion surgery last friday and lets just say that this

whole thing hasn't been easy at all!. I had C3/C4 C4/C5 fused. I

constantly feel like I have a lump in my throat and the muscle spasms

between my shoulder blades are awful. My pain management group kept me

on the same meds as I was before surgery! I would have thought they

could have at least increased my short acting medicine for awhile!

Anyway, The last day or so I have been having this weird sensation in

my lower back everytime I move my head or when I move around. It feels

like my spinal cord is spasming?? I feel like I am having the EMG

testn and I keep getting zapped in my lower back. Has anyone else had

this post surgery? I dont know if I should report it or not? Its a

reeeally annoying sensation and keeps getting stronger. What do you

all think?

Donna in GA

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Yes I have used a heating pad. My surgeon recommended it to help ease the muscle

spasms.

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Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 08:18:38 -0700

Subject: RE: Cervical disc fusion surgery

Not to but in here, but you have not used a heating pad since

surgery have you?

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Hi Vicki,

Yes these muscle spasms are wicked! I went to my pain management doc today and

he changed my zanaflex to Soma. I hope it works better. Gosh I am so sorry to

hear about your lumbar bulging discs. I will certainly say a prayer for you!

Thanks again *smiles*

Donna

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Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:53:50 -0700

Subject: Re: Cervical disc fusion surgery

Hi, Donna...I had the exact same one, and yes, it is common to feel

like there is a lump in your throat. The muscle spasms are horrible, arent

they? The more time that passes,the more " normal " you will feel..I didnt think

so, but it did...and it also takes about a year to truly heal. And if that isnt

bad enough, they told me just today that I had 7...yes, 7..all of my lumbar

spine, and 1 sacral bulging,so, here I go again!! Lets keep in touch and pray

for each other...you WILL feel better soon....promise.....Vicki in Tx

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I have had great luck by using the Soma 350mg 4 times a day. It is a

very old medication but however it helps me more than any other

muscle relaxer. My regimine is a Soma and 2 Lortab 10/500 every 4-6

hours.

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doc today and he changed my zanaflex to Soma. I hope it works better.

Gosh I am so sorry to hear about your lumbar bulging discs. I will

certainly say a prayer for you!

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spasms are horrible, arent they? The more time that passes,the

more " normal " you will feel..I didnt think so, but it did...and it

also takes about a year to truly heal. And if that isnt bad enough,

they told me just today that I had 7...yes, 7..all of my lumbar

spine, and 1 sacral bulging,so, here I go again!! Lets keep in touch

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Donna,

I don't know about you, but I had internal stitches with my surgery.

My Neurosurgeon and the nurses all said not to use heat and not to

even let a hot shower or hot bath water get on my incision for any

length of time as the sutures could dissolve causing complications.

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HI THIS IS PAM

I HAD A HEMILAMINECTOMY AT L1-S5 IN DECENMBER AND COULD NOT TAKE A

SHOWER OR BATH FOR 3 WEEKS.

I WAS HURT ON THE JOB AND HAD A DISC HERNIATION AT L1-S5 AND DISC

BULDGING AT L4-5 AND A ANNULAR TARE AT L3-4.

THE DOCTOR THAT DID MY SUGURY ONLY ADDRESSED THE DISC HERNIATION SO

NOW I HAVE ALL THESE ATHER PROBLEMS THAT I AM HAVING O GET ADDRESSED

I ALSO HAVE SEVERAL OTHER THINGS GOING ON IN THERE THAT ARE QUIT

PAINFUL.

I RECENTLY STARTED SEEING A PAIN MANAGEMENT DOCTOR AND GOT MY FIRST

INJECTION LAST WEEK. HELPED SOME FOR A COUPLE DAYS AND NOW AM HAVEING

SAME PAIN AGAIN.

I FEEL LIKE MY LIFE WILL NO LONGER BE THE SAME

I HAD TO QUIT MY JOB CAUSE I CAN NO LONGER DO THE WORK AND AM HAVING

TO LEARN TO LIVE WITH THE PAIN

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Pam,

How long has it been since your surgery. Depending on the elapse time and

your current condition there may be other PT you can do to help with your pain.

Also, what type of pain are you experiencing? Are you using ice packs? Have

you started any PT. Finally, you said L1-S5.. did you mean L5/S1?

Hang in there.. there is hope!

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houseboatpam@...: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:47:31 +0000Subject: Re:

Cervical disc fusion surgery

HI THIS IS PAMI HAD A HEMILAMINECTOMY AT L1-S5 IN DECENMBER AND COULD NOT TAKE A

SHOWER OR BATH FOR 3 WEEKS.I WAS HURT ON THE JOB AND HAD A DISC HERNIATION AT

L1-S5 AND DISC BULDGING AT L4-5 AND A ANNULAR TARE AT L3-4.THE DOCTOR THAT DID

MY SUGURY ONLY ADDRESSED THE DISC HERNIATION SO NOW I HAVE ALL THESE ATHER

PROBLEMS THAT I AM HAVING O GET ADDRESSED I ALSO HAVE SEVERAL OTHER THINGS GOING

ON IN THERE THAT ARE QUIT PAINFUL.I RECENTLY STARTED SEEING A PAIN MANAGEMENT

DOCTOR AND GOT MY FIRST INJECTION LAST WEEK. HELPED SOME FOR A COUPLE DAYS AND

NOW AM HAVEING SAME PAIN AGAIN.I FEEL LIKE MY LIFE WILL NO LONGER BE THE SAMEI

HAD TO QUIT MY JOB CAUSE I CAN NO LONGER DO THE WORK AND AM HAVING TO LEARN TO

LIVE WITH THE PAIN-- In spinal problems ,

" shaynal2003 " <shaynal2003@...> wrote:>> Donna,> I don't know about you, but I

had internal stitches with my surgery. > My Neurosurgeon and the nurses all said

not to use heat and not to > even let a hot shower or hot bath water get on my

incision for any > length of time as the sutures could dissolve causing

complications.> > Shayna> > >> > > > Yes I have used a heating pad. My

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Shayna,

Thanks for the heads up about your stitches; however, my neurosurgeon didn't use

dissolveable internal sutures, she used glue on mine so I didn't have to go back

for suture removal. Therefore, I was permitted to take hot showers and or use a

heating pad. Thanks though for your concern,

Donna

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Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:25:59 +0000

Subject: Re: Cervical disc fusion surgery

Donna,

I don't know about you, but I had internal stitches with my surgery.

My Neurosurgeon and the nurses all said not to use heat and not to

even let a hot shower or hot bath water get on my incision for any

length of time as the sutures could dissolve causing complications.

Shayna

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YES I MENT L5-S1 I HAD MY SUGURY DECEMBER 10,2007. I JUST COMPLETED MY 7TH P.T.

AND GOT MY FIRST INJECTION LAST THURSDAY. THEY HAVE BEEN USING HEAT ON ME NOT

ICE.

ALONG WITH THE BULGING DISC AND ANNULAR TARE I NOW HAVE FACET ARTHROPATHY AND

HYPERTROPHY OF THE LIGAMENTUM FLAVUM IN L1-2, L2-3 L3-4, WITH DISC DESICCATION

POSSIBLE PERMANANT NERVE DAMMAGE FROM HAVING THE HERNIATION PRESSING AGINST THE

SIATIC NERVE FOR 31/2 MONTHS BEFORE I FOUND A DOCTOR THAT NEW WHAT WAS WRONG

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Pam,

What type of nerve damage.. pain or numbness/weakness? I too may likely have

permanent damage. Most of mine is pain in my foot and numbness/weakness of my

calf/hamstring. I have heard that B-12 vitamin helps with nerve regeneration.

This was my third surgery and it took years for my foot not to hurt from the

first one back in 2000. So don't give up hope..it may take a while but the

nerve may eventually regenerate. I had my most recent surgery in May and I am

now swimming almost every day in the ocean.. It is a great workout for me and

allows me to get my endorphins up without risking further damage to my back.

Keep the faith.. we will all get better and learn patience along the way!

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YES I MENT L5-S1 I HAD MY SUGURY DECEMBER 10,2007. I JUST COMPLETED MY 7TH P.T.

AND GOT MY FIRST INJECTION LAST THURSDAY. THEY HAVE BEEN USING HEAT ON ME NOT

ICE.ALONG WITH THE BULGING DISC AND ANNULAR TARE I NOW HAVE FACET ARTHROPATHY

AND HYPERTROPHY OF THE LIGAMENTUM FLAVUM IN L1-2, L2-3 L3-4, WITH DISC

DESICCATION POSSIBLE PERMANANT NERVE DAMMAGE FROM HAVING THE HERNIATION PRESSING

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i have weakness of the left leg and numbness of the foot also my butt hurts all

the time.i take vit. b everyday and the doctor has me on meds for the nerve. he

has me on a pretty strong dose of 3 pain pills along with a musel relaxer.

nights and the mornings are the worst for me

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Pam,

It sounds like we have very similar symptoms. I had to stop taking B-12

since I now am dealing with GERD (Acid Reflux) although I heard about a B-12 you

can take under your tongue. It feels like there is a rock in my back pocket

when I sit down as well as in the arch of my foot when I walk. Much of my heel

and outside of my foot is numb. Most of my weakness is in my calf muscle but

every day I work at strengthening it. On a 1 to 10 I would say the pain I feel

is a 4 hence I can tolerate it without pain meds at least for now. After my

herniation much of my leg was numb so in a way I prefer pain to that much

numbness because at least I know the nerves are " firing " . I also have pain on

the top of my foot.. it feels like it is burned. I tried some of the Neurotin

type drugs but they slowed my brain too much so I decided against them. I am

still hopeful that I will get back more feeling in a year. This is definitely

teaching me patience!

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i have weakness of the left leg and numbness of the foot also my butt hurts all

the time.i take vit. b everyday and the doctor has me on meds for the nerve. he

has me on a pretty strong dose of 3 pain pills along with a musel relaxer.

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I had the rock feeling in my underwear and under my foot. My butt thing was

a pilonidal cyst and my foot as a oh my gosh I cant remember the name but it

was a tumor between the second and third toe on t,,,it's a mortons

neuroma...

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Pam,

It sounds like we have very similar symptoms. I had to stop taking B-12

since I now am dealing with GERD (Acid Reflux) although I heard about a B-12

you can take under your tongue. It feels like there is a rock in my back

pocket when I sit down as well as in the arch of my foot when I walk. Much

of my heel and outside of my foot is numb. Most of my weakness is in my calf

muscle but every day I work at strengthening it. On a 1 to 10 I would say

the pain I feel is a 4 hence I can tolerate it without pain meds at least

for now. After my herniation much of my leg was numb so in a way I prefer

pain to that much numbness because at least I know the nerves are " firing " .

I also have pain on the top of my foot.. it feels like it is burned. I tried

some of the Neurotin type drugs but they slowed my brain too much so I

decided against them. I am still hopeful that I will get back more feeling

in a year. This is definitely teaching me patience!

How did your accident happen?

-

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: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:23:38 -0700Subject: Re:

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i have weakness of the left leg and numbness of the foot also my butt hurts

all the time.i take vit. b everyday and the doctor has me on meds for the

nerve. he has me on a pretty strong dose of 3 pain pills along with a musel

relaxer. nights and the mornings are the worst for me RE:

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Has anyone had a Discogram?

The test where they inject the disc to try to reproduce the pain?

If so can anyone remember how many days it puts you out of commision?

Im supposed to have one thursday and Im just so afraid it will aggravate my

already bad symptoms.

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I lived on lake mead at a resort. I took care of the houseboat rental fleet. Was

docking a 70ft houseboat in heavy winds that were aginst me. I felt it happen

but could not let go of the boat as i was the only one securing it. Next morning

when i went to get out of bed i couldnt walk. I worked that way for 3 and 1/2

months before i fornd a doctor that new what was wrong with me. Of course

workerscomp denied me so now along with everything else I am having to fight

them in court. I went back to work to soon after the sugury and re aggervated

the injury and had to end up quiting my job cause I couldnt do the work any

more. Needless to say when i had to quit I also lost my place to live also. I am

just now getting the doctor to say I can go back to some kind of a loght duty

job. My husband has been greatr threw all this working long hours 6 days a week

and taking care of me at the same time.

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Hi . I'm terribly shy and don't post often, but I do read posts

every day. I'm also curious as to the discogram. I'm having one done

Friday. L4-S1. My doc said it would be quite a bit worse than the

facet injections or epidural injections that I had. She said she

would not send me home in terrible pain and after the procedure she

could sedate me if needed. The injections knocked me down for about 3

days afterward, so I'm expecting this will be longer. Sorry this

isn't very comforting. I'm quite scared about it myself. I'm scared

about the chance of the injected disks drying out. I'll keep ya in my

prayers.

> >> > > > Yes I have used a heating pad. My surgeon

recommended it to help > ease the muscle spasms.> > > > To:

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Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 08:18:38 -0700> > Subject: RE: [spinal

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not to

but in here, but you have not used a heating pad > since surgery have

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thanks for responding- same here with the epidurals,

in fact I had such a bad reaction to the prolotherapy that they tried by

injecting my SI joint that it put me in a terrible pain cycle from end of April

that Im just now working out of.

I am nervous as well and getting another consult with a new Neurosurgeon to see

if he thinks its necessary.

Best to you, sounds like you have a compassionate Doctor.

wendy

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Are they going to put u to sleep and then wake you up when they need to to

reproduce the pain? This is the way my doc does it.it is very uncomfortable

but helpful diagnostically to see what is causing your back pain.

Deb

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Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:37 AM

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Subject: Re: Cervical disc fusion surgery

Hi . I'm terribly shy and don't post often, but I do read posts

every day. I'm also curious as to the discogram. I'm having one done

Friday. L4-S1. My doc said it would be quite a bit worse than the

facet injections or epidural injections that I had. She said she

would not send me home in terrible pain and after the procedure she

could sedate me if needed. The injections knocked me down for about 3

days afterward, so I'm expecting this will be longer. Sorry this

isn't very comforting. I'm quite scared about it myself. I'm scared

about the chance of the injected disks drying out. I'll keep ya in my

prayers.

> >> > > > Yes I have used a heating pad. My surgeon

recommended it to help > ease the muscle spasms.> > > > To:

spinal problems

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Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 08:18:38 -0700> > Subject: RE: [spinal

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not to

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Hello,

I had a discogram many years ago. I believe they gave no sedation, maybe just a

little valium or something. It was uncomfortable yeas, but I don't remember it

being horrific and I did have a positive result. I don't think it was all that

bad to be honest. i went out shopping right after with my friend who drove me!

Of course my doc somehow made it through to mu dura and caused a spinal

headahce. I had one before after a myelogram and I told him I wouldn't do it if

there was anyway a discogram could cause a spinal headache. He assured me it

wasn't possible! Well that dummy made a BIG mistake and I got a nasty spinal

headahce which he refused to take responsibility for over the next week. It was

so painful, I have little memory of the details. All I remember was the

excruciating pain. I've given birth naturally three times and even that doesn't

come near to what this spinal headache was like! But again, this is so uncommon.

It's not supposed to happen. Bevause of the spinal headache I don't remember how

many day after I was sore.

It sounds like you've been having MBBs...Medial Branch Blocks...for your facet

injections, if they knock you down for three days. Even three  is quite

extensive. Do they seem to have trouble? Usually the MBBs hurt much worse than a

regular facet block. They are both used to treat facet pain.

I don't think the discogram should be worse than that. Also, do you have them

give you IV sedation for your facet injections? I didn't used to, but I gave in

and asked for it and it makes it so much easier to deal. Usually I wouldn't do

it for a regular facet injection, but I definitely would for the MBBs. You

should ask about it.

Also, if you get a good response from the facet injections, you should consider

trying denervation also called redio frequency lesioning/ablation or neurotomy.

This procedure is only done after you have had good pain relief from two

treatments from facet blocks. They put a needle into the Medial Branch nerve and

instead of injecting local and steroids, they " burn " that nerve so that it will

no longer tell your brain " ouch " . The relief from this can last anywhere from 2

to 10 months, depending on how long it takes your body to regrow the nerve. This

is a much better choice than surgery for facet pain.

Out of curiosity, why are you having your facets done? Have you had a fusion?

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Yes I get anesthesia for all of my injections.. I have had 2

denervations..i got a year from the first and 6 months from the second. Yes

I am in need of a fusion, I have had 2 laminectomies both at L4 l5 L5

S1. I am scared to have a fusion but I am again having back pain.. After

my last surgery in May of 2006 I have been completetly pain free up until

June of this year,

Deb RN

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Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 9:32 PM

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Hello,

I had a discogram many years ago. I believe they gave no sedation, maybe

just a little valium or something. It was uncomfortable yeas, but I don't

remember it being horrific and I did have a positive result. I don't think

it was all that bad to be honest. i went out shopping right after with my

friend who drove me!

Of course my doc somehow made it through to mu dura and caused a spinal

headahce. I had one before after a myelogram and I told him I wouldn't do it

if there was anyway a discogram could cause a spinal headache. He assured me

it wasn't possible! Well that dummy made a BIG mistake and I got a nasty

spinal headahce which he refused to take responsibility for over the next

week. It was so painful, I have little memory of the details. All I remember

was the excruciating pain. I've given birth naturally three times and even

that doesn't come near to what this spinal headache was like! But again,

this is so uncommon. It's not supposed to happen. Bevause of the spinal

headache I don't remember how many day after I was sore.

It sounds like you've been having MBBs...Medial Branch Blocks...for your

facet injections, if they knock you down for three days. Even three is

quite extensive. Do they seem to have trouble? Usually the MBBs hurt much

worse than a regular facet block. They are both used to treat facet pain.

I don't think the discogram should be worse than that. Also, do you have

them give you IV sedation for your facet injections? I didn't used to, but I

gave in and asked for it and it makes it so much easier to deal. Usually I

wouldn't do it for a regular facet injection, but I definitely would for the

MBBs. You should ask about it.

Also, if you get a good response from the facet injections, you should

consider trying denervation also called redio frequency lesioning/ablation

or neurotomy. This procedure is only done after you have had good pain

relief from two treatments from facet blocks. They put a needle into the

Medial Branch nerve and instead of injecting local and steroids, they " burn "

that nerve so that it will no longer tell your brain " ouch " . The relief from

this can last anywhere from 2 to 10 months, depending on how long it takes

your body to regrow the nerve. This is a much better choice than surgery for

facet pain.

Out of curiosity, why are you having your facets done? Have you had a

fusion?

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