Cod Liver Oil

[Guest guest]

:

I squeeze the open capsules on toasted rice bread and cover it with almond

butter. My son doesn't seem to notice it and he's quite good at spotting

supplements when I try to sneak them into his food.

Joyce

[ ] Cod Liver Oil

>

> Hi,

> I bought some cod liver oil(liquid) from Kirkland. My son refuses to take

it.

> the taste and smell. I have tried covering it up in drinks, " icing " type

> foods. Any ideas from the experts?

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

If he likes jelly, give hin 1/2 teaspoon of it to stimulate sweet taste buds,

than put the oil with some more jelly on a spoon, give it and have a third

spoon of jelly ready to wash down the oil/jelly spoon. It works for us.

Beverly

[Guest guest]

Try rubbing it on his skin:)

[ ] Cod Liver Oil

>

>Hi,

>I bought some cod liver oil(liquid) from Kirkland. My son refuses to take

it.

>the taste and smell. I have tried covering it up in drinks, " icing " type

>foods. Any ideas from the experts?

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Kris-

>Any idea why the differences? What would be the appropriate dose for a 70

>year old?

I'm not sure what an appropriate dose would be, though I suspect an older

person, having suffered more of the slings and arrows of outrageous diet

(sorry!) than younger people might need more. As to the difference between

the two oils, based on that table I'd say go for the Premier! People

really need very little EFAs, but with modern food sources it's very, very

hard to acquire adequate fat-soluble vitamins. I've been meaning to try

Radiant Life's CLO, but I'll see which has a higher vitamin content before

switching from Carlson's. Thanks for the table!

-

[Guest guest]

I think Krispin Sullivan mentioned in the last Wise Tradition issue that there

is a sort of CLO called high-vitamin oil -- taken from the bottom of the

barrel. Most of oil sold in US, she said, is light.

Roman

Kris wrote:

> I'm puzzled about the quantities of nutrients in cod liver oil. I have been

> taking the product from Premier Research Labs, which was recommended

> somewhere on this list or on the WAAP website - can't find the reference

> now. But at the Wise Tradition conference Dr Ron Schmidt and Krispin

> Sullivan recommended Carlson cod liver oil, so I got some of that. Although

> both are good Norwegian CLO they are quite different in nutrient content.

> I've been taking a tsp of the Premier, but not sure how much Carlson I'll

> take.

>

> Premier Carlson

> Serving size 1/2 tsp 1 tsp

> Vitamin A 5,750 IU 2000 to 2500 IU

> Vitamin D 575 IU 400 to 500 IU

> DHA 264 mg 500-550 mg

> EPA 270 mg 460-500 mg

> Vitamin E 23 IU 1 IU

> Cost (approx) $14.95 for 8 oz $19.90 for 16 oz

>

> Any idea why the differences? What would be the appropriate dose for a 70

> year old?

>

> Peace,

> Kris , gardening in northwest Ohio

>

>

[Guest guest]

--- Why the difference? Several thoughts. What lab tested them? How

were samples handled? Sampled? Shipped? A lab doesn't get the same

numbers two days in a row. Did two different labs check them?

Most likely! Certified labs?........... Only the vitamin A and E

content are significantly different.

Question the companies. Request actual testing procedures used.

Check out their manufacturing methods. Ask them about their raw

materials used. Hope this helps. Welcome to food science. Dennis

In @y..., " Kris " <Kris.@a...>

wrote:

> I'm puzzled about the quantities of nutrients in cod liver oil. I

have been

> taking the product from Premier Research Labs, which was recommended

> somewhere on this list or on the WAAP website - can't find the

reference

> now. But at the Wise Tradition conference Dr Ron Schmidt and Krispin

> Sullivan recommended Carlson cod liver oil, so I got some of that.

Although

> both are good Norwegian CLO they are quite different in nutrient

content.

> I've been taking a tsp of the Premier, but not sure how much Carlson

I'll

> take.

>

> Premier Carlson

> Serving size 1/2 tsp 1 tsp

> Vitamin A 5,750 IU 2000 to 2500 IU

> Vitamin D 575 IU 400 to 500 IU

> DHA 264 mg 500-550 mg

> EPA 270 mg 460-500 mg

> Vitamin E 23 IU 1 IU

> Cost (approx) $14.95 for 8 oz $19.90 for 16 oz

>

> Any idea why the differences? What would be the appropriate dose for

a 70

> year old?

>

> Peace,

> Kris , gardening in northwest Ohio

[Guest guest]

---Upon reading message # 10645 it's pretty obvious the differences in

Vitamin A numbers are not significantly different, so Vit E is the

only difference in the two oils using the numbers Kris previously

mentioned. Dennis

In @y..., " dkemnitz2000 " <dkemnitz2000@y...>

wrote:

> --- Why the difference? Several thoughts. What lab tested them? How

> were samples handled? Sampled? Shipped? A lab doesn't get the same

> numbers two days in a row. Did two different labs check them?

> Most likely! Certified labs?........... Only the vitamin A and E

> content are significantly different.

> Question the companies. Request actual testing procedures used.

> Check out their manufacturing methods. Ask them about their raw

> materials used. Hope this helps. Welcome to food science. Dennis

>

>

>

>

> In @y..., " Kris " <Kris.@a...>

> wrote:

> > I'm puzzled about the quantities of nutrients in cod liver oil. I

> have been

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Clipped by Dennis>>>>>>>.

[Guest guest]

asked me to forward this. Thanks for the info, Chris. I think that

probably clears things up.

Peace,

Kris , gardening in northwest Ohio

----- Original Message -----

From: " Cogswell " <radiantlife@...>

" Kris " <Kris.@...>

Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 2:52 PM

Subject: RE: Cod liver oil

> Hi Kris,

>

> Krispin interviewed us about the Premier Research cod oil we carry for her

> article, and it was the information I shared with her about the importance

> of the bottom of the barrel cod oil that she used in her article. I can't

> quite figure out why she and Dr. Ron recommend the Carlson oil when it has

> only a fifth of the nutrient density of ours. Since the nutrient density

> is a " tag " which belies its position in the barrel, it stands to reason

> that Carlson's oil is not from the bottom of the barrel. Turns out that

> toxins tend to rise toward the top of the barrel, which is one more reason

> to go for the bottom " crude " oil. Premier actually has to send its oil to

> a lab in Germany to get it tested for mercury etc. because it is the only

> lab that is able to test for metals etc. in such tiny amounts! The final

> test of course is the taste, and the oil we carry is so mild that it

> doesn't need to be flavored. I take it straight and we have many

customers

> whose children like it - the best test of all!

>

> Hope this helps,

>

> Cogswell

> Radiant Life

> 888 593 8333

> www.4radiantlife.com

>

> PS - Could you post this to the group? won't let me sign in today

> for some reason - have been trying for 2hrs! Thanks....

>

>

>

>

> > [Original Message]

> > From: Kris <Kris.@...>

> > < >

> > Date: 6/7/2002 3:13:17 AM

> > Subject: Cod liver oil

> >

> > I'm puzzled about the quantities of nutrients in cod liver oil. I have

> been

> > taking the product from Premier Research Labs, which was recommended

> > somewhere on this list or on the WAAP website - can't find the reference

> > now. But at the Wise Tradition conference Dr Ron Schmidt and Krispin

> > Sullivan recommended Carlson cod liver oil, so I got some of that.

> Although

> > both are good Norwegian CLO they are quite different in nutrient

content.

> > I've been taking a tsp of the Premier, but not sure how much Carlson

I'll

> > take.

> >

> > Premier Carlson

> > Serving size 1/2 tsp 1 tsp

> > Vitamin A 5,750 IU 2000 to 2500 IU

> > Vitamin D 575 IU 400 to 500 IU

> > DHA 264 mg 500-550 mg

> > EPA 270 mg 460-500 mg

> > Vitamin E 23 IU 1 IU

> > Cost (approx) $14.95 for 8 oz $19.90 for 16 oz

> >

> > Any idea why the differences? What would be the appropriate dose for a

70

> > year old?

> >

> > Peace,

> > Kris , gardening in northwest Ohio

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

From: " dkemnitz2000 " <dkemnitz2000@...>

< >

Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 5:51 PM

Subject: Re: Cod liver oil

> ---Upon reading message # 10645 it's pretty obvious the differences in

> Vitamin A numbers are not significantly different, so Vit E is the

> only difference in the two oils using the numbers Kris previously

> mentioned. Dennis

Take a look at the numbers again. Premier has about twice the vitamin A and

the same amount of vitamin D for a serving half the size, which means that

it's twice as dense in vitamin D and four times as dense in vitamin A.

[Guest guest]

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " dkemnitz2000 " <dkemnitz2000@y...>

> < @y...>

> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 5:51 PM

> Subject: Re: Cod liver oil

>

>

> > ---Upon reading message # 10645 it's pretty obvious the

differences in

> > Vitamin A numbers are not significantly different, so Vit E is the

> > only difference in the two oils using the numbers Kris previously

> > mentioned. Dennis

>

> Take a look at the numbers again. Premier has about twice the

vitamin A and

> the same amount of vitamin D for a serving half the size, which

means that

> it's twice as dense in vitamin D and four times as dense in vitamin

A.

Thanks, , I'm glad you corrected that. Dennis

[Guest guest]

Or was it Zinc?

> From: <chris@...>

> Reply-

> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 05:43:31 -0700

> < >

> Subject: Cod Liver Oil

>

> I thought I read at some point that when taking cod liver oil you need to

> make sure you get plenty of Vitamin E. Is this true? If so why?

>

> Thanks ,

> Chris

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I believe Krispin Sullivan, who os now writing, " Naked at Noon, a

book about the value of vitamin D)states it is necessary to get more

magnesium, when consumminng high doses of CLO. I don't see why anyone

would need more vitamin E, because vitamin D is an antioxident, and

there would be a lot of that in the CLO. If a person was taking a lot

of fish oil which contains vitamin A, but not vitamin D, then they

would need the vitamin E. Please correct me if I am wrong about this.

Sheila

> Or was it Zinc?

>

> > From: <chris@v...>

> > Reply- @y...

> > Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 05:43:31 -0700

> > < @y...>

> > Subject: Cod Liver Oil

> >

> > I thought I read at some point that when taking cod liver oil you

need to

> > make sure you get plenty of Vitamin E. Is this true? If so why?

> >

> > Thanks ,

> > Chris

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

To answer this question correctly, one needs to realize that there are

different types of oxidants, and not every antioxidants can neutralize every

one of them. You could say that different types of antioxidants have their

own specialization. Unsaturated fatty acids, and especially polyunsaturated

fatty acids, are very unstable and become free radicals rather easily, so

they need protection. Vitamin E is said to be protect to protect them, and so

is alpha lipoic acids (ALA), if I am not mistaken. Vitamin C would not do it.

I am not sure about Vitamin A. So, it on the safe side, when you increase

your consumption of polyunsaturated fatty acids, which cod liver oil (and any

fish oil, in general) is rich in, you'd better consume extra Vitamin E.

Saturated fatty acids are said to be able to stabilize unsaturated acids too.

So, perhaps, taking CLO will butter or butter oil, like Weston Price did, may

be a good idea. In fact, according to WAPF material, saturated fatty acids

help EFA utilization.

Roman

h2ocolor1937 wrote:

> Hi,

> I believe Krispin Sullivan, who os now writing, " Naked at Noon, a

> book about the value of vitamin D)states it is necessary to get more

> magnesium, when consumminng high doses of CLO. I don't see why anyone

> would need more vitamin E, because vitamin D is an antioxident, and

> there would be a lot of that in the CLO. If a person was taking a lot

> of fish oil which contains vitamin A, but not vitamin D, then they

> would need the vitamin E. Please correct me if I am wrong about this.

> Sheila

>

>

> > Or was it Zinc?

> >

> > > From: <chris@v...>

> > > Reply- @y...

> > > Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 05:43:31 -0700

> > > < @y...>

> > > Subject: Cod Liver Oil

> > >

> > > I thought I read at some point that when taking cod liver oil you

> need to

> > > make sure you get plenty of Vitamin E. Is this true? If so why?

> > >

> > > Thanks ,

> > > Chris

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/13/02 3:09:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

@... writes:

> The CLO from Radiant life is more nutrient dense I believe and very mild I

> like it, but my kids won't take it so I stick with " lemon oil "

Someone earlier mentioned the nutrient-density of the RL cod liver oil, and

said it was 400 IU of vitamin D, but my Dale CLO has 460 IU of

vitamin D.

chris

____

" What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a

heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of

them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense

compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to

bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature.

Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the

truth, and for those who do them wrong. "

--Saint Isaac the Syrian

[Guest guest]

I have Dale 's and Premier Research Labs (from Radiant Life) and for

fun I dribbled some of each onto two bowls of dry cat food. My cats went right

for the Premier Research Labs bowl. Not very scientific, but since my cats are

super-duper smart, I took the hint and take only the Premier!

----- Original Message -----

From: Chris

Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 2:23 PM

Subject: Cod Liver Oil

Is one of these 2 better than the other?

Carlson Cod Liver Oil

http://store./iherb/norcodliver.html

Dale Norwegian Cod Liver Oil

http://store./iherb/codlivoilpla.html

Thanks,

Chris

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/13/02 6:24:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

bberg@... writes:

> How much oil is that?

One teaspoonful.

4600 IU Vit A

460 IU Vit D

460 mg EPA

420 mg DHA

Per gram,

1000 IU Vit A

100 IU Vit D

chris

____

" What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a

heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of

them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense

compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to

bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature.

Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the

truth, and for those who do them wrong. "

--Saint Isaac the Syrian

[Guest guest]

My kids readily take Carlson's lemon flavored CLO they wouldn't touch

's (I thought it was yuchhy too)

The CLO from Radiant life is more nutrient dense I believe and very mild I

like it, but my kids won't take it so I stick with " lemon oil "

--

-----Original Message-----

From: [mailto:chris@...]

Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 11:24 AM

Subject: Cod Liver Oil

Is one of these 2 better than the other?

Carlson Cod Liver Oil

http://store./iherb/norcodliver.html

Dale Norwegian Cod Liver Oil

http://store./iherb/codlivoilpla.html

Thanks,

Chris

[Guest guest]

I too started my kids on Carlson lemon-flavored CLO which went over well...then

I tried the more nutrient dense CLO by Premier..tasted fine to me but the kids

started balking. So I found some lemon oil at Kitchen Kaboodle... I add 2-3

drops on top of ea. dose....no complaints!! :-)

Lynn

----- Original Message -----

From: Pellicer

Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 1:07 PM

Subject: RE: Cod Liver Oil

My kids readily take Carlson's lemon flavored CLO they wouldn't touch

's (I thought it was yuchhy too)

The CLO from Radiant life is more nutrient dense I believe and very mild I

like it, but my kids won't take it so I stick with " lemon oil "

[Guest guest]

And the surprising thing to me is that this area has a construction boom bigger

than anything I've ever seen. I don't know who has all the money to buy all

these places.

----- Original Message -----

From: Lynn

Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 4:16 PM

Subject: Re: Cod Liver Oil

I too started my kids on Carlson lemon-flavored CLO which went over

well...then I tried the more nutrient dense CLO by Premier..tasted fine to me

but the kids started balking. So I found some lemon oil at Kitchen Kaboodle...

I add 2-3 drops on top of ea. dose....no complaints!! :-)

Lynn

----- Original Message -----

From: Pellicer

Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 1:07 PM

Subject: RE: Cod Liver Oil

My kids readily take Carlson's lemon flavored CLO they wouldn't touch

's (I thought it was yuchhy too)

The CLO from Radiant life is more nutrient dense I believe and very mild I

like it, but my kids won't take it so I stick with " lemon oil "

[Guest guest]

I don't know how this part of an email I was sending ended up on this chat

group. Sorry about that.

Ed

----- Original Message -----

From: Darmohray

Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 4:32 PM

Subject: Re: Cod Liver Oil

And the surprising thing to me is that this area has a construction boom

bigger than anything I've ever seen. I don't know who has all the money to buy

all these places.

----- Original Message -----

From: Lynn

Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 4:16 PM

Subject: Re: Cod Liver Oil

I too started my kids on Carlson lemon-flavored CLO which went over

well...then I tried the more nutrient dense CLO by Premier..tasted fine to me

but the kids started balking. So I found some lemon oil at Kitchen Kaboodle...

I add 2-3 drops on top of ea. dose....no complaints!! :-)

Lynn

----- Original Message -----

From: Pellicer

Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 1:07 PM

Subject: RE: Cod Liver Oil

My kids readily take Carlson's lemon flavored CLO they wouldn't touch

's (I thought it was yuchhy too)

The CLO from Radiant life is more nutrient dense I believe and very mild I

like it, but my kids won't take it so I stick with " lemon oil "

[Guest guest]

Quoting ChrisMasterjohn@...:

> In a message dated 8/13/02 3:09:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> @... writes:

>

> > The CLO from Radiant life is more nutrient dense I believe and very

> mild I

> > like it, but my kids won't take it so I stick with " lemon oil "

>

> Someone earlier mentioned the nutrient-density of the RL cod liver oil,

> and

> said it was 400 IU of vitamin D, but my Dale CLO has 460 IU of

>

> vitamin D.

How much oil is that?

--

Berg

bberg@...

[Guest guest]

Sheila,

Those were the numbers for Dale 's. I was saying that DA is

apparently not less vitamin-rich than RL, if RL has 400 IU of vitamin D,

which is what someone had said earlier. But, these numbers are _way_ richer

than the DA I have, considering they are significantly higher for half the

dose.

Chris

In a message dated 8/13/02 9:57:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

h2ocolor@... writes:

> -Hi,

> My catalogue from RL states 1/2 teaspoon of their CLO has:

> vit A 5,750

> Vit D 575

> EPA 600 mg

> DHA 575 mg

> These numbers don't jive with yours. Maybe my catalogue is older. Is

> that the problem? Are you talking about Carlson's or maybe

> 's CLO? I know Carlson's and 's are both less

> vitamin rich, because I researced this a while back.

> Be well,

> Sheila

> -- In @y..., ChrisMasterjohn@a... wrote:

> > In a message dated 8/13/02 6:24:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> > bberg@c... writes:

> >

> > > How much oil is that?

> >

> > One teaspoonful.

> >

> > 4600 IU Vit A

> > 460 IU Vit D

> > 460 mg EPA

> > 420 mg DHA

> >

> > Per gram,

> > 1000 IU Vit A

> > 100 IU Vit D

> >

> > chris

> >

____

" What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a

heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of

them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense

compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to

bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature.

Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the

truth, and for those who do them wrong. "

--Saint Isaac the Syrian

[Guest guest]

-Hi,

My catalogue from RL states 1/2 teaspoon of their CLO has:

vit A 5,750

Vit D 575

EPA 600 mg

DHA 575 mg

These numbers don't jive with yours. Maybe my catalogue is older. Is

that the problem? Are you talking about Carlson's or maybe

's CLO? I know Carlson's and 's are both less

vitamin rich, because I researced this a while back.

Be well,

Sheila

-- In @y..., ChrisMasterjohn@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 8/13/02 6:24:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> bberg@c... writes:

>

> > How much oil is that?

>

> One teaspoonful.

>

> 4600 IU Vit A

> 460 IU Vit D

> 460 mg EPA

> 420 mg DHA

>

> Per gram,

> 1000 IU Vit A

> 100 IU Vit D

>

> chris

>

> ____

>

> " What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion?

It is a

> heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings,

birds, and

> animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the

sight of

> them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and

intense

> compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them

unable to

> bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any

creature.

> Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for

enemies of the

> truth, and for those who do them wrong. "

>

> --Saint Isaac the Syrian

[Guest guest]

Please, how do you get off this list. I have been doing it the way I was

told by going to -unsubscribeonelist but will not work.

HELP

Terry

[Guest guest]

> My kids readily take Carlson's lemon flavored CLO they wouldn't touch

> 's (I thought it was yuchhy too)

> The CLO from Radiant life is more nutrient dense I believe and very mild I

> like it, but my kids won't take it so I stick with " lemon oil "

> --

I'm not crazy about the lemon flavor - kind of bitter lemon rind flavor to

me, so next time I'm ordering from RAdiant Life.

Kris

> -----Original Message-----

> From: [mailto:chris@...]

> Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 11:24 AM

>

> Subject: Cod Liver Oil

>

>

> Is one of these 2 better than the other?

>

> Carlson Cod Liver Oil

> http://store./iherb/norcodliver.html

>

> Dale Norwegian Cod Liver Oil

> http://store./iherb/codlivoilpla.html

>

> Thanks,

>

> Chris