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Hi ,

Funny you should mention spinal decompression - my husband and I did look

into that - there is a doctor close to our home that does that treatment. We

did a lot of thinking between disc decompression and the prolotherapy.

Finally, we decided on the prolotherapy as we were told that my husband's discs

were moving because of the degeneration, and the movement caused pain. I felt

that the prolotherapy, which tightens the surrounding ligaments and tendons,

and would hopefully contain the movement, might have a better chance to effect

a permanent solution. Remember, my husband does not have scoliosis.

We live in the United States, in a suburb of Chicago. I was 47 years old at

the time of my first surgery, and 53 at the last one. I am fused from

T10-S1. My first two surgeries were combined anterior/posterior, and the last

two

were just posterior. My surgeon followed the existing scar for the

subsequent three posterior procedures. For having four incisions along the

same

scar, I think my scar looks pretty good! It gives me no problems at all. My

two

anterior incisions were in different areas. I believe, from what I know,

that incisions heal in the same time frame, whether it's a new area or not.

Sincerely,

Carol

In a message dated 8/22/2008 6:43:01 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

mariconda_l@... writes:

Hi Carol,

I'm curious to know more of the details of your scoliosis/surgery.

How old were you when you had the surgery? How much of your spine

is fused? Do you live in the States/Canada/is fused? Do you liv

subsequent surgeries, as you have had, what does that mean in terms

of scar tissue? Do they reopen a person along an existing scar if

they have to go into the same area? And would that heal as well as

if they were making an opening into non-scar tissue?

With regard to your husband and his back trouble, has he tried

spinal decompression? If not, that might be a consideration IF the

prolotherapy doesn't do the job.

Best regards,

-- In _Scoliosis Treatment@Scoliosis-MeSco_

(mailto:Scoliosis Treatment ) , carolkurt@.., ca

>

> Dear ,

> I will definitely keep you posted! I do not have a need for

prolotherapy -

> I'm doing well, thank you. Through the years I have had four

scoliosis

> surgeries. The last one was two 1/2 years ago, when my surgeon

removed all of my

> hardware. I am now feeling better than I have in years, so I

have no need

> for prolotherapy.

> I will let you know of my husband's progress - we are hopeful that

he will

> see results soon!

> Carol

>

>

> In a message dated 8/16/2008 8:24:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

> mariconda_l@ marico

>

>

>

>

> Dear Carol,

> I would love to hear about your husband's progress with

> prolotherapy. Pls. keep me posted. How are you doing with your

> scoliosis - no need for prolotherapy?

>

>

> --- In _Scoliosis Treatment@ --- I --

> (mailto:_Scoliosis Treatment@Scoliosis-MeSco_

(mailto:Scoliosis Treatment ) ) , carolkurt@, ca

> >

> > Hi ,

> > Funny you should ask about prolotherapy - my husband had his

first

> set of

> > injections two weeks ago. We are going back for the second set

> this coming

> > week. My husband does not have scoliosis - I do. He does have

> three bulging

> > discs, however, and that is what the prolotherapy is going to

> (hopefully!)

> > address. My husband has tried many different types of

treatments

> without success

> > - medication, physical therapy, chiropractic and naprapathic

> treatments,

> > epidurals. Nothing gave more than very temporary relief.

> > The purpose of the prolotherapy injections is to cause

> inflammation at the

> > injection sites. The inflammatory response to the injections

then

> stimulates

> > new collagen growth. The new collagen growth is supposed to

> strengthen the

> > ligaments and tendons surrounding the injured area. My husband

> received 90

> > injections! Yes, you read that correctly. The good news is that

> the whole

> > treatment only takes about five minutes. The doctor who did the

> injections is an

> > MD. So far, it is too early to tell if the treatments are going

> to work for

> > him. He will need 3-7 treatments, as he is a big man. The

> doctor also had

> > to make the solution stronger because of his size.

> > We are very hopeful that this treatment will finally end my

> husband's pain,

> > non-surgically. If you are interested, I will post again when

he

> is done

> > with the treatments and let you know if they were successful.

> > Carol from Long Grove

> >

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 8/15/2008 11:11:48 A.M. Central Daylight

Time,

> > mariconda_l@ mariconda_

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi Everyobody,

> > Just wondering if anyone on this group has any experience with

> prolotherapy.

> > I don't know too much about it yet, as I just discovered it. It

> involves

> > injections of a non-pharmaceutical solution and is supposed to

> help things

> > like DDD, amongst other things. Thanks in advance for any input

> anyone might

> > have.

> >

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Hi Carol,

Thanks for the information. I hope the prolotherapy is a huge success

for your husband and I look forward to getting an update on him. If

I start the treatments myself, I will be sure to let you know how

things go.

Best regards,

P.S. I am fused from T3-L1, live in the greater Toronto area, am 49

yrs old, and have only had the one surgery (in 1975 at the age of 16).

>

> Hi ,

>

> Funny you should mention spinal decompression - my husband and I did

look

> into that - there is a doctor close to our home that does that

treatment. We

> did a lot of thinking between disc decompression and the

prolotherapy.

> Finally, we decided on the prolotherapy as we were told that my

husband's discs

> were moving because of the degeneration, and the movement caused

pain. I felt

> that the prolotherapy, which tightens the surrounding ligaments and

tendons,

> and would hopefully contain the movement, might have a better

chance to effect

> a permanent solution. Remember, my husband does not have scoliosis.

>

> We live in the United States, in a suburb of Chicago. I was 47

years old at

> the time of my first surgery, and 53 at the last one. I am fused from

> T10-S1. My first two surgeries were combined anterior/posterior,

and the last two

> were just posterior. My surgeon followed the existing scar for the

> subsequent three posterior procedures. For having four incisions

along the same

> scar, I think my scar looks pretty good! It gives me no problems

at all. My two

> anterior incisions were in different areas. I believe, from what I

know,

> that incisions heal in the same time frame, whether it's a new area

or not.

> Sincerely,

> Carol

>

>

>

> In a message dated 8/22/2008 6:43:01 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

> mariconda_l@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> Hi Carol,

>

> I'm curious to know more of the details of your scoliosis/surgery.

> How old were you when you had the surgery? How much of your spine

> is fused? Do you live in the States/Canada/is fused? Do you liv

> subsequent surgeries, as you have had, what does that mean in terms

> of scar tissue? Do they reopen a person along an existing scar if

> they have to go into the same area? And would that heal as well as

> if they were making an opening into non-scar tissue?

>

> With regard to your husband and his back trouble, has he tried

> spinal decompression? If not, that might be a consideration IF the

> prolotherapy doesn't do the job.

> Best regards,

>

>

> -- In _Scoliosis Treatment@Scoliosis-MeSco_

> (mailto:Scoliosis Treatment ) , carolkurt@, ca

> >

> > Dear ,

> > I will definitely keep you posted! I do not have a need for

> prolotherapy -

> > I'm doing well, thank you. Through the years I have had four

> scoliosis

> > surgeries. The last one was two 1/2 years ago, when my surgeon

> removed all of my

> > hardware. I am now feeling better than I have in years, so I

> have no need

> > for prolotherapy.

> > I will let you know of my husband's progress - we are hopeful that

> he will

> > see results soon!

> > Carol

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 8/16/2008 8:24:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

> > mariconda_l@ marico

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Carol,

> > I would love to hear about your husband's progress with

> > prolotherapy. Pls. keep me posted. How are you doing with your

> > scoliosis - no need for prolotherapy?

> >

> >

> > --- In _Scoliosis Treatment@ --- I --

> > (mailto:_Scoliosis Treatment@Scoliosis-MeSco_

> (mailto:Scoliosis Treatment ) ) , carolkurt@, ca

> > >

> > > Hi ,

> > > Funny you should ask about prolotherapy - my husband had his

> first

> > set of

> > > injections two weeks ago. We are going back for the second set

> > this coming

> > > week. My husband does not have scoliosis - I do. He does have

> > three bulging

> > > discs, however, and that is what the prolotherapy is going to

> > (hopefully!)

> > > address. My husband has tried many different types of

> treatments

> > without success

> > > - medication, physical therapy, chiropractic and naprapathic

> > treatments,

> > > epidurals. Nothing gave more than very temporary relief.

> > > The purpose of the prolotherapy injections is to cause

> > inflammation at the

> > > injection sites. The inflammatory response to the injections

> then

> > stimulates

> > > new collagen growth. The new collagen growth is supposed to

> > strengthen the

> > > ligaments and tendons surrounding the injured area. My husband

> > received 90

> > > injections! Yes, you read that correctly. The good news is that

> > the whole

> > > treatment only takes about five minutes. The doctor who did the

> > injections is an

> > > MD. So far, it is too early to tell if the treatments are going

> > to work for

> > > him. He will need 3-7 treatments, as he is a big man. The

> > doctor also had

> > > to make the solution stronger because of his size.

> > > We are very hopeful that this treatment will finally end my

> > husband's pain,

> > > non-surgically. If you are interested, I will post again when

> he

> > is done

> > > with the treatments and let you know if they were successful.

> > > Carol from Long Grove

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 8/15/2008 11:11:48 A.M. Central Daylight

> Time,

> > > mariconda_l@ mariconda_

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi Everyobody,

> > > Just wondering if anyone on this group has any experience with

> > prolotherapy.

> > > I don't know too much about it yet, as I just discovered it. It

> > involves

> > > injections of a non-pharmaceutical solution and is supposed to

> > help things

> > > like DDD, amongst other things. Thanks in advance for any input

> > anyone might

> > > have.

> > >

> > >

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:   I had my surgery in Toronto also at the age of 16 but in 1967.  I have

had one surgery and still have two rods down my whole back.

Re: Prolotherapy

Hi Carol,

Thanks for the information. I hope the prolotherapy is a huge success

for your husband and I look forward to getting an update on him. If

I start the treatments myself, I will be sure to let you know how

things go..

Best regards,

P.S. I am fused from T3-L1, live in the greater Toronto area, am 49

yrs old, and have only had the one surgery (in 1975 at the age of 16).

>

> Hi ,

>

> Funny you should mention spinal decompression - my husband and I did

look

> into that - there is a doctor close to our home that does that

treatment. We

> did a lot of thinking between disc decompression and the

prolotherapy.

> Finally, we decided on the prolotherapy as we were told that my

husband's discs

> were moving because of the degeneration, and the movement caused

pain. I felt

> that the prolotherapy, which tightens the surrounding ligaments and

tendons,

> and would hopefully contain the movement, might have a better

chance to effect

> a permanent solution. Remember, my husband does not have scoliosis.

>

> We live in the United States, in a suburb of Chicago. I was 47

years old at

> the time of my first surgery, and 53 at the last one. I am fused from

> T10-S1. My first two surgeries were combined anterior/posterior,

and the last two

> were just posterior. My surgeon followed the existing scar for the

> subsequent three posterior procedures. For having four incisions

along the same

> scar, I think my scar looks pretty good! It gives me no problems

at all. My two

> anterior incisions were in different areas. I believe, from what I

know,

> that incisions heal in the same time frame, whether it's a new area

or not.

> Sincerely,

> Carol

>

>

>

> In a message dated 8/22/2008 6:43:01 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

> mariconda_l@ ... writes:

>

>

>

>

> Hi Carol,

>

> I'm curious to know more of the details of your scoliosis/surgery.

> How old were you when you had the surgery? How much of your spine

> is fused? Do you live in the States/Canada/ is fused? Do you liv

> subsequent surgeries, as you have had, what does that mean in terms

> of scar tissue? Do they reopen a person along an existing scar if

> they have to go into the same area? And would that heal as well as

> if they were making an opening into non-scar tissue?

>

> With regard to your husband and his back trouble, has he tried

> spinal decompression? If not, that might be a consideration IF the

> prolotherapy doesn't do the job.

> Best regards,

>

>

> -- In _Scoliosis Treatment@ Scoliosis- MeSco_

> (mailto:Scoliosis Treatment) , carolkurt@, ca

> >

> > Dear ,

> > I will definitely keep you posted! I do not have a need for

> prolotherapy -

> > I'm doing well, thank you. Through the years I have had four

> scoliosis

> > surgeries. The last one was two 1/2 years ago, when my surgeon

> removed all of my

> > hardware. I am now feeling better than I have in years, so I

> have no need

> > for prolotherapy.

> > I will let you know of my husband's progress - we are hopeful that

> he will

> > see results soon!

> > Carol

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 8/16/2008 8:24:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

> > mariconda_l@ marico

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Carol,

> > I would love to hear about your husband's progress with

> > prolotherapy. Pls. keep me posted. How are you doing with your

> > scoliosis - no need for prolotherapy?

> >

> >

> > --- In _Scoliosis Treatment@ --- I --

> > (mailto:_Scoliosis- Medical@Scoliosi s-MeSco_

> (mailto:Scoliosis Treatment) ) , carolkurt@, ca

> > >

> > > Hi ,

> > > Funny you should ask about prolotherapy - my husband had his

> first

> > set of

> > > injections two weeks ago. We are going back for the second set

> > this coming

> > > week. My husband does not have scoliosis - I do. He does have

> > three bulging

> > > discs, however, and that is what the prolotherapy is going to

> > (hopefully!)

> > > address. My husband has tried many different types of

> treatments

> > without success

> > > - medication, physical therapy, chiropractic and naprapathic

> > treatments,

> > > epidurals. Nothing gave more than very temporary relief.

> > > The purpose of the prolotherapy injections is to cause

> > inflammation at the

> > > injection sites. The inflammatory response to the injections

> then

> > stimulates

> > > new collagen growth. The new collagen growth is supposed to

> > strengthen the

> > > ligaments and tendons surrounding the injured area. My husband

> > received 90

> > > injections! Yes, you read that correctly. The good news is that

> > the whole

> > > treatment only takes about five minutes. The doctor who did the

> > injections is an

> > > MD. So far, it is too early to tell if the treatments are going

> > to work for

> > > him. He will need 3-7 treatments, as he is a big man. The

> > doctor also had

> > > to make the solution stronger because of his size.

> > > We are very hopeful that this treatment will finally end my

> > husband's pain,

> > > non-surgically. If you are interested, I will post again when

> he

> > is done

> > > with the treatments and let you know if they were successful.

> > > Carol from Long Grove

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 8/15/2008 11:11:48 A.M. Central Daylight

> Time,

> > > mariconda_l@ mariconda_

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi Everyobody,

> > > Just wondering if anyone on this group has any experience with

> > prolotherapy.

> > > I don't know too much about it yet, as I just discovered it. It

> > involves

> > > injections of a non-pharmaceutical solution and is supposed to

> > help things

> > > like DDD, amongst other things. Thanks in advance for any input

> > anyone might

> > > have.

> > >

> > >

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It is positive to hear that the two of you had only one surgery. Though having

it done young probably helped - I wish I had. Do you have any pain. Has your

curve been maintained all these years.

From: Durand <d.durand56@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Prolotherapy

Scoliosis Treatment

Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 10:29 AM

:   I had my surgery in Toronto also at the age of 16 but in 1967.  I have

had one surgery and still have two rods down my whole back.

Re: Prolotherapy

Hi Carol,

Thanks for the information. I hope the prolotherapy is a huge success

for your husband and I look forward to getting an update on him. If

I start the treatments myself, I will be sure to let you know how

things go..

Best regards,

P.S. I am fused from T3-L1, live in the greater Toronto area, am 49

yrs old, and have only had the one surgery (in 1975 at the age of 16).

>

> Hi ,

>

> Funny you should mention spinal decompression - my husband and I did

look

> into that - there is a doctor close to our home that does that

treatment. We

> did a lot of thinking between disc decompression and the

prolotherapy.

> Finally, we decided on the prolotherapy as we were told that my

husband's discs

> were moving because of the degeneration, and the movement caused

pain. I felt

> that the prolotherapy, which tightens the surrounding ligaments and

tendons,

> and would hopefully contain the movement, might have a better

chance to effect

> a permanent solution. Remember, my husband does not have scoliosis.

>

> We live in the United States, in a suburb of Chicago. I was 47

years old at

> the time of my first surgery, and 53 at the last one. I am fused from

> T10-S1. My first two surgeries were combined anterior/posterior,

and the last two

> were just posterior. My surgeon followed the existing scar for the

> subsequent three posterior procedures. For having four incisions

along the same

> scar, I think my scar looks pretty good! It gives me no problems

at all. My two

> anterior incisions were in different areas. I believe, from what I

know,

> that incisions heal in the same time frame, whether it's a new area

or not.

> Sincerely,

> Carol

>

>

>

> In a message dated 8/22/2008 6:43:01 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

> mariconda_l@ ... writes:

>

>

>

>

> Hi Carol,

>

> I'm curious to know more of the details of your scoliosis/surgery.

> How old were you when you had the surgery? How much of your spine

> is fused? Do you live in the States/Canada/ is fused? Do you liv

> subsequent surgeries, as you have had, what does that mean in terms

> of scar tissue? Do they reopen a person along an existing scar if

> they have to go into the same area? And would that heal as well as

> if they were making an opening into non-scar tissue?

>

> With regard to your husband and his back trouble, has he tried

> spinal decompression? If not, that might be a consideration IF the

> prolotherapy doesn't do the job.

> Best regards,

>

>

> -- In _Scoliosis Treatment@ Scoliosis- MeSco_

> (mailto:Scoliosis- Medical) , carolkurt@, ca

> >

> > Dear ,

> > I will definitely keep you posted! I do not have a need for

> prolotherapy -

> > I'm doing well, thank you. Through the years I have had four

> scoliosis

> > surgeries. The last one was two 1/2 years ago, when my surgeon

> removed all of my

> > hardware. I am now feeling better than I have in years, so I

> have no need

> > for prolotherapy.

> > I will let you know of my husband's progress - we are hopeful that

> he will

> > see results soon!

> > Carol

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 8/16/2008 8:24:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

> > mariconda_l@ marico

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Carol,

> > I would love to hear about your husband's progress with

> > prolotherapy. Pls. keep me posted. How are you doing with your

> > scoliosis - no need for prolotherapy?

> >

> >

> > --- In _Scoliosis Treatment@ --- I --

> > (mailto:_Scoliosis- Medical@Scoliosi s-MeSco_

> (mailto:Scoliosis- Medical) ) , carolkurt@, ca

> > >

> > > Hi ,

> > > Funny you should ask about prolotherapy - my husband had his

> first

> > set of

> > > injections two weeks ago. We are going back for the second set

> > this coming

> > > week. My husband does not have scoliosis - I do. He does have

> > three bulging

> > > discs, however, and that is what the prolotherapy is going to

> > (hopefully!)

> > > address. My husband has tried many different types of

> treatments

> > without success

> > > - medication, physical therapy, chiropractic and naprapathic

> > treatments,

> > > epidurals. Nothing gave more than very temporary relief.

> > > The purpose of the prolotherapy injections is to cause

> > inflammation at the

> > > injection sites. The inflammatory response to the injections

> then

> > stimulates

> > > new collagen growth. The new collagen growth is supposed to

> > strengthen the

> > > ligaments and tendons surrounding the injured area. My husband

> > received 90

> > > injections! Yes, you read that correctly. The good news is that

> > the whole

> > > treatment only takes about five minutes. The doctor who did the

> > injections is an

> > > MD. So far, it is too early to tell if the treatments are going

> > to work for

> > > him. He will need 3-7 treatments, as he is a big man. The

> > doctor also had

> > > to make the solution stronger because of his size.

> > > We are very hopeful that this treatment will finally end my

> > husband's pain,

> > > non-surgically. If you are interested, I will post again when

> he

> > is done

> > > with the treatments and let you know if they were successful.

> > > Carol from Long Grove

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 8/15/2008 11:11:48 A.M. Central Daylight

> Time,

> > > mariconda_l@ mariconda_

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi Everyobody,

> > > Just wondering if anyone on this group has any experience with

> > prolotherapy.

> > > I don't know too much about it yet, as I just discovered it. It

> > involves

> > > injections of a non-pharmaceutical solution and is supposed to

> > help things

> > > like DDD, amongst other things. Thanks in advance for any input

> > anyone might

> > > have.

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____

> > > Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and

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I have no pain whatsoever.   I do not even feel the rods.   My rods have not

even moved over the years even though I have had two successful pregnancies and

put on alot of weight with them.  My daughter was 7lb 11 oz and my son was 9lb

1oz.  My doctor does a yearly check on my back by xray and he also has my

orginal xrays from the hospital where I had the surgery.  I got them because my

family doctor needed to put the needle in my back to have the babies and he

needed to know where the rods were. 

Re: Prolotherapy

Hi Carol,

Thanks for the information. I hope the prolotherapy is a huge success

for your husband and I look forward to getting an update on him. If

I start the treatments myself, I will be sure to let you know how

things go..

Best regards,

P.S. I am fused from T3-L1, live in the greater Toronto area, am 49

yrs old, and have only had the one surgery (in 1975 at the age of 16).

>

> Hi ,

>

> Funny you should mention spinal decompression - my husband and I did

look

> into that - there is a doctor close to our home that does that

treatment. We

> did a lot of thinking between disc decompression and the

prolotherapy.

> Finally, we decided on the prolotherapy as we were told that my

husband's discs

> were moving because of the degeneration, and the movement caused

pain. I felt

> that the prolotherapy, which tightens the surrounding ligaments and

tendons,

> and would hopefully contain the movement, might have a better

chance to effect

> a permanent solution. Remember, my husband does not have scoliosis.

>

> We live in the United States, in a suburb of Chicago. I was 47

years old at

> the time of my first surgery, and 53 at the last one. I am fused from

> T10-S1. My first two surgeries were combined anterior/posterior,

and the last two

> were just posterior. My surgeon followed the existing scar for the

> subsequent three posterior procedures. For having four incisions

along the same

> scar, I think my scar looks pretty good! It gives me no problems

at all. My two

> anterior incisions were in different areas. I believe, from what I

know,

> that incisions heal in the same time frame, whether it's a new area

or not.

> Sincerely,

> Carol

>

>

>

> In a message dated 8/22/2008 6:43:01 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

> mariconda_l@ ... writes:

>

>

>

>

> Hi Carol,

>

> I'm curious to know more of the details of your scoliosis/surgery.

> How old were you when you had the surgery? How much of your spine

> is fused? Do you live in the States/Canada/ is fused? Do you liv

> subsequent surgeries, as you have had, what does that mean in terms

> of scar tissue? Do they reopen a person along an existing scar if

> they have to go into the same area? And would that heal as well as

> if they were making an opening into non-scar tissue?

>

> With regard to your husband and his back trouble, has he tried

> spinal decompression? If not, that might be a consideration IF the

> prolotherapy doesn't do the job.

> Best regards,

>

>

> -- In _Scoliosis Treatment@ Scoliosis- MeSco_

> (mailto:Scoliosis- Medical) , carolkurt@, ca

> >

> > Dear ,

> > I will definitely keep you posted! I do not have a need for

> prolotherapy -

> > I'm doing well, thank you. Through the years I have had four

> scoliosis

> > surgeries. The last one was two 1/2 years ago, when my surgeon

> removed all of my

> > hardware. I am now feeling better than I have in years, so I

> have no need

> > for prolotherapy.

> > I will let you know of my husband's progress - we are hopeful that

> he will

> > see results soon!

> > Carol

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 8/16/2008 8:24:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

> > mariconda_l@ marico

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Carol,

> > I would love to hear about your husband's progress with

> > prolotherapy. Pls. keep me posted. How are you doing with your

> > scoliosis - no need for prolotherapy?

> >

> >

> > --- In _Scoliosis Treatment@ --- I --

> > (mailto:_Scoliosis- Medical@Scoliosi s-MeSco_

> (mailto:Scoliosis- Medical) ) , carolkurt@, ca

> > >

> > > Hi ,

> > > Funny you should ask about prolotherapy - my husband had his

> first

> > set of

> > > injections two weeks ago. We are going back for the second set

> > this coming

> > > week. My husband does not have scoliosis - I do. He does have

> > three bulging

> > > discs, however, and that is what the prolotherapy is going to

> > (hopefully!)

> > > address. My husband has tried many different types of

> treatments

> > without success

> > > - medication, physical therapy, chiropractic and naprapathic

> > treatments,

> > > epidurals. Nothing gave more than very temporary relief.

> > > The purpose of the prolotherapy injections is to cause

> > inflammation at the

> > > injection sites. The inflammatory response to the injections

> then

> > stimulates

> > > new collagen growth. The new collagen growth is supposed to

> > strengthen the

> > > ligaments and tendons surrounding the injured area. My husband

> > received 90

> > > injections! Yes, you read that correctly. The good news is that

> > the whole

> > > treatment only takes about five minutes. The doctor who did the

> > injections is an

> > > MD. So far, it is too early to tell if the treatments are going

> > to work for

> > > him. He will need 3-7 treatments, as he is a big man. The

> > doctor also had

> > > to make the solution stronger because of his size.

> > > We are very hopeful that this treatment will finally end my

> > husband's pain,

> > > non-surgically. If you are interested, I will post again when

> he

> > is done

> > > with the treatments and let you know if they were successful.

> > > Carol from Long Grove

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 8/15/2008 11:11:48 A.M. Central Daylight

> Time,

> > > mariconda_l@ mariconda_

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi Everyobody,

> > > Just wondering if anyone on this group has any experience with

> > prolotherapy.

> > > I don't know too much about it yet, as I just discovered it. It

> > involves

> > > injections of a non-pharmaceutical solution and is supposed to

> > help things

> > > like DDD, amongst other things. Thanks in advance for any input

> > anyone might

> > > have.

> > >

> > >

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> > bookmark your

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Wow! Amazing success story. Good for you.  I hope to here more positive stories

like yours.  Are you limited in any way? Such as bending or lifting?

From: Durand <d.durand56@ . com>

Subject: Re: Re: Prolotherapy

Scoliosis Treatment

Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 10:29 AM

:   I had my surgery in Toronto also at the age of 16 but in 1967.  I have

had one surgery and still have two rods down my whole back.

Re: Prolotherapy

Hi Carol,

Thanks for the information. I hope the prolotherapy is a huge success

for your husband and I look forward to getting an update on him. If

I start the treatments myself, I will be sure to let you know how

things go..

Best regards,

P.S. I am fused from T3-L1, live in the greater Toronto area, am 49

yrs old, and have only had the one surgery (in 1975 at the age of 16).

>

> Hi ,

>

> Funny you should mention spinal decompression - my husband and I did

look

> into that - there is a doctor close to our home that does that

treatment. We

> did a lot of thinking between disc decompression and the

prolotherapy.

> Finally, we decided on the prolotherapy as we were told that my

husband's discs

> were moving because of the degeneration, and the movement caused

pain. I felt

> that the prolotherapy, which tightens the surrounding ligaments and

tendons,

> and would hopefully contain the movement, might have a better

chance to effect

> a permanent solution. Remember, my husband does not have scoliosis.

>

> We live in the United States, in a suburb of Chicago. I was 47

years old at

> the time of my first surgery, and 53 at the last one. I am fused from

> T10-S1. My first two surgeries were combined anterior/posterior,

and the last two

> were just posterior. My surgeon followed the existing scar for the

> subsequent three posterior procedures. For having four incisions

along the same

> scar, I think my scar looks pretty good! It gives me no problems

at all. My two

> anterior incisions were in different areas. I believe, from what I

know,

> that incisions heal in the same time frame, whether it's a new area

or not.

> Sincerely,

> Carol

>

>

>

> In a message dated 8/22/2008 6:43:01 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

> mariconda_l@ ... writes:

>

>

>

>

> Hi Carol,

>

> I'm curious to know more of the details of your scoliosis/surgery.

> How old were you when you had the surgery? How much of your spine

> is fused? Do you live in the States/Canada/ is fused? Do you liv

> subsequent surgeries, as you have had, what does that mean in terms

> of scar tissue? Do they reopen a person along an existing scar if

> they have to go into the same area? And would that heal as well as

> if they were making an opening into non-scar tissue?

>

> With regard to your husband and his back trouble, has he tried

> spinal decompression? If not, that might be a consideration IF the

> prolotherapy doesn't do the job.

> Best regards,

>

>

> -- In _Scoliosis Treatment@ Scoliosis- MeSco_

> (mailto:Scoliosis- Medical) , carolkurt@, ca

> >

> > Dear ,

> > I will definitely keep you posted! I do not have a need for

> prolotherapy -

> > I'm doing well, thank you. Through the years I have had four

> scoliosis

> > surgeries. The last one was two 1/2 years ago, when my surgeon

> removed all of my

> > hardware. I am now feeling better than I have in years, so I

> have no need

> > for prolotherapy.

> > I will let you know of my husband's progress - we are hopeful that

> he will

> > see results soon!

> > Carol

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 8/16/2008 8:24:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

> > mariconda_l@ marico

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Carol,

> > I would love to hear about your husband's progress with

> > prolotherapy. Pls. keep me posted. How are you doing with your

> > scoliosis - no need for prolotherapy?

> >

> >

> > --- In _Scoliosis Treatment@ --- I --

> > (mailto:_Scoliosis- Medical@Scoliosi s-MeSco_

> (mailto:Scoliosis- Medical) ) , carolkurt@, ca

> > >

> > > Hi ,

> > > Funny you should ask about prolotherapy - my husband had his

> first

> > set of

> > > injections two weeks ago. We are going back for the second set

> > this coming

> > > week. My husband does not have scoliosis - I do. He does have

> > three bulging

> > > discs, however, and that is what the prolotherapy is going to

> > (hopefully!)

> > > address. My husband has tried many different types of

> treatments

> > without success

> > > - medication, physical therapy, chiropractic and naprapathic

> > treatments,

> > > epidurals. Nothing gave more than very temporary relief.

> > > The purpose of the prolotherapy injections is to cause

> > inflammation at the

> > > injection sites. The inflammatory response to the injections

> then

> > stimulates

> > > new collagen growth. The new collagen growth is supposed to

> > strengthen the

> > > ligaments and tendons surrounding the injured area. My husband

> > received 90

> > > injections! Yes, you read that correctly. The good news is that

> > the whole

> > > treatment only takes about five minutes. The doctor who did the

> > injections is an

> > > MD. So far, it is too early to tell if the treatments are going

> > to work for

> > > him. He will need 3-7 treatments, as he is a big man. The

> > doctor also had

> > > to make the solution stronger because of his size.

> > > We are very hopeful that this treatment will finally end my

> > husband's pain,

> > > non-surgically. If you are interested, I will post again when

> he

> > is done

> > > with the treatments and let you know if they were successful.

> > > Carol from Long Grove

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 8/15/2008 11:11:48 A.M. Central Daylight

> Time,

> > > mariconda_l@ mariconda_

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi Everyobody,

> > > Just wondering if anyone on this group has any experience with

> > prolotherapy.

> > > I don't know too much about it yet, as I just discovered it. It

> > involves

> > > injections of a non-pharmaceutical solution and is supposed to

> > help things

> > > like DDD, amongst other things. Thanks in advance for any input

> > anyone might

> > > have.

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____

> > > Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and

> > bookmark your

> > > favourite sites. Download it now at

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no  I just lift different to others and I don't seem to have any lifting

problems after all I had have two children and constant lifting.  I also worked

in a Bookstore for years and we had a conveyer belt between the two floors and

boxes had to lifted on and off all day long.  My husband owns his own business

and we do alot of lifting in a small engine shop.

Re: Prolotherapy

Hi Carol,

Thanks for the information. I hope the prolotherapy is a huge success

for your husband and I look forward to getting an update on him. If

I start the treatments myself, I will be sure to let you know how

things go..

Best regards,

P.S. I am fused from T3-L1, live in the greater Toronto area, am 49

yrs old, and have only had the one surgery (in 1975 at the age of 16).

>

> Hi ,

>

> Funny you should mention spinal decompression - my husband and I did

look

> into that - there is a doctor close to our home that does that

treatment. We

> did a lot of thinking between disc decompression and the

prolotherapy.

> Finally, we decided on the prolotherapy as we were told that my

husband's discs

> were moving because of the degeneration, and the movement caused

pain. I felt

> that the prolotherapy, which tightens the surrounding ligaments and

tendons,

> and would hopefully contain the movement, might have a better

chance to effect

> a permanent solution. Remember, my husband does not have scoliosis.

>

> We live in the United States, in a suburb of Chicago. I was 47

years old at

> the time of my first surgery, and 53 at the last one. I am fused from

> T10-S1. My first two surgeries were combined anterior/posterior,

and the last two

> were just posterior. My surgeon followed the existing scar for the

> subsequent three posterior procedures. For having four incisions

along the same

> scar, I think my scar looks pretty good! It gives me no problems

at all. My two

> anterior incisions were in different areas. I believe, from what I

know,

> that incisions heal in the same time frame, whether it's a new area

or not.

> Sincerely,

> Carol

>

>

>

> In a message dated 8/22/2008 6:43:01 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

> mariconda_l@ ... writes:

>

>

>

>

> Hi Carol,

>

> I'm curious to know more of the details of your scoliosis/surgery.

> How old were you when you had the surgery? How much of your spine

> is fused? Do you live in the States/Canada/ is fused? Do you liv

> subsequent surgeries, as you have had, what does that mean in terms

> of scar tissue? Do they reopen a person along an existing scar if

> they have to go into the same area? And would that heal as well as

> if they were making an opening into non-scar tissue?

>

> With regard to your husband and his back trouble, has he tried

> spinal decompression? If not, that might be a consideration IF the

> prolotherapy doesn't do the job.

> Best regards,

>

>

> -- In _Scoliosis Treatment@ Scoliosis- MeSco_

> (mailto:Scoliosis- Medical) , carolkurt@, ca

> >

> > Dear ,

> > I will definitely keep you posted! I do not have a need for

> prolotherapy -

> > I'm doing well, thank you. Through the years I have had four

> scoliosis

> > surgeries. The last one was two 1/2 years ago, when my surgeon

> removed all of my

> > hardware. I am now feeling better than I have in years, so I

> have no need

> > for prolotherapy.

> > I will let you know of my husband's progress - we are hopeful that

> he will

> > see results soon!

> > Carol

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 8/16/2008 8:24:26 P.M. Central Daylight Time,

> > mariconda_l@ marico

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Carol,

> > I would love to hear about your husband's progress with

> > prolotherapy. Pls. keep me posted. How are you doing with your

> > scoliosis - no need for prolotherapy?

> >

> >

> > --- In _Scoliosis Treatment@ --- I --

> > (mailto:_Scoliosis- Medical@Scoliosi s-MeSco_

> (mailto:Scoliosis- Medical) ) , carolkurt@, ca

> > >

> > > Hi ,

> > > Funny you should ask about prolotherapy - my husband had his

> first

> > set of

> > > injections two weeks ago. We are going back for the second set

> > this coming

> > > week. My husband does not have scoliosis - I do. He does have

> > three bulging

> > > discs, however, and that is what the prolotherapy is going to

> > (hopefully!)

> > > address. My husband has tried many different types of

> treatments

> > without success

> > > - medication, physical therapy, chiropractic and naprapathic

> > treatments,

> > > epidurals. Nothing gave more than very temporary relief.

> > > The purpose of the prolotherapy injections is to cause

> > inflammation at the

> > > injection sites. The inflammatory response to the injections

> then

> > stimulates

> > > new collagen growth. The new collagen growth is supposed to

> > strengthen the

> > > ligaments and tendons surrounding the injured area. My husband

> > received 90

> > > injections! Yes, you read that correctly. The good news is that

> > the whole

> > > treatment only takes about five minutes. The doctor who did the

> > injections is an

> > > MD. So far, it is too early to tell if the treatments are going

> > to work for

> > > him. He will need 3-7 treatments, as he is a big man. The

> > doctor also had

> > > to make the solution stronger because of his size.

> > > We are very hopeful that this treatment will finally end my

> > husband's pain,

> > > non-surgically. If you are interested, I will post again when

> he

> > is done

> > > with the treatments and let you know if they were successful.

> > > Carol from Long Grove

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 8/15/2008 11:11:48 A.M. Central Daylight

> Time,

> > > mariconda_l@ mariconda_

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hi Everyobody,

> > > Just wondering if anyone on this group has any experience with

> > prolotherapy.

> > > I don't know too much about it yet, as I just discovered it. It

> > involves

> > > injections of a non-pharmaceutical solution and is supposed to

> > help things

> > > like DDD, amongst other things. Thanks in advance for any input

> > anyone might

> > > have.

> > >

> > >

> > > ____________ ____ ____ ____ ____ ____

> > > Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and

> > bookmark your

> > > favourite sites. Download it now at

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Sal,

I've had 2 prolo injections and they have helped tremendously. However, I

don't think my chondro is very severe. Altho. we have been treating my chondro,

the real focus has been on a tendon in my foot and a torn meniscus. The

injections PLUS lots of stretching and strengthening exercises have made a

huge

difference in my comfort and activity level.

Also, I strongly suggest that anyone going for prolo, choose the doc

carefully. If you are in the NY/NJ area, I have a great doc.

Regards,

Anne

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Ann,

Yes, I have a meniscus tear that I treat conservatively with exercise and

prolo. I have never had knee surgery. I am 60 years old. I have stopped running

this year, but I still walk several miles a day and hike very often.

Anne

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You're saying prolo helped your meniscus problem? How much damage is there?

Have you have part of your meniscus removed?

Thanks.

Ann

Re: prolotherapy

Sal,

I've had 2 prolo injections and they have helped tremendously. However, I

don't think my chondro is very severe. Altho. we have been treating my

chondro,

the real focus has been on a tendon in my foot and a torn meniscus. The

injections PLUS lots of stretching and strengthening exercises have made a

huge

difference in my comfort and activity level.

Also, I strongly suggest that anyone going for prolo, choose the doc

carefully. If you are in the NY/NJ area, I have a great doc.

Regards,

Anne

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Ann,

There was just a column written about a medial meniscus tear in the body

(tough area to heel) in one of the prolo newsletters. It takes about 6 to 8

sessions, but it seems to work.

Anne

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Hi Sal:

I had prolotherapy years ago to treat what was diagnosed as

chondromalacia and I've been fine since.

The doctor treated pretty much the entire knee joint, specifically

(as best as I can recall):

- Patellar tendon

- Medial and lateral collateral ligaments

- Coronary ligament(s)

- Pes Anserinus

- The attachment of the vastus medialis muscle to the femur/patella

Basically my knee was a pin-cushion for a few minutes. I went back

for, I think, 4 or 5 rounds of treatments, and I've been fine ever

since.

As Anne said, finding a good doc is the key. Mine is in

Connecticut and he is phenomenal. I've sent a few dozen friends and

family members to him over the years.

Two good place to look to find a doc are:

http://www.getprolo.com/

http://www.aaomed.org/civicrm/profile?gid=11 & reset=1

(just type in your State and it will give you a list of docs)

And Ann: Here's a little info on prolotherapy for meniscus tears:

http://www.prolonews.com/meniscus_blog.htm

Take care everyone,

Doug

>

> Ann,

>

> There was just a column written about a medial meniscus tear in the

body

> (tough area to heel) in one of the prolo newsletters. It takes

about 6 to 8

> sessions, but it seems to work.

>

> Anne

>

>

>

> **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life

financial

> challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and

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> calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?

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>

>

>

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Doug,

 

I am from CT originally, but live in Marlborough, MA near Worcester. I have

chronromalacia in both knees.  I had a arthroscopy done on the right knee, but

no help (from doctor for Red Sox at Beth Israel Hospital in Boston).  I'm a

teacher, so standing a lot is essential.  Lately my knees have been horriblly

painful.  I already went the PT route.  I'm not overweight and 45 years old.

 

Where is your prolotherapy person in CT ?  Could you give me the name ?

 

Thanks very much,

Jane

From: dougfromct2002 <dougfromct2002@...>

Subject: Re: prolotherapy

chondromalacia treatment

Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 8:03 PM

Hi Sal:

I had prolotherapy years ago to treat what was diagnosed as

chondromalacia and I've been fine since.

The doctor treated pretty much the entire knee joint, specifically

(as best as I can recall):

- Patellar tendon

- Medial and lateral collateral ligaments

- Coronary ligament(s)

- Pes Anserinus

- The attachment of the vastus medialis muscle to the femur/patella

Basically my knee was a pin-cushion for a few minutes. I went back

for, I think, 4 or 5 rounds of treatments, and I've been fine ever

since.

As Anne said, finding a good doc is the key. Mine is in

Connecticut and he is phenomenal. I've sent a few dozen friends and

family members to him over the years.

Two good place to look to find a doc are:

http://www.getprolo .com/

http://www.aaomed. org/civicrm/ profile?gid= 11 & reset= 1

(just type in your State and it will give you a list of docs)

And Ann: Here's a little info on prolotherapy for meniscus tears:

http://www.prolonew s.com/meniscus_ blog.htm

Take care everyone,

Doug

>

> Ann,

>

> There was just a column written about a medial meniscus tear in the

body

> (tough area to heel) in one of the prolo newsletters. It takes

about 6 to 8

> sessions, but it seems to work.

>

> Anne

>

>

>

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Ann,

Hang in there. I'd try prolo. Also, there's a lot coming through the

pipeline to regenerate cartilage. One example is the low level laser, which

looks

very promising.

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Hi Jane:

My doctor is in West Redding, CT, which would probably be a two+ hour

drive. Quite a hike, but he really is worth it, especially if you

can't find someone you like closer to you. His name is Dr.

Perretz and his info is here:

http://advancedpainsolution.com/

Any of you who are anywhere close to West Redding, CT should really

go see him. Such a nice, caring, talented guy.

Feel free to drop me an email if you have any questions about him

and/or prolotherapy that you don't want to post to the group

(dougfromct2002@...). Happy to help.

- Doug

>

> From: dougfromct2002 <dougfromct2002@...>

> Subject: Re: prolotherapy

> chondromalacia treatment

> Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 8:03 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi Sal:

>

> I had prolotherapy years ago to treat what was diagnosed as

> chondromalacia and I've been fine since.

>

> The doctor treated pretty much the entire knee joint, specifically

> (as best as I can recall):

> - Patellar tendon

> - Medial and lateral collateral ligaments

> - Coronary ligament(s)

> - Pes Anserinus

> - The attachment of the vastus medialis muscle to the femur/patella

>

> Basically my knee was a pin-cushion for a few minutes. I went back

> for, I think, 4 or 5 rounds of treatments, and I've been fine ever

> since.

>

> As Anne said, finding a good doc is the key. Mine is in

> Connecticut and he is phenomenal. I've sent a few dozen friends and

> family members to him over the years.

>

> Two good place to look to find a doc are:

> http://www.getprolo .com/

> http://www.aaomed. org/civicrm/ profile?gid= 11 & reset= 1

> (just type in your State and it will give you a list of docs)

>

> And Ann: Here's a little info on prolotherapy for meniscus tears:

> http://www.prolonew s.com/meniscus_ blog.htm

>

> Take care everyone,

> Doug

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Thanks and also to Doug. I'll check these out. I don't know how much of my

meniscus is left. I've already had 2 operations on it (left lateral), and

there's something loose in there now that hurts like hell when I do the wrong

thing. I wish I could glue some Teflon in there. Even if it was the wrong

shape, I'm sure it would be better than what I've got.

Ann

Re: prolotherapy

Ann,

There was just a column written about a medial meniscus tear in the body

(tough area to heel) in one of the prolo newsletters. It takes about 6 to 8

sessions, but it seems to work.

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Thanks. I wonder if it will work on old folks (cartilage loses moisture).

Ann

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Ann,

Hang in there. I'd try prolo. Also, there's a lot coming through the

pipeline to regenerate cartilage. One example is the low level laser, which

looks

very promising.

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Thanks very much for the information.  I may give him a try !

From: dougfromct2002 <dougfromct2002@...>

Subject: Re: prolotherapy

chondromalacia treatment

Date: Saturday, September 27, 2008, 7:22 PM

Hi Jane:

My doctor is in West Redding, CT, which would probably be a two+ hour

drive. Quite a hike, but he really is worth it, especially if you

can't find someone you like closer to you. His name is Dr.

Perretz and his info is here:

http://advancedpain solution. com/

Any of you who are anywhere close to West Redding, CT should really

go see him. Such a nice, caring, talented guy.

Feel free to drop me an email if you have any questions about him

and/or prolotherapy that you don't want to post to the group

(dougfromct2002). Happy to help.

- Doug

>

> From: dougfromct2002 <dougfromct2002@ ...>

> Subject: Re: prolotherapy

> chondromalaciacommu nity@groups .com

> Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 8:03 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi Sal:

>

> I had prolotherapy years ago to treat what was diagnosed as

> chondromalacia and I've been fine since.

>

> The doctor treated pretty much the entire knee joint, specifically

> (as best as I can recall):

> - Patellar tendon

> - Medial and lateral collateral ligaments

> - Coronary ligament(s)

> - Pes Anserinus

> - The attachment of the vastus medialis muscle to the femur/patella

>

> Basically my knee was a pin-cushion for a few minutes. I went back

> for, I think, 4 or 5 rounds of treatments, and I've been fine ever

> since.

>

> As Anne said, finding a good doc is the key. Mine is in

> Connecticut and he is phenomenal. I've sent a few dozen friends and

> family members to him over the years.

>

> Two good place to look to find a doc are:

> http://www.getprolo .com/

> http://www.aaomed. org/civicrm/ profile?gid= 11 & reset= 1

> (just type in your State and it will give you a list of docs)

>

> And Ann: Here's a little info on prolotherapy for meniscus tears:

> http://www.prolonew s.com/meniscus_ blog.htm

>

> Take care everyone,

> Doug

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'Also, there's a lot coming through the

pipeline to regenerate cartilage. One example is the low level laser, which

looks

very promising'

mmm, I'm liking the look of these two sentences!

Whats the low level laser thing?

Re: prolotherapy

Ann,

Hang in there. I'd try prolo. Also, there's a lot coming through the

pipeline to regenerate cartilage. One example is the low level laser, which

looks

very promising.

Anne

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I too liked the sound of those sentences, .  I'm thinking that the fact

that nobody jumped on your question though, it is likely that the low level

laser is the thing that ol' doc on Star Trek used to heal people of various

other-world maladies.  I remain hopeful, as all of us do though.  I saw

something that shows up on google called the Cytotron that looks a little funny,

and maybe a little bit promising.  Believe me, if it ever gets used in the US,

I'll be first in line.

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Subject: Re: prolotherapy

chondromalacia treatment

Date: Monday, September 29, 2008, 5:33 PM

'Also, there's a lot coming through the

pipeline to regenerate cartilage. One example is the low level laser, which

looks

very promising'

mmm, I'm liking the look of these two sentences!

Whats the low level laser thing?

Re: prolotherapy

Ann,

Hang in there. I'd try prolo. Also, there's a lot coming through the

pipeline to regenerate cartilage. One example is the low level laser, which

looks

very promising.

Anne

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I don't think it's much different from trigger point injections.

Liz

Thanks for all the posts on smoking.

From: Geoffrey <healingbuddy@...>dominie Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 4:52:50 PMSubject: prolotherapy

I've heard about this natural treatment years ago however all of asudden it was mentioned again to me for treatment of fibromyalgia andthe muscular pain. Does anybody know anything about it? Does itwork? Do you recommend it?Geoff

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Hi Everyone,

As promised, I wanted to give you an update on my experience with

prolotherapy for treating knee osteoarthritis/menuscus tear/minor

chondromalacia.

After about 6 months and 6 treatments, I am really feeling great with minor

pain

(reduction from an " 8 " to about a " 2 " .) I really stuck with the treatment and

the stretching and strengthening exercises. I am not a runner but I do walk

for about 3 to 6 miles a day.

My doc is also going to visit with Dr. Centeno (_www.regenexx.com_

(http://www.regenexx.com) ) in Denver to see if there is any interest in

expanding his

practice to the East coast. Somehow Dr. Centeno still manages to get around

the FDA taboo of stem cells. For those interested people on the East coast,

I'll let you know what my doc finds out.

Regards,

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I have a ND in my office Minarik that

does prolotherapy. I have also used Jimmy Huebert a great deal, but he has just

moved.

Ted Forcum,

DC, DACBSP

'08 US Olympic Team Chiropractor

ACA Sports Council, President

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Does anyone know a doctor that does prolotherapy?

Also, has it been successful for ligament laxity?

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I have a ND in my office Minarik that

does prolotherapy. I have also used Jimmy Huebert a great deal, but he has just

moved.

Ted Forcum,

DC, DACBSP

'08 US Olympic Team Chiropractor

ACA Sports Council, President

Back

In Motion Sports Injuries Clinic, LLC

11385 SW Scholls Ferry Road

Beaverton, Oregon 97008

503.524.9040

www.bimsportsinjuries.com

The information contained in this

electronic message may contain protected health information confidential under

applicable law, and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity

named above. If the recipient of this message is not the intended recipient,

you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copy or disclosure of this

communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this

communication in error, please notify Back In Motion Sports Injuries Clinic,

LLC at 11385 SW Scholls Ferry Road,

Beaverton, OR-97008.

and purge the communication immediately without making any copy or distribution.

From:

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Of Cluen

Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009

2:43 PM

Subject:

Prolotherapy

Does anyone know a doctor that does prolotherapy?

Also, has it been successful for ligament laxity?

Thanks,

Cluen, DC

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Where do you need one? There is a MD that only does Prolotherpay for many years here in Ashland. Does it work, it says it works and has been around for 40 years. Did it work on some of the people that said they had it done, well everyone I asked said "I don't know".

Wiese DC

From: Cluen <gcluen2002@...>Subject: Prolotherapy Date: Thursday, September 10, 2009, 2:43 PM

Does anyone know a doctor that does prolotherapy? Also, has it been successful for ligament laxity?

Thanks, Cluen, DC

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