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Could be anything.. hives, dermatitis, eczema, etc... is it constant or can you relate it to food, time of year, stress etc?Rainbow Egret <egret.09@...> wrote:

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OK I have now and had for many years since I was young had these red pimply things on the backs of the top of my arms and now it has spread accross my back.

Do you have any idea what these could be? I asked a doctor years ago and he said just to wash with a wash cloth which is what I do all the time.

Probably another thing that will go away when I clean out and go raw.

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What did your doctor say it was, if he told you to wash it?? Take note when it gets redder as to what you've done, eaten , etc...

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It is pretty much constant. Sometimes redder than other times.

Tracey

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Do you also get similar bumps on top of thighs or your cheeks? If

so, it could be keratosis pyloris (I think that's the correct

spelling). My 5 year old daughter has had that almost since

birth. Has something to do with skin cells not sloughing off fast

enough and building those little bumps as a result. We were told to

wash her affected areas with a wash rag also. I'd be interested in

hearing about some sort of natural remedy for this particular condition,

if anyone knows of one. I'm sure my daughter's skin will be very

challenging when she gets to puberty!

Thanks,

Rose

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What did your doctor say it was, if

he told you to wash it?? Take note when it gets redder as to what

you've done, eaten , etc...

Suzi

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It is pretty much constant. Sometimes

redder than other times.

Tracey

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Hi Rose

Yes I do get them there sometimes and a some of my boys seem to be getting it too.

It seems to have pretty much gone from my arms but still on my back. You can scratch the dry white tops of some of them sometimes.

I've had it since I was young too and like I said my boys seem to have it too now.

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If it is keratosis piloris, here is a website that has some good info even though they are selling something.. also,alpha hydroxyacid is used alot on skin disorders.. Alpha hydroxyacid is the term used for several naturally occurring acids found in fruits and other foods. These include lactic acid, derived from sour milk; citric acid, derived from citric fruit such as oranges; and glycolic acid, derived from sugar cane. Alpha hydroxyacids have been used for centuries. Maybe eating more citric fruit would help. It's a thought, or make a citric wash or astringent...

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Rose Baumann <rose@...> wrote:

Do you also get similar bumps on top of thighs or your cheeks? If so, it could be keratosis pyloris (I think that's the correct spelling). My 5 year old daughter has had that almost since birth. Has something to do with skin cells not sloughing off fast enough and building those little bumps as a result. We were told to wash her affected areas with a wash rag also. I'd be interested in hearing about some sort of natural remedy for this particular condition, if anyone knows of one. I'm sure my daughter's skin will be very challenging when she gets to puberty!Thanks,Rose

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forgot the website....

http://www.dermadoctor.com/pages/newsletter51.asp?AID=4331

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If it is keratosis piloris, here is a website that has some good info even though they are selling something.. also,alpha hydroxyacid is used alot on skin disorders.. Alpha hydroxyacid is the term used for several naturally occurring acids found in fruits and other foods. These include lactic acid, derived from sour milk; citric acid, derived from citric fruit such as oranges; and glycolic acid, derived from sugar cane. Alpha hydroxyacids have been used for centuries. Maybe eating more citric fruit would help. It's a thought, or make a citric wash or astringent...

Suzi

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> Hi Suzi

>

> OK I have now and had for many years since I was young had these red

> pimply things on the backs of the top of my arms and now it has spread

> accross my back.

>

> Do you have any idea what these could be? I asked a doctor years ago

> and he said just to wash with a wash cloth which is what I do all the

> time.

>

> Probably another thing that will go away when I clean out and go raw.

>

> Thanks

> Tracey

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Hi Tracey,

Most definitely. The skin problem is just your body attempting to

cleanse toxins out through the skin. Yes, going raw will help much.

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> It is pretty much constant. Sometimes redder than other times.

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> Tracey

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Pay attention to it, play detective and see what causes it to become

more red or to spread. Notice what happens or what you do or eat just

prior. Be your own diagnostician.

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also, I noticed you said it was spreading--could it be a yeast problem? when I had systemic yeast, I would get a rash on just a certain place on the back of my hand and forearm. It would itch like crazy to the point it would start to bleed. I took Olive Leaf Extract and Oregano oil and it is gone now. Both of these supplements will take on a yeast problem and eradicate it.

From: deb.lawley <deb.lawley@...>Subject: skin disordersdominie Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 5:15 AM

Just wondering if anyone else in the group has experienced skin problems due to FMS. Over the past few months I have developed terrible cracking, bleeding, and itching on the palms of my hands and in between my knuckles. My dermatologist diagnosed eczema and perscribed an oily cortisone cream which actually seems to be making it worse. It is spreading and sore to the point that it hurts to use my hands or close them in fists to grip things. I've tried aloe vera, sesame oil, jojoba oil, expensive over the counter hand creams and nothing seems to help. My daughter wonders if it's not contact dermatitis so I've changed all my soaps and detergents to all natural and organic.Any ideas? Thanks in advance!

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Deb,

I have had the same thing this year with my toes and fingers. I

have seen two dermatologists as well as podiatrist, and my

rhematologist. This was a terrible winter!!! Especially if you

reside in the Midwest. Many people with FMS and immune system

problems have had problems with skin coming out of this winter. I

was also given multiple cortisone creams and ointments which like

you have made it worse. Right now, I use bandaids on really bad

areas and am having trouble wearing shoes. I also went to using

plain aveeno products in shower and lotion. As well, as taking

quick luke warm showers. I am applying zinc oxide ointment and it

seems to aid in the healing of the cracks and painful fissures.

Hopefully, after humidity comes into the air we will be better.

In response to Naproxen - this is NOT and antiviral medication!!!

And, I don't think you have a virus. Eczema is a very difficult

thing to cure and to get rid of. I'm certain you have read the

literature.

Good luck! Let us know how you are doing!

FYI:

Naproxen (INN) (pronounced /n & #601; & #712;pr & #594;ks & #601;n/) is a non-steroidal

anti-

inflammatory drug (NSAID) commonly used for the reduction of

moderate to severe pain, fever, inflammation and stiffness caused by

conditions such as osteoarthritis, rheumatoid arthritis, psoriatic

arthritis, gout, ankylosing spondylitis, injury (like fractures),

menstrual cramps, tendinitis, bursitis, and the treatment of primary

dysmenorrhea. It works by inhibiting both the COX-1 and COX-2

enzymes. Naproxen and naproxen sodium are marketed under various

trade names including: Aleve, Anaprox, Miranax, Naprogesic,

Naprosyn, Naprelan, Synflex.

> Just wondering if anyone else in the group has

experienced skin

> problems due to FMS. Over the past few months I have developed

> terrible cracking, bleeding, and itching on the palms of my hands

and

> in between my knuckles. My dermatologist diagnosed eczema and

> perscribed an oily cortisone cream which actually seems to be

making it

> worse. It is spreading and sore to the point that it hurts to use

my

> hands or close them in fists to grip things. I've tried aloe vera,

> sesame oil, jojoba oil, expensive over the counter hand creams and

> nothing seems to help. My daughter wonders if it's not contact

> dermatitis so I've changed all my soaps and detergents to all

natural

> and organic.

> Any ideas? Thanks in advance!

>

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Thank you everyone for all your help and suggestions.

I have stopped taking my fish oil because the capsules I was sold by

my naturopath are so expensive (tried incorporating more fish into

my diet ie canned salmon), tried rubbing with olive oil but not

sleeping with the gloves and that's a good idea.

Would like to try the olive leaf extract but live in Canada and

wonder if it's available here as I've not heard of it or noticed it

on the shelves - does someone have the brand name or company?

I will also look into the Renew Intensive cream but will have to

check the source of the oils in it as I have a grandson that is

anaphlatic to nuts and nut oils are common in cosmetics and lotions.

Good idea about the zinc oxide too! :-)

I will keep you posted...

FYI been subscribing to Dom's newsletter for a few years and am very

happy to have the opportunity to chat with others through this

group. Good idea Dom!

I am 53, diagnosed at 43 and I believe onset was due to the

political climate of education at the time (strikes, walkouts) plus

working in two mouldy portables in one year (both condemned).

I took an early retirement (reduced pension) and am on a Canadian

disability pension having not be able to work a full week for about

2 years now. You are absolutely correct about how progressive FMS

is. I was quite convinced I could manage this with a good diet,

healthy lifestyle and daily yoga (I am a certified yoga instructor

as well as an elementary teacher0 and guess what? It caught up with

me anyhow. So nice to have others to share my frustration with!

Be well and thanks again!

Deb

> > > Just wondering if anyone else in the group has

> > experienced skin

> > > problems due to FMS. Over the past few months I have developed

> > > terrible cracking, bleeding, and itching on the palms of my

hands

> > and

> > > in between my knuckles. My dermatologist diagnosed eczema and

> > > perscribed an oily cortisone cream which actually seems to be

> > making it

> > > worse. It is spreading and sore to the point that it hurts to

use

> > my

> > > hands or close them in fists to grip things. I've tried aloe

vera,

> > > sesame oil, jojoba oil, expensive over the counter hand creams

and

> > > nothing seems to help. My daughter wonders if it's not contact

> > > dermatitis so I've changed all my soaps and detergents to all

> > natural

> > > and organic.

> > > Any ideas? Thanks in advance!

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

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I understand about the issues that Canadians have getting the same

supplements and even drugs that we Americans recommend. I have been

conversing by email with another Canadian who has RA and she wants to

try supplements that I have used and they are not always available.

Olive leaf Extract has only been available here in the states for about

12 years or so. I take this for my FMS along with some other

supplements and Low Dose Naltrexone, which has been very effective for

me. I just wonder if you can start healing within to help what is

showing up on your extremities? As far as the brand of Olive Leaf,

most major companies that make supplements have it. I take NSI brand

from Vitacost.com. You might check the internet and see if you can

find a Canadian company that carries it. I hope you can get some relief

soon! hugs, Elaine

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Hi Deb. I live in London Ontario and find olive leaf at Shopper's Drug Mart - their Life brand. I was surprised to find their brand is pretty good quality. I can't explain why, but olive leaf gives me energy, so I take two in the morning and two in the afternoon. You can also find it at Great Canadian Superstore (fancy Loblaws). It is also available in health food stores. You can get salmon oil (omega 3) from a lot of places. I take SISU (blue bottle, 180 1,000 mg caps for about $20). Webber also has a good source - wild salmon oil, 100 caps for about $18 at Walmart. Welcome to the group! Helen"deb.lawley" <deb.lawley@...> wrote: Thank you everyone for all your help and suggestions.I have stopped taking my fish oil because the capsules I was sold by my naturopath are so expensive (tried incorporating more fish into my diet ie canned salmon), tried rubbing with olive oil but not sleeping with the gloves and that's a good idea.Would like to try the olive leaf extract but live in Canada and wonder if it's available here as I've not heard of it or noticed it on the shelves - does someone have the brand name or company?I will also look into the Renew Intensive cream but will have to check the source of the oils in it as I have a grandson that is anaphlatic to nuts and nut oils are common in cosmetics and lotions.Good idea about the zinc

oxide too! :-)I will keep you posted...FYI been subscribing to Dom's newsletter for a few years and am very happy to have the opportunity to chat with others through this group. Good idea Dom! I am 53, diagnosed at 43 and I believe onset was due to the political climate of education at the time (strikes, walkouts) plus working in two mouldy portables in one year (both condemned). I took an early retirement (reduced pension) and am on a Canadian disability pension having not be able to work a full week for about 2 years now. You are absolutely correct about how progressive FMS is. I was quite convinced I could manage this with a good diet, healthy lifestyle and daily yoga (I am a certified yoga instructor as well as an elementary teacher0 and guess what? It caught up with me anyhow. So nice to have others to share my frustration with!Be well and thanks again!Deb> > > Just wondering if anyone else in the group has > > experienced skin > > > problems due to FMS. Over the past few months I have developed > > > terrible cracking, bleeding, and itching on the palms of my hands > > and > > > in between my knuckles. My dermatologist diagnosed eczema and > > > perscribed an oily cortisone cream which actually seems to be > > making it > > > worse. It is spreading and sore to the point that it hurts to use > > my > > > hands or close them in fists to grip things. I've tried aloe vera, > > > sesame oil, jojoba oil, expensive over the counter hand creams and > > > nothing seems to help. My daughter wonders if it's not contact > > > dermatitis so I've

changed all my soaps and detergents to all > > natural > > > and organic.> > > Any ideas? Thanks in advance!> > >> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------> > > >

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Hi Helen, thanks for the info. I'll check out the Shopper's closest

to us. This olive leaf sounds pretty interesting - seems like there

are more than a few of us in this group that are taking it- also will

start my fish oil again. But, will have to think hard about the oil

of oregano. Took that a few years ago to keep my dad company - he

was suffering from prostate cancer and we had heard that it helped

reduce tumor growth - but the stuff tastes like turpentine and the

after taste is pretty nasty. I have had good luck rubbing it on my

swollen glands when coming down with a sore throat or cold, maybe I

should just rub it on my hands ;-)

Anyway, nice to have another Canuck to share my misery with. I live

in the Ottawa area - clear across the world from you <grin> but know

London as our oldest daughter went to Fanshawe

FYI I have been gluten and diary free for almost 8 years now. I have

no problems with the diet as - at least around here - there seems to

be a lot of choices for gluten free pastas and treats and I am quite

used to soy and rice milk products. I can tolerate small amounts of

gluten so make bread and deserts using whole grain spelt flour -

works even with pastry.

I also avoid processed meats, trans fats, fast food, and try to avoid

sugar. It must be working because I managed to keep up with my 3

year old grandson whom I provide day care for - 5 days a week - and

am still able to walk and talk!!

Thanks everyone again, for all your help.

Keep well,

Deb

-- In dominie , HELEN BROCK <jhbrock@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Deb. I live in London Ontario and find olive leaf at Shopper's

Drug Mart - their Life brand. I was surprised to find their brand is

pretty good quality. I can't explain why, but olive leaf gives me

energy, so I take two in the morning and two in the afternoon. You

can also find it at Great Canadian Superstore (fancy Loblaws).

> It is also available in health food stores.

> You can get salmon oil (omega 3) from a lot of places. I take

SISU (blue bottle, 180 1,000 mg caps for about $20). Webber also has

a good source - wild salmon oil, 100 caps for about $18 at Walmart.

> Welcome to the group!

>

> Helen

>

> " deb.lawley " <deb.lawley@...> wrote:

> Thank you everyone for all your help and suggestions.

> I have stopped taking my fish oil because the capsules I was sold

by

> my naturopath are so expensive (tried incorporating more fish into

> my diet ie canned salmon), tried rubbing with olive oil but not

> sleeping with the gloves and that's a good idea.

> Would like to try the olive leaf extract but live in Canada and

> wonder if it's available here as I've not heard of it or noticed it

> on the shelves - does someone have the brand name or company?

> I will also look into the Renew Intensive cream but will have to

> check the source of the oils in it as I have a grandson that is

> anaphlatic to nuts and nut oils are common in cosmetics and lotions.

> Good idea about the zinc oxide too! :-)

>

> I will keep you posted...

>

> FYI been subscribing to Dom's newsletter for a few years and am

very

> happy to have the opportunity to chat with others through this

> group. Good idea Dom!

> I am 53, diagnosed at 43 and I believe onset was due to the

> political climate of education at the time (strikes, walkouts) plus

> working in two mouldy portables in one year (both condemned).

> I took an early retirement (reduced pension) and am on a Canadian

> disability pension having not be able to work a full week for about

> 2 years now. You are absolutely correct about how progressive FMS

> is. I was quite convinced I could manage this with a good diet,

> healthy lifestyle and daily yoga (I am a certified yoga instructor

> as well as an elementary teacher0 and guess what? It caught up with

> me anyhow. So nice to have others to share my frustration with!

>

> Be well and thanks again!

> Deb

>

>

> > > > Just wondering if anyone else in the group has

> > > experienced skin

> > > > problems due to FMS. Over the past few months I have

developed

> > > > terrible cracking, bleeding, and itching on the palms of my

> hands

> > > and

> > > > in between my knuckles. My dermatologist diagnosed eczema and

> > > > perscribed an oily cortisone cream which actually seems to be

> > > making it

> > > > worse. It is spreading and sore to the point that it hurts to

> use

> > > my

> > > > hands or close them in fists to grip things. I've tried aloe

> vera,

> > > > sesame oil, jojoba oil, expensive over the counter hand

creams

> and

> > > > nothing seems to help. My daughter wonders if it's not

contact

> > > > dermatitis so I've changed all my soaps and detergents to all

> > > natural

> > > > and organic.

> > > > Any ideas? Thanks in advance!

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

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