Re: Re: Gal stones and gal bladder

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Please excuse me for butting in, but I have a question

or two. You may have already said, but how old is your

daughter? These pains in the chest, are they

generalized? In other words, not in a specific

location all of the time? Are they sharp like needles

or dull like pressure?

The reason I ask is that when I had problems with my

liver, I had sharp, needle like pains in differing

areas of my chest. I went to the hospital thinking it

was a heart attack, which it wasn't. My enzyme levels

were up as well.

Good thoughts and prayers to your daughter, and to you

as well. Keep us informed.

Peace, love, laughter

--- Debbie <aromatic_wings@...> wrote:

> Thanks Suzi,

> Update: Well they are thinking there is more wrong

> with my daughter

> now.. They say her liver enzymes are up... might be

> hepatitis.. but

> what I can not figure out are the chest pains she

> has.. I think they

> ruled out any heart attacks but they are keeing her

> another night for

> more tests. I will pass this information on to her.

> Hoping she will

> follow it.. Any idea how soo these things work??

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Deb,

I'll answer this in full later (at work).. but all that soda and sweets will cause all kinds of wierd things to happen to a body... I do agree a definite cleanse/fast is in order... water would be the best.... apple/carrot would be my second choice ..Debbie <aromatic_wings@...> wrote:

HISTORY:Well, typical daughter and her diet consists of lots of sodas, processed foods and sweet.. yuppers I know she needs to stop all these things... that would be in a perfect world.. she is an adult and her diet is up to her.. maybe this new gall bladder problem will shock some life into her...Anyway when she was in labor room with her second some... the doctor was worried about a murmer in her heart. this was during labor. which i have been told is common. with her third son just 2 years ago the doctor was informed about her second labor and the murmer.. just to keep her posted for things to look out for. she stated my daughter did not have any problem sith any murmers at this time.Since she was a teen she always complained about a pain in the tummy area while laying on a carpeted floor.. drs.. said there was

nothing they could find.She seems to also have problems with reflux. Been given the prilosec for this ... Was also on dilantin at one time for a few seizures she had had. hasn't taken that for several years. but she has a little pharmacy of her own of pain pills and stuff for reflux in her purse at all times and according to her hubby she doesnt take these often... like she is not addicted. but to me just having taken them once in awhile keeps the meds in the system possibly messing with her liver.... she has had three prgnancies and all went well other then that small murmer they were not to worried about.with the research I have done in my short time with herbs and raw eating.. I know she needs to do a cleansing or fast.. told her the liquids they are giving her at the hospital are generally what they are trying to do there... she is on a liquid "diet" there. but they are giving her popsicles and ices and

jellos.. which to me are defeting the purpose... she is also getting a pain pill for the pain.... while they are taking a bunch of tests... all this info is what she and her hubby tell me that is being done.. I can not be there with her due to transportation problems.shaking head.. if i could just get her away from the processed foods and soads it would be a great start...she does not know how to cook much and he does the cooking for them... so we are trying to get her to learn.. she just doesnt want to... can't help those that won't help themselves right?? heavy sigh...> Give me the history on your daughter.... and her diet..... etc..>

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Deb,

Yikes. We know your daughter is buying into the Standard American Diet, but now she has lots of warning signs. I know as a parent we want our kids to change for the better, but are they wanting to? Does she want to? I know our first grandbaby is now 4 months old. I have been health nut for over 27 years seeing my husband off dilantin in 10 days, diagnosed with epilepsy and free within 6 weeks, but he "changed."

My daughter has already allowed the hospital, due to her ignorance and not saying no, to vaccinate the baby at the hospital. She is still thinking of continuing it. I have sent her lots of information. She said if she decides on moving forward with vaccinating, she is willing to suffer the consequence if something happens to this baby. So I'm just about finished supplying the information. She thinks I'm too "judgmental" as she calls it, when in fact I am too "informative" is what she really wants to say. I can't decide for her choices, but she can life up to her ignorance and pay the consequences. I'm spending time on encouraging those who want to change and that's why I have to figure out how to get my website up with information and materials at

be encouragednowDOTcom

beencouragenow.com

Take care. Oh, sadly your daughter will teaching the SAD way of living to the precious grandbabies....you can only be a light to the kids if they want to change...offer them healthy stuff at your place or in your presence especially if you are paying!

carol...Suzanne <suziesgoats@...> wrote:

Deb,

I'll answer this in full later (at work).. but all that soda and sweets will cause all kinds of wierd things to happen to a body... I do agree a definite cleanse/fast is in order... water would be the best.... apple/carrot would be my second choice ..Debbie <aromatic_wings@...> wrote:

HISTORY:Well, typical daughter and her diet consists of lots of sodas, processed foods and sweet.. yuppers I know she needs to stop all these things... that would be in a perfect world.. she is an adult and her diet is up to her.. maybe this new gall bladder problem will shock some life into her...Anyway when she was in labor room with her second some... the doctor was worried about a murmer in her heart. this was during labor. which i have been told is common. with her third son just 2 years ago the doctor was informed about her second labor and the murmer.. just to keep her posted for things to look out for. she stated my daughter did not have any problem sith any murmers at this time.Since she was a teen she always complained about a pain in the tummy area while laying on a carpeted floor.. drs.. said there was

nothing they could find.She seems to also have problems with reflux. Been given the prilosec for this ... Was also on dilantin at one time for a few seizures she had had. hasn't taken that for several years. but she has a little pharmacy of her own of pain pills and stuff for reflux in her purse at all times and according to her hubby she doesnt take these often... like she is not addicted. but to me just having taken them once in awhile keeps the meds in the system possibly messing with her liver.... she has had three prgnancies and all went well other then that small murmer they were not to worried about.with the research I have done in my short time with herbs and raw eating.. I know she needs to do a cleansing or fast.. told her the liquids they are giving her at the hospital are generally what they are trying to do there... she is on a liquid "diet" there. but they are giving her popsicles and ices and

jellos.. which to me are defeting the purpose... she is also getting a pain pill for the pain.... while they are taking a bunch of tests... all this info is what she and her hubby tell me that is being done.. I can not be there with her due to transportation problems.shaking head.. if i could just get her away from the processed foods and soads it would be a great start...she does not know how to cook much and he does the cooking for them... so we are trying to get her to learn.. she just doesnt want to... can't help those that won't help themselves right?? heavy sigh...> Give me the history on your daughter.... and her diet..... etc..>

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Deb,

It will bring you great peace in just giving the info. and letting it go. We all have the right to choose and for those with wisdom, as I call us that type of group, we check things out before acting. Doctors are quick to bring you back to fill their pocketbooks, but I'm sure there are the few exceptions. Just radical approach, but my personal experience.

My daughter claims not be drug oriented, but she's fooling herself. I'm sure she would have chosen your daughter's path too. Just so much easier to listen to the doctor then mom.

Carol....Debbie <aromatic_wings@...> wrote:

Carol,Geesh are you sure we don't have the same child there?? Sounds just like mine.. I just read her the gall bladder cleanse and I am still wondering if she will do it. She is being dismissed today from hospital and supposed to be going back in about a week.. in the mean time I suggested todo the cleansing.. hopefully she will try.. about the grandbabies... well I know the oldest tries to follow what Grandma says.. but it is hard when mom won't cooperate.. She is getting better... slowly as far as listening to me.. and now I can inform her that her body is giving those warning signs.. who know maybe enough will wer off on her... Good luck with your website...> Deb,>> My daughter has already allowed the hospital, due to her

ignorance

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Deb,

Is she a person who holds everything inside... instead of sharing and getting things off her chest so to speak.?

SuziDebbie <aromatic_wings@...> wrote:

She is 24... She has been under alot of financial stress lately... and of course eats the SAD ...but to answer your question. she stated that it was a sharp pain in the upper chest area..like almost to shoulder by collar bone. and sometimes under rib cage. X-rays showed she did have stones.. but dr seems to think she can pass them. I informed her about the gall bladder cleansing so maybe she will do that. Umm I can not recall which side she said they were on. They are wanting to say she has hepatitise but I know that if liver is clogged she may get a bit jaundiced... so I am praying she will stop the drinks for now and do the cleansing and eat fruits and veggies for now ... then when she goes back see what the dr says.. if it is better then that (to me) is what she needs to do and not have surgery...Thanks for your

help .> Please excuse me for butting in, but I have a question> or two. You may have already said, but how old is your> daughter? These pains in the chest, are they> generalized? In other words, not in a specific> location all of the time? Are they sharp like needles> or dull like pressure?> > The reason I ask is that when I had problems with my> liver, I had sharp, needle like pains in differing> areas of my chest. I went to the hospital thinking it> was a heart attack, which it wasn't. My enzyme levels> were up as well.> > Good thoughts and prayers to your daughter, and to you> as well. Keep us informed.> > Peace, love, laughter>

[Guest guest]

Does she drink alcohol? This, along with her diet,

could definitely lead to liver damage, along with

perscription meds, especially those " little purple

pills " .

If it is the liver, and it is a type of hep, she may

not even show outward signs, such as jaundice.

The gall bladder cleanse should take care of the

stones. There is a liver tea in the files that helped

me with my liver problems dramatically, along with

diet changes and cleanses. It tastes awful, but three

cups a day really will help.

Keep us updated!

Peace, love, laughter

--- Debbie <aromatic_wings@...> wrote:

>

> She is 24... She has been under alot of financial

> stress lately...

> and of course eats the SAD ...but to answer your

> question. she stated

> that it was a sharp pain in the upper chest

> area..like almost to

> shoulder by collar bone. and sometimes under rib

> cage. X-rays showed

> she did have stones.. but dr seems to think she can

> pass them. I

> informed her about the gall bladder cleansing so

> maybe she will do

> that. Umm I can not recall which side she said they

> were on. They are

> wanting to say she has hepatitise but I know that if

> liver is clogged

> she may get a bit jaundiced... so I am praying she

> will stop the

> drinks for now and do the cleansing and eat fruits

> and veggies for

> now ... then when she goes back see what the dr

> says.. if it is

> better then that (to me) is what she needs to do and

> not have

> surgery...

>

> Thanks for your help .

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i printed of the cleanses for her and some other things... and gave her three boxes of tea from the grocery store... a mint medly and one of just peppermint.. and a chamomile... so I am glad..i am in the right frame of mind... she just unexpectedly dropped by after her hubby picked her up from the hospital... told her to stop the soadas and do the cleansing... sowe will see what she does...she doesnt have a juicer or blender.. so she has to make due with what comes from the store..unfortunatelySuzanne <suziesgoats@...> wrote:

Yes, you do with what you can...tell her to lay off the soda for beginners... do some deep breathing exercises also. She is going to have to clean up her diet some....if not all together.

No doubt this is "heartburn" ... My ex had this so bad they thought he was having a heart attack... turned out it was heartburn... he kept everything inside and let it eat at him... they suggested I think maalox.... drink a 1/2 bottle when it started... that was years ago..

For indigestion and heartburn;

Gingerroot It is known to quell nausea and aid digestion.

Chamomile This herb calms gastric spasms and soothes the digestive tract. To make a tea, pour 1 cup boiling water over 2 to 3 teaspoons (or one tea bag) of finely chopped flowers. Let steep, then strain before drinking.

Peppermint The volatile oil in peppermint dispels gas and calms cramps. Pour 1 cup boiling water over 1 tablespoon chopped dried leaves. Steep, then strain and drink.

Fennel It is a carminative, an agent that helps dispel gas from the intestines. To make a tea, steep 1 teaspoon crushed dried seeds in 1 cup boiling water, then strain. Or chew 11/4 teaspoons of seeds after a meal.

"You are like whitewashed tombs which indeed appear beautiful outwardly, but inside are full of dead men's bones and all uncleanness." 23:27

[Guest guest]

Deb,

Too bad daughter's hubby lacks respect for his wife. Kids are quick to see this and hope they don't take after their father. How sad. Maybe that's how he grew up, but still she doesn't deserve that type of treatment. Just my 2 cents. We can pray for her.

carolDebbie <aromatic_wings@...> wrote:

No not really but her hubby sometimes justpho phoos her and blows any complaints off... doesnt take her seriously or just doesn't respect her much... she gets really stressed (and has been alot lately) with her kids and their situation. hubby has to work to keep things going since they live barely from one paycheck to the next.. really needing something they can get at like a grocery store...I realize and know organic is alot better but will the gall bladder thing work even with the grocery store kind of olive oil... they cant afford the good stuff...> Deb,