RE: New to Group....and how to sort out hip pain

[Guest guest]

Oh, I know I have both, right hip esp is worn, but there are also bone

spurs that are in an area where they can " twang " a nerve. Disk between L4-L5

is simply gone, and there is the usual 65-year old wear and tear, and

stenosis, and spond-whatever at L4-L5 as well.

I'm not volunteering for a fusion this side of a wheelchair, but the

question remains, how much pain relief would a hip replacement at this point

bring? I realize they are done all the time, but not on one of MY hips, and

it's a lot of surgery to jump at just to see how much it " might " help with

pain. There is classic " worn out hip " groin pain, but also serious inner

thigh nerve pain, which feels like classic sciatic pain, only in a different

area.

In a message dated 4/3/2011 5:12:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

karenmcnulty@... writes:

Hi Everyone...my name is and I have had a resurface on my right hip

six years ago...i can help you sort out your hip pain from back. First step

would be just to get a simple xray of your hip. It will tell you

immediately if you have a hip problem. Most docs assume if you have back

problems

that this is what is causing the hip

[Guest guest]

Well I'd hate to have it done only to learn " Gosh, I guess most of the

pain IS from your back, soprry! "

In a message dated 4/3/2011 6:37:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

christina_bunny@... writes:

My mom is considering a hip replacement right now (the degeneration in

both back and hips runs in my family). The two other relatives I know who

have had them both tell me they wish they had done it years ago. But of

course when the time comes that I may be making that decision I would still

find

it daunting to make...just as the decision for fusion was. Best of luck

on your decision.

" Without rabbits a rabbits foot would be nothing but a

disembodied hand full of unidentified toes. " -Pogo

spinal problems

From: jarcher107@...

Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 17:37:13 -0400

Subject: Re: New to Group....and how to sort

out hip pain

Oh, I know I have both, right hip esp is worn, but there are also bone

spurs that are in an area where they can " twang " a nerve. Disk between

L4-L5

is simply gone, and there is the usual 65-year old wear and tear, and

stenosis, and spond-whatever at L4-L5 as well.

I'm not volunteering for a fusion this side of a wheelchair, but the

question remains, how much pain relief would a hip replacement at this

point

bring? I realize they are done all the time, but not on one of MY hips,

and

it's a lot of surgery to jump at just to see how much it " might " help with

pain. There is classic " worn out hip " groin pain, but also serious inner

thigh nerve pain, which feels like classic sciatic pain, only in a

different

area.

In a message dated 4/3/2011 5:12:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

karenmcnulty@... writes:

Hi Everyone...my name is and I have had a resurface on my right hip

six years ago...i can help you sort out your hip pain from back. First

step

would be just to get a simple xray of your hip. It will tell you

immediately if you have a hip problem. Most docs assume if you have back

problems

that this is what is causing the hip

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[Guest guest]

Re: hip issues.  I have had bilateral hip arthroscopy previously for labral

tears.  Those typically would not show up on xray.  MRI arthrogram is the way

that it is typically diagnosed.  It presented, in me, when I did my pilates

exercises where I flexed then extended my leg and would hear/feel a clunk.  I

developed groin pain over time and I had some grade 4 arthritis, but was minimal

so I was able to fully recover.  Also, hip pain typically presents in the groin

(which surprised me). I then developed pain on the outside of my leg (near

trochanter) and that was bursitis with iliotibial band syndrome - also that does

not show on xray either.  Snapping of the ITB over the trochanter can sometimes

feel like your hip is dislocating.

 

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From: <karenmcnulty@...>

spinal problems

Sent: Sun, April 3, 2011 2:12:15 PM

Subject: New to Group....and how to sort out hip pain

 

Hi Everyone...my name is and I have had a resurface on my right hip six

years ago...i can help you sort out your hip pain from back. First step would be

just to get a simple xray of your hip. It will tell you immediately if you have

a hip problem. Most docs assume if you have back problems that this is what is

causing the hip ....not true. I have stenosis of both cervical and lumbar area

and spondy in both areas. I have had most of the problems in the lumbar area and

they blamced my back, which i knew was not the problem at the time..a simple

xray showed i had no cartliage left in my hip and it was bone on bone. Now that

i am pain free for six years the ugly truth about my back is back and i have

tingling and numbness down my arms into my fingers....the cervical spine has

fused by itself the C5 and C6 and the C7 almost but it slanted toward the spinal

cord....with stenois in my neck, i guess i have nerve root compression. I had a

cat scan done and have an appointment with the spinal/nerurosurgeon after the

pain management doc looked at the cat scan and went nuts! I have a whole

pharmacy of meds the pain management doc prescribed for me and none of the

muscle relaxants work...i am on 600 mg of motrin 4 times a day and that is it.

I have tingling and weakness in my right leg and have had that for 2 years which

i have ignored. PM referred me to spinal doc.

I am an old dancer and am in great shape....i do pilates, and see a pt

regularly. I have degenerative osteoarthritis of most of the bones in my body

due to years of dance from age 5 to 60....repitive motion gets you in the

end!!!!!

A neurosurgeon can sort out your problems for you so i am counting down days

before i see him.

The last thing they want to do is surgery and they are looking at my abiltiy to

walk and move my arms before they do anything....please send

feedback....negative positive makes no difference...we all have to walk the walk

and all information is helpful and thanks for the board....their i a board

called surface hippy that might help people with their hip problems...moderatior

is Brewster....

[Guest guest]

sorry...i did not mean to mislead anyone...i should have prefaced

my hip problem that it was due to osteoarthritis of the joint...of course

labral tears and soft tissue would not show up on an xray...i hope you are

free of hip

pain now!

-- New to Group....and how to sort out hip

pain

Hi Everyone...my name is and I have had a resurface on my right hip

six

years ago...i can help you sort out your hip pain from back. First step

would be

just to get a simple xray of your hip. It will tell you immediately if you

have

a hip problem. Most docs assume if you have back problems that this is what

is

causing the hip ....not true. I have stenosis of both cervical and lumbar

area

and spondy in both areas. I have had most of the problems in the lumbar area

and

they blamced my back, which i knew was not the problem at the time..a simple

xray showed i had no cartliage left in my hip and it was bone on bone. Now

that

i am pain free for six years the ugly truth about my back is back and i have

tingling and numbness down my arms into my fingers....the cervical spine has

fused by itself the C5 and C6 and the C7 almost but it slanted toward the

spinal

cord....with stenois in my neck, i guess i have nerve root compression. I

had a

cat scan done and have an appointment with the spinal/nerurosurgeon after

the

pain management doc looked at the cat scan and went nuts! I have a whole

pharmacy of meds the pain management doc prescribed for me and none of the

muscle relaxants work...i am on 600 mg of motrin 4 times a day and that is

it.

I have tingling and weakness in my right leg and have had that for 2 years

which

i have ignored. PM referred me to spinal doc.

I am an old dancer and am in great shape....i do pilates, and see a pt

regularly. I have degenerative osteoarthritis of most of the bones in my

body

due to years of dance from age 5 to 60....repitive motion gets you in the

end!!!!!

A neurosurgeon can sort out your problems for you so i am counting down days

before i see him.

The last thing they want to do is surgery and they are looking at my abiltiy

to

walk and move my arms before they do anything....please send

feedback....negative positive makes no difference...we all have to walk the

walk

and all information is helpful and thanks for the board....their i a

board

called surface hippy that might help people with their hip problems..

moderatior

is Brewster....

[Guest guest]

Yep, before I had hip surgery I never knew there was so many different hip

problems that could be treated short of total hip replacement.  It's quite

impressive what they can do with the hip to prevent the need for total hip

replacement (if caught early enough).

________________________________

From: McNulty <karenmcnulty@...>

spinal problems

Sent: Sun, April 3, 2011 2:32:04 PM

Subject: Re: New to Group....and how to sort out hip

pain

 

sorry...i did not mean to mislead anyone...i should have prefaced

my hip problem that it was due to osteoarthritis of the joint...of course

labral tears and soft tissue would not show up on an xray...i hope you are

free of hip

pain now!

-- New to Group....and how to sort out hip

pain

Hi Everyone...my name is and I have had a resurface on my right hip

six

years ago...i can help you sort out your hip pain from back. First step

would be

just to get a simple xray of your hip. It will tell you immediately if you

have

a hip problem. Most docs assume if you have back problems that this is what

is

causing the hip ....not true. I have stenosis of both cervical and lumbar

area

and spondy in both areas. I have had most of the problems in the lumbar area

and

they blamced my back, which i knew was not the problem at the time..a simple

xray showed i had no cartliage left in my hip and it was bone on bone. Now

that

i am pain free for six years the ugly truth about my back is back and i have

tingling and numbness down my arms into my fingers....the cervical spine has

fused by itself the C5 and C6 and the C7 almost but it slanted toward the

spinal

cord....with stenois in my neck, i guess i have nerve root compression. I

had a

cat scan done and have an appointment with the spinal/nerurosurgeon after

the

pain management doc looked at the cat scan and went nuts! I have a whole

pharmacy of meds the pain management doc prescribed for me and none of the

muscle relaxants work...i am on 600 mg of motrin 4 times a day and that is

it.

I have tingling and weakness in my right leg and have had that for 2 years

which

i have ignored. PM referred me to spinal doc.

I am an old dancer and am in great shape....i do pilates, and see a pt

regularly. I have degenerative osteoarthritis of most of the bones in my

body

due to years of dance from age 5 to 60....repitive motion gets you in the

end!!!!!

A neurosurgeon can sort out your problems for you so i am counting down days

before i see him.

The last thing they want to do is surgery and they are looking at my abiltiy

to

walk and move my arms before they do anything....please send

feedback....negative positive makes no difference...we all have to walk the

walk

and all information is helpful and thanks for the board....their i a

board

called surface hippy that might help people with their hip problems..

moderatior

is Brewster....

[Guest guest]

Do you know if the bone spurs are called Femoroacetabular Impingement?  

________________________________

From: " jarcher107@... " <jarcher107@...>

spinal problems

Sent: Sun, April 3, 2011 2:37:13 PM

Subject: Re: New to Group....and how to sort out hip

pain

 

Oh, I know I have both, right hip esp is worn, but there are also bone

spurs that are in an area where they can " twang " a nerve. Disk between L4-L5

is simply gone, and there is the usual 65-year old wear and tear, and

stenosis, and spond-whatever at L4-L5 as well.

I'm not volunteering for a fusion this side of a wheelchair, but the

question remains, how much pain relief would a hip replacement at this point

bring? I realize they are done all the time, but not on one of MY hips, and

it's a lot of surgery to jump at just to see how much it " might " help with

pain. There is classic " worn out hip " groin pain, but also serious inner

thigh nerve pain, which feels like classic sciatic pain, only in a different

area.

In a message dated 4/3/2011 5:12:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

karenmcnulty@... writes:

Hi Everyone...my name is and I have had a resurface on my right hip

six years ago...i can help you sort out your hip pain from back. First step

would be just to get a simple xray of your hip. It will tell you

immediately if you have a hip problem. Most docs assume if you have back

problems

that this is what is causing the hip

[Guest guest]

My mom is considering a hip replacement right now (the degeneration in both back

and hips runs in my family). The two other relatives I know who have had them

both tell me they wish they had done it years ago. But of course when the time

comes that I may be making that decision I would still find it daunting to

make...just as the decision for fusion was. Best of luck on your decision.

" Without rabbits a rabbits foot would be nothing but a disembodied

hand full of unidentified toes. " -Pogo

spinal problems

From: jarcher107@...

Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 17:37:13 -0400

Subject: Re: New to Group....and how to sort out hip

pain

Oh, I know I have both, right hip esp is worn, but there are also bone

spurs that are in an area where they can " twang " a nerve. Disk between L4-L5

is simply gone, and there is the usual 65-year old wear and tear, and

stenosis, and spond-whatever at L4-L5 as well.

I'm not volunteering for a fusion this side of a wheelchair, but the

question remains, how much pain relief would a hip replacement at this point

bring? I realize they are done all the time, but not on one of MY hips, and

it's a lot of surgery to jump at just to see how much it " might " help with

pain. There is classic " worn out hip " groin pain, but also serious inner

thigh nerve pain, which feels like classic sciatic pain, only in a different

area.

In a message dated 4/3/2011 5:12:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

karenmcnulty@... writes:

Hi Everyone...my name is and I have had a resurface on my right hip

six years ago...i can help you sort out your hip pain from back. First step

would be just to get a simple xray of your hip. It will tell you

immediately if you have a hip problem. Most docs assume if you have back

problems

that this is what is causing the hip

[Guest guest]

That was me... And I said " fusion " ..I've already had " minor " surgery

which did reduce w the most severe pain, where I was literally twisted up

like a pretzel and screaming uncontrollably till it passed. PHEW. Glad that

is gone.

I think most everyone is doing hips with an anterior approach now..I can't

imagine why anyone would do it the old way!

My back guy said most people my age (now 65, then 63) show some disk

issues and stenosis, plus bone spurs, and sometimes they cause pain, sometimes

they don't. He encouraged a " wait and see " approach till I told him I'd

been in pain six years..then he said " Well call whenever your' ready for

surgery. "

I just hate to go through a hip replacement only to find out most of the

pain is from my back...

In a message dated 4/4/2011 11:12:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

dreamcatcherdoxi@... writes:

And, like someone mentioned on this list, I will be avoiding back surgery

'this side of a wheelchair'.

[Guest guest]

I have had pain in most of my joints for the last ten years. My doctor ordered

x-rays of my hips which showed advanced osteoarthritis and a MRI of my back

which revealed bulging discs and stenosis, mostly in my lower back. My knees

were also hurting.

I decided to take one thing at a time and went for total hip replacements of

both hips. Fortunately I had the Anterior approach done and the pain was

minimal with no restrictions during recovery.

Now, a year later I have no pain in hips or knees and considerably less pain in

my back. It is thought that my incorrect way of walking due to pain was causing

a lot if not all of the pain in my other joints.

And, like someone mentioned on this list, I will be avoiding back surgery 'this

side of a wheelchair'.

Judy McG

>

> Well I'd hate to have it done only to learn " Gosh, I guess most of the

> pain IS from your back, soprry! "

>

>

> In a message dated 4/3/2011 6:37:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> christina_bunny@... writes:

>

>

> My mom is considering a hip replacement right now (the degeneration in

> both back and hips runs in my family). The two other relatives I know who

> have had them both tell me they wish they had done it years ago. But of

> course when the time comes that I may be making that decision I would still

find

> it daunting to make...just as the decision for fusion was. Best of luck

> on your decision.

>

> " Without rabbits a rabbits foot would be nothing but a

> disembodied hand full of unidentified toes. " -Pogo

>

>

>

>

>

> spinal problems

> From: jarcher107@...

> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 17:37:13 -0400

> Subject: Re: New to Group....and how to sort

> out hip pain

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Oh, I know I have both, right hip esp is worn, but there are also bone

> spurs that are in an area where they can " twang " a nerve. Disk between

> L4-L5

> is simply gone, and there is the usual 65-year old wear and tear, and

> stenosis, and spond-whatever at L4-L5 as well.

>

> I'm not volunteering for a fusion this side of a wheelchair, but the

> question remains, how much pain relief would a hip replacement at this

> point

> bring? I realize they are done all the time, but not on one of MY hips,

> and

> it's a lot of surgery to jump at just to see how much it " might " help with

> pain. There is classic " worn out hip " groin pain, but also serious inner

> thigh nerve pain, which feels like classic sciatic pain, only in a

> different

> area.

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 4/3/2011 5:12:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> karenmcnulty@... writes:

>

> Hi Everyone...my name is and I have had a resurface on my right hip

> six years ago...i can help you sort out your hip pain from back. First

> step

> would be just to get a simple xray of your hip. It will tell you

> immediately if you have a hip problem. Most docs assume if you have back

> problems

> that this is what is causing the hip

>

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>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

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>

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[Guest guest]

congratulations Judy! I had two dancer friends that had this done by Dr.

Matta here in LA on the Proflex Table....it is amazing way to go for THR. I

chose a

resurface with Dr. Amstutz. I was a i big risk because of being a

postmenopausal woman and rotten bone density, but i was able to dance for

5 more years and have great flexibility. Most of my back pain cleared up

along with the knees like yours. But age and osteo did catch up. I know my

gait is off and i walk wrong...i use my pelvis to walk and do not bend my

knees or lift the heel up first.I have never walked right so my illioposas

muscle

does all of the work that the glutes and the hamstrings should have done and

i am trying to relearn this....very hard.....i also try to strengthen the

muscles that have not worked in so long correctly. I have issues with the

lumbar spine but greater issues and numbness and tingling etc from the

cervical which has fused itself together almost with out the help of a

fusion....ah....arthritis is such a grand thing! Hope you do well in the

future, but i will consider back surgery is necessary....i went far too long

worried about the hip surgery, and it was a miracle and got my life back....

..

-- Re: New to Group....and how to sort

> out hip pain

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Oh, I know I have both, right hip esp is worn, but there are also bone

> spurs that are in an area where they can " twang " a nerve. Disk between

> L4-L5

> is simply gone, and there is the usual 65-year old wear and tear, and

> stenosis, and spond-whatever at L4-L5 as well.

>

> I'm not volunteering for a fusion this side of a wheelchair, but the

> question remains, how much pain relief would a hip replacement at this

> point

> bring? I realize they are done all the time, but not on one of MY hips,

> and

> it's a lot of surgery to jump at just to see how much it " might " help with

> pain. There is classic " worn out hip " groin pain, but also serious inner

> thigh nerve pain, which feels like classic sciatic pain, only in a

> different

> area.

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 4/3/2011 5:12:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> karenmcnulty@... writes:

>

> Hi Everyone...my name is and I have had a resurface on my right hip

> six years ago...i can help you sort out your hip pain from back. First

> step

> would be just to get a simple xray of your hip. It will tell you

> immediately if you have a hip problem. Most docs assume if you have back

> problems

> that this is what is causing the hip

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'll amend that then to " most doctors in ton SC use the anterior

approach and were actually somewhat startled by the thought anyone would even

have to ask. " And while the special table may make it easier, it's not a

requirement.

In a message dated 4/5/2011 9:37:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

dreamcatcherdoxi@... writes:

However, jarcher107 stated that he/she thought that now most people had

the Anterior approach hip replacements... nothing could be further from the

truth. The majority of doctors performing hip replacements use the

posterior approach as that is the way they were trained. The Anterior approach

requires a much different skill set and also special equipment as you

mentioned.

[Guest guest]

I too have two herniated discs and a bulging one with a fragment ----I have

been doing physical therapy --it has helped.

hips OK but my right foot has a dropped metarsal which I have had mucho

cortizone shots for and a bunion --yesterday my foot doctor wanted to operate

but I would be off my feet for quite a long time ---I just hate the thought

of that.

I also have osteoporosis and they want me to get reclast so I belong to a

group for that so far ---I hate doctors. Vicky

In a message dated 4/4/2011 11:27:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

jarcher107@... writes:

That was me... And I said " fusion " ..I've already had " minor " surgery

which did reduce w the most severe pain, where I was literally twisted up

like a pretzel and screaming uncontrollably till it passed. PHEW. Glad

that

is gone.

I think most everyone is doing hips with an anterior approach now..I can't

imagine why anyone would do it the old way!

My back guy said most people my age (now 65, then 63) show some disk

issues and stenosis, plus bone spurs, and sometimes they cause pain,

sometimes

they don't. He encouraged a " wait and see " approach till I told him I'd

been in pain six years..then he said " Well call whenever your' ready for

surgery. "

I just hate to go through a hip replacement only to find out most of the

pain is from my back...

In a message dated 4/4/2011 11:12:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

_dreamcatcherdoxi@..._ (mailto:dreamcatcherdoxi@...) writes:

And, like someone mentioned on this list, I will be avoiding back surgery

'this side of a wheelchair'.

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I'm glad to hear that your resurfacing was a success. Dr. Amstutz is one of the

leaders in hip resurfacing.

I did have my hip replacements by Dr. Matta, one week apart. Like you I

had considered resurfacing but I also had poor bone density and was nearing 70

so opted for the replacements.

However, jarcher107 stated that he/she thought that now most people had the

Anterior approach hip replacements... nothing could be further from the truth.

The majority of doctors performing hip replacements use the posterior approach

as that is the way they were trained. The Anterior approach requires a much

different skill set and also special equipment as you mentioned.

Judy McG

> >

> > Well I'd hate to have it done only to learn " Gosh, I guess most of the

> > pain IS from your back, soprry! "

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 4/3/2011 6:37:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> > christina_bunny@ writes:

> >

> >

> > My mom is considering a hip replacement right now (the degeneration in

> > both back and hips runs in my family). The two other relatives I know who

> > have had them both tell me they wish they had done it years ago. But of

> > course when the time comes that I may be making that decision I would

> still find

> > it daunting to make...just as the decision for fusion was. Best of luck

> > on your decision.

> >

> > " Without rabbits a rabbits foot would be nothing but a

> > disembodied hand full of unidentified toes. " -Pogo

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > spinal problems

> > From: jarcher107@

> > Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 17:37:13 -0400

> > Subject: Re: New to Group....and how to sort

> > out hip pain

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Oh, I know I have both, right hip esp is worn, but there are also bone

> > spurs that are in an area where they can " twang " a nerve. Disk between

> > L4-L5

> > is simply gone, and there is the usual 65-year old wear and tear, and

> > stenosis, and spond-whatever at L4-L5 as well.

> >

> > I'm not volunteering for a fusion this side of a wheelchair, but the

> > question remains, how much pain relief would a hip replacement at this

> > point

> > bring? I realize they are done all the time, but not on one of MY hips,

> > and

> > it's a lot of surgery to jump at just to see how much it " might " help with

>

> > pain. There is classic " worn out hip " groin pain, but also serious inner

> > thigh nerve pain, which feels like classic sciatic pain, only in a

> > different

> > area.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 4/3/2011 5:12:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> > karenmcnulty@ writes:

> >

> > Hi Everyone...my name is and I have had a resurface on my right hip

> > six years ago...i can help you sort out your hip pain from back. First

> > step

> > would be just to get a simple xray of your hip. It will tell you

> > immediately if you have a hip problem. Most docs assume if you have back

> > problems

> > that this is what is causing the hip

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I guess this is a Misery loves company thing.

We, meaning, myself, my spine doctor, my hip doctor, my rheumatologist (for

Rheumatoid Arthritis), and keeping my General Doc, Pain doc, and for good

measure since some of my pain is being caused by just trying to breathe, my Lung

Doctor. So, the team is trying to figure out where the pain is coming from, the

Hip joint or the spine (and then what part of the spine.) I had L4 to S1 fused,

with metal to keep everything together. It has done everything my Spine Doc

said it would and the Pain level on my lower back is MUCH reduced. Reduced to

the point where I can really tell when I am having pain in my Hip/Groin area.

Xrays show degeneration in my left hip, almost to the point of needing

replacement, and the right hip isn't there yet to quote the Hip Doc. He also

said, he thought the pain was being caused by my spine. So back to the MRI

machine, and even I could read/see on the screen where the new damage is on my

lumbar spine. So we (did I say my doctor are great at being a team) decided to

try a Epidermal injection for my spine, see if that made any difference, and

then do cortisone shots in both of my hips, and do MRI of my hips at the same

time. The spine injections helped some, not great, but a bit. The cortisone

shots to my hips, help greatly for a couple of days and the lidocaine is wearing

off now. I did notice that I just didn't feel anything on my left hip from the

shot, not the numbing needle going in or getting the cortisone shot to walking

later on. That is probably nerve damage from surgery to my left hip five years

ago. Probably also means that I would have pain if I could 'feel' it. lol

So, it's both my spine and the hip joints causing my pain. I also get to deal

with pain in the thoracic section of my back by just trying to breathe by a as

yet undiagnosed thing going on with my lungs. My lungs are working at 71

percent of capacity

I hope everyone who is dealing with these things get them sorted out and dealt

with. For me just being able to write out all this help a great deal. The

thing that really does get to me is that this is in addition to the day to day

chronic diseases I have.

So please think healing thoughts for each other,