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_Safe Use of Over-the-Counter Pain Relievers and Fever Reducers > Using

Acetaminophen and Nonsteroidal Anti-inflammatory Drugs.._

(http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/ResourcesForYou/Consumers/BuyingUsingMedicineSafely/Un\

derstandingOver-

the-CounterMedicines/SafeUseofOver-the-CounterPainRelieversandFeverReducers/

ucm164977.htm)

One problem seems to be that people who take, for example,

Vicodin/hydrocodone, don't understand that it contains acetaminophen (for now

anyway) and

then take it from other sources as well, thus hitting the dangerous levels.

In a message dated 2/10/2011 4:57:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

faraway1@... writes:

Stay away from Tylenol people it is killing people. They are finally

taking it off the market. Even the childrens tylenol is very dangerous. I have

a

daughter who suffers with migranes and when she was 3 the doctor set her

up on the exam table and with M & M's he taught her how to swallow pills so

she could take extra strength tylenol the adult strength he said it was safe

seh is now 37 and over the years she has taken a ton of the stuff. She has

not only stomach problems but her liver tests havn't been normal for many

years. She stopped taking Tylenol when seh was 19 but she wont' know the

full extent of the damage until she gets older. It is just my opinion but I do

not believe it is safe if you take it a lot.

Janice

Update on Lumbar Spine Fusion Recovery

MRI and Xray came back and the nerve pain I have been having is actually a

reaction to the BMP used in my fusion. Not really clear what that is but

from what I reasearched looked like it could be a bovine protiene that is

used in accelerating bone growth? Anyways I had been avoiding an injection

because I did not want to increase my risk of aracnoditis. Turns out he could

inject right into the inflamation by doing a facet joint injection. Was in

quite a bit of pain last night. Took maximum dose Tramadol, Ibuprofen and

Tylenol and still was in a ton of pain most of the night. Was the Capsazin

cream that finally worked. Was careful not to get it soaking into the

bandaid covering the site. For a little while I had abdominal pain that felt

like bladder stuff. Drank some cranberry juice and water and eventually it

went away. Today I feel much better. Still have my nerve pain though and

hoping that it goes away in a week as promised.

" Without rabbits a rabbits foot would be nothing but a

disembodied hand full of unidentified toes. " -Pogo

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Stay away from Tylenol people it is killing people. They are finally taking it

off the market. Even the childrens tylenol is very dangerous. I have a daughter

who suffers with migranes and when she was 3 the doctor set her up on the exam

table and with M & M's he taught her how to swallow pills so she could take extra

strength tylenol the adult strength he said it was safe seh is now 37 and over

the years she has taken a ton of the stuff. She has not only stomach problems

but her liver tests havn't been normal for many years. She stopped taking

Tylenol when seh was 19 but she wont' know the full extent of the damage until

she gets older. It is just my opinion but I do not believe it is safe if you

take it a lot.

Janice

Update on Lumbar Spine Fusion Recovery

MRI and Xray came back and the nerve pain I have been having is actually a

reaction to the BMP used in my fusion. Not really clear what that is but from

what I reasearched looked like it could be a bovine protiene that is used in

accelerating bone growth? Anyways I had been avoiding an injection because I did

not want to increase my risk of aracnoditis. Turns out he could inject right

into the inflamation by doing a facet joint injection. Was in quite a bit of

pain last night. Took maximum dose Tramadol, Ibuprofen and Tylenol and still was

in a ton of pain most of the night. Was the Capsazin cream that finally worked.

Was careful not to get it soaking into the bandaid covering the site. For a

little while I had abdominal pain that felt like bladder stuff. Drank some

cranberry juice and water and eventually it went away. Today I feel much better.

Still have my nerve pain though and hoping that it goes away in a week as

promised.

" Without rabbits a rabbits foot would be nothing but a disembodied

hand full of unidentified toes. " -Pogo

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This is exactly what I fear as my daughter gets older. Her blood work which is a

liver panel they call it has not been normal for many years. She took major

doses since seh was only 3 when the doctor assured me that she was safe the drug

wouldn't her. There was a U.S. Senator a few years back who took 2 extra

strength Tylenols for a headache and 3 days later was getting a liver

transplant. I just can't put a lot of faith into this drug that I have trusted

for many years.

Janice

Update on Lumbar Spine Fusion Recovery

MRI and Xray came back and the nerve pain I have been having is actually a

reaction to the BMP used in my fusion. Not really clear what that is but

from what I reasearched looked like it could be a bovine protiene that is

used in accelerating bone growth? Anyways I had been avoiding an injection

because I did not want to increase my risk of aracnoditis. Turns out he could

inject right into the inflamation by doing a facet joint injection. Was in

quite a bit of pain last night. Took maximum dose Tramadol, Ibuprofen and

Tylenol and still was in a ton of pain most of the night. Was the Capsazin

cream that finally worked. Was careful not to get it soaking into the

bandaid covering the site. For a little while I had abdominal pain that felt

like bladder stuff. Drank some cranberry juice and water and eventually it

went away. Today I feel much better. Still have my nerve pain though and

hoping that it goes away in a week as promised.

" Without rabbits a rabbits foot would be nothing but a

disembodied hand full of unidentified toes. " -Pogo

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I'm going to be honest here...I'm tired of all the scares on drugs that have

been proved to be used safely when used acording to label. If they really do

pull tylenol it will be a huge loss and I will become disabled because of my

migraines (I take Excedrine and it is the only thing besides injections that

work). If people would just read lables and not mix with alchohol or other

drugs like narcotics that usually also contain acetaminiphen then people would

not be dying or getting liver damage. This is how we lost over the counter cold

medicines for our children and I just now lost Maalox Total because people were

too stupid to read the label and see it was not the same ingrediants and Maalox

Advanced.

I assure you, I know how to take medications safely...have been doing so for

years and know how to read a PDR for interactions.

" Without rabbits a rabbits foot would be nothing but a disembodied

hand full of unidentified toes. " -Pogo

spinal problems

From: faraway1@...

Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 13:57:33 -0800

Subject: Re: Update on Lumbar Spine Fusion Recovery

Stay away from Tylenol people it is killing people. They are finally taking it

off the market. Even the childrens tylenol is very dangerous. I have a daughter

who suffers with migranes and when she was 3 the doctor set her up on the exam

table and with M & M's he taught her how to swallow pills so she could take extra

strength tylenol the adult strength he said it was safe seh is now 37 and over

the years she has taken a ton of the stuff. She has not only stomach problems

but her liver tests havn't been normal for many years. She stopped taking

Tylenol when seh was 19 but she wont' know the full extent of the damage until

she gets older. It is just my opinion but I do not believe it is safe if you

take it a lot.

Janice

Update on Lumbar Spine Fusion Recovery

MRI and Xray came back and the nerve pain I have been having is actually a

reaction to the BMP used in my fusion. Not really clear what that is but from

what I reasearched looked like it could be a bovine protiene that is used in

accelerating bone growth? Anyways I had been avoiding an injection because I did

not want to increase my risk of aracnoditis. Turns out he could inject right

into the inflamation by doing a facet joint injection. Was in quite a bit of

pain last night. Took maximum dose Tramadol, Ibuprofen and Tylenol and still was

in a ton of pain most of the night. Was the Capsazin cream that finally worked.

Was careful not to get it soaking into the bandaid covering the site. For a

little while I had abdominal pain that felt like bladder stuff. Drank some

cranberry juice and water and eventually it went away. Today I feel much better.

Still have my nerve pain though and hoping that it goes away in a week as

promised.

" Without rabbits a rabbits foot would be nothing but a disembodied

hand full of unidentified toes. " -Pogo

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If that is the case then they have been " taking it off the market " since

2009 and it has yet to disappear.

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On 2/10/2011 4:57 PM, Janice wrote:

> They are finally taking it off the market.

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I can assure you I never gave my daughter any more of the Tylenol than her

doctor prescribed. He can't be blamed either he didn't know at the time what

Tylenol could do to her. No one has migranes as bad as she does since she

was only 2 years old and she is taking Alleve a lot. No prescription drug

has ever helped her so she doesn't bother to ask the doctor for any more

meds. If you want to take it go right ahead but please don't presume they

are safe as the past year they have come out with many studies telling us

how dangerous they can be.

Janice

Update on Lumbar Spine Fusion Recovery

>

> MRI and Xray came back and the nerve pain I have been having is actually a

> reaction to the BMP used in my fusion. Not really clear what that is but

> from what I reasearched looked like it could be a bovine protiene that is

> used in accelerating bone growth? Anyways I had been avoiding an injection

> because I did not want to increase my risk of aracnoditis. Turns out he

> could inject right into the inflamation by doing a facet joint injection.

> Was in quite a bit of pain last night. Took maximum dose Tramadol,

> Ibuprofen and Tylenol and still was in a ton of pain most of the night.

> Was the Capsazin cream that finally worked. Was careful not to get it

> soaking into the bandaid covering the site. For a little while I had

> abdominal pain that felt like bladder stuff. Drank some cranberry juice

> and water and eventually it went away. Today I feel much better. Still

> have my nerve pain though and hoping that it goes away in a week as

> promised.

>

> " Without rabbits a rabbits foot would be nothing but a

> disembodied hand full of unidentified toes. " -Pogo

>

>

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Yeah, I know they keep coming up with new studies and information, yet they

still have even more dangerous drugs out there that they have not pulled yet

that bring the pharmacutical companies in money. I guess the best we can do is

be informed patients and make the best decisions we can. But it can be so

frustrating when they pull drugs that I've been using for years without

problems.

" Without rabbits a rabbits foot would be nothing but a disembodied

hand full of unidentified toes. " -Pogo

spinal problems

From: faraway1@...

Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:14:28 -0800

Subject: Re: Update on Lumbar Spine Fusion Recovery

I can assure you I never gave my daughter any more of the Tylenol than her

doctor prescribed. He can't be blamed either he didn't know at the time what

Tylenol could do to her. No one has migranes as bad as she does since she

was only 2 years old and she is taking Alleve a lot. No prescription drug

has ever helped her so she doesn't bother to ask the doctor for any more

meds. If you want to take it go right ahead but please don't presume they

are safe as the past year they have come out with many studies telling us

how dangerous they can be.

Janice

Update on Lumbar Spine Fusion Recovery

>

> MRI and Xray came back and the nerve pain I have been having is actually a

> reaction to the BMP used in my fusion. Not really clear what that is but

> from what I reasearched looked like it could be a bovine protiene that is

> used in accelerating bone growth? Anyways I had been avoiding an injection

> because I did not want to increase my risk of aracnoditis. Turns out he

> could inject right into the inflamation by doing a facet joint injection.

> Was in quite a bit of pain last night. Took maximum dose Tramadol,

> Ibuprofen and Tylenol and still was in a ton of pain most of the night.

> Was the Capsazin cream that finally worked. Was careful not to get it

> soaking into the bandaid covering the site. For a little while I had

> abdominal pain that felt like bladder stuff. Drank some cranberry juice

> and water and eventually it went away. Today I feel much better. Still

> have my nerve pain though and hoping that it goes away in a week as

> promised.

>

> " Without rabbits a rabbits foot would be nothing but a

> disembodied hand full of unidentified toes. " -Pogo

>

>

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