Re: Re: Trigger Point Injection Question

[Guest guest]

Just got home from my L5-S1 Lumbar Spine Fusion with decompression today. Had a

rough time with pain control while I was in there but seem to be doing a little

better today. For anyone who has had the procedure. How long does the accute

hurting all the time feeling last? I have been improving with mobility and they

say I am ahead in walking about and sitting in chairs for small bits of

time...but the pain is not a whole lot better than it was the first day. Have

some burning pressure feleing down my left buttock and back of the upper leg.

Morings are better htan evenings and last evening I noticed that that pain in

the hip, buttock and back of the upper leg was feelig wose than the actual

surgical site. Is this normal? Will it go away?

" Without rabbits a rabbits foot would be nothing but a disembodied

hand full of unidentified toes. " -Pogo

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your reply - the pain is WORSE in the same area - but also radiating

across my tops of legs - down legs etc -  and also across the lower back right

across.

Workers Compensation would only pay for me to have this done first. (ie Trigger

point injection, or should I perhaps say my Doctor suggested this First.

 If this doesn't work (which it hasn't) they are going to do it by X-Ray - Do

you think I would only get worse than what Iam - or could I get better - it is

aching to sit - lay down , walk (try too) etc - my gosh bracing myself for

another night - today has been horrible - I have Soma, doesn't work (think they

might be MINTS!!!  also have Vicoden, which doesn't even touch the pain, just

makes me feel sick to the stomach. Have Flector Patch - no use - Oh gosh sorry

for sounding a PAIN!! IN THE B..

- my next appointment is not until 1/10 -

From: Me <ellijaygal@...>

Subject: Re: Trigger Point Injection Question

spinal problems

Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 1:54 PM

 

You say the pain is worse? Is it the same pain only worse or a different pain?

What is going on in that area that is causing you problems that you were willing

to let them do an injection?

FIND ANOTHER DOCTOR. They should NEVER EVER do injections without fluroscopy.

They could puncture your dura doing that crap and you could wind up with

arachnoiditis and that is something you do NOT want to have.

Good luck and I hope you feel better soon.

>

> Hi to all, and Happy New Year and may our health GET BETTER!!!???

>

> I have a question, I had a trigger point injection Dec 20 - in sacrum -coccyx

area(oops spelling).

> I had mild relief for about 3 hours. Then the pain returned.... does it

finally settle down?

> In the past week this pain I have had in this area following an injury has got

soooo BAD.

> Could it be remotely possible that this injection has made it worse? - or is

this common?

> The Doctor put the injection in at site of pain, then kinda moved the

injection around 360 degrees, while still in the spot.

> I am seeing this Doctor again in about 10 days and he said if it didn't worked

ie 12/20 then he would do it by guided X-Ray?.

> I am just so scared that if I go ahead with this option, I might be worse

again?

> Any thoughts to this and has anyone experienced this happening, it is getting

worse, I am talking nearly calling 911 - but what can they do.

>

> Thanks in advance - for any advice or thoughts

>

>

[Guest guest]

i think he missed the right spot. i had an injection that didnt work. i have to

fill out a chart of my pain levels so during my follow my doctor decided to do

another one. this time she hit the spot! yea. i just take naproxen to help the

little pain i have....and ice my back all the time.

and DAILY i listen to my meditation tape to help with my pain.

i listed this site before....PLEASE, PLEASE check this out.

all of you. i promise it helps....

belleruth naperstak has this site and her tapes are the best. she has other

people on her site, but they arent as good. she has THE most relaxing

voice...these are NOT hypnosis tapes for those of you afraid.

click on this site, then click on the pain icon.

www.healthjourneys.com

i sometimes listen to it more than once a day.

i got to sleep listening to it.

i will pray for you. the pain is so very challenging, I KNOW.

God Bless you,

Elonda

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From: susan millett <suemillie2001@...>

spinal problems

Sent: Sun, January 2, 2011 5:57:01 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Trigger Point Injection Question

 

Thanks for your reply - the pain is WORSE in the same area - but also radiating

across my tops of legs - down legs etc -  and also across the lower back right

across.

Workers Compensation would only pay for me to have this done first. (ie Trigger

point injection, or should I perhaps say my Doctor suggested this First.

 If this doesn't work (which it hasn't) they are going to do it by X-Ray - Do

you think I would only get worse than what Iam - or could I get better - it is

aching to sit - lay down , walk (try too) etc - my gosh bracing myself for

another night - today has been horrible - I have Soma, doesn't work (think they

might be MINTS!!!  also have Vicoden, which doesn't even touch the pain, just

makes me feel sick to the stomach. Have Flector Patch - no use - Oh gosh sorry

for sounding a PAIN!! IN THE B..

- my next appointment is not until 1/10 -

From: Me <ellijaygal@...>

Subject: Re: Trigger Point Injection Question

spinal problems

Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 1:54 PM

 

You say the pain is worse? Is it the same pain only worse or a different pain?

What is going on in that area that is causing you problems that you were willing

to let them do an injection?

FIND ANOTHER DOCTOR. They should NEVER EVER do injections without fluroscopy.

They could puncture your dura doing that crap and you could wind up with

arachnoiditis and that is something you do NOT want to have.

Good luck and I hope you feel better soon.

>

> Hi to all, and Happy New Year and may our health GET BETTER!!!???

>

> I have a question, I had a trigger point injection Dec 20 - in sacrum -coccyx

>area(oops spelling).

> I had mild relief for about 3 hours. Then the pain returned.... does it

finally

>settle down?

> In the past week this pain I have had in this area following an injury has got

>soooo BAD.

> Could it be remotely possible that this injection has made it worse? - or is

>this common?

> The Doctor put the injection in at site of pain, then kinda moved the

injection

>around 360 degrees, while still in the spot.

> I am seeing this Doctor again in about 10 days and he said if it didn't worked

>ie 12/20 then he would do it by guided X-Ray?.

> I am just so scared that if I go ahead with this option, I might be worse

>again?

> Any thoughts to this and has anyone experienced this happening, it is getting

>worse, I am talking nearly calling 911 - but what can they do.

>

> Thanks in advance - for any advice or thoughts

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your reply, that is what I have been diagnosed with SI Joint

Dysfunction. I am on my 2ND Doctor (only 1 time change) w/c/ sent me to another

Or tho Dr. But this Or tho Dr didn't do Injections, so they sent me to this

Doctor " who is pain management " sitting on my donut pillow, which does help a

little - while on the computer, guess it takes the pressure off. No I will not

let them do this again, as it is the most painful experience, since getting this

injection, thought I was bad before, but this is not pleasant at all. I am so

worried., as if this is the way I will have to live in this pain, I just don't

know how I will ever cope, might as well be bedridden - I am a positive person,

but after nearly 1 year of this it is wearing thin.  Gosh, thanks for this

group, it just lets me voice what I'm feeling, and I know others are a lot worse

off -  Doctor closed today, so will ring in the am. Thanks

From: Me <ellijaygal@...>

Subject: Re: Trigger Point Injection Question

spinal problems

Date: Monday, January 3, 2011, 3:25 PM

 

I would be on the phone with that doctor telling him how much worse you feel and

asking him what HE is going to do about it!!!! The only injection I have EVER

allowed anyone to do on me was a SI Joint Injection and it hurt me for days.

Needless to say I didn't let them do it again because when the pain subsided

from the injection I could feel no difference in the original pain.

Can you not get w/c to send you to another doctor since this doctor sticks

needles in you without even having the fluroscopy to see where he is putting it?

I'm sorry you are having such a hard time.

> >

> > Hi to all, and Happy New Year and may our health GET BETTER!!!???

> >

> > I have a question, I had a trigger point injection Dec 20 - in sacrum

-coccyx area(oops spelling).

> > I had mild relief for about 3 hours. Then the pain returned.... does it

finally settle down?

> > In the past week this pain I have had in this area following an injury has

got soooo BAD.

> > Could it be remotely possible that this injection has made it worse? - or is

this common?

> > The Doctor put the injection in at site of pain, then kinda moved the

injection around 360 degrees, while still in the spot.

> > I am seeing this Doctor again in about 10 days and he said if it didn't

worked ie 12/20 then he would do it by guided X-Ray?.

> > I am just so scared that if I go ahead with this option, I might be worse

again?

> > Any thoughts to this and has anyone experienced this happening, it is

getting worse, I am talking nearly calling 911 - but what can they do.

> >

> > Thanks in advance - for any advice or thoughts

> >

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

With workers comp,you have the right to go to any Dr you want to . I had the

injections and they didnt work . finally had radio frequency neuropathy which

lasted about a yr, finally ended up with  fusion .

 

From: Me <ellijaygal@...>

Subject: Re: Trigger Point Injection Question

spinal problems

Date: Monday, January 3, 2011, 3:25 PM

 

I would be on the phone with that doctor telling him how much worse you feel and

asking him what HE is going to do about it!!!! The only injection I have EVER

allowed anyone to do on me was a SI Joint Injection and it hurt me for days.

Needless to say I didn't let them do it again because when the pain subsided

from the injection I could feel no difference in the original pain.

Can you not get w/c to send you to another doctor since this doctor sticks

needles in you without even having the fluroscopy to see where he is putting it?

I'm sorry you are having such a hard time.

> >

> > Hi to all, and Happy New Year and may our health GET BETTER!!!???

> >

> > I have a question, I had a trigger point injection Dec 20 - in sacrum

-coccyx area(oops spelling).

> > I had mild relief for about 3 hours. Then the pain returned.... does it

finally settle down?

> > In the past week this pain I have had in this area following an injury has

got soooo BAD.

> > Could it be remotely possible that this injection has made it worse? - or is

this common?

> > The Doctor put the injection in at site of pain, then kinda moved the

injection around 360 degrees, while still in the spot.

> > I am seeing this Doctor again in about 10 days and he said if it didn't

worked ie 12/20 then he would do it by guided X-Ray?.

> > I am just so scared that if I go ahead with this option, I might be worse

again?

> > Any thoughts to this and has anyone experienced this happening, it is

getting worse, I am talking nearly calling 911 - but what can they do.

> >

> > Thanks in advance - for any advice or thoughts

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

This is not true in some states. In some states they have long lists of doctors

you can see and you can choose from that list but you can't see anyone you want

to. If things get worse like you should need surgery then you get to choose the

doctor to do the surgery. I have a friend in Rhode Island that is going through

this right now.

Janice

Re: Trigger Point Injection Question

spinal problems

Date: Monday, January 3, 2011, 3:25 PM

I would be on the phone with that doctor telling him how much worse you feel

and asking him what HE is going to do about it!!!! The only injection I have

EVER allowed anyone to do on me was a SI Joint Injection and it hurt me for

days. Needless to say I didn't let them do it again because when the pain

subsided from the injection I could feel no difference in the original pain.

Can you not get w/c to send you to another doctor since this doctor sticks

needles in you without even having the fluroscopy to see where he is putting it?

I'm sorry you are having such a hard time.

> >

> > Hi to all, and Happy New Year and may our health GET BETTER!!!???

> >

> > I have a question, I had a trigger point injection Dec 20 - in sacrum

-coccyx area(oops spelling).

> > I had mild relief for about 3 hours. Then the pain returned.... does it

finally settle down?

> > In the past week this pain I have had in this area following an injury has

got soooo BAD.

> > Could it be remotely possible that this injection has made it worse? - or

is this common?

> > The Doctor put the injection in at site of pain, then kinda moved the

injection around 360 degrees, while still in the spot.

> > I am seeing this Doctor again in about 10 days and he said if it didn't

worked ie 12/20 then he would do it by guided X-Ray?.

> > I am just so scared that if I go ahead with this option, I might be worse

again?

> > Any thoughts to this and has anyone experienced this happening, it is

getting worse, I am talking nearly calling 911 - but what can they do.

> >

> > Thanks in advance - for any advice or thoughts

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Has anyone ever said anything about a spinal disease called Arachnoiditis? It is

a disese of the spine. You need to look it up on the computer and see if you fit

the criteria for this disease it can cause great pain and in some cases it

causes pazalysis or numbness in certain areas of the lower part of the body. You

can get it in your neck area also.

Janice

Re: Trigger Point Injection Question

spinal problems

Date: Monday, January 3, 2011, 3:25 PM

I would be on the phone with that doctor telling him how much worse you feel

and asking him what HE is going to do about it!!!! The only injection I have

EVER allowed anyone to do on me was a SI Joint Injection and it hurt me for

days. Needless to say I didn't let them do it again because when the pain

subsided from the injection I could feel no difference in the original pain.

Can you not get w/c to send you to another doctor since this doctor sticks

needles in you without even having the fluroscopy to see where he is putting it?

I'm sorry you are having such a hard time.

> >

> > Hi to all, and Happy New Year and may our health GET BETTER!!!???

> >

> > I have a question, I had a trigger point injection Dec 20 - in sacrum

-coccyx area(oops spelling).

> > I had mild relief for about 3 hours. Then the pain returned.... does it

finally settle down?

> > In the past week this pain I have had in this area following an injury has

got soooo BAD.

> > Could it be remotely possible that this injection has made it worse? - or

is this common?

> > The Doctor put the injection in at site of pain, then kinda moved the

injection around 360 degrees, while still in the spot.

> > I am seeing this Doctor again in about 10 days and he said if it didn't

worked ie 12/20 then he would do it by guided X-Ray?.

> > I am just so scared that if I go ahead with this option, I might be worse

again?

> > Any thoughts to this and has anyone experienced this happening, it is

getting worse, I am talking nearly calling 911 - but what can they do.

> >

> > Thanks in advance - for any advice or thoughts

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In NYS you can see who you want to .

From: Me <ellijaygal@...>

Subject: Re: Trigger Point Injection Question

spinal problems

Date: Monday, January 3, 2011, 3:25 PM

I would be on the phone with that doctor telling him how much worse you feel and

asking him what HE is going to do about it!!!! The only injection I have EVER

allowed anyone to do on me was a SI Joint Injection and it hurt me for days.

Needless to say I didn't let them do it again because when the pain subsided

from the injection I could feel no difference in the original pain.

Can you not get w/c to send you to another doctor since this doctor sticks

needles in you without even having the fluroscopy to see where he is putting it?

I'm sorry you are having such a hard time.

> >

> > Hi to all, and Happy New Year and may our health GET BETTER!!!???

> >

> > I have a question, I had a trigger point injection Dec 20 - in sacrum

-coccyx area(oops spelling).

> > I had mild relief for about 3 hours. Then the pain returned.... does it

finally settle down?

> > In the past week this pain I have had in this area following an injury has

got soooo BAD.

> > Could it be remotely possible that this injection has made it worse? - or is

this common?

> > The Doctor put the injection in at site of pain, then kinda moved the

injection around 360 degrees, while still in the spot.

> > I am seeing this Doctor again in about 10 days and he said if it didn't

worked ie 12/20 then he would do it by guided X-Ray?.

> > I am just so scared that if I go ahead with this option, I might be worse

again?

> > Any thoughts to this and has anyone experienced this happening, it is

getting worse, I am talking nearly calling 911 - but what can they do.

> >

> > Thanks in advance - for any advice or thoughts

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

You need to see another doctor if your having problems especially at the L-5 S-1

area and you say your having the trouble at this site it could very well be the

disc that is out causing all your trouble. Have you had an MRI? if the same

doctor is reading the tests then please take the time and effort to get a second

opinion. Make sure you take the films with you to the doctors appointment don't

just take the report take both.

Janice

Re: Trigger Point Injection Question

I have just been diagnosed with si joint disfuntion as well and would really

like some more info about it. I do have herniated/bulging disks as well but the

doctor thinks the si joints are my main cause of all my pain, numbness, siatica

etc. It has got much much worse this winter.

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[Guest guest]

Janice is right. It varies by state, but most states have a clause that

allows you to seek a second opinion (and treatment) from a doctor not on

the panel after a certain time frame. This time frame varies by state

to state as does the clause itself.

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On 1/3/2011 6:38 PM, Smokie1952 wrote:

> In NYS you can see who you want to .

[Guest guest]

Beware, beware, beware!!! They have wanted to do this injection on me for long

time. They use it as a " diagnostic tool " . Read this page, I am sure there are

others like it http://www.eorthopod.com/content/sacroiliac-joint-injections

Yes, when they poke me in that area, it is somewhat painful, but I have a hard

time explaining to the Docs that it is NOT THE SOURCE OF MY PIAN !!! But still

they want to inject me. So far, I have said no. (I wonder how much they charge

for that.) They really do not listen when I try to describe my pain. My pain

clinic has opened a new office closer to where I live, so now I have a new

medical person I go see. AAAKKKK! The first session I had with him, he suggested

that some of my pain, muscle spavins, severe cramping, could be attributed to an

'electrolyte imbalance', and asked me if I drank " juice " ... OK... Was kinda

stumped on that one... what kind of juice?'''...(what would you think?). Then he

said ORANGE JUICE... thinking afterwood I should of said, " Gee, can you ferment

that into a liquor? " ) Totally ridiculous.

When my pain is bad, it feels like someone has reached into the flesh of my

lower back, grabbed my spinal cord, and is trying to yank it out. Hmmmm... ya

think orange juice is gonna fix that???

in NH

[Guest guest]

you need to see another pain doctor and on your very first visit make sure

you have a lot of questions for him/her then tell them how you feel about

certain things. Tell him/her that you are not interested in injections in any

form. They can and do cause major problems that can't be taken back.Ask what

he/she is thinking about doing to you that would help you. I always interview

the doctor before I let them touch me. This guy is a nut case. Orange juice will

not stop or help your problems.

Janice

Re: Re: Trigger Point Injection Question

Beware, beware, beware!!! They have wanted to do this injection on me for long

time. They use it as a " diagnostic tool " . Read this page, I am sure there are

others like it http://www.eorthopod.com/content/sacroiliac-joint-injections

Yes, when they poke me in that area, it is somewhat painful, but I have a hard

time explaining to the Docs that it is NOT THE SOURCE OF MY PIAN !!! But still

they want to inject me. So far, I have said no. (I wonder how much they charge

for that.) They really do not listen when I try to describe my pain. My pain

clinic has opened a new office closer to where I live, so now I have a new

medical person I go see. AAAKKKK! The first session I had with him, he suggested

that some of my pain, muscle spavins, severe cramping, could be attributed to an

'electrolyte imbalance', and asked me if I drank " juice " ... OK... Was kinda

stumped on that one... what kind of juice?'''...(what would you think?). Then he

said ORANGE JUICE... thinking afterwood I should of said, " Gee, can you ferment

that into a liquor? " ) Totally ridiculous.

When my pain is bad, it feels like someone has reached into the flesh of my

lower back, grabbed my spinal cord, and is trying to yank it out. Hmmmm... ya

think orange juice is gonna fix that???

in NH