Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 This newer peer-reviewed article from Jeff Leach addresses our modern dietary problem of insufficient inulin fiber: " Prebiotics in Ancient Diet " : http://www.paleobioticslab.com/prebiotics_in_ancient_diet.htm all good, Duncan > > > So that¹s why I stopped taking inulin. After all, I do not think > that it¹s > > > natural to eat so much inulin, as it is quite rare in vegetables > or did > > > the caveman¹s diet mainly consist of endives and artichokes ? > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Poppycock. little humor there. Again, Duncan, completely agree with you, fiber is great, and the prebiotic effects of inulin are undeniable. I think what imageandmore was trying to say was that 15g a day of the stuff is pretty atypical intake in most diets. I didn't see in the article what the estimated intake of inulin was for our ancestors, but I imagine you would argue much more. Also, the studies have obviously shown the beneficial effects of high intake anyway. But candida overgrowth was probably unheard of before the advent of antibiotics, and candida overgrowth is what people here are suffering with. So again, I think it is important to recognize that high inulin intake may not be so beneficial for those lacking the bifidobacteria needed to out compete the yeast. Sol, do you suffer with candida? Have you taken inulin? What the effects for you? good/bad? greg > > > > So that¹s why I stopped taking inulin. After all, I do not think > > that it¹s > > > > natural to eat so much inulin, as it is quite rare in vegetables > > or did > > > > the caveman¹s diet mainly consist of endives and artichokes ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Hi Greg, <snip>...Australian aborigines ate murnong, a tuberous plant, in the 19th century as their main vegetable food with a reported daily intake of 200-300 grams (Gott, 1984). Historically, daily inulin intake was estimated to be approximately 25 to 32 grams. Today, the average daily intake of inulin and its hydrolysis products in Western Europe is estimated between 2-12 g/person/day (Roberfroid, Gibson, & Delzenne, 1993). The U.S. consumption, estimated at 2-8 g/person/day, is slightly less based on data from the U.S. Nationwide Food Consumption Survey 1987-88 (Roberfroid et al., 1993). A more recent USDA study by Moshfegh et al., (1999) showed that American diets provide about 2.6 g of inulin and 2.5 g of oligofructose. Mean intakes varied by gender and age groups with a range from 1.3 grams for young children to 3.5 grams for teenage boys and adult males. Per 1000 calories, mean intake ranged from 0.9 to 1.5 grams in American diets. Significant differences exist between variable sociodemographic categories. Whites who make up 73% of the US population consume significantly more of these inulin-containing components than Blacks or Hispanics (Moshfegh et al., 1999). </snip> The above two quotes are from Tungland's review on my website at the top of the inulin references: http://tinyurl.com/inulin-references Inulin consumption has been historically higher than today, and the people in the bowel studies were hardly even on inulin replacement, let alone a " high inulin " diet group. And yes, scientists think we haven't evolved much in the last 40,000 years or so to compensate for such a shabby high carb modern diet. Duncan > > > > > So that¹s why I stopped taking inulin. After all, I do not think > > > that it¹s > > > > > natural to eat so much inulin, as it is quite rare in > vegetables > > > or did > > > > > the caveman¹s diet mainly consist of endives and artichokes ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 dreaminginnoother wrote: > But candida overgrowth was probably unheard of before the advent of > antibiotics, and candida overgrowth is what people here are suffering > with. I think candida overgrowth probably showed up when humans started eating grains. > Sol, do you suffer with candida? > Have you taken inulin? What the effects for you? good/bad? > I do not believe I have much candida overgrowth anymore. I have tried inulin, effects for me from as little as 1/8 tsp are gas and diarrhea. sol > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Just checked the product label for the inulin I have, and 1/8 tsp would be .625 gm. sol I have tried inulin, effects for me from as little as 1/8 tsp are gas and diarrhea. sol > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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