Re: Re: Virginia Mason Spine Clinic

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Sam do what I did. I wrote a very short message telling the doctor what my

specific problem was and I didn't mention any other problems. But I described my

injury to a tee. I wanted the doctor to focus on my problem not past problems or

things that had no bearing on my case.

Janice

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I trust most doctors about as far as I can throw them. I also have no qualms

about telling a stupid doctor he/she is a stupid doctor.

I chose Virginia Mason because, after interviewing them, they seem to be very

familiar with my specific type of injury. ly, I am pretty fed up with being

referred to the wrong orthopods with the wrong information, and I'm not going to

put up with it again.

I have a specific type of trauma injury, however the referring clinic sends me

out with such bizarre diagnoses as " non-specific back pain " (I " do " have

specific pain), or " multiple compression fractures "

(I only have " one " from a 1987 equestrian accident), or a bunch of other

incorrect, stupid, and/or moronic " diagnoses " which have absolutely NOTHING to

do with me or my specific trauma injury.

And let me tell you that is is soooooooo infuriating to go to a referral

appointment, trying to talk about my specific trauma injury, and then get

totally shut down as tho I don't know what I'm talking about, or I'm delusional,

or I'm lying and just trying to get attention.

Sam

(fractured L5 transverse process with ligament damage)

>

> You need to be very careful here. You need to make an appointment for an

interview you being the one doing the interview. Fill yourself with knowledge

about your condition and make a list of questions that you want to ask and do

not leave until everyone of them is answered. We all myself included have a

great misconception that we listen the doctor talks and we do what they say.

This is a myth that we have to rid ourselves of. It's our body we have the right

to know what is going on with it and we have a right to know all about the guy

with the scalpel in his hand. How many times has he seen your kind of injury

what is typically done to fix this or can it be fixed 100%. How many of these

surgeries has he/she done and were they all sucessful. If he were you what would

he do? I know it sounds a little silly asking the doctor all the questions

simply because he is an educated man/woman doesn't mean he/she has all the

answers. Before I let someone put me to sleep and do whatever they want with my

body I want to know more about him/her and what experience do they have and how

many sucessful procedures like the one he/she is going to perform on you.I have

been having back problems and surgeries since 1973 when I was only 23 I have

learned a lot over the years.

> Janice

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The right thing would be for you to stop the conversation and say to the doctor

" I have some issues I need to talk to you about so could I have your undivided

attention for a few minutes " ? If that doesn't work walk out and finda new

doctor.

Janice

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I do that, plus I bring visual aids. I do try to cover all the bases, but if

the doctor refuses to listen to what I have to say, or look at anything I bring

to the appointment, I'm s.o.l. My only recourse would be to walk out of the

appointment and possibly file a complaint.

Sam

(fractured L5 transverse process with ligament damage)

> >

> > You need to be very careful here. You need to make an appointment for an

interview you being the one doing the interview. Fill yourself with knowledge

about your condition and make a list of questions that you want to ask and do

not leave until everyone of them is answered. We all myself included have a

great misconception that we listen the doctor talks and we do what they say.

This is a myth that we have to rid ourselves of. It's our body we have the right

to know what is going on with it and we have a right to know all about the guy

with the scalpel in his hand. How many times has he seen your kind of injury

what is typically done to fix this or can it be fixed 100%. How many of these

surgeries has he/she done and were they all sucessful. If he were you what would

he do? I know it sounds a little silly asking the doctor all the questions

simply because he is an educated man/woman doesn't mean he/she has all the

answers. Before I let someone put me to sleep and do whatever they want with my

body I want to know more about him/her and what experience do they have and how

many sucessful procedures like the one he/she is going to perform on you.I have

been having back problems and surgeries since 1973 when I was only 23 I have

learned a lot over the years.

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[Guest guest]

I agree with Janice that when it comes to medical problems you have had for a

while and need continuing care for. If you are educated about your problem and

need a new doctor you need to interview them as if they are a potential

employee. Dont let them ask you anything. Make it clear it is an interview to

see if your philosophy's match. If they dont agree with you, argue with you,

try and interupt multiple times or you do not like the answerd to their

questions let them know they are not going to work out, ask if they know a

doctor who will and then walk out the door with out any emotional display. I

have yet to find a doctor who did not respond well to this aproach, though I

have had a few that did not pass the interview.

" Without rabbits a rabbits foot would be nothing but a disembodied

hand full of unidentified toes. " -Pogo

spinal problems

From: k9gang@...

Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 20:51:06 +0000

Subject: Re: Virginia Mason Spine Clinic

I trust most doctors about as far as I can throw them. I also have no qualms

about telling a stupid doctor he/she is a stupid doctor.

I chose Virginia Mason because, after interviewing them, they seem to be very

familiar with my specific type of injury. ly, I am pretty fed up with being

referred to the wrong orthopods with the wrong information, and I'm not going to

put up with it again.

I have a specific type of trauma injury, however the referring clinic sends me

out with such bizarre diagnoses as " non-specific back pain " (I " do " have

specific pain), or " multiple compression fractures "

(I only have " one " from a 1987 equestrian accident), or a bunch of other

incorrect, stupid, and/or moronic " diagnoses " which have absolutely NOTHING to

do with me or my specific trauma injury.

And let me tell you that is is soooooooo infuriating to go to a referral

appointment, trying to talk about my specific trauma injury, and then get

totally shut down as tho I don't know what I'm talking about, or I'm delusional,

or I'm lying and just trying to get attention.

Sam

(fractured L5 transverse process with ligament damage)

>

> You need to be very careful here. You need to make an appointment for an

interview you being the one doing the interview. Fill yourself with knowledge

about your condition and make a list of questions that you want to ask and do

not leave until everyone of them is answered. We all myself included have a

great misconception that we listen the doctor talks and we do what they say.

This is a myth that we have to rid ourselves of. It's our body we have the right

to know what is going on with it and we have a right to know all about the guy

with the scalpel in his hand. How many times has he seen your kind of injury

what is typically done to fix this or can it be fixed 100%. How many of these

surgeries has he/she done and were they all sucessful. If he were you what would

he do? I know it sounds a little silly asking the doctor all the questions

simply because he is an educated man/woman doesn't mean he/she has all the

answers. Before I let someone put me to sleep and do whatever they want with my

body I want to know more about him/her and what experience do they have and how

many sucessful procedures like the one he/she is going to perform on you.I have

been having back problems and surgeries since 1973 when I was only 23 I have

learned a lot over the years.

> Janice

[Guest guest]

The relationship between a patient and a doctor is almost sacred. After all

you are putting your life in this persons hand you have to have faith that

he/she is going to do the right thing all the time and everything he/she

does is in your best interest. If you don't know them and trust them

completely why go to this person at all. I have several health issues and I

have several doctors. In December I listened to a doctor I didn't know very

well but he worked in a world famous hospital so why should I worry. Well he

caused me to have my first heart attack. He took me off a medication that

should have never have happened. Thank God the heart attack was mild it was

my first one and hopefully my last one. I went against everything I have

preached to others for years. I will never make that mistake again. Please

if you only do one thing this year check out and interview every doctor you

see. Make sure you check state medical boards to see if he/she has had any

complaints filed against them. You cannot be to careful when it comes to

your life.

Janice

Re: Virginia Mason Spine Clinic

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> I trust most doctors about as far as I can throw them. I also have no

> qualms about telling a stupid doctor he/she is a stupid doctor.

>

> I chose Virginia Mason because, after interviewing them, they seem to be

> very familiar with my specific type of injury. ly, I am pretty fed up

> with being referred to the wrong orthopods with the wrong information, and

> I'm not going to put up with it again.

>

> I have a specific type of trauma injury, however the referring clinic

> sends me out with such bizarre diagnoses as " non-specific back pain " (I

> " do " have specific pain), or " multiple compression fractures "

> (I only have " one " from a 1987 equestrian accident), or a bunch of other

> incorrect, stupid, and/or moronic " diagnoses " which have absolutely

> NOTHING to do with me or my specific trauma injury.

>

> And let me tell you that is is soooooooo infuriating to go to a referral

> appointment, trying to talk about my specific trauma injury, and then get

> totally shut down as tho I don't know what I'm talking about, or I'm

> delusional, or I'm lying and just trying to get attention.

>

> Sam

> (fractured L5 transverse process with ligament damage)

>

>

>>

>> You need to be very careful here. You need to make an appointment for an

>> interview you being the one doing the interview. Fill yourself with

>> knowledge about your condition and make a list of questions that you want

>> to ask and do not leave until everyone of them is answered. We all myself

>> included have a great misconception that we listen the doctor talks and

>> we do what they say. This is a myth that we have to rid ourselves of.

>> It's our body we have the right to know what is going on with it and we

>> have a right to know all about the guy with the scalpel in his hand. How

>> many times has he seen your kind of injury what is typically done to fix

>> this or can it be fixed 100%. How many of these surgeries has he/she done

>> and were they all sucessful. If he were you what would he do? I know it

>> sounds a little silly asking the doctor all the questions simply because

>> he is an educated man/woman doesn't mean he/she has all the answers.

>> Before I let someone put me to sleep and do whatever they

> want with my body I want to know more about him/her and what experience do

> they have and how many sucessful procedures like the one he/she is going

> to perform on you.I have been having back problems and surgeries since

> 1973 when I was only 23 I have learned a lot over the years.

>> Janice

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[Guest guest]

Hi Sam,

Not saying this guy is the one for you. Just that he has earned my trust and

respect.The last time i went to him i was in so much pain i just wanted him to

operate thinking it could not get any worse. He went over all my tests and

explained the high risk of the surgery i would need and told me if it were him

he would not have the surgery right now. He talked me out of a surgery i am sure

a lot of dr's would have just done and hoped for the best.So if you want to look

him up he works out of Valley Medical Center in Renton washington. his name is

Dr H . If you go on the website of Valley medical center there is

a spot for look up a dr type in his name and it will bring up some of his info.

Virginia Mason is a great hospital to. They fixed a shattered foot for me in

high school and saved my life when i was in college. I hope you find a dr that

can help you and ease your pain. Best of luck and remember you are not alone.

Take care!  

From: Sam . <k9gang@...>

Subject: Re: Virginia Mason Spine Clinic

spinal problems

Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 12:52 PM

 

Tell me about Dr . Location? Clinic?

Sam

(fractured L5 transverse process with ligament damage)

>

> If you don't find what you are looking for there i have a great dr down the

road at valley dr name is Dr the only guy i will let touch my

back. He specialized in spine issues.

> Virginia Mason Spine Clinic

>

> Can anyone give me input on the Virginia Mason Spine Clinic in the Seattle,

Washington area?

>

> I phoned and spoke to someone there about my specific back injury and was told

they are familiar with it. So, I got a referral to them.

>

> Sam

> (fractured L5 transverse process with ligament damage)

>

[Guest guest]

congratulations Sam! whatever works. If you don't fight for yourself no one

else will.

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Congratulations Sam I hope it all works out for you.

Janice

Re: Virginia Mason Spine Clinic

I got some good news yesterday.

Apparently all my whining and concern about continuously not being referred

using my actual trauma injury info has worked. Yesterday the referral people in

my clinic faxed my actual trauma injury info to the Virginia Mason Spine clinic

in Seattle. <big cheesy grin>

Hopefully now I can get this 'thing' looked at and addressed.

But I'm not going to go out and polish up my motorcycle just yet, because I

don't want to jinx anything.

Sam

(fractured L5 transverse process with ligament damage)

>

> I trust most doctors about as far as I can throw them. I also have no qualms

about tell

[Guest guest]

Congratulations Sam I hope it all works out for you.

Janice

Re: Virginia Mason Spine Clinic

I got some good news yesterday.

Apparently all my whining and concern about continuously not being referred

using my actual trauma injury info has worked. Yesterday the referral people in

my clinic faxed my actual trauma injury info to the Virginia Mason Spine clinic

in Seattle. <big cheesy grin>

Hopefully now I can get this 'thing' looked at and addressed.

But I'm not going to go out and polish up my motorcycle just yet, because I

don't want to jinx anything.

Sam

(fractured L5 transverse process with ligament damage)

>

> I trust most doctors about as far as I can throw them. I also have no qualms

about telling a stupid doctor he/she is a stupid doctor.

>

> I chose Virginia Mason because, after interviewing them, they seem to be

very familiar with my specific type of injury. ly, I am pretty fed up with

being referred to the wrong orthopods with the wrong information, and I'm not

going to put up with it again.

>

> I have a specific type of trauma injury, however the referring clinic sends

me out with such bizarre diagnoses as " non-specific back pain " (I " do " have

specific pain), or " multiple compression fractures "

> (I only have " one " from a 1987 equestrian accident), or a bunch of other

incorrect, stupid, and/or moronic " diagnoses " which have absolutely NOTHING to

do with me or my specific trauma injury.

>

> And let me tell you that is is soooooooo infuriating to go to a referral

appointment, trying to talk about my specific trauma injury, and then get

totally shut down as tho I don't know what I'm talking about, or I'm delusional,

or I'm lying and just trying to get attention.

>

> Sam

> (fractured L5 transverse process with ligament damage)

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I always leave any mri with the cd in hand to prevent this type of porblem

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Well, I ended up finally getting imaging done 3 weeks after it was ordered. Why

so long? It was ordered by my doc in Seattle and imaging was done at a hospital

more local to me. However, I guess the folks up here needed to first learn how

to read. Ok, so the imaging was finally done and both the reports AND copies of

imaging were supposed to be sent to the Seattle doc. I requested in person and

doctor requested over the phone. I filled out paperwork to get the imaging sent.

3 weeks later only the reports had been sent. So, we both

re-requested imaging be sent. I did this by phone and in person.

Later was told imging was sent on April 18, but it still hasn't shown up. Today

I re-re-requested imaging to be sent. I wonder if it will ever show up Perhaps

the people in charge of sending imaging haven't learned how to do that yet. arg

I have a doc ready, willing, and able to read my imaging so we can proceed with

whatever treatment I may need.

This is pretty frustrating. On May 29, 2011, it will be exactly 24 months since

I aws injured. Word of advice: never get a back injury in Bellingham, Wa.

Sam :-o

(PNW great granny)

> >

> > I have an appointment at this clinic on March 3rd with Dr Friedman!

They will be focusing on my actual injury, so I'm told.

> > This is way cool if it's true.

> >

> > Sam

> > (fractured L5 transverse process with ligament damage)

> >

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Same here!

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Re: Virginia Mason Spine Clinic

Well, I ended up finally getting imaging done 3 weeks after it was ordered. Why

so long? It was ordered by my doc in Seattle and imaging was done at a hospital

more local to me. However, I guess the folks up here needed to first learn how

to read. Ok, so the imaging was finally done and both the reports AND copies of

imaging were supposed to be sent to the Seattle doc. I requested in person and

doctor requested over the phone. I filled out paperwork to get the imaging sent.

3 weeks later only the reports had been sent. So, we both

re-requested imaging be sent. I did this by phone and in person.

Later was told imging was sent on April 18, but it still hasn't shown up. Today

I re-re-requested imaging to be sent. I wonder if it will ever show up Perhaps

the people in charge of sending imaging haven't learned how to do that yet. arg

I have a doc ready, willing, and able to read my imaging so we can proceed with

whatever treatment I may need.

This is pretty frustrating. On May 29, 2011, it will be exactly 24 months since

I aws injured. Word of advice: never get a back injury in Bellingham, Wa.

Sam :-o

(PNW great granny)

> >

> > I have an appointment at this clinic on March 3rd with Dr Friedman!

They will be focusing on my actual injury, so I'm told.

> > This is way cool if it's true.

> >

> > Sam

> > (fractured L5 transverse process with ligament damage)

> >

[Guest guest]

I had an MRI a few months ago and it was on a disc that I took with me along

with the repor5t I picked them both up the second day after it was done.I

watched it befroe the doctor ever saw it.

Janice

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Yes, I usually bring my imaging with me to appointments, however I had the

latest imaging done after my doc appointment, which was 108 miles south of me in

Seattle.

If the dufuses up here can't get it in gear, I will go purchase my own copies

and send them myself.

Sam :-o

> > >

> > > I have an appointment at this clinic on March 3rd with Dr

Friedman! They will be focusing on my actual injury, so I'm told.

> > > This is way cool if it's true.

> > >

> > > Sam

> > > (fractured L5 transverse process with ligament damage)

> > >

>

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Why would they be reluctant to release your records to you. It is a law also

they cannot hold your records once you sign the release they have to send them

to you. I am glad that you finally got what belonged to you all along.

Janice

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And after I sent this to the group, I got a phone call from my Seattle doc's

office. After some more " nudging " , the images were finally sent electronically

to them. FINALLY! Monday my doc and I will at long last be able to discuss my

boo-boo's and if/how/when I can get 'fixed'...

Sam :-D

(PNW great granny)

> > > >

> > > > I have an appointment at this clinic on March 3rd with Dr

Friedman! They will be focusing on my actual injury, so I'm told.

> > > > This is way cool if it's true.

> > > >

> > > > Sam

> > > > (fractured L5 transverse process with ligament damage)

> > > >

> >

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