Re: bladder issues...sos? lol

[Guest guest]

---it sounds like the type of cystitis[most doctors never heard of

it!!they look at yopu like you are a hypochondriac] which is hard to

get rid of; I had it until they put an old fashined black medicine

into the bladder and left it ten minutes...it was a non specific

bacteria.the trip to the urologist was worth it...he didn't do a lot

of expensive tests,

but its possible you have a kidney problem but it could be frm the

bladder ittitation anyway.

Rica

In health , " Tone " <tone102@p...>

wrote:

> Good Morning All,

>

> I pray this Wednesday finds you all well. I am sure many are

sharing the very hot and humid weather we are having. One would think

since I live in a sauna I would at least drop a couple of pounds but

noooooo...hehe oh well

>

> The subject line is many times a stumper for me. I could have

worded it quite a few ways

> Thought maybe I would throw this out there to get some thoughts and

hopefully some advice. See how I run to my trusted friends? {{{Hugs

and Kisses}}}

> OK..for over a decade now I have had abdominal pressure with an

urge to wee. Lately it has become so bad that I need to take

something to sleep so I can sleep because I cannot lie down. Sitting

up is tolerable. The abdominal pressure is constant and there is on

and off burning and not just with urination but all the time. As I

said this is tolerable. There are no other symptoms indicative of any

kind of infection.

> I feel the need to 'go " probably an average of 40-50 times a day.

That would not be so bothersome if I COULD go but I cannot. I feel as

though there is a stopper there and this is very uncomfortable. Lying

down is the worse and when I try to do so, I just need to get up and

so I am up and down for quite a long time before I am actually tired

enough to drift off. There is also pain in the lower back which

sometimes radiates to my shoulders but not all the time. The lower

back pain mostly only occurs when lying down. Sleeping sitting up is

giving me whiplash..LOL

> My diet is as decent as I can afford but it is high raw. No meat

and no junk. Well an occasional cookie here and there I drink alot

of water. I have no AC here so I have to!

>

> So to end this drama now, any thoughts or suggestions? I have not

had a gyno appt. in a while. Like most women it is not my favorite

place.

>

> Thankyou all as always

> Have a beautiful and blessed day and be well.

> Toni

[Guest guest]

Hello Rica,

Hope all is well with you. Thankyou for responding to my plea.. Today is a bad day with constant lower back pain and achy bones and general malaise so I guess there is something going on in there...doh! hehe..

I always thought that urologists were primarily for men. Thankyou for that info. I am searching about on something maybe that can alleviate it but hard when one does not know the cause. If it is bothersome like this for long then I might have to go and get it checked. Not having insurance does not help but not feeling well is also not worth it.

Thankyou Rica. Be well and have a beautiful and blessed day.

Tone

---it sounds like the type of cystitis[most doctors never heard of it!!they look at yopu like you are a hypochondriac] which is hard to get rid of; I had it until they put an old fashined black medicine into the bladder and left it ten minutes...it was a non specific bacteria.the trip to the urologist was worth it...he didn't do a lot of expensive tests,but its possible you have a kidney problem but it could be frm the bladder ittitation anyway.Rica

[Guest guest]

---oh yes the name is INTERSTITIAL cystitis.

and you're welcome. I went thru 6 little chronic things between age

35 and 45..sometimes they are related to the ups and downs of your

female hormones.

Rica

In health , " Tone " <tone102@p...>

wrote:

> Hello Rica,

>

> Hope all is well with you. Thankyou for responding to my

plea.. Today is a bad day with constant lower back pain and achy

bones and general malaise so I guess there is something going on in

there...doh! hehe..

> I always thought that urologists were primarily for men. Thankyou

for that info. I am searching about on something maybe that can

alleviate it but hard when one does not know the cause. If it is

bothersome like this for long then I might have to go and get it

checked. Not having insurance does not help but not feeling well is

also not worth it.

> Thankyou Rica. Be well and have a beautiful and blessed day.

>

> Tone

> ---it sounds like the type of cystitis[most doctors never heard of

> it!!they look at yopu like you are a hypochondriac] which is hard

to

> get rid of; I had it until they put an old fashined black medicine

> into the bladder and left it ten minutes...it was a non specific

> bacteria.the trip to the urologist was worth it...he didn't do a

lot

> of expensive tests,

> but its possible you have a kidney problem but it could be frm the

> bladder ittitation anyway.

> Rica

[Guest guest]

Hi Tone,

Here is how I have resolved bladder ''infections or problems'' successfully in the past:

1. Drink water constantly. That is what I mean, too!

2. No spices, no caffeine, no alcohol. If you stop these, then take them again, you will

see that the irritation. reoccurs! Once all is well, these can be resumed.

3. Take uva ursi, corn silk herbs, teas, or mixtures. I believe there is still a Dr. Christoper

water pill that has these; or make teas. Drink as much as possible of these herb teas,

or take large amounts of the water pill capsules.

Hope ya feel better. And...try to get hold of this because if it is an infection, it can travel

UPWARD into the kidneys where bigger trouble can ensue. #2 is of utmost importance.

Hopefully, Sue

Hello Rica,

Hope all is well with you. Thankyou for responding to my plea.. Today is a bad day with constant lower back pain and achy bones and general malaise so I guess there is something going on in there...doh! hehe..

I always thought that urologists were primarily for men. Thankyou for that info. I am searching about on something maybe that can alleviate it but hard when one does not know the cause. If it is bothersome like this for long then I might have to go and get it checked. Not having insurance does not help but not feeling well is also not worth it.

Thankyou Rica. Be well and have a beautiful and blessed day.

Tone

---it sounds like the type of cystitis[most doctors never heard of it!!they look at yopu like you are a hypochondriac] which is hard to get rid of; I had it until they put an old fashined black medicine into the bladder and left it ten minutes...it was a non specific bacteria.the trip to the urologist was worth it...he didn't do a lot of expensive tests,but its possible you have a kidney problem but it could be frm the bladder ittitation anyway.Rica

[Guest guest]

Still drinking beer???

Toni,

Your body is telling you you need to cleanse big time.. even fast... tried any cranberry juice??

are you taking your super tonic? Several times a day? golden seal or garlic , or uva ursi would be good choices..

Stop the sugars, caffeines, alcohol and dairy..

How about some relaxing epsom salt baths??

It sounds sort of like pelvic inflamatory disease but not totally sure of this.

suzi

Tone <tone102@...> wrote:

Good Morning All,

I pray this Wednesday finds you all well. I am sure many are sharing the very hot and humid weather we are having. One would think since I live in a sauna I would at least drop a couple of pounds but noooooo...hehe oh well

The subject line is many times a stumper for me. I could have worded it quite a few ways

Thought maybe I would throw this out there to get some thoughts and hopefully some advice. See how I run to my trusted friends? {{{Hugs and Kisses}}}

OK..for over a decade now I have had abdominal pressure with an urge to wee. Lately it has become so bad that I need to take something to sleep so I can sleep because I cannot lie down. Sitting up is tolerable. The abdominal pressure is constant and there is on and off burning and not just with urination but all the time. As I said this is tolerable. There are no other symptoms indicative of any kind of infection.

I feel the need to 'go" probably an average of 40-50 times a day. That would not be so bothersome if I COULD go but I cannot. I feel as though there is a stopper there and this is very uncomfortable. Lying down is the worse and when I try to do so, I just need to get up and so I am up and down for quite a long time before I am actually tired enough to drift off. There is also pain in the lower back which sometimes radiates to my shoulders but not all the time. The lower back pain mostly only occurs when lying down. Sleeping sitting up is giving me whiplash..LOL

My diet is as decent as I can afford but it is high raw. No meat and no junk. Well an occasional cookie here and there I drink alot of water. I have no AC here so I have to!

So to end this drama now, any thoughts or suggestions? I have not had a gyno appt. in a while. Like most women it is not my favorite place.

Suzi

What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered.

http://suziesgoats.wholefoodfarmacy.com/__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi Toni,

On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 08:17:13 -0400, Tone wrote:

> I feel the need to 'go " probably an average of 40-50 times a day. That would

not be so

bothersome if I COULD go but I cannot. I feel as though there is a stopper there

and this

is very uncomfortable. Lying down is the worse and when I try to do so, I just

need to get

up and so I am up and down for quite a long time before I am actually tired

enough to drift

off. There is also pain in the lower back which sometimes radiates to my

shoulders but not

all the time. The lower back pain mostly only occurs when lying down. Sleeping

sitting up is

I can only offer an opinion, sounds definitely like a bad case of cystitis to

me.

Classic symptoms. Others have given you the good avice, you just need to follow

it.

As someone mentioned this can turn into a nasty kidney infection too.

Best of luck hope you feel better soon,

regards

Persian

" As long as people will shed the blood of innocent creatures there can be no

peace, no liberty, no harmony between people. Slaughter and justice cannot

dwell together " - Isaac Bashevis Singer

" Atrocities are not less atrocities when they occur in laboratories and are

called medical research " - Bernard Shaw

'The question is not, can they reason? Nor can they talk? But can they suffer?

Bentham.

[Guest guest]

How often you taking the super tonic? (and no i know you don't drink all the time)

Toni, You know you're going to have problems until you cleanse/fast and start changing what and how you eat... An occasional beer won't really hurt once you''ve got your back in shape... but beer, sugar, dairy, caffeine, etc just keeps adding on - building the mountain you have to climb higher. in order to slide down the other side to health - When you're operating at a good level, going astray is not as hard on the body and it is easier for you and it to handle an occasional beer, or chocolate or whatever... but it can't do it if it is already loaded with toxins..It is like a kitchen pipe that is partially clogged... the more you put down it the worse it gets till it backs up... But if you clean it out and then keep it clean, it flows freely and never backs up..

Your body has been telling you for awhile now what it needs -- What is a week or two compared to a lifetime??? Try doing a fast/cleanse, totally raw for a week or so -- it will help to rid your body of toxins and pollutants that are making you ill....come on Toni, we want you around here for a long time.

Suzi

Tone <tone102@...> wrote:

Good Afternoon All,

Hope this Friday finds you all well. I have not been on the computer and am drowning here in emails..Thankyou to everyone who responded to my post. I have to sort through when I can and will respond individually. Yesterday was a bad day with a fever but could be totally unrelated. Yes, Suzi I am taking my super tonic Strangely enough when I drink beer I do not have the symptoms. Granted this is not an every day thing so please do not think I drink constantly. It is mostly a weekly indulgence or when my guyfriend is here. I do not go out of my way to buy it to drink it. As I said, daytime is tolerable. It is just the nighttime that is rough.

Suzi

What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered.

http://suziesgoats.wholefoodfarmacy.com/__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Amen. I can even give you a daily call as long as it works with my cell free minutes and your evening time. I'm much gone in evenings, but can fit you in if you are going for it. Why not give it a try??????????????? Your guyfriend can also help you by taking you out for perhaps a nice veggie drink! Are you near a health food store or such where freshly made juices are available. Let him treat you. How about it girlfirend?

I just finished off probably 1/2-3/4 pounds of spring greens (bought at Costco $3.59 pound organic too) , added fresh tomatoes, cukes, garlic, olive oil, smidge of raw apple cider vinegar..mixed it all together and two large plates later I am dreaming 'salad' again. Just can't get enough of the fresh stuff anyway. Last night bought 3 cantaloupes too, and I finished off a whole myself before. Have to head out later and buy more. Fresh doesn't go bad here--hardly!

carolSuzanne <suziesgoats@...> wrote:

How often you taking the super tonic? (and no i know you don't drink all the time)

Toni, You know you're going to have problems until you cleanse/fast and start changing what and how you eat... An occasional beer won't really hurt once you''ve got your back in shape... but beer, sugar, dairy, caffeine, etc just keeps adding on - building the mountain you have to climb higher. in order to slide down the other side to health - When you're operating at a good level, going astray is not as hard on the body and it is easier for you and it to handle an occasional beer, or chocolate or whatever... but it can't do it if it is already loaded with toxins..It is like a kitchen pipe that is partially clogged... the more you put down it the worse it gets till it backs up... But if you clean it out and then keep it clean, it flows freely and never backs up..

Your body has been telling you for awhile now what it needs -- What is a week or two compared to a lifetime??? Try doing a fast/cleanse, totally raw for a week or so -- it will help to rid your body of toxins and pollutants that are making you ill....come on Toni, we want you around here for a long time.

Suzi

Tone <tone102@...> wrote:

Good Afternoon All,

Hope this Friday finds you all well. I have not been on the computer and am drowning here in emails..Thankyou to everyone who responded to my post. I have to sort through when I can and will respond individually. Yesterday was a bad day with a fever but could be totally unrelated. Yes, Suzi I am taking my super tonic Strangely enough when I drink beer I do not have the symptoms. Granted this is not an every day thing so please do not think I drink constantly. It is mostly a weekly indulgence or when my guyfriend is here. I do not go out of my way to buy it to drink it. As I said, daytime is tolerable. It is just the nighttime that is rough.

[Guest guest]

Hi Suzi,

Thankyou so much again. I am so behind on my emails. I easily get lost in here and this group is only one of only a few that I chose to get mail from. This is my favorite place so I need to have ya'll here

I am taking the super tonic daily, several times a day. Heck...no one else wants it!

As far as changing how I eat....? I mean I do not eat all that badly I don't think. I do not eat meat or dairy products with the exception of an occassional raw egg yolk and I am off of that for a while since the last one last week made me feel ill. OK so the morning coffee I guess can go and I can do without the beer. I drink alot of water. Foodwise it is tough for me as I really am picky. Last week consisted of spinach leaves, a peach (blech), an avocado and a couple of yolks. That was it. Today I am sick with my stomach so nothing is going in. Hey, wouldn't that be fasting? hehe..

I am better off not doing a water fast solely because of past eating habits meaning that if I start to abstain from food I will get in the habit and keep abstaining.

I really need someone to feed me...LOL It is so hard not knowing what to eat. I am not crazy about fruits and bought some peaches as they were on sale. They are still in that fridge.

As far as you wanting me around for a long time. I appreciate that. No worries. I should have been dead many times over already. God is just not ready for me yet

You had mentioned cranberry juice. What kind? Bottled stuff like Ocean Spray makes me sick to my stomach. I would think maybe something out there that is unsweetened. I did purchase OTC pills put out by Monistat called Uristat but I have been nauseas and have not been able to try them. I am not much of a pill happy person anyway.

I tell ya, I would really make one lousy Fear Factor contestant.

Thanks to all

Hope you are having a wonderful and blessed day.

Love and hugs,

Toni

How often you taking the super tonic? (and no i know you don't drink all the time)

Toni, You know you're going to have problems until you cleanse/fast and start changing what and how you eat... An occasional beer won't really hurt once you''ve got your back in shape... but beer, sugar, dairy, caffeine, etc just keeps adding on - building the mountain you have to climb higher. in order to slide down the other side to health - When you're operating at a good level, going astray is not as hard on the body and it is easier for you and it to handle an occasional beer, or chocolate or whatever... but it can't do it if it is already loaded with toxins..It is like a kitchen pipe that is partially clogged... the more you put down it the worse it gets till it backs up... But if you clean it out and then keep it clean, it flows freely and never backs up..

Your body has been telling you for awhile now what it needs -- What is a week or two compared to a lifetime??? Try doing a fast/cleanse, totally raw for a week or so -- it will help to rid your body of toxins and pollutants that are making you ill....come on Toni, we want you around here for a long time.

Suzi

[Guest guest]

Ok, how about this... lets try eating veggies one day and fruits the next.. alternate.. Do you like veggies? Do you have a juicer? and drink lots of lemon water. for a week. Think you can do this? Continue your tonic.. If you have to have a cup of coffee - a small one and only one a day. We'll start there. Also, hot and cold showers... start with hot, alternate every 6-7 seconds - 7 times ending on hot or warm. And if you can fit it in , epsom salt baths... make yourself a cup of ginger tea and relax in a nice hot bath before bed.

Now your body is going to start detoxing... and you'll have good and bad days.. but that is normal. I would suggest more veggies (greens) than fruits if you can.Tone <tone102@...> wrote:

Hi Suzi,

Thankyou so much again. I am so behind on my emails. I easily get lost in here and this group is only one of only a few that I chose to get mail from. This is my favorite place so I need to have ya'll here

I am taking the super tonic daily, several times a day. Heck...no one else wants it!

As far as changing how I eat....? I mean I do not eat all that badly I don't think. I do not eat meat or dairy products with the exception of an occassional raw egg yolk and I am off of that for a while since the last one last week made me feel ill. OK so the morning coffee I guess can go and I can do without the beer. I drink alot of water. Foodwise it is tough for me as I really am picky. Last week consisted of spinach leaves, a peach (blech), an avocado and a couple of yolks. That was it. Today I am sick with my stomach so nothing is going in. Hey, wouldn't that be fasting? hehe..

I am better off not doing a water fast solely because of past eating habits meaning that if I start to abstain from food I will get in the habit and keep abstaining.

I really need someone to feed me...LOL It is so hard not knowing what to eat. I am not crazy about fruits and bought some peaches as they were on sale. They are still in that fridge.

As far as you wanting me around for a long time. I appreciate that. No worries. I should have been dead many times over already. God is just not ready for me yet

You had mentioned cranberry juice. What kind? Bottled stuff like Ocean Spray makes me sick to my stomach. I would think maybe something out there that is unsweetened. I did purchase OTC pills put out by Monistat called Uristat but I have been nauseas and have not been able to try them. I am not much of a pill happy person anyway.

Start your day with - make it your home page

[Guest guest]

Morning Suzi and all,

Hope this beautiful Saturday morning will find you all well. Thanks so much Suzi. Yesterday was one heck of a day with this morning not faring much better. Got some kind of stomach bug going on and cannot even handle water. Running a fever and just feel really blah! But oh well...it happens

Yes, I can do what you suggest though I think those hot and cold showers might kill me lol What are the epsom salt baths for? I always think of epsom salts used for pains and sprains and such. I love my veggies, it is just fruits that I am not fond of. Juicer is old and cheap and wastes too much or I would be doing those more often.

As far as me having good and bad days...no sweat I have those now.

Guess I need to find me a one cup coffee maker. I usually drink the pot but I can get over it. As for beer, at least right now the thought is far from my mind. I do not need it. It is more just a habit with us. If he is not around, I will not buy it and therefor not drink.

I appreciate everyone's concern and thoughts. My outlook is messed up (not mine LOL but the email prog)so there are so many emails in triplicate, I still need to find the time to sit here and sort.

Have a beautiful and blessed day All

Tone

Ok, how about this... lets try eating veggies one day and fruits the next.. alternate.. Do you like veggies? Do you have a juicer? and drink lots of lemon water. for a week. Think you can do this? Continue your tonic.. If you have to have a cup of coffee - a small one and only one a day. We'll start there. Also, hot and cold showers... start with hot, alternate every 6-7 seconds - 7 times ending on hot or warm. And if you can fit it in , epsom salt baths... make yourself a cup of ginger tea and relax in a nice hot bath before bed.

Now your body is going to start detoxing... and you'll have good and bad days.. but that is normal. I would suggest more veggies (greens) than fruits if you can.