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Matt--I will have to admit to being a " Born again Weight Watcher " !! I am 43,

3'5 " Diastrophic that doesn't get around real well. Two years ago I was at

my highest weight...sorry no confessions here, especially after seeing how

people 6 inches taller than I weigh...and was told that I needed to lose at

least 40 pounds. I had tried Weight Watchers many times over the past 8-10

years, with success but didn't stick with it. Two years later, and 25 pounds

down and I'm sticking with it. The point system works well, but like any

program, you really need to follow it and the weight will inevitably come off

and stay off. The hardest part for me is drinking lots of water, but that's

more from a convienence standpoint of using the bathroom being a hassle, but

I probably down 3 glasses of water in addition to my 2 cups of coffee and I

feel like I'm doing pretty well. I do water aerobics 3-5 times a week and

that helps. It's sensible eating, portion control, exercise and water...and

no deprivation. I highly recommend it.

Kate

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Hey Gang,

I hate to admit it ;) but, I too have joined Weight-Watchers with

satisfactory results. I've lost 6.5 lbs. and I never go hungry.

Although, I wish I could loose the weight faster, I'm loosing 1.5

lbs. per week on average. It's better to take it off slowly. I have

to agree with Kate, it does work if you stay with it. The 1,2,3

program is easy to follow and I go to the support meetings, which

gives me lots of encouragement. My leader is working with me to find

out my weight goal. The charts that they use are for average size

folk. Speaking of weight goals, anyone know what the weight range

should be for a male 3'6 " . I think there's an Achondroplasia chart

out there. Can someone send me one? And don't tell me I should weigh

as much as a first grader <grin>.

One doctor told me at a recent conference, " If you look fat, you

are. " That really hit home and that was one of my deciding factors to

do something about the weight issue. Plus, a friend of mine suggested

I go and check out the program with her. Mind you, she's lost 25 lbs.

So, I continue to loose weight and people have noticed. 6.5 lbs. is

noticeable on us LP's.

I really have to thank my wife Dawn, who has been supportive and

loving. Dieting is one of the hardest things to do. " You " have to be

the one in control of your destiny and I have taken control of my

eating habits. I have tried dieting on my own with no results. I like

Weight Watchers because I needed help, guidance and support. With

this program, you can eat anything as long as you stay within your

point system. I can have pizza and a beer if I want. Of course, I

don't eat the whole pizza and I drink light beer now.

Good luck!

Art Gil

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HI Art,

Wow, I am impressed Art. Good for you. I have done WW and it was so slow,

but I commend you for staying with it. I may have to go check it out. It

sounds like it has improved since I last did it. I need to get with it.

Thanks, and good luck.

Sincerely,

Patti

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A man consulted with me about exercise for fat loss who has been on

WW recently. He told me that the current WW doesn't rely on the

processed food products any more, and places a high emphasis on

unprocessed and less processed foods. Some other aspects of their

nutrition and exercise prescriptions sounded quite contemporary, as

well. He was under no illusions about the WW dogma being the

ultimate, but considered it a useful step towards a physique which

would enable him to become more athletic and independent in the

future. He reported fairly significant fat loss with them - 35 out

of the 70 he wanted to lose, I think.

Wilbanks

ville, FL

>

> <<I was wondering what the members of the Supertraining list thought

> of its properties i.e., nutritional content, health complications

> related to this diet if any, ability for the users to stick to the

> diet, cost etc.

>

> **** I am not familiar with what Weight Watchers recommends as far

> as caloric intake or macronutrient profiles, however I have noticed

> in the past that some of the prepared supermarket offerings have a

> lot of salt.

>

> Personally I think people could save themselves a great deal of

> money by simply following a sensible fitness diet, many of which are

> up on the Net at no charge.

>

> However, Weight Watchers (and other groups such as TOPS and

> Overeaters' Anonymous) do more than just provide diets. They

> provide psychological support and a place to go to share problems.

> Those who are trying desperately to lose body fat often need this as

> much or more than they need to be told what to eat. It's different

> than a personal trainer in a gym, even if the PT is a very good one.

>

> If this type of environment works for someone and the results are

> worthwhile, I see nothing wrong with it as long as they realize that

> they must make an internal permanent lifestyle change. Eventually,

> they should discard the crutch and be able to go it alone. OTH,

> possibly some of these people need a permanent crutch. If it means

> the difference between maintaining normal body fat levels or being

> obese, then the answer is an easy one.

>

> Rosemary Vernon, Editor

> www.dolfzine.com

> On-line Fitness

>

> Marina del Rey, CA

> IronRoses@e...

> http://www.chuckietechie.com

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A man consulted with me about exercise for fat loss who has been on

WW recently. He told me that the current WW doesn't rely on the

processed food products any more, and places a high emphasis on

unprocessed and less processed foods. Some other aspects of their

nutrition and exercise prescriptions sounded quite contemporary, as

well. He was under no illusions about the WW dogma being the

ultimate, but considered it a useful step towards a physique which

would enable him to become more athletic and independent in the

future. He reported fairly significant fat loss with them - 35 out

of the 70 he wanted to lose, I think.

Wilbanks

ville, FL

>

> <<I was wondering what the members of the Supertraining list thought

> of its properties i.e., nutritional content, health complications

> related to this diet if any, ability for the users to stick to the

> diet, cost etc.

>

> **** I am not familiar with what Weight Watchers recommends as far

> as caloric intake or macronutrient profiles, however I have noticed

> in the past that some of the prepared supermarket offerings have a

> lot of salt.

>

> Personally I think people could save themselves a great deal of

> money by simply following a sensible fitness diet, many of which are

> up on the Net at no charge.

>

> However, Weight Watchers (and other groups such as TOPS and

> Overeaters' Anonymous) do more than just provide diets. They

> provide psychological support and a place to go to share problems.

> Those who are trying desperately to lose body fat often need this as

> much or more than they need to be told what to eat. It's different

> than a personal trainer in a gym, even if the PT is a very good one.

>

> If this type of environment works for someone and the results are

> worthwhile, I see nothing wrong with it as long as they realize that

> they must make an internal permanent lifestyle change. Eventually,

> they should discard the crutch and be able to go it alone. OTH,

> possibly some of these people need a permanent crutch. If it means

> the difference between maintaining normal body fat levels or being

> obese, then the answer is an easy one.

>

> Rosemary Vernon, Editor

> www.dolfzine.com

> On-line Fitness

>

> Marina del Rey, CA

> IronRoses@e...

> http://www.chuckietechie.com

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A man consulted with me about exercise for fat loss who has been on

WW recently. He told me that the current WW doesn't rely on the

processed food products any more, and places a high emphasis on

unprocessed and less processed foods. Some other aspects of their

nutrition and exercise prescriptions sounded quite contemporary, as

well. He was under no illusions about the WW dogma being the

ultimate, but considered it a useful step towards a physique which

would enable him to become more athletic and independent in the

future. He reported fairly significant fat loss with them - 35 out

of the 70 he wanted to lose, I think.

Wilbanks

ville, FL

>

> <<I was wondering what the members of the Supertraining list thought

> of its properties i.e., nutritional content, health complications

> related to this diet if any, ability for the users to stick to the

> diet, cost etc.

>

> **** I am not familiar with what Weight Watchers recommends as far

> as caloric intake or macronutrient profiles, however I have noticed

> in the past that some of the prepared supermarket offerings have a

> lot of salt.

>

> Personally I think people could save themselves a great deal of

> money by simply following a sensible fitness diet, many of which are

> up on the Net at no charge.

>

> However, Weight Watchers (and other groups such as TOPS and

> Overeaters' Anonymous) do more than just provide diets. They

> provide psychological support and a place to go to share problems.

> Those who are trying desperately to lose body fat often need this as

> much or more than they need to be told what to eat. It's different

> than a personal trainer in a gym, even if the PT is a very good one.

>

> If this type of environment works for someone and the results are

> worthwhile, I see nothing wrong with it as long as they realize that

> they must make an internal permanent lifestyle change. Eventually,

> they should discard the crutch and be able to go it alone. OTH,

> possibly some of these people need a permanent crutch. If it means

> the difference between maintaining normal body fat levels or being

> obese, then the answer is an easy one.

>

> Rosemary Vernon, Editor

> www.dolfzine.com

> On-line Fitness

>

> Marina del Rey, CA

> IronRoses@e...

> http://www.chuckietechie.com

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WW points system is just a way to track calories. I couldn't do since

when I have too many choices I eat junk all day. If you use BFL foods

and count the points I think that my work for you. Then you will get to

the point that you know how many points each BFL meal is.

Good Luck

dawn

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I know exactly what you mean. I was home from work one day and

was noticing that half of the commercials are for different food establishments

and the other half are weight loss commercials!! I don't know about you guys but

I can't wait for the ability to get a little heavy and be able to pick and

choose what I want to eat instead of my E choosing for me.I have made a promise

to myself that if and when I can eat somewhat normally again a few extra pounds

are going to be the last thing I worry about.

Kim

in So. Cal

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>I was wondering if someone could explain in simple terms how the Weight

Watchers point system works.

This is how I understand it. Be forewarned - I've never been to a WW meeting

in my life and all the info I get on the program is from various email list

messages.

Like with the FoodMover counts exchanges, WW counts " points. " All foods are

assigned a certain number of points, but unlike the FoodMover or other

exchange programs, the points aren't broken down into food groups. One

" point " of butter is the same as one point of meat or one point of rice. I'm

sure WW has booklets the members get outlining how many points are in each

food. Their web site doesn't have any info at all.

Each person is assigned a number of allowable points each day based on

weight, like the FoodMover assigns a numbered calorie exchange card per day

based on current weight.

Many people start out loving the Points instead of the FoodMover because

they don't feel any guilt after spending most of their points on fats,

sweets and starchy foods and none on vegetables, but after a few weeks of

eating like this, they either start to balance their food groups better,

give up and go back to other better-balanced plans, like the FoodMover, or

give up altogether, blaming the food plan once again for a lack of weight

loss.

If I'm wrong in my guess, can a WW member please correct me so I know for

the future?

Sue in NJ

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LOL! I totally agree Lee! :)

Tracey

> My dear friend is doing weight watchers. He can have 30 points a

day -

> no idea how many calories that is - well, I decided to check my

> points for the day - I stopped counting when I got to 60 points.

> Praise GOd for the DS!!

>

> hugs, cindy lee

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LOL! I totally agree Lee! :)

Tracey

> My dear friend is doing weight watchers. He can have 30 points a

day -

> no idea how many calories that is - well, I decided to check my

> points for the day - I stopped counting when I got to 60 points.

> Praise GOd for the DS!!

>

> hugs, cindy lee

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Just wondering if anyone here who has SMA is on weight watchers or any kind

of weight loss program? I'd love to chat with you.

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> Just wondering if anyone here who has SMA is on weight watchers or any

> kind

> of weight loss program? I'd love to chat with you.

>

>

I've been unofficially doing Weight Watchers for 2 years. My weight loss has

been slow but consistent. I don't really know how much I lost because of

difficulties with scales and such, but my face has visibly thinned and my

clothes are looser.

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> Carolyn, do you have a long way to go? Just curious.

no... 20 pounds is all i want! and it is tough!!! i can workout all day

if i want to but food is my downfall :/

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> no... 20 pounds is all i want! and it is tough!!! i can

> workout all day

> if i want to but food is my downfall :/

i should add that i dont really go by pounds -- i also dont use a tape

measure anymore. both of those things are exercises in frustration for me.

i use my clothes as a measure of my size. because i use weights and am

normally on the muscular side (my old grandpa called me 'sturdy'...lol), the

scale drives me crazy. i want to be able to fit in clothes that i wore

pre-pregnancy. when that was possible, i weighed 20 pounds less than i do

now... so that is why i said that. i currently weigh 148.5 pounds and i was

125-130 pounds before. the only problem is that was 5 years ago and now im

40 and im not sure if that goal is realistic anymore. and i wasnt lifting

weights then either. so i dont really care how much weight i lose... i just

want to look better and feel good about myself (and it would be really great

if i could get my lower body to have less fat on it ;)

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Your goal seems realistic to me! I go by how my clothes fit too. I

can fit in jr's 15's and my goal is jr's 11's. In women's I'm

borderline 12/14 and would like to get to about an 8/10.

Everyone's posts make exercise so exciting! Thanks People!

-- In , " Cola " <pvisser@o...> wrote:

> > no... 20 pounds is all i want! and it is tough!!! i can

> > workout all day

> > if i want to but food is my downfall :/

>

> i should add that i dont really go by pounds -- i also dont use a

tape

> measure anymore. both of those things are exercises in

frustration for me.

> i use my clothes as a measure of my size. because i use weights

and am

> normally on the muscular side (my old grandpa called

me 'sturdy'...lol), the

> scale drives me crazy. i want to be able to fit in clothes that i

wore

> pre-pregnancy. when that was possible, i weighed 20 pounds less

than i do

> now... so that is why i said that. i currently weigh 148.5 pounds

and i was

> 125-130 pounds before. the only problem is that was 5 years ago

and now im

> 40 and im not sure if that goal is realistic anymore. and i wasnt

lifting

> weights then either. so i dont really care how much weight i

lose... i just

> want to look better and feel good about myself (and it would be

really great

> if i could get my lower body to have less fat on it ;)

> -carolyn.

>

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_jbair001@..._ (mailto:jbair001@...) writes: << I am

planning on joining Weight Watchers this Thursday. Was wondering if any of you

post-ops are doing this program, and how it's working out. I did

WW a few years ago, and did lose weight on the " points " program, but it will

be a little different now. Last time, I was on the nursing mom's program,

this time I'm not...anyway, let me know what your experiences have been -

thanks!>>

I, personally, disliked the " new " WW very much, but I joined online. I have

since switched to E-Diets and love it. Hopefully you will have better luck,

and I also think it's better in person but I couldn't fit that into my

lifestyle right now as I am caring for a terminally ill kitty and need to be

home as

much as possible.

I think any program that works for the individual and reinforces discipline

is a good thing.

Best wishes,

Patty H

MGB 8/25/03 Stsvl

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I am curious as to why you " disliked the new WW very much " .... can

you explain. I assume you are talking about the " core " plan as

opposed to the points plan.

in GA

>

>

> _jbair001@h..._ (mailto:jbair001@h...) writes: << I am

> planning on joining Weight Watchers this Thursday. Was wondering

if any of you

> post-ops are doing this program, and how it's working out. I did

> WW a few years ago, and did lose weight on the " points " program,

but it will

> be a little different now. Last time, I was on the nursing mom's

program,

> this time I'm not...anyway, let me know what your experiences have

been -

> thanks!>>

>

>

> I, personally, disliked the " new " WW very much, but I joined

online. I have

> since switched to E-Diets and love it. Hopefully you will have

better luck,

> and I also think it's better in person but I couldn't fit that into

my

> lifestyle right now as I am caring for a terminally ill kitty and

need to be home as

> much as possible.

>

> I think any program that works for the individual and reinforces

discipline

> is a good thing.

>

> Best wishes,

> Patty H

> MGB 8/25/03 Stsvl

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Just curious...what did you dislike about the new program? I've heard great

things about eDiets, so if I don't end up sticking with WW, I'll check out

eDiets...maybe I'll just do a different diet every week! ;)

Joanie

5/25/04

Drs. Walsh and Rutledge

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>

>Subject: Re: Weight Watchers

>Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 23:39:58 EST

>

>

>

>_jbair001@..._ (mailto:jbair001@...) writes: << I am

>planning on joining Weight Watchers this Thursday. Was wondering if any

>of you

>post-ops are doing this program, and how it's working out. I did

>WW a few years ago, and did lose weight on the " points " program, but it

>will

>be a little different now. Last time, I was on the nursing mom's program,

>this time I'm not...anyway, let me know what your experiences have been -

>thanks!>>

>

>

>I, personally, disliked the " new " WW very much, but I joined online. I

>have

>since switched to E-Diets and love it. Hopefully you will have better

>luck,

>and I also think it's better in person but I couldn't fit that into my

>lifestyle right now as I am caring for a terminally ill kitty and need to

>be home as

>much as possible.

>

>I think any program that works for the individual and reinforces discipline

>is a good thing.

>

>Best wishes,

>Patty H

>MGB 8/25/03 Stsvl

>

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>

>

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In a message dated 3/2/2005 1:25:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,

jwmson1@... writes:

I am curious as to why you " disliked the new WW very much " .... can you

explain. I assume you are talking about the " core " plan as opposed to the

points

plan.

Hi ,

I have been a WW advocate for decades but they began disappointing me when

they introduced the Points system because, in my opinion, it devalued sensible

nutrition and I often found myself hungry (pre-MGB). But even after my MGB,

if people REALLY counted every point they ate, they can blow the total very

effortlessly - especially if the things that feel okay in your tummy are higher

fat or calorie, like cheese.

I did fabulous with them when they had the exchange program, and to some

degree I still follow that.

I tried the core plan and it wasn't structured enough for me. I found myself

eating " just because " it was on the list. Personal issue, of course.

What works for some will not work for others. WW just didn't work for me,

but I do support anyone who is happy enough with their plans because I do like

their support system and spirit.

I wish you best of luck in your choice.

Always,

Patty H

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Very interesting - because I felt I too did better on the

old " checking off the box " system! The core plan is also way

to " broad " for me... too much room for error! Like you I tend to

have a little problem with the points system because some of the

things that are very good for my tummy and from a protein standpoint

count up really fast. I still believe in the WW process though...

in GA

>

>

> In a message dated 3/2/2005 1:25:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> jwmson1@a... writes:

>

> I am curious as to why you " disliked the new WW very much " .... can

you

> explain. I assume you are talking about the " core " plan as opposed

to the points

> plan.

>

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> I have been a WW advocate for decades but they began disappointing

me when

> they introduced the Points system because, in my opinion, it

devalued sensible

> nutrition and I often found myself hungry (pre-MGB). But even after

my MGB,

> if people REALLY counted every point they ate, they can blow the

total very

> effortlessly - especially if the things that feel okay in your

tummy are higher

> fat or calorie, like cheese.

>

> I did fabulous with them when they had the exchange program, and to

some

> degree I still follow that.

>

> I tried the core plan and it wasn't structured enough for me. I

found myself

> eating " just because " it was on the list. Personal issue, of

course.

>

> What works for some will not work for others. WW just didn't work

for me,

> but I do support anyone who is happy enough with their plans

because I do like

> their support system and spirit.

>

> I wish you best of luck in your choice.

> Always,

> Patty H

>

>

>

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Hi All:

What are everyone's thoughts on Weight Watchers? I am thinking of joining.

Would like to lose about 15 -20 pounds. I have previously mentioned my lack

of motivation when it comes to exercise. Well, same thing applies to eating

right. I don't what to do to get my butt in gear. How do those of you who

have used WW like it?

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Hi ,

I'm currently on WW but do their at home program. I lost about 35 lbs last year and found it very easy to follow and live with. I fell off the wagon so to speak last September and have struggled to get back on. My sister's marriage fell apart and I put myself on the backburner and didn't take care of myself very well because I was so busy helping her out.

It's a very doable program. It provides you with all the tools you need to lose and maintain weight loss. I love that it allows you some freedom but also gives you the guidelines for making good food choices.

Hope this helps you out,

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hi lisa -

i have lost 25 pounds following WW and exercising. it helped me to

realize what proper portions are and to also realize that i needed to

change some of the foods i was eating.

it sounds like you would benefit from weekly face2face weigh-ins for

accountability.

i didnt join the face2face club though.... nor did i join up online. i

did buy a points book on ebay and a friend sent me her points sliders and i

joined an egroup for support, advice and tools.

journaling is the first step so i suggest that you start now by writing

down what you did for exercise each day, how many cups of water you drank

(ww wants you to have 6 cups a day) and also you must write down all of the

food and drinks that you have each day. even just doing that, and not

assigning points values to the food yet, will help to make you

accountable. noone wants to write down that they ate 10 oreo cookies, or

whatever, right? and you can also see places where you can improve on food

choices and trends in over-eating, etc.

anyway, ww is also flexible... you are given a points limit and while it

is strongly suggested that you use those points in healthy food, it is also

possible to have treats and still stay within your points limit. also you

are given a bunch of extra 'flex' points each week that you can spend and

you earn a few more points by exercising. so there is some leeway in the

points limit and that is a good thing.

there is another WW plan besides 'flex', called 'core', which is for those

who do not want to count points. you eat freely from a list of approved

foods but are also given some flex points each week for those things that

are not on the core menu. you have to manage your own portion sizes on

this plan though so it might be better for an experienced weight watcher.

also i got a brownie mix at zehrs (in the health food section) and one

mixes it with plain no fat yogurt so it is a treat with a very low points

value. there are even instructions on how to make a single serving in the

microwave in one minute. so it is helpful to me... it is call NO PUDGE

brownie mix. throw a bit of ultra low fat cool whip on it and it is pretty

darned good for one point.

there are other products too that people on weight watchers rave about --

SKINNY COW ice cream (i havent tried this, too expensive) and LAUGHING COW

cheese (one point per pre-wrapped triangle) are a few others.

:*carolyn.

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