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Well I'll be Glad to see those pics :o) I Never knew that a goat can learn

things to do like a Dog :o) I will say Prayers for your Friend... Hope you

get to see her...

You had better Slow down young lady, or You will be in the hospital... Then

who will take care of your critters ??? I know smartie, Nana !!! but you know

what I mean :o)

R E S T !!!

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I Hear that !!! You better ... I'm Peachy kean...

((( Many Hugs )))

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hey Helen, you'd be amazed at how smart goats are!!! Shane learns things 10x

faster then my dog ever has!! Nana wants to take pics of him doing some of

his tricks tomorrow, so I'll email you some if she takes them k :o) I'm

doing okay I guess VERY tired all the time, lots to do with 12 pets around

never really get to stop. It is easier with Noah and Ruby at my friends

:o( But I really miss them a lot can't wait to get them back here where they

belong!! I haven't really had much time to stop and rest :o( and my friend

Casey is going in for a major surgery tomorrow so I've been worried about

that. Not sure when I will make it down to the hospital she is at it's over

2 hours away and no way Nana can drive that. I'll probably ride down with

her grandma on Tuesday or Wednesday it all depends on how well this surgery

goes.:o(

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lol okay Helen i'll rest up tomorrow k :o) How are you doing??!?

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Helen, How are you guys doing?? How is Ross and the In laws?? I read where you guys are having a lot of wind and stuff this weeknd. Any snow?? It has gotten very windy here today, cool, too.

We all are doing fine, Amber is feeling much better, nothing like the right meds and Dr. on your side.

I wish I could share our good fortune with your girls. Their "dad" needs to be horse whipped for sure.

Amber loves her job, she is a sacker at HEB, which is a big grocery chain here in Texas. She works four hours at a time, when she works, she is working the weekend, plus quite a bit next week, since they are on Spring Break.

We will meet my best friend in Tues or Wed for lunch.

April is doing quite well, just cannot believe the change in her from last year.

I worked the last two nights and needless to say I will sleep like a baby tonite.LOL.

You take care, Friends, Marsha

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Unbelievable, isnt it. The night I had to call the cops in Santa Fe

they didnt do anything either. Oh, I take that back, they filed a

complaint from the devils spawn, she wanted my father arrested for

assault. He can barely get up from his chair with the help of a cane,

and takes little shuffle steps, while he hangs onto his desk. And he

never got near them, just stood up & told them to get out of his

house. But she knew the law, and it says If you have a reasonable

fear that you are in immediate danger of being attacked.........So

then you cant access the report either, because a suspect has been

named...... & on & on it goes. No, we're not near done yet. Glad

yours is almost over. Sounds like he hung himself--- but then I'm

being reasonable again.......

You may not hear from me for awhile,but I'll be rooting for you. I

have to go back there. Can you hear me moaning? Its my dad, his

kidneys are failing. His potassium is so high he was supposed to go

straight to the hospital & check in- but there were no beds. " if he

is still alive " in the morning he will try again. We're talking about

St Victims, there might be several " openings " . I talked him into

trying one dialysis treatment, and now I am wondering if I did the

right thing. He had refused, said he didnt want to live that way,

that it was time. He had a very valid point, when he was trying to

give up on me, he said isnt that the way anyone would want to go if

they had the choice (high K+, heart just stops), I mean isnt that why

Dr Kevorkian chose it? But noooooooo, I'm going to let St Victims

torture him to death. This is why you do not leave these decisions to

family! If we love you we want you to be there for us, so we will

save you any way we can- whether you like living or not. I know my

dad, if he knew what I know he would never do it- so I didnt tell

him. I guess I just answered myself. Will go & hold his hand & keep

my mouth shut.

Thanks for being there. I wish you luck. Please wish me strength.

Love,

> Our lawyer, our daughters lawyer and the girls lawyer are all

working on

> it... The court docket is full and we can't get in now until our

original

> court date of the 16th of Sept. He is totally out of control, his

own lawyer

> can not control him... He thinks he is running the show and no one

else...

> When we showed up last Tues. for our reg. visitation, he called us

an hour

> and 15 min's. after we had sat there, and told us to get off his

property or

> he was calling the sheriff! He was not going to let us see the

girls

> anymore, he has made up his mind that our visitation is over with!

Ross told

> him to do what ever he had to do... We were thankful he did... The

police

> were there in ten min's. with him right behind him... The policeman

was very

> kind, looked at our court orders and told their father that he was

Very much

> in the wrong and Explained it to him, then gave him another chance

and asked

> are you going to let them have their grand children and he said

No! So the

> policeman wrote him up and told us to go to the office in the

morning and get

> a copy to give our lawyer and then we could get a new court

order... Why

> wasn't the one we had good enough??? Its been like that each

visitaion now

> including today :o( He will not let our court appointed phone calls

go

> through either :o( We have followed Every rule, every order in

this whole

> year, and this is the Third time he is being held in contempt of

court... The

> first two they let wave for some reason, they never followed

through with

> them... If they drop it this time I will be losing it, because

enough is

> enough... Sorry, I'm just worn out totally :o( The girls can not

take

> anymore either :o(

> I don't know either why he gets away with what he does... How is

it that

> the liers and the bad guys seem to have more rights than we do???

> I'm so sorry that your little one is still being shuffled back

and forth

> also... Are all your court dates done with???

> 13 more days :o( Thanks for talking...

> Love and Hugs

> Helen

>

> > Oh Helen, I am so sorry. How can he get away with it????????? Why

dont you

> > just call social services & turn him in, for this constant

emotional abuse.

> > Its worse than being beaten. Grandparents rights are legally

protected now-

> > even if you hadnt raised them! Supposedly, thats why we cant get

rid of the

> > devil. No matter who ends up with her they will always have

to " promote a

> > loving relationship " with this # & @!*%! And denying him

visitation is

> > grounds for not granting custody.

> >

> > At least it will finally be over soon. I know, not soon

enough........!

> > Will be one time you will be more than happy to go to court!

Just a few

> > more weeks. Hang in there. My thoughts & prayers will be with

you.

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You'll be in my thoughts!!! Good Luck!!!!

Re: Helen

Unbelievable, isnt it. The night I had to call the cops in Santa Fe

they didnt do anything either. Oh, I take that back, they filed a

complaint from the devils spawn, she wanted my father arrested for

assault. He can barely get up from his chair with the help of a cane,

and takes little shuffle steps, while he hangs onto his desk. And he

never got near them, just stood up & told them to get out of his

house. But she knew the law, and it says If you have a reasonable

fear that you are in immediate danger of being attacked.........So

then you cant access the report either, because a suspect has been

named...... & on & on it goes. No, we're not near done yet. Glad

yours is almost over. Sounds like he hung himself--- but then I'm

being reasonable again.......

You may not hear from me for awhile,but I'll be rooting for you. I

have to go back there. Can you hear me moaning? Its my dad, his

kidneys are failing. His potassium is so high he was supposed to go

straight to the hospital & check in- but there were no beds. " if he

is still alive " in the morning he will try again. We're talking about

St Victims, there might be several " openings " . I talked him into

trying one dialysis treatment, and now I am wondering if I did the

right thing. He had refused, said he didnt want to live that way,

that it was time. He had a very valid point, when he was trying to

give up on me, he said isnt that the way anyone would want to go if

they had the choice (high K+, heart just stops), I mean isnt that why

Dr Kevorkian chose it? But noooooooo, I'm going to let St Victims

torture him to death. This is why you do not leave these decisions to

family! If we love you we want you to be there for us, so we will

save you any way we can- whether you like living or not. I know my

dad, if he knew what I know he would never do it- so I didnt tell

him. I guess I just answered myself. Will go & hold his hand & keep

my mouth shut.

Thanks for being there. I wish you luck. Please wish me strength.

Love,

> Our lawyer, our daughters lawyer and the girls lawyer are all

working on

> it... The court docket is full and we can't get in now until our

original

> court date of the 16th of Sept. He is totally out of control, his

own lawyer

> can not control him... He thinks he is running the show and no one

else...

> When we showed up last Tues. for our reg. visitation, he called us

an hour

> and 15 min's. after we had sat there, and told us to get off his

property or

> he was calling the sheriff! He was not going to let us see the

girls

> anymore, he has made up his mind that our visitation is over with!

Ross told

> him to do what ever he had to do... We were thankful he did... The

police

> were there in ten min's. with him right behind him... The policeman

was very

> kind, looked at our court orders and told their father that he was

Very much

> in the wrong and Explained it to him, then gave him another chance

and asked

> are you going to let them have their grand children and he said

No! So the

> policeman wrote him up and told us to go to the office in the

morning and get

> a copy to give our lawyer and then we could get a new court

order... Why

> wasn't the one we had good enough??? Its been like that each

visitaion now

> including today :o( He will not let our court appointed phone calls

go

> through either :o( We have followed Every rule, every order in

this whole

> year, and this is the Third time he is being held in contempt of

court... The

> first two they let wave for some reason, they never followed

through with

> them... If they drop it this time I will be losing it, because

enough is

> enough... Sorry, I'm just worn out totally :o( The girls can not

take

> anymore either :o(

> I don't know either why he gets away with what he does... How is

it that

> the liers and the bad guys seem to have more rights than we do???

> I'm so sorry that your little one is still being shuffled back

and forth

> also... Are all your court dates done with???

> 13 more days :o( Thanks for talking...

> Love and Hugs

> Helen

>

> > Oh Helen, I am so sorry. How can he get away with it????????? Why

dont you

> > just call social services & turn him in, for this constant

emotional abuse.

> > Its worse than being beaten. Grandparents rights are legally

protected now-

> > even if you hadnt raised them! Supposedly, thats why we cant get

rid of the

> > devil. No matter who ends up with her they will always have

to " promote a

> > loving relationship " with this # & @!*%! And denying him

visitation is

> > grounds for not granting custody.

> >

> > At least it will finally be over soon. I know, not soon

enough........!

> > Will be one time you will be more than happy to go to court!

Just a few

> > more weeks. Hang in there. My thoughts & prayers will be with

you.

>

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Oh , I'm so sorry about your Father :o( My Prayers are with you and

him for the strength that you will need to get through this next obstacle you

are facing... It just never ends does it??? You be extra careful traveling

and do try and take care of yourself also...

As the police told us today, (Yes they called them again) Keep on fighting

for what you know is right!!! The girls need to get out of there... And your

baby does too!!!!

Today the police told us to Call them ourselves when we arrive for our

visits, because as nasty as they are, the police are afraid that they will

accuse us of something that we didn't do, just like you explained about your

father... We had never thought about that... Of course they wouldn't give us

the girls again :o( She told the police that our court orders were

terminated and there was New Orders!!! So they asked to see them... She told

the police that they were in the Mail :o) I actually thought that was cute...

The police didn't though...

So Yoou keep on fighting also!!!!!!!!!!!

If we don't fight for the little ones, Who will?????

Love and Hugs

Helen

> Unbelievable, isnt it. The night I had to call the cops in Santa Fe

> they didnt do anything either. Oh, I take that back, they filed a

> complaint from the devils spawn, she wanted my father arrested for

> assault. He can barely get up from his chair with the help of a cane,

> and takes little shuffle steps, while he hangs onto his desk. And he

> never got near them, just stood up & told them to get out of his

> house. But she knew the law, and it says If you have a reasonable

> fear that you are in immediate danger of being attacked.........So

> then you cant access the report either, because a suspect has been

> named...... & on & on it goes. No, we're not near done yet. Glad

> yours is almost over. Sounds like he hung himself--- but then I'm

> being reasonable again.......

> You may not hear from me for awhile,but I'll be rooting for you. I

> have to go back there. Can you hear me moaning? Its my dad, his

> kidneys are failing. His potassium is so high he was supposed to go

> straight to the hospital & check in- but there were no beds. " if he

> is still alive " in the morning he will try again. We're talking about

> St Victims, there might be several " openings " . I talked him into

> trying one dialysis treatment, and now I am wondering if I did the

> right thing. He had refused, said he didnt want to live that way,

> that it was time. He had a very valid point, when he was trying to

> give up on me, he said isnt that the way anyone would want to go if

> they had the choice (high K+, heart just stops), I mean isnt that why

> Dr Kevorkian chose it? But noooooooo, I'm going to let St Victims

> torture him to death. This is why you do not leave these decisions to

> family! If we love you we want you to be there for us, so we will

> save you any way we can- whether you like living or not. I know my

> dad, if he knew what I know he would never do it- so I didnt tell

> him. I guess I just answered myself. Will go & hold his hand & keep

> my mouth shut.

> Thanks for being there. I wish you luck. Please wish me strength.

> Love,

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Our lawyer, our daughters lawyer and the girls lawyer are all working on

it... The court docket is full and we can't get in now until our

original

court date of the 16th of Sept. He is totally out of control, his own

lawyer

can not control him... He thinks he is running the show and no one

else...

When we showed up last Tues. for our reg. visitation, he called us an

hour

and 15 min's. after we had sat there, and told us to get off his

property or

he was calling the sheriff! He was not going to let us see the girls

anymore, he has made up his mind that our visitation is over with! Ross

told

him to do what ever he had to do... We were thankful he did... The

police

were there in ten min's. with him right behind him... The policeman was

very

kind, looked at our court orders and told their father that he was Very

much

in the wrong and Explained it to him, then gave him another chance and

asked

are you going to let them have their grand children and he said No! So

the

policeman wrote him up and told us to go to the office in the morning

and get

a copy to give our lawyer and then we could get a new court order... Why

wasn't the one we had good enough??? Its been like that each visitaion

now

including today :o( He will not let our court appointed phone calls go

through either :o( We have followed Every rule, every order in this

whole

year, and this is the Third time he is being held in contempt of

court... The

first two they let wave for some reason, they never followed through

with

them... If they drop it this time I will be losing it, because enough is

enough... Sorry, I'm just worn out totally :o( The girls can not take

anymore either :o(

I don't know either why he gets away with what he does... How is it that

the liers and the bad guys seem to have more rights than we do???

I'm so sorry that your little one is still being shuffled back and forth

also... Are all your court dates done with???

13 more days :o( Thanks for talking...

Love and Hugs

Helen

> Oh Helen, I am so sorry. How can he get away with it????????? Why dont

> you

> just call social services & turn him in, for this constant emotional

abuse.

> Its worse than being beaten. Grandparents rights are legally protected

now-

> even if you hadnt raised them! Supposedly, thats why we cant get rid

of the

> devil. No matter who ends up with her they will always have to

" promote a

> loving relationship " with this # & @!*%! And denying him visitation is

> grounds for not granting custody.

>

> At least it will finally be over soon. I know, not soon

> enough........!

> Will be one time you will be more than happy to go to court! Just a

few

> more weeks. Hang in there. My thoughts & prayers will be with you.

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Hi ,

He thinks he can run everything right now... He called the police on us twice, she did once and told them on the phone that she felt her life was threatened with us in the driveway!!! Get real !!! The police have been very Kind each time and told us to make sure that the Judge hears about everytime he hasn't let us see the girls as it all goes against him... The police also told us to Call them when we get close from now on, so they could be there when we arrive , because of what she tried to accuse us of the last time... So we called them tuesday just before we got there and they were there... No one would answer the door... Her dog wasn't barking, so that told us she was inside holding him... I wondered what her excuse would be this week, as for the last two weeks, they kept telling the police that the New court order is in the mail!!! There is NO new court order, not until the 16th... And PLEASE everyone, Pray that the girls will get out of there once and for all!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tonight was very hard :o( He allowed to get them, so she brought them home... Oh it was Heaven to get to see them finally !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Lovings and the huggins went on, and on... Then the tears... They don't understand why we can't see them anymore... When it was time to leave, the baby just kept Screaming, and screaming :o( Sae and Bre were crying, its the hardest thing I have ever done is to have to make them go back to that prison, that is suppose to be their home now... They have been mean to the girls all this time, but more cruel to casey (5) the youngest :o( Now she has to get up at 5 am when her father gets up for work and he has to make sure that she gets herself ready for school before he leaves, Then she has to go and Sit on the edge of her bed, NOT lay down, Sit until the other two are awakened around 7 and they are ready for school... Then if she's been good, she can then eat breakfast with them, otherwise she has to sit on the edge of her bed till its time to be taken to day care at 8am... Then she gets to look forward to going back to that place, to only be put Back in her room, where they have taken ALL of her toys away last JULY 12th !!!!!!!!!!! She did have two barbie dolls from her birthday that she was allowed to keep, but now they are gone too :o( Her other birthday presents from aug 14th sit in her room unopened, as she is told she is too mean and horrible and such a BAD little girl to get to open them :o(

Sae and Bre keep their mouths shut, so they get by... But they spend all their time in the basement where their bedroom and toy room are, because She doesn't like any noise or messes around :o( Now you see why they scream and carry on and Beg us not to send them back to that place... :o(

The tears wouldn't stop tonight :o( I had to restrain her in the car, just to get the seat belt on her, Sae and Bre were crying, it was just so horrible :o( Sorrry, Monday can't come soon enough...

Love

Mom

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Had a virus....bad one. Virus scan missed it...sorry I've been MIA.

Still up to the old tricks, huh? He will get his in the end. What I

would give to be a fly on the wall on his judgment day.....

How have you been? I sure did miss you. I'm so sorry that I haven't

been here for you. How are you and Pop? Please fill me in...I'm

reading the emails, but slowly.

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Won't know anything more until Monday the 16th... The only thing we know is that he is in contempt of court!

Thanks for asking...

How are you this day??? Feeling a little better???

((( Caring Hugs )))

Helen

Hi Helen, how are you doing? Well I hope!! I was wondering how things

were going with the court and your girls. I was thinking of them and

was wondering if you made any headway.

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I am just in tears from reading that. I'm praying harder than I ever have. Poor babies. I don't know what to say anymore, Mom. Usually I just tell you that it will all be over soon....but I'm not so sure I believe that anymore. It scares me that our justice system is so screwed up that it would allow children to be tortured in such a way. These poor babies. I don't know what to say anymore to you that could help you cope, I'll keep trying though. I'm ready now to start writing letters to politicians about the juvenile justice system. My aunt is having a very similar problem, and my oldest cousin (13) just tried to commit suicide. I'm sorry Mom that I don't have encouraging words, all I have to hang on to that Jeramie will get his on judgment day, but right now that doesn't quite seem like enough. I'll pray harder and louder now. Hang in there Mom, I'll hold your hand through it.

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Hi Helen Im still praying for your girls! I hope it all works out Monday! Are these girls old enough to testify on there behalf as to how these people are treating them? Hugs Re: Helen Hi , He thinks he can run everything right now... He called the police on us twice, she did once and told them on the phone that she felt her life was threatened with us in the driveway!!! Get real !!! The police have been very Kind each time and told us to make sure that the Judge hears about everytime he hasn't let us see the girls as it all goes against him... The police also told us to Call them when we get close from now on, so they could be there when we arrive , because of what she tried to accuse us of the last time... So we called them tuesday just before we got there and they were there... No one would answer the door... Her dog wasn't barking, so that told us she was inside holding him... I wondered what her excuse would be this week, as for the last two weeks, they kept telling the police that the New court order is in the mail!!! There is NO new court order, not until the 16th... And PLEASE everyone, Pray that the girls will get out of there once and for all!!!!!!!!!!!! Tonight was very hard :o( He allowed to get them, so she brought them home... Oh it was Heaven to get to see them finally !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Lovings and the huggins went on, and on... Then the tears... They don't understand why we can't see them anymore... When it was time to leave, the baby just kept Screaming, and screaming :o( Sae and Bre were crying, its the hardest thing I have ever done is to have to make them go back to that prison, that is suppose to be their home now... They have been mean to the girls all this time, but more cruel to casey (5) the youngest :o( Now she has to get up at 5 am when her father gets up for work and he has to make sure that she gets herself ready for school before he leaves, Then she has to go and Sit on the edge of her bed, NOT lay down, Sit until the other two are awakened around 7 and they are ready for school... Then if she's been good, she can then eat breakfast with them, otherwise she has to sit on the edge of her bed till its time to be taken to day care at 8am... Then she gets to look forward to going back to that place, to only be put Back in her room, where they have taken ALL of her toys away last JULY 12th !!!!!!!!!!! She did have two barbie dolls from her birthday that she was allowed to keep, but now they are gone too :o( Her other birthday presents from aug 14th sit in her room unopened, as she is told she is too mean and horrible and such a BAD little girl to get to open them :o( Sae and Bre keep their mouths shut, so they get by... But they spend all their time in the basement where their bedroom and toy room are, because She doesn't like any noise or messes around :o( Now you see why they scream and carry on and Beg us not to send them back to that place... :o( The tears wouldn't stop tonight :o( I had to restrain her in the car, just to get the seat belt on her, Sae and Bre were crying, it was just so horrible :o( Sorrry, Monday can't come soon enough... Love Mom Mom, Had a virus....bad one. Virus scan missed it...sorry I've been MIA.Still up to the old tricks, huh? He will get his in the end. What Iwould give to be a fly on the wall on his judgment day..... How have you been? I sure did miss you. I'm so sorry that I haven'tbeen here for you. How are you and Pop? Please fill me in...I'mreading the emails, but slowly. <center> Signature Creations by PANDORASBOX8 </center> If there is a Download with this email, DO NOT OPEN IT !Please notify Me !!!Thank-YouHelenangelbear1129@... ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ The Being Sick CommunityMessage Archives and Digest Attachment Pictures:-/messagesChat:- Scheduled Daily Chats at /chatBookmarks:-Add a website URL you have found useful./linksPersonal Complaints or problems:-Please contact a moderator email: -owner Subscription Details:-1) Individual email - means that every email sent to the list you receive.2) Daily Digest - sends you 25 messages in one single email for you to browse. This is an excellent option if you receive alot of email.3) Web only/No mail - means that you can pop into groups at your convenience and receive no email.To modify your subscription settings please visit:- /joinTo subscribe or unsubscribe please email:--subscribe -unsubscribe ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~When nothing is sure, everything is possible.--- Margaret Drabble~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~

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Thanks ... We'll take All the Prayers and Thiouoghts that we can... I told the girls that there are people Praying All around the world for them, that they will be happy and safe again real soon... That brought three little smiles...

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I am just in tears from reading that. I'm praying harder than I ever have. Poor babies. I don't know what to say anymore, Mom. Usually I just tell you that it will all be over soon....but I'm not so sure I believe that anymore. It scares me that our justice system is so screwed up that it would allow children to be tortured in such a way. These poor babies. I don't know what to say anymore to you that could help you cope, I'll keep trying though. I'm ready now to start writing letters to politicians about the juvenile justice system. My aunt is having a very similar problem, and my oldest cousin (13) just tried to commit suicide. I'm sorry Mom that I don't have encouraging words, all I have to hang on to that Jeramie will get his on judgment day, but right now that doesn't quite seem like enough. I'll pray harder and louder now. Hang in there Mom, I'll hold your hand through it.

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Thanks for the Prayers, I have no faith in the courts anymore :o(

The girls are 8 - 7 - 5, in Ohio they have to be 13, before they are even considered to be old enough to know where they want to live...

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Im still praying for your girls! I hope it all works out Monday! Are these girls old enough to testify on there behalf as to how these people are treating them?

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Helen-my heart hurts for you, for Ross and your precious girls. I am so hoping that the court will see the real truth of all of this. I cannot even begin to fathom how you must feel right now but want you to know I do care and am pulling for you. carol

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Thanks for the Prayers, I have no faith in the courts anymore :o( The girls are 8 - 7 - 5, in Ohio they have to be 13, before they are even considered to be old enough to know where they want to live... ((( Blessed Hugs ))) Helen

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wish I could help more....

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Thanks ... We'll take All the Prayers and Thiouoghts that we can... I told the girls that there are people Praying All around the world for them, that they will be happy and safe again real soon... That brought three little smiles... Love and Hugs Mom

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Well I will be praying real hard that the courts will make the right decision, and that they will be brought home safely!! Hugs Re: Helen Thanks for the Prayers, I have no faith in the courts anymore :o( The girls are 8 - 7 - 5, in Ohio they have to be 13, before they are even considered to be old enough to know where they want to live... ((( Blessed Hugs ))) Helen Hi HelenIm still praying for your girls! I hope it all works out Monday! Are these girls old enough to testify on there behalf as to how these people are treating them?Hugs <center> Signature Creations by PANDORASBOX8 </center> If there is a Download with this email, DO NOT OPEN IT !Please notify Me !!!Thank-YouHelenangelbear1129@... ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ The Being Sick CommunityMessage Archives and Digest Attachment Pictures:-/messagesChat:- Scheduled Daily Chats at /chatBookmarks:-Add a website URL you have found useful./linksPersonal Complaints or problems:-Please contact a moderator email: -owner Subscription Details:-1) Individual email - means that every email sent to the list you receive.2) Daily Digest - sends you 25 messages in one single email for you to browse. This is an excellent option if you receive alot of email.3) Web only/No mail - means that you can pop into groups at your convenience and receive no email.To modify your subscription settings please visit:- /joinTo subscribe or unsubscribe please email:--subscribe -unsubscribe ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~When nothing is sure, everything is possible.--- Margaret Drabble~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~

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Helen-and am hoping and praying for you all for Monday. carol

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Won't know anything more until Monday the 16th... The only thing we know is that he is in contempt of court! Thanks for asking... How are you this day??? Feeling a little better??? ((( Caring Hugs ))) Helen

Hi Helen, how are you doing? Well I hope!! I was wondering how things were going with the court and your girls. I was thinking of them and was wondering if you made any headway. Hugsmelanie

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Thank-You Carol...

How are you doing???

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Helen-my heart hurts for you, for Ross and your precious girls. I am so hoping that the court will see the real truth of all of this. I cannot even begin to fathom how you must feel right now but want you to know I do care and am pulling for you. carol

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You got that right Anne... Glad you are doing better finally... Just don't overdo!!!

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If you or I was in contempt of court we would be in the hoosgow! Hope for you girl!

Feeling okay today, got quite a lot accomplished Love Anne

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Well I will be praying real hard that the courts will make the right decision, and that they will be brought home safely!!

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Helen-as well as can be expected-just sleeping a lot. am always better in the morning. Sure am enjoying the fall weather. carol

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Thank-You Carol...How are you doing???LoveHelen

Helen-my heart hurts for you, for Ross and your precious girls. I am so hoping that the court will see the real truth of all of this. I cannot even begin to fathom how you must feel right now but want you to know I do care and am pulling for you. carol

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