Guest guest Posted January 5, 1999 Report Share Posted January 5, 1999 Alison E Schettini wrote: > > From: Alison E Schettini <alison7@...> > > Chances are...if you have one tick borne disease and you are symptomatic > of another, you have them both. The point is, it doesn't really matter. > The end results are the same. And i just wish that the powers that be > were more concerned with a CURE because they are NEVER going to do away > with all the ticks!!!!!!!! > Hugs, > Alison > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Dear Alison: Now that's one I hadn't thought about - do away with all the ticks!! I'm going right outside today and stand in tall grass to see how many I can attract. Actually, maybe I'll sit on a picnic bench, which is apparently where I got my bite -no tall grass, no animals around - just the tick! Lovette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 1999 Report Share Posted January 6, 1999 I went to a Lyme Coalition meeting last Spring with a friend of mine and there was a legislator there and a guy why works for an exterminating company and they were talking about all the pesticides and all the laws etc and all of a sudden this woman stood up and asked why we were wasting our time and money talking about pesticides and why we weren't corralling up all the deer and killing them? I have to tell you, I was really SHOCKED and SICK over that. Especially when I asked my friend if she thought this person was serious and several people turned to me to tell me she WAS!!!!!!! How about that as a solution to this problem?????????????????? " F. Mott " wrote: > From: " F. Mott " <smott@...> > > Alison E Schettini wrote: > > > > From: Alison E Schettini <alison7@...> > > > > Chances are...if you have one tick borne disease and you are symptomatic > > of another, you have them both. The point is, it doesn't really matter. > > The end results are the same. And i just wish that the powers that be > > were more concerned with a CURE because they are NEVER going to do away > > with all the ticks!!!!!!!! > > Hugs, > > Alison > > > > -- > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Dear Alison: Now that's one I hadn't thought about - do away with all the ticks!! I'm going right outside today and stand in tall grass to see how many I can attract. Actually, maybe I'll sit on a picnic bench, which is apparently where I got my bite -no tall grass, no animals around - just the tick! > > Lovette > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 1999 Report Share Posted January 6, 1999 As for killing all of the deer, I don't think it'll work, too many other critters that ticks like to bite. It would probably help some in areas with extremely high deer populations, though. To change the subject, has anyone heard anything else about the lizard blood component that destroys the lyme spirochete? I read about it somewhere a couple of months ago, and am curious if anything else has been released. Probably most of us would take a Lizard IV in a heart beat ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 1999 Report Share Posted January 6, 1999 Hi there, as a wife of an avid deer hunter and a daughter of a man who processes at least 150-200 deer each year, I would have to disagree with get rid of the deer.... My dad has been handling moose, bear, deer, cows, we own a family dairy farm, and many other game animals for years and has never even been bitten by a tick to my knowledge. I know for a fact that if we demolished all the deer, they would still survive on other animals. Wish I had of known to protect myself better, that may have helped. Wish I could offer a good solution...the best I can come up with is making everyone aware of the terrible disease, along with the symptoms that go with it. Take Care Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 1999 Report Share Posted January 6, 1999 That was one of the reasons I was so horrified. Essentially, the problem is ticks and not deer. The " and " is really any warm blooded animal that the tick can host on! I happen to love deer and think they are getting a bum rap. A -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 1999 Report Share Posted January 7, 1999 How about all the squirrels, birds, rodents etc, that carry Lyme???? Kill them too? Some people just don't think! Marta -----Original Message----- >From: Alison E Schettini <alison7@...> > >I went to a Lyme Coalition meeting last Spring with a friend of mine and there was a legislator there and a guy why works for an exterminating company and they were talking about all the pesticides and all the laws etc and all of a sudden this woman stood up and asked why we were wasting our time and money >talking about pesticides and why we weren't corralling up all the deer and killing them? I have to tell you, I was really SHOCKED and SICK over that. Especially when I asked my friend if she thought this person was serious and several people turned to me to tell me she WAS!!!!!!! >How about that as a solution to this problem?????????????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 1999 Report Share Posted January 7, 1999 JSchm47974@... wrote: > From: JSchm47974@... > > > To change the subject, has anyone heard anything else about the lizard blood > component that destroys the lyme spirochete? I read about it somewhere a > couple of months ago, and am curious if anything else has been released. > Probably most of us would take a Lizard IV in a heart beat ! > > > Lizard IV? I would give a lizard a big wet kiss if it would cure my Lyme Disease! Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 1999 Report Share Posted January 7, 1999 I have heard of licking frogs to get high, so why not??? Marta JSchm47974@... wrote: From: JSchm47974@... To change the subject, has anyone heard anything else about the lizard blood component that destroys the lyme spirochete? I read about it somewhere a couple of months ago, and am curious if anything else has been released. Probably most of us would take a Lizard IV in a heart beat ! Lizard IV? I would give a lizard a big wet kiss if it would cure my Lyme Disease! Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 1999 Report Share Posted January 7, 1999 Thats for sure, the rodents are the worst carriers. That is how I got bit. In my classroom, the entire school building was mice infested. I am petrified of rodents leaving their tick pals here and there. Connie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 1999 Report Share Posted January 11, 1999 In response to the posts about getting rid of all the deer to get rid of ticks I have to say I am in agreement with previous posters - probably won't work. BUT I do have to say a couple of things here. Some time ago I spoke with an entymologist (sp) who said that 100 years ago this disease was here it was just called something else then the deer population was hunted off, then the animal rights people got involved and the population came back - the only deer left was on indian reservations in upper MN and they mated with those from the UP and Canada and then migrated down the east coast. If you look at the diseases that WE think are connected to LD you would probably find that they too rose with the deer population so maybe getting rid of the deer isn't such a bad idea because they migrate farther then any of the other animals that these ticks are attracted to (except birds of course). There are NO natural predators for deer. Out west the wolves or coyotes may keep the population down but they are getting rid of them so it won't work for long. The only thing that keeps down the deer are hunting and automobiles. Maybe if you increase the hunting season or even encourage hunting it would help. My current thought about tick control would have to be fires! This could really work well I think. You couldn't just let everyone go crazy burning fields though. Ticks prefer grassy areas so if you burn fields you could probably get rid of thousands of ticks. I thought also I read somewhere once that forest fires (controlled moderation of course ) are actually kind of good for the soil (I think). This could be a new job oppurtunity. Think about it - companies that actually specialized in burning your fields without burning down the woods or your house. The grasses would not come back for a year or so. OK maybe I am crazy but it sounds good?? Kathleen ( trying to survive 5 degree temps and thinking of all things warm) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 1999 Report Share Posted January 11, 1999 Hi Kathleen, Where are you from, it is below zero here in Michigan. I think you are right about the diseases and deer population. Since lyme " minics " all sorts of stuff and people have been getting ill for years what you said makes sense. Michigan has the second highest deer population in the country and our health dept says the ticks do not cross county lines. It is only in one county up north. They actually told me the ticks get off when the deer enter another county. I told them I might have Lyme, but I was not that stupid that ticks could read road signs!!!!! Connie, freezing in MI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 1999 Report Share Posted January 11, 1999 YEAH LOVETTE, good idea. We can all bet that there would be hardly any LLD left Thanks Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 1999 Report Share Posted January 11, 1999 Lovette, Now you're talking! And donate the ticks to the herd of un-LLMDs who think they know all about Lyme. I once told my un-Lyme literate ID that I wished I could put him in a machine and let him feel my pain. He said he didn't need to. I would recommend him for the herd. Cold in Florida On Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:33:40 -0500 " F. Mott " <smott@...> writes: >From: " F. Mott " <smott@...> > >Fyikat@... wrote: >> >> From: Fyikat@... >> >> In response to the posts about getting rid of all the deer to get >rid of ticks... > >Dear Kathleen: Since I was one of the ones who responded to Alison >early on, I just wanted to say that I was just joking! I would rather >round up all of the doctors than all of the deer! > >Lovette >> > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 1999 Report Share Posted January 11, 1999 Fyikat@... wrote: > > From: Fyikat@... > > In response to the posts about getting rid of all the deer to get rid of ticks... Dear Kathleen: Since I was one of the ones who responded to Alison early on, I just wanted to say that I was just joking! I would rather round up all of the doctors than all of the deer! Lovette > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 1999 Report Share Posted January 11, 1999 Dear : Perhaps we should compile a list of those who should be in the herd! What would their brand look like? Lovette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 1999 Report Share Posted January 12, 1999 Connie, Hi. I am in Cincinnati. We have been having some below 0 temps with windchills of -20. You aren't serious about the ticks getting off when the deer cross county lines are you? Please tell me you aren't!! Kathleen >They actually told me the ticks get off when the deer enter another county. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 1999 Report Share Posted January 12, 1999 >> I would rather round up all of the doctors than all of the deer! Lovette, Now this I think would probably work quite nicely!!! Take Care, Kathleen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 1999 Report Share Posted January 12, 1999 Hi Lovette, I've been thinking about that brand and the best I can come up with is one of those red circles with a line through it superimposed over a caducis. On Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:02:18 -0500 " F. Mott " <smott@...> writes: >From: " F. Mott " <smott@...> > >Dear : Perhaps we should compile a list of those who should be >in >the herd! What would their brand look like? > >Lovette > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 1999 Report Share Posted January 12, 1999 Hi Kathleen, I sure am. Read the post I just sent Debbie P. and they wonder why we have such trouble here in Michigan. We got 3- 4 inches of snow today and another 3 to be here by morning. I love the snow, but as I age, I sure am getting tired of it being up past my knees. hugs, Connie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 1999 Report Share Posted January 12, 1999 > > > In response to the posts about getting rid of all the deer to get rid of ticks... > > Dear Kathleen: Since I was one of the ones who responded to Alison > early on, I just wanted to say that I was just joking! I would rather > round up all of the doctors than all of the deer! > > Lovette > > Amen to that!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As a last remark to the rounding up of the deer issue...that sounds to me like the Utopia of paranoia! And the idea involves a load of money and time that would be better spent coming up with a VIABLE solution to the problem!!!!! Alison -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 www.healthyforyourpet.com has a product with the following ingredients Garlic, Yerba Santa, Goldenrod, Tobacco with Flower Essences of Tansy, Broccoli, Elder, B-1, Zucchini for emotional balance. Taken orally SuziKathy <vanokat@...> wrote: Hi everyone, We are having a horrendous problem with ticks! They are everywhere. Everyone of my kids have had them on them - needles to say so have the dogs. It is terrible - nothing I have tried is working. The dogs were treated with Frontline but even that poison is not helping. Pretty aggressive little creatures this year for what ever reason. Anyone have any suggestions on a deterrent ? Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Most animals are hosts for ticks now. It's not just the deer that are carrying them. My cats have brought the ticks into my house. I've found them around their mouths. They are big into catching mice/moles and birds. I've heard that raccoons, skunks, squirrels, birds, mice, etc. can now carry ticks. They feed on just about any animal they can hitch hike on to. Not all ticks carry Lyme/co-infections, but I got bit by a few and one of them was the one I got infected by. I believe it was brought into the house by my cats. I use Frontline, and am thinking of using something else, my cats freak out everytime I put it on them. I'd freak too, it's a dangerous chemical. I wish there was something organic that I could put on them, or feed to them. Any U.S. tax advice contained in the body of this e-mail was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by the recipient for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions. ________________________________________________________________________ The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Notice required by law: This e-mail may constitute an advertisement or solicitation under U.S. law, if its primary purpose is to advertise or promote a commercial product or service. You may choose not to receive advertising and promotional messages from Ernst & Young LLP (except for Ernst & Young Online and the ey.com website, which track e-mail preferences through a separate process) at this e-mail address by forwarding this message to no-more-mail@.... If you do so, the sender of this message will be notified promptly. Our principal postal address is 5 Times Square, New York, NY 10036. Thank you. Ernst & Young LLP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 > > I've heard that raccoons, skunks, squirrels, birds, mice, etc. can now > carry ticks. They feed on just about any animal they can hitch hike on > to. yes, nowhere to hide. > Not all ticks carry Lyme/co-infections, but I got bit by a few and one of > them was the one I got infected by. in several EU countries 20-30% of ticks are infected. If the tests were more sensitive probably the number would be even higher. With such high numbers it is best to treat any tick as potentially infected. > I wish there was something organic that I could put on them, or feed to > them. I don't have pets at the moment so I don't follow this issue closely, but my impression is that there are no safe alternatives that are really effective. The relatively safe stuff gives about a 50% or maybe 75% reduction in risk, but that means there is considerable risk left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 I make that same blend , how much did you pay for it as I share it right now with others ..... In a message dated 3/30/2010 5:57:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, sonyafly@... writes: I just got some natural flea & tick repellent that has a very pleasant scent that you would spray on your dos daily before they go out. Just got it today. Not sure when flea & tick season is. It's from www.pugleys-choice.com. It's called 'Stop Bug-gin' Me! " . Has some tangerine peel oil, geranium oil, etc. -Sonya Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed [ ] Re: Ticks From what I understood from a study (recent, I think), Bb etc can be passed prenatally on to the tick's BABIES, regardless of the host. I agree, understanding why some species do not suffer from these diseases could be valuable. (Used to be the fame and fortune from exalted university positions and ensuing grants from discovering something was enough.... but those don't happen anymore either.) We picked many bloated ones off our dogs and some off ourselves before we knew anything about Lyme. It's been reported migrating birds carry them as well, which makes sense. (I do think there are too many deer in any case, it's been reported there's more now than ever; between preservation efforts and the number of hunters declining, their population has surged in the US. But deer have gotten smarter - we had 40 ac that no one hunted on for many years. Then my DH started; within 3 years, there were no visible deer during hunting season. They lay low. The rest of the year they were playing with our dogs, seriously.) > > Most animals are hosts for ticks now. It's not just the deer that are > carrying them. > > My cats have brought the ticks into my house. I've found them around > their mouths. They are big into catching mice/moles and birds. > > I've heard that raccoons, skunks, squirrels, birds, mice, etc. can now > carry ticks. They feed on just about any animal they can hitch hike on > to. > > Not all ticks carry Lyme/co-infections, but I got bit by a few and one of > them was the one I got infected by. I believe it was brought into the > house by my cats. > > I use Frontline, and am thinking of using something else, my cats freak > out everytime I put it on them. I'd freak too, it's a dangerous chemical. > > I wish there was something organic that I could put on them, or feed to > them. > > > > > > Any U.S. tax advice contained in the body of this e-mail was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by the recipient for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions. >________________________________________________________________________ > The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. > > Notice required by law: This e-mail may constitute an advertisement or solicitation under U.S. law, if its primary purpose is to advertise or promote a commercial product or service. You may choose not to receive advertising and promotional messages from Ernst & Young LLP (except for Ernst & Young Online and the ey.com website, which track e-mail preferences through a separate process) at this e-mail address by forwarding this message to no-more-mail@... If you do so, the sender of this message will be notified promptly. Our principal postal address is 5 Times Square, New York, NY 10036. Thank you. Ernst & Young LLP > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Buy Healing Lyme: Natural Healing And Prevention of Lyme Borreliosis And Its Coinfections by Buhner at one of these locations: http://tinyurl.com/3bgm5d Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 From what I understood from a study (recent, I think), Bb etc can be passed prenatally on to the tick's BABIES, regardless of the host. I agree, understanding why some species do not suffer from these diseases could be valuable. (Used to be the fame and fortune from exalted university positions and ensuing grants from discovering something was enough.... but those don't happen anymore either.) We picked many bloated ones off our dogs and some off ourselves before we knew anything about Lyme. It's been reported migrating birds carry them as well, which makes sense. (I do think there are too many deer in any case, it's been reported there's more now than ever; between preservation efforts and the number of hunters declining, their population has surged in the US. But deer have gotten smarter - we had 40 ac that no one hunted on for many years. Then my DH started; within 3 years, there were no visible deer during hunting season. They lay low. The rest of the year they were playing with our dogs, seriously.) > > Most animals are hosts for ticks now. It's not just the deer that are > carrying them. > > My cats have brought the ticks into my house. I've found them around > their mouths. They are big into catching mice/moles and birds. > > I've heard that raccoons, skunks, squirrels, birds, mice, etc. can now > carry ticks. They feed on just about any animal they can hitch hike on > to. > > Not all ticks carry Lyme/co-infections, but I got bit by a few and one of > them was the one I got infected by. I believe it was brought into the > house by my cats. > > I use Frontline, and am thinking of using something else, my cats freak > out everytime I put it on them. I'd freak too, it's a dangerous chemical. > > I wish there was something organic that I could put on them, or feed to > them. > > > > > > Any U.S. tax advice contained in the body of this e-mail was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by the recipient for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions. > ________________________________________________________________________ > The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. > > Notice required by law: This e-mail may constitute an advertisement or solicitation under U.S. law, if its primary purpose is to advertise or promote a commercial product or service. You may choose not to receive advertising and promotional messages from Ernst & Young LLP (except for Ernst & Young Online and the ey.com website, which track e-mail preferences through a separate process) at this e-mail address by forwarding this message to no-more-mail@... If you do so, the sender of this message will be notified promptly. Our principal postal address is 5 Times Square, New York, NY 10036. Thank you. Ernst & Young LLP > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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