Guest guest Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 Not to kick a dead horse, but I think you are taking this the wrong way. Duncan is just sharing his knowledge based on years of research and practice. He (nor I) is criticizing you for making the choices you make. We're just pointing out that according the research and experience, it's not the healthiest option for most people. Also, you said it, you threw away tons of refined carbs and junk and noted he probably didnt get much physical activity. Again, no one is criticizing or judging, just pointing out what we percieve to be an error in judgement. Who knows, maybe we're wrong : ) Buddy On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 7:28 PM, soozberg <soozberg@...> wrote: > Duncan, > > Yes, my father died from a poor diet, lack of exercise, genetic > disposition and a host of other things I will never know. He lived out > of state, kept himself isolated, refused to take our phone calls and > they found his body a week after he died. My brother and I came as > quickly as we could. Someone in his apartment building had already > cleaned out the fridge so I have no idea what he was eating. I found a > lot, and I mean tons, of white flour, white rice, pasta, pancake mixes > and there were 4 cans of saved meat (bacon?) grease on the stovetop. > We cleaned up all the rotting meat products left over in the kitchen > and it was obvious from the mess and horrible smell that he was unable > to care for himself -- sadly he did everything he could to hide it > from our family. The only one who suspected anything was amiss was my > Grandmother, who finally called me with the news. This is highly > personal but I'm sharing so you and everyone else judging me will > understand why I've taken the position I have and how important it is > for me to establish good health for myself. > > I never intended to become vegan. In fact, I loved the taste and smell > of bbq'd steak. Still enjoy the smells. However, since I stopped > eating meat, my liver health has improved immensely. Yes, I also > stopped white flour, refined sugars, etc. I have also been doing the > Eat to Live plan, as previously mentioned -- along with lots of > exercise, including cardio, stretching, and the like. And this was my > wake up call in life. If I had continued down the path I was on, I > would die like my father did. So I took a drastic measure. So far, all > of my organs are healthier, I am sleeping better at night, my weight > is down 25lbs. and counting and I'm much better off than I was last > year. Also, I've been treated for candida, heavy metal poisoning and > parasites -- which are all now under control. > > So if you want to condemn me for my choice, that's YOUR choice. I had > kept on a meat and veggie diet for years but still wasn't healthy. > Probably from all the splenda (haha). As others have mentioned, it's > whatever works for you. Everyone has a different system and a > different outlook. > > All I wanted you to do was to be respectful of others choices, which > you are still not and I find that offensive. I'm glad for the health > of others -- I'm happy if anyone can eat well and live longer. We all > should. But everyone is entitled to do it their own way and you have > no right to judge others. Yes, you have a lot of knowledge, great. You > still haven't taken any responsibility for turning others away on this > board who asked for help -- not a lecture. > > That being said, I appreciate everyone's helpful advice and support. > This year has been tough and I am grateful to have discovered a host > of information on candida problems. Getting that under control has > been a huge relief to me. > > -soozberg > > >> > > >> > > " Avoid nicotine addicts, vegans, and other unconsciously >> motivated >> > > death-wishers and their covert agendas of 'defeat the healer' " , >> is the >> > > quote I was referring to from Dr. Beck. >> > > >> > > I do hope that's not you! In fact, many people including some on >> this >> > > list belayed their veganism at least until they could recover >> from >> > > their illness, although some went back to it later. >> > > >> > > Duncan >> > > >> > >> > > -- Buddy A. Touchinsky, D.C. Blue Mountain Family Chiropractic www.bmfchiro.com Healthy Habits Natural Market www.healthyhabitsnaturalmarket.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 I'm sorry for being so unapologetic about the way I dispense information Duncan > > > > > > > > " Avoid nicotine addicts, vegans, and other unconsciously > > motivated > > > > death-wishers and their covert agendas of 'defeat the healer' " , > > is the > > > > quote I was referring to from Dr. Beck. > > > > > > > > I do hope that's not you! In fact, many people including some on > > this > > > > list belayed their veganism at least until they could recover > > from > > > > their illness, although some went back to it later. > > > > > > > > Duncan > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 If i can just stick my nose in where it doesn't belong - i was a veggie for 25 years - because that is what my body needed during that quarter century -it totally worked for me - the smell of meat etc use to make my stomach reach BUT - i found that in my late forties my body needs changed and almost literally within a few months - i was eating and needing chicken, meat etc - and then that worked for my body - so - i don't know age of the players in this interchange - but it was a factor in my aging process lisa c > > > > > > > > > > " Avoid nicotine addicts, vegans, and other unconsciously > > > motivated > > > > > death-wishers and their covert agendas of 'defeat the > healer' " , > > > is the > > > > > quote I was referring to from Dr. Beck. > > > > > > > > > > I do hope that's not you! In fact, many people including some > on > > > this > > > > > list belayed their veganism at least until they could recover > > > from > > > > > their illness, although some went back to it later. > > > > > > > > > > Duncan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 Greeting All There are many of us who have been around for a long time and need to at times remember that. The truth about health is what it is some think of it one way, others think a different way. One thing is constant.....balance in your life is the Key to good health. Let us move to a place of balance on the list and work out the differences to move to a total understanding of what we need to do to get healthy. If you want to eat meat, balance it with what you need to. If you do not want to eat meat, balance that choice with what you need to. Each of us need to do our work to make all of the information come together. Some of use need to be kinder in the way we say that information. Good health to us all...ameen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2008 Report Share Posted September 28, 2008 , That is really interesting. I basically never did well as a vegetarian even, and much worse as a mostly vegan. Never did get the increased feeling of energy and health even at first that people report with those diets. And meat never smelled bad to me. The smell of cooking meat always made my mouth water. I guess that is why I did so poorly on those diets, my body always did want meat. My mind didn't want to eat animals, but I now believe the body doesn't give a damn what the mind wants. It just needs what it needs. No matter what diet people choose it should be one that the body does well on. I was forcing a square peg into a round hole. sol lisafcolin wrote: > If i can just stick my nose in where it doesn't belong - i was a > veggie for 25 years - because that is what my body needed during that > quarter century -it totally worked for me - the smell of meat etc use > to make my stomach reach BUT - i found that in my late forties my body > needs changed and almost literally within a few months - i was eating > and needing chicken, meat etc - and then that worked for my body - so > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 As luck would have it , the most valuable concentrated anti-aging supplement you could take is an animal protein powder -- whey protein ( cold-handled of course . Its main strength is that it is the best donor of bonded cysteine for production of glutathione, the body's most powerful healing agent. Second, it's the most bioavailable protein anyway, well-suited to people with compromised digestion, such as the ill, the very young, and the very old. Bottom line -- ALL centenarians measured had unusually high glutathione levels, while low levels are always associated with disease. By the way I'm 53. Duncan > > If i can just stick my nose in where it doesn't belong - i was a > veggie for 25 years - because that is what my body needed during that > quarter century -it totally worked for me - the smell of meat etc use > to make my stomach reach BUT - i found that in my late forties my body > needs changed and almost literally within a few months - i was eating > and needing chicken, meat etc - and then that worked for my body - so > - i don't know age of the players in this interchange - but it was a > factor in my aging process > lisa c > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2008 Report Share Posted September 30, 2008 Well - at least for this time my instincts and cravings led me into the right directions - (in my teens, twenties and a good part of my thirties it just led me into deep doo doo !!) - thanks again - i have got to start doing whey again - my son is doing ok with goat yogurt and fermented cow butter - do you think he can do whey at this pt?? -- In candidiasis , " Duncan Crow " <duncancrow@...> wrote: > > As luck would have it , the most valuable concentrated anti-aging > supplement you could take is an animal protein powder -- whey protein > ( cold-handled of course . Its main strength is that it is the best > donor of bonded cysteine for production of glutathione, the body's > most powerful healing agent. Second, it's the most bioavailable > protein anyway, well-suited to people with compromised digestion, > such as the ill, the very young, and the very old. > > Bottom line -- ALL centenarians measured had unusually high > glutathione levels, while low levels are always associated with > disease. > > By the way I'm 53. > > Duncan > > > > > > If i can just stick my nose in where it doesn't belong - i was a > > veggie for 25 years - because that is what my body needed during > that > > quarter century -it totally worked for me - the smell of meat etc > use > > to make my stomach reach BUT - i found that in my late forties my > body > > needs changed and almost literally within a few months - i was > eating > > and needing chicken, meat etc - and then that worked for my body - > so > > - i don't know age of the players in this interchange - but it was a > > factor in my aging process > > lisa c > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2008 Report Share Posted October 1, 2008 Worth a try; cold-processed whey does several things other dairy products do not, and he can't get well if he's low in glutathione anyway. Duncan > > > > As luck would have it , the most valuable concentrated anti- aging > > supplement you could take is an animal protein powder -- whey protein > > ( cold-handled of course . Its main strength is that it is the best > > donor of bonded cysteine for production of glutathione, the body's > > most powerful healing agent. Second, it's the most bioavailable > > protein anyway, well-suited to people with compromised digestion, > > such as the ill, the very young, and the very old. > > > > Bottom line -- ALL centenarians measured had unusually high > > glutathione levels, while low levels are always associated with > > disease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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