Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 nApril wrote: > Don > Don > Sounds like I need to get a garden growing. Then you say just take the > vegetables out of the ground, don't even wash them and just eat them as > is. Do I have that right? > I have the plain yogurt in my fridge but was not eating eat since I was > learning so much here about staying away from dairy. Do you think I > ought to eat some yogurt just for a little while? > April ===================================== Yogurt can be very beneficial. No, it is not an appropriate food for humans. It is still a dairy product and will still be acid forming inside the body. You can get probiotics in capsules and even in liquid form without any milk products. Getting beneficial bacteria back into your system is very important. Best is to grow all your own produce then you will have all the organic produce you need which will supply your digestive tract with all the beneficial flora and fauna you need. I am not suggesting taking a spoon and going out into the garden and start munching down dirt. Very lightly wash off the dirt and then eat the produce. This will leave a lot of the bacteria on the produce. If you scrub it then you will risk losing most all of the bacteria. I honestly can't say that I have ever heard of anyone dying from eating dirt. Just make certain that you use absolutely no chemicals fertilizers, pesticides, herbicides, etc on your garden. Use only compost and mulch. Nothing else is required except water. It is going to take time to repopulate your gut and bring about a good balance of bacteria. Now is a good time to contemplate your new life and begin making your decisions that will lead you to true health and vitality. If you don't have a ton of yogurt then go ahead and use it but start thinking of other possibilities like having your own garden.or finding an organic farmer close by. Look at it this way, if you grow it you know it. -- Peace be with you, April. Don " Quai " Eitner " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man. " -- In compliance with the highest standards of Universal Law, this email has been thoroughly disinfected and purified in the solar flares of the sun. Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.1 - Release Date: 4/20/05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2005 Report Share Posted April 21, 2005 And you can make kimchi and get the probiotic benefits of that. Not to mention the exercise! posted a recipe a couple of weeks ago that you can find by doing a search in the message archives. Sharyn > -----Original Message----- > From: health > [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Don Quai > > You can get probiotics in > capsules and even in liquid form without any milk products. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.1 - Release Date: 4/20/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2005 Report Share Posted April 23, 2005 Carol Minnick wrote: > From: Don Quai < > > > Because we are a species among all the other species living on the > > planet. Homo sapiens I do believe is what our particular species is > called. > > ================================== > > So just because we are homo sapiens you don’t think we should eat > anything from the water? I guess I don’t quite understand what you mean. > > Carol > ============================================= Hi Carol, What I am saying, Carol, is that there is nothing growing in the water that man needs to eat that he cannot get on land from the fruits and tender green leafy vegetables. Algae, even though it has been shown to be high in B-12 and other bioactive principles, is more a food for fish and certain birds that eat the fish that swim in the water that eat the bugs that live in the algae that grows in the water...... What you choose to eat is your choice as it is everyones.. You wish to eat algae that is entirely up to you. However, it is not a food for humans and was never meant to be. I seriously doubt that anyone goes out to Klamath lake and sits down and eats the algae straight out of the water. Now it is possible that somebody has done this somewhere at some point. But it is not a practice that is commonly followed. This is why we say it is not a species appropriate food, because no body can just go and eat it right out of the lake without it first being processed. Man is a frugivore by nature and design. That means fruits, it literally means all biologically classified fruits, and greens. Man is not a carnivore, nor an omnivore, nor an insectivore nor a true herbivore. Yes, humans have been eating algae for centuries but this does not make it a food for them. Man has been eating meat for centuries too but that still is not an appropriate food for us. Hence my saying it is not a species appropriate food for humans. I know a lot of people will disagree with me on this and that is their choice. The concept that man needs to supplement B-12 by eating pond scum or chlorella, or spirulina or AFA is false. The concept that man needs to eat it for whatever bioactive principles it has is false as well. Man can get all the protein, carbohydrates, organic vitamins and minerals and fats from the fruits and vegetables, provided they are grown organically. The cyanobacteria are everywhere. In the air, on the land and, to a point, in the water. Nature is perfect in design and keeps it simple for each and every species. Everything every species needs for its metabolic needs nature has provided for in quantity and quality. Humans are the only ones who complicate their dietary needs through eating non-species appropriate foods and then cooking same foods. I do hope this clears up what I was saying so that everyone can understand. -- Peace be with you, Carol. Don " Quai " Eitner " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man. " -- In compliance with the highest standards of Universal Law, this email has been thoroughly disinfected and purified in the solar flares of the sun. Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.2 - Release Date: 4/21/05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2005 Report Share Posted April 23, 2005 Don, So, if it is not a food for humans, how would you explain the fact that thousands upon thousands of people who eat it report good results after eating it, such as more energy, no more sinus congestion, better digestion, elimination of fibromyalgia, less colds and flu, etc. etc. Just coincidence? I don’t think so. Couldn’t be just “all in your head”, or couldn’t be the placebo effect in everybody. No food (fruits or veggies) has ever lessened my sinus problems, except the AFA. No food ever lessened my dogs hip pain that was so bad she couldn’t get up, except the AFA. Certainly couldn’t be a placebo effect in an animal. I do understand now what you are saying though, why you think it is not species appropriate. I guess I just tend to not agree with you on that one, since using it as a food helps so many people. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2005 Report Share Posted April 23, 2005 I think Don's bigger question is why would humans (homo sapiens) have evolved to live on land and get their nutrients from said land if they truly **needed** something that came from the sea to survive....and I must admit, whether spirulina is a good supplement or not, I would have the same question. Of course, that begs the question of why we need "supplements" at all, unless we are not eating the diet that Nature intended.... Sharyn From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Carol Minnick So, if it is not a food for humans, how would you explain the fact that thousands upon thousands of people who eat it report good results after eating it, -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.2 - Release Date: 4/21/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 Carol Minnick wrote: > Don, > > So, if it is not a food for humans, how would you explain the fact > that thousands upon thousands of people who eat it report good results > after eating it, such as more energy, no more sinus congestion, better > digestion, elimination of fibromyalgia, less colds and flu, etc. etc. > Just coincidence? I don’t think so. Couldn’t be just “all in your > head”, or couldn’t be the placebo effect in everybody. No food (fruits > or veggies) has ever lessened my sinus problems, except the AFA. No > food ever lessened my dogs hip pain that was so bad she couldn’t get > up, except the AFA. Certainly couldn’t be a placebo effect in an animal. > > I do understand now what you are saying though, why you think it is > not species appropriate. I guess I just tend to not agree with you on > that one, since using it as a food helps so many people. > > Carol > ====================== Hi Carol, Yes, thousands upon thousands of people feel better when they take spirulina or AFA. Thousands upon thousands of women and men feel better every month when they eat chocolate too, but that does not make chocolate a species appropriate food for humans and in fact it isn't. No more that spirulina or AFA is. Consider that the diet of most people is far below decent. Most any supplementation will help them to feel better. Heck even meat eaters will tell you that they feel better when they eat meat too. Still not a food for humans. As for your sinus problems, the AFA has only lessened it, it hasn't cured it. The AFA is only a bandaid. No fruits and vegetables nor anything you will ever eat will cure you. Why don't you do yourself a favor and do a supervised fast for as long as needed and allow your body to heal itself as nature intended. Then you won't need supplementation. As for your dog, I don't know your dogs history,I don't know your dogs age, I don't know what you feed your dog. I don't know why your dog has this problem. I don't even know what type of dog you have so I really can't comment on this one as there are too many variables that I do not know. -- Peace be with you, Carol. Don " Quai " Eitner " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man. " -- In compliance with the highest standards of Universal Law, this email has been thoroughly disinfected and purified in the solar flares of the sun. Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.2 - Release Date: 4/21/05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 Sharyn E. Cerniglia wrote: > I think Don's bigger question is why would humans (homo sapiens) have > evolved to live on land and get their nutrients from said land if they > truly **needed** something that came from the sea to survive....and I > must admit, whether spirulina is a good supplement or not, I would > have the same question. Of course, that begs the question of why we > need " supplements " at all, unless we are not eating the diet that > Nature intended.... > > Sharyn ========================= Hi Sharyn, There is no need for supplementation if we are eating the food that nature intended for us to eat. Plain and simple. We, as humans stray from natures perfect design. Nature does not stray from us. We choose not to follow natural law, therefore we, as a species, suffer when we do not eat the diet that is appropriate for our species. No animal in nature suffers from diseases because they follow natural laws and eat only what is appropriate for them. Only those animals that are affected my mankind suffer from diseases through inappropriate diets, supplementations, environmental toxins, etc. -- Peace be with you, Sharyn. Don " Quai " Eitner " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man. " -- In compliance with the highest standards of Universal Law, this email has been thoroughly disinfected and purified in the solar flares of the sun. Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.2 - Release Date: 4/21/05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 Sharyn, I think most of us (not us in this group, but us as in the “general population”) are not eating a diet that Nature intended. Just take a look in people’s shopping carts next time you go grocery shopping. It’s amazing to see all the “junk” that people buy – it outweighs the fruit and veggies by far! I buy groceries for 2 people, me and hubby. Fruit and veggies for me, and junk for hubby – and in my shopping cart I separate it – just in case I see somebody I know, so I can explain – this half is mine, this half is his! LOL Carol +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From: " Sharyn E. Cerniglia " <> Of course, that begs the question of why we need " supplements " at all, unless we are not eating the diet that Nature intended.... Sharyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 From: Don Quai <> As for your sinus problems, the AFA has only lessened it, it hasn't cured it. The AFA is only a bandaid. No fruits and vegetables nor anything you will ever eat will cure you. Why don't you do yourself a favor and do a supervised fast for as long as needed and allow your body to heal itself as nature intended. ========================== Been there, done that. Can’t think of anything I haven’t done for it – fasting, herbs, acupuncture, chiropractic, cleanses, etc. The AFA has given my body what it was lacking, whatever nutrients I was not getting in my regular diet, and my body has cured itself of my sinus problem. It is not only just lessened, it’s completely gone. Can’t explain it, but the problem’s gone. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2005 Report Share Posted April 24, 2005 You are absolutely right, Carol. My comment was ironic, not literal. Most of us, even most of us here probably, are not eating 100% the diet that Nature intended. I know I did very well all weekend while my dh was gone, and then had a piece of pizza when he got home! It's just too difficult when there are others to take care of, and they're not happy with an avocado/tomato sandwich on Ezekial bread.<G> All we can do is the best we can do, and supplements certainly help. I guess my point was that in a perfect world we wouldn't need them.... Sharyn From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Carol Minnick I think most of us (not us in this group, but us as in the “general population”) are not eating a diet that Nature intended. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From: "Sharyn E. Cerniglia" Of course, that begs the question of why we need "supplements" at all, unless we are not eating the diet that Nature intended.... -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.2 - Release Date: 4/21/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2005 Report Share Posted April 26, 2005 Carol Minnick wrote: > Been there, done that. Can’t think of anything I haven’t done for it – > fasting, herbs, acupuncture, chiropractic, cleanses, etc. The AFA has > given my body what it was lacking, whatever nutrients I was not > getting in my regular diet, and my body has cured itself of my sinus > problem. It is not only just lessened, it’s completely gone. Can’t > explain it, but the problem’s gone. > > Carol > ============================== Hi Carol, That is great. Glad your problem no longer exists for you. -- Peace be with you, Carol. Don " Quai " Eitner " Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal and wakes in man. " -- In compliance with the highest standards of Universal Law, this email has been thoroughly disinfected and purified in the solar flares of the sun. Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.2 - Release Date: 4/21/05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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